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Nicola Romanoff
Quantum Innovations Limited
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Posted - 2015.06.10 11:29:48 -
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How feasible is it to be a pirate in low sec and keep your sec status above 2?
I ask on behalf of my main who has recently wandered into low sec and fought against a couple of pirates, it was good fun and you seem to be able to get 1v1 fights (as long as you target the pirates who are more honourable than the WCS fitted everybody else).
Now my main character, being my main does everything, including going out to high sec to replenish ships etc and my two other account alts have too low a SP level to be of much use, plus not sure if I am ready to trash my +5 to -10 just yet.
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
2809
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Posted - 2015.06.10 11:59:28 -
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What is your definition of the term "pirate"?
Piracy is dying, if not dead, and the only real place to do it was highsec. Ransoming barely exists anymore because of killboards, and awoxing isn't the same because of the bullshyte changes from CCP to create candybearland in .5 and up.
Holeysheet1 is afraid of thunderdome matches.
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Nicola Romanoff
Quantum Innovations Limited
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:07:17 -
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My definition of pirate are people like Stay Frosty or The Tuskers. I've heard very good things about them |
Noragen Neirfallas
Cheeki Breeki Corp Meet The Bandits.
917
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:14:29 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote:How feasible is it to be a pirate in low sec and keep your sec status above 2?
I ask on behalf of my main who has recently wandered into low sec and fought against a couple of pirates, it was good fun and you seem to be able to get 1v1 fights (as long as you target the pirates who are more honourable than the WCS fitted everybody else).
Now my main character, being my main does everything, including going out to high sec to replenish ships etc and my two other account alts have too low a SP level to be of much use, plus not sure if I am ready to trash my +5 to -10 just yet.
C&P Law one Post with your main or gtfo Your one free pass answer. Not very viable if you do it on a regular basis. You will likely generate kill rights which will generate issues for a high sec dweller. There aren't a lot of people in lowsec not looking for fights so 'pirating' is pretty rare. If you really want that Yarr feeling find a null bear bearing it up in a shiney or a high sec bear and bait him into aggression. Now if its fights you want it sounds like you already found where to be.
PS post with your main next time for greater community response in this forum
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Vartan Sarkisian
Raising the Bar Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:16:46 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote:How feasible is it to be a pirate in low sec and keep your sec status above 2?
I ask on behalf of my main who has recently wandered into low sec and fought against a couple of pirates, it was good fun and you seem to be able to get 1v1 fights (as long as you target the pirates who are more honourable than the WCS fitted everybody else).
Now my main character, being my main does everything, including going out to high sec to replenish ships etc and my two other account alts have too low a SP level to be of much use, plus not sure if I am ready to trash my +5 to -10 just yet.
C&P Law one Post with your main or gtfo Your one free pass answer. Not very viable if you do it on a regular basis. You will likely generate kill rights which will generate issues for a high sec dweller. There aren't a lot of people in lowsec not looking for fights so 'pirating' is pretty rare. If you really want that Yarr feeling find a null bear bearing it up in a shiney or a high sec bear and bait him into aggression. Now if its fights you want it sounds like you already found where to be. PS post with your main next time for greater community response in this forum
Was unaware of the ruling, Apologies Noragen. This is Nicola's main, or Nicola is this mains account alt, whichever you prefer :)
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
116
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:21:00 -
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Piracy is far from dead. Certainly the times have changed and you have to change with them but it is still very much alive. As for keeping your security status above 2 (i presume you mean -2). It is really not that hard to maintain without tags if you just run belts from time to time and don't pod anyone. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Cheeki Breeki Corp Meet The Bandits.
917
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:21:57 -
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Vartan Sarkisian wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote:How feasible is it to be a pirate in low sec and keep your sec status above 2?
I ask on behalf of my main who has recently wandered into low sec and fought against a couple of pirates, it was good fun and you seem to be able to get 1v1 fights (as long as you target the pirates who are more honourable than the WCS fitted everybody else).
Now my main character, being my main does everything, including going out to high sec to replenish ships etc and my two other account alts have too low a SP level to be of much use, plus not sure if I am ready to trash my +5 to -10 just yet.
C&P Law one Post with your main or gtfo Your one free pass answer. Not very viable if you do it on a regular basis. You will likely generate kill rights which will generate issues for a high sec dweller. There aren't a lot of people in lowsec not looking for fights so 'pirating' is pretty rare. If you really want that Yarr feeling find a null bear bearing it up in a shiney or a high sec bear and bait him into aggression. Now if its fights you want it sounds like you already found where to be. PS post with your main next time for greater community response in this forum Was unaware of the ruling, Apologies Noragen. This is Nicola's main, or Nicola is this mains account alt, whichever you prefer :) I like this guy. It's a player enforced guideline. See this is why this thread needs a sticky. Reckon that is asking too much after getting it unlocked
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Noragen Neirfallas
Cheeki Breeki Corp Meet The Bandits.
917
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:23:08 -
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Switch Savage wrote:Piracy is far from dead. Certainly the times have changed and you have to change with them but it is still very much alive. As for keeping your security status above 2 (i presume you mean -2). It is really not that hard to maintain without tags if you just run belts from time to time and don't pod anyone. Don't pod??? Hersey
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
117
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:30:11 -
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Hah agreed but it would be difficult to maintain whilst podding like a mad man. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1890
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:33:00 -
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Podding is pretty safe in high sec if they're gone all sex mad after you've done your pole dance for them. Low kinda hurts the sec status, but it's also guilt free due to no trickery. I do feel a bit bad when I podsplode some nooblet in high, well... for about a minute or two. I usually refrain from detonating them long enough to squeeze a 'GF' into local before sending them back to their medbay. If they're in low sex, then they get dirty sex, it is the law.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2987
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Posted - 2015.06.10 12:45:29 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote:How feasible is it to be a pirate in low sec and keep your sec status above 2?
Super easy with tags these days.In the old days every time i went to -10 it was a PAIN to get it back up but these days just kill it all and tag-it-up again.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2987
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Posted - 2015.06.10 13:01:36 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote:How feasible is it to be a pirate in low sec and keep your sec status above 2?
I ask on behalf of my main who has recently wandered into low sec and fought against a couple of pirates, it was good fun and you seem to be able to get 1v1 fights (as long as you target the pirates who are more honourable than the WCS fitted everybody else).
Now my main character, being my main does everything, including going out to high sec to replenish ships etc and my two other account alts have too low a SP level to be of much use, plus not sure if I am ready to trash my +5 to -10 just yet.
C&P Law one Post with your main or gtfo Your one free pass answer. Not very viable if you do it on a regular basis. You will likely generate kill rights which will generate issues for a high sec dweller. There aren't a lot of people in lowsec not looking for fights so 'pirating' is pretty rare. If you really want that Yarr feeling find a null bear bearing it up in a shiney or a high sec bear and bait him into aggression. Now if its fights you want it sounds like you already found where to be. PS post with your main next time for greater community response in this forum
Never had issues with them when i was pirating.
The OP means pirating in the same sense as i do btw and as most oldschoolers know them wich means guys who wander around in low-sec belonging to no side of the FW factions and just shooting anything that passes.Though it used to involve randsoming in the old days too but that died off a long long time ago.
The only issue i can see with it , wich is an issue i never had , is not having the amount of isk to tag-up that sec stat whenever you want.Just aim to stay just above the -2 sec wich should not cost too much.If you stay off the pods the sec hurt is not that big but unfortunatly for me i allways have a habbit of going after the pod too when i kill a ship .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
2809
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Posted - 2015.06.10 14:06:01 -
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Switch Savage wrote:Piracy is far from dead. Certainly the times have changed and you have to change with them but it is still very much alive. As for keeping your security status above 2 (i presume you mean -2). It is really not that hard to maintain without tags if you just run belts from time to time and don't pod anyone.
I'd still like to know what you are considering piracy. When I think of pirates, I think stealing, I think ransoming, I think ways to make someone else's things yours.
Roaming around looking for fights isn't piracy. Not saying that's what you do... But that's what most "pirates" claim to do.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2503
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Posted - 2015.06.10 14:20:17 -
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"Thug" or "hoodlum" would be a better description for most of the so-called lowsec "pirates".
For profit ganking is basically the only extant form of actual piracy at present. |
Vartan Sarkisian
Raising the Bar Of Sound Mind
171
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Posted - 2015.06.10 14:28:41 -
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flakeys wrote:
The OP means pirating in the same sense as i do btw and as most oldschoolers know them wich means guys who wander around in low-sec belonging to no side of the FW factions and just shooting anything that passes.Though it used to involve randsoming in the old days too but that died off a long long time ago.
Indeed, this is my take on it. I am happy not to pod (am I bad?) just looking for good fights. My limited experience doing this is that most of the good fights will come from the pilots in pirate corps themselves as they tend to fit for combat rather than farming plexes. Null sec is OK but 1 v 1 are rarer than several rare things that don't want to be found.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
118
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Posted - 2015.06.10 14:37:45 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Switch Savage wrote:Piracy is far from dead. Certainly the times have changed and you have to change with them but it is still very much alive. As for keeping your security status above 2 (i presume you mean -2). It is really not that hard to maintain without tags if you just run belts from time to time and don't pod anyone. I'd still like to know what you are considering piracy. When I think of pirates, I think stealing, I think ransoming, I think ways to make someone else's things yours. Roaming around looking for fights isn't piracy. Not saying that's what you do... But that's what most "pirates" claim to do.
I agree.
As you say I think the main thing that sets pirates apart is the attempt to fund themselves through ransoms and liberated assets which is something we focus on. Understandably difficult but certainly in the last 2 months none of us have wanted for ships between ransoms/nice loot drops.
Also agree in terms of straight up stealing things that is more of a high sec/espionage/awox thing. |
Vartan Sarkisian
Raising the Bar Of Sound Mind
171
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Posted - 2015.06.10 15:11:49 -
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Switch Savage wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Switch Savage wrote:Piracy is far from dead. Certainly the times have changed and you have to change with them but it is still very much alive. As for keeping your security status above 2 (i presume you mean -2). It is really not that hard to maintain without tags if you just run belts from time to time and don't pod anyone. I'd still like to know what you are considering piracy. When I think of pirates, I think stealing, I think ransoming, I think ways to make someone else's things yours. Roaming around looking for fights isn't piracy. Not saying that's what you do... But that's what most "pirates" claim to do. I agree. As you say I think the main thing that sets pirates apart is the attempt to fund themselves through ransoms and liberated assets which is something we focus on. Understandably difficult but certainly in the last 2 months none of us have wanted for ships between ransoms/nice loot drops. Also agree in terms of straight up stealing things that is more of a high sec/espionage/awox thing.
OK, that is a fair enough description, I think the reason that I thought of the term pirates is that by attacking the people you do, how often you do then your sec status will take a battering pretty quickly, especially if you are able to pod the other player. The people that are there to farm plex and such will often run away from combat where possible, and even when they are in combat they will rarely initiate it and therefore not get the sec hit anyway.
Too late to rephrase the initial question but barring the term pirates it was still valid, ie how easy is it to maintain a certain sec status if you are active in finding and initiating fights in low sec. From what I gather if I don't pod, occasionally rat and use tags I should be able to maintain a sec status that allows me into high sec (kill rights notwithstanding)
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
118
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Posted - 2015.06.10 15:34:06 -
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Correct it is very manageable if you are not podding everyone you can. Sadly i believe you take the sec status hit the moment you point the pod (could be wrong memory is rusty), which means you cant try to ransom the pod without taking a big sec hit.
If money is not a huge hurdle for you then i would just ignore the occasional ratting and ship in several months worth of stuff and plummet your sec status. You can then fix it up in one go with tags and i only suggest this because there is a external cost for handing in tags on top of the tags themselves. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
419
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Posted - 2015.06.10 16:00:59 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote:How feasible is it to be a pirate in low sec and keep your sec status above 2?
I ask on behalf of my main who has recently wandered into low sec and fought against a couple of pirates, it was good fun and you seem to be able to get 1v1 fights (as long as you target the pirates who are more honourable than the WCS fitted everybody else).
Now my main character, being my main does everything, including going out to high sec to replenish ships etc and my two other account alts have too low a SP level to be of much use, plus not sure if I am ready to trash my +5 to -10 just yet.
So, I'm not sure if I would call myself a pirate, but I am in faction warfare and I also frequently find myself shooting neutrals in lowsec.
I split my time between low and highsec as like you this is my main character and I don't want to nuke his standings. You can fix your standings with tags, but frankly there are better ways, especially if you need to PvE to make ISK.
Killing NPC pirates counts as law enforcement actions which raise your security status; if you do PvE like level 4 missions in highsec or combat anomalies in low/nullsec, you will see your sec status rise fairly quickly. I've recently been running alot of Sisters of Eve missions and find myself with nearly a 5.0 security status. If you already spend time in highsec, running some lvl 4's is a good way to make some cash while also keeping your sec status where it needs to be.
The other part of this equation is that I don't go out of my way to shoot neutral pods. In fact, I simply don't shoot neutral pods at all. If I had reason to suspect the pod was shiny, I would make an exception - but otherwise there's no point contending with kill rights and massive status hits because you're killing empty or cheap pods.
Most of the pods worth killing outside of highsec, will be either faction warfare targets, suspect/criminal flagged, or low enough sec status to be freely attackable. And their owners will also be pretty good at getting them out. Blapping empty neutral pods left and right is generally more trouble than it's worth.
Piracy for profit (not sure there's another kind) is not dead, it's just hard. And that is partially due to the fact that almost no one honors ransoms, thus almost no one will pay them. If you want to make ISK off loot though you're going to need friends to help you catch and kill the fat targets. Honestly, gatecamping a highsec/lowsec connection with a gang is the best way to actually make ISK - inevitably some idiot will try to jump through in a faction fit T3 and you will get paid. Or conversely you can bait and murder other pirates gatecamping in needlessly blinged out ships. Piracy in highsec requires a little more finesse but it's still very possible - you just have to be patient instead of relying on game mechanics (and ignorance thereof) to grant you an automatic kill. If you are interested in learning one of the more amusing strains of highsec piracy, that can be done whilst keeping a positive sec status...there's a fellow named Omar around here that you might speak with.
To successfully yarr it up in lowsec, make friends, and learn to think creatively to catch targets rather than just expecting them to always sit still for the blob. Bait is your friend (non-stereotypical bait ships preferred). If you want to keep highsec open, take a day every few weeks and go find some empty null to blitz anoms in an Ishtar, or run a bunch of lvl 4's for a faction with non-terrible LP. You'll buff your wallet and your sec status nicely. And don't shoot neutral pods. It's not worth the hassle of kill rights. Unless of course you pod your alts...that can be abused for hilarious profit.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1089
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Posted - 2015.06.10 17:24:04 -
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Here's the thumb rule we use:
3 high sec ganks = 2 level 4 missions.
There is even more crazy goodness you can get out of level 4 missions with regards to sec status. I'll just give you one hint - if you're running them for sec status recovery - the more the better. There is some bad math in lvl 4 mission sec status that you can work with.
This rule of thumb assumes you're maintaining +2.0 sec status. If you're -2 it's more efficient and if you're trying to maintain +4 then it's much more difficult.
I like +2 give or take. Not difficult to maintain and plus enough that you don't have to think about it if something comes up. |
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2990
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Posted - 2015.06.10 18:53:55 -
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Vartan Sarkisian wrote:flakeys wrote:
The OP means pirating in the same sense as i do btw and as most oldschoolers know them wich means guys who wander around in low-sec belonging to no side of the FW factions and just shooting anything that passes.Though it used to involve randsoming in the old days too but that died off a long long time ago.
Indeed, this is my take on it. I am happy not to pod (am I bad?) just looking for good fights. My limited experience doing this is that most of the good fights will come from the pilots in pirate corps themselves as they tend to fit for combat rather than farming plexes. Null sec is OK but 1 v 1 are rarer than several rare things that don't want to be found.
FW space still has it's place for 1vs1 . Try to live near the gallente guys , i know some of those alliances still do honour their 1vs1 fights.But it just depends who you encounter , in my experience the pirates where the ones who didn't honour their fights when i was pirating myself.
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Don Purple
Almost Human.
1252
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Posted - 2015.06.11 08:50:28 -
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I remember this one guy, called himself the pirate king. Miss that canadian bastard.
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
749
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Posted - 2015.06.11 10:57:25 -
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Nicola Romanoff wrote:My definition of pirate are people like Stay Frosty or The Tuskers. I've heard very good things about them
the tuskers are actually quit cool, i remember seeing one in lowsec who asked for help to kill a few others in a plex, i was skeptical it was a trap but i thought why not, but yes they keep their word and for that i tip my hat to tuskers.
you can buy tags or just bite the bullet and go -10.0, use alts for stuff etc
quit a few corps WILL boot you for not honouring
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
2821
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Posted - 2015.06.11 11:38:26 -
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Don Purple wrote:I remember this one guy, called himself the pirate king. Miss that canadian bastard.
Serisouly. What happened to him?
Holeysheet1 is afraid of thunderdome matches.
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Vartan Sarkisian
Raising the Bar Of Sound Mind
172
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Posted - 2015.06.11 11:42:38 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote:My definition of pirate are people like Stay Frosty or The Tuskers. I've heard very good things about them the tuskers are actually quit cool, i remember seeing one in lowsec who asked for help to kill a few others in a plex, i was skeptical it was a trap but i thought why not, but yes they keep their word and for that i tip my hat to tuskers. you can buy tags or just bite the bullet and go -10.0, use alts for stuff etc quit a few corps WILL boot you for not honouring
I've heard good things about The Tuskers and Stay Frosty although I am sure there are other pirate corps that have a good reputation/name too i've never really investigated that area of EvE so unsure.
I've heard about these tags, not sure of their costs but someone said there is a "handing in cost" on top of the cost of the actual tags. I've already said that I am not ready to go -10, I may never be, I am a single account, no alts except same account alts and their skills are limiting/limited, if I go -10 my alts cannot fly all the ships I can so because this toon would not be able to dock in HS, and my account alts cannot fly those ships It would cost a fortune in getting stuff jumped into low sec.
In saying all that I think I have a plan, my current corp is in null sec, I like that, we have some history and I like the "story" of our corp in terms of the events that have happened since I've been with them, although 1v1 are rare (tends to be gangs or billions (ok maybe not billions) of svipuls or garmurs), ill drop a couple jump clones around, one near each of the pirate groups that I have heard about and then go out roaming, ill hopefully find pirates to fight, ill lose a bit of sec status and then head back to null to do a couple of anoms to build up sec status again, from what I read on some blogs a frustration pirates have is that a good percentage of the people they fight just fit WCS in the lows to escape, Iwont be doing that... so (as Erroll Brown once said) Everyone's a winner baby.
Pirates will get a fight (and probably a kill because I am bad) and Ill get pvp out of it.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
749
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Posted - 2015.06.11 12:13:54 -
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when i was in null i use to take "holidays" to black rise where i could frig pvp solo, it didnt really matter about sec because i would just rat in null and it would go back up. sec status losses will happen more if you pod people
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1295
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Posted - 2015.06.11 14:50:35 -
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In regards to tags yeah, they can get you from -10 back to zero lickity split, but it ain't cheap.
Good lord it ain't cheap.
As regards 'piracy', about the only piracy I can think of is getting mission bears to agress you and then ransoming their shiny bling boats. Or if they refuse ransom, looting their shiny bling boats and hoping the loot fairy is kind.
There is also freighter popping.......CODE has it down to an assembly line, but there method requires quite a bit of planning and players. But man you can rake in the ISK like nothing else.
There is also corp theft/ransom......which now requires more finesse. But you would be surprised by how many large corps still have 'friendly fire' switched on.
But the old skool 'pirate' who roams the lowsex looking for a juicy miner or idiot hauler......pretty much extinct nowadays.
All the fat bears tend to live in hisec.....:)
As for pirating in null.......usually not doable, as all the juicy targets are in sov space, and bubbles/interceptors abound.
But hey, you don't have to worry about sec status. If you try it about the only place it works is Syndicate, due to all the NPC stations etc.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
466
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Posted - 2015.06.11 15:28:00 -
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If you want to solo pirate in lowsec (IE hold people for ransom, etc.) your best bet is to hunt DED site runners/FW mission runners. Having said that, you need to be able to probe sites, tackle T3 cruisers/hacs, and kill them before their friends show up. |
Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
123
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Posted - 2015.06.11 16:16:57 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Nicola Romanoff wrote:My definition of pirate are people like Stay Frosty or The Tuskers. I've heard very good things about them the tuskers are actually quit cool, i remember seeing one in lowsec who asked for help to kill a few others in a plex, i was skeptical it was a trap but i thought why not, but yes they keep their word and for that i tip my hat to tuskers. you can buy tags or just bite the bullet and go -10.0, use alts for stuff etc quit a few corps WILL boot you for not honouring
To add to this our word is our bond and that is part of the code we all follow. If you are in fleet with us or have been called in to help, your safety is guaranteed.
Any deviation to the code we sign up for on application is harshly dealt with and investigated heavily. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
421
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Posted - 2015.06.11 18:01:27 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:In regards to tags yeah, they can get you from -10 back to zero lickity split, but it ain't cheap.
Good lord it ain't cheap.
As regards 'piracy', about the only piracy I can think of is getting mission bears to agress you and then ransoming their shiny bling boats. Or if they refuse ransom, looting their shiny bling boats and hoping the loot fairy is kind.
There is also freighter popping.......CODE has it down to an assembly line, but there method requires quite a bit of planning and players. But man you can rake in the ISK like nothing else.
There is also corp theft/ransom......which now requires more finesse. But you would be surprised by how many large corps still have 'friendly fire' switched on.
But the old skool 'pirate' who roams the lowsex looking for a juicy miner or idiot hauler......pretty much extinct nowadays.
All the fat bears tend to live in hisec.....:)
As for pirating in null.......usually not doable, as all the juicy targets are in sov space, and bubbles/interceptors abound.
But hey, you don't have to worry about sec status. If you try it about the only place it works is Syndicate, due to all the NPC stations etc.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/47186703/
Galmil corp I fly with sometimes did this two nights ago (sadly I was not with them).
You can still catch idiots in lowsec. It is not a daily occurrence and it requires effort, which is the way things should work. As Thanatos said, having a dedicated combat prober with a skilled pilot in fleet is INVALUABLE. I have killed mining barges in lowsec and haulers can be caught if you have a proper sebo'd gate camp with multiple or faction points to contend with stabs (or a HIC).
The prevalence and ease of mindless blob hunting is the reason you don't often see people attempting PvE activities outside of highsec, but there are still targets and ways to attend to them. Explorers are pretty common in lowsec and some parts of null, and going after those in a cloaky hunter Astero can be highly entertaining (especially with the high drop rate of SoE probe launchers).
It helps greatly to have competent friends and a good plan. A properly set up gate camp (instalock, long range webs, cloaked scouts), an unconventional bait ship, or far-ranging fast scouts in ceptors with combat probe support are just some of the ways to "pirate" outside highsec. It's not supposed to be easy to gank people who don't want to fight.
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