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Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.06.14 13:52:12 -
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March rabbit wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Stacy Lone wrote:I'm still convinced the behavior we show in games were no boundaries inhibit us reflects who we would truly be if such boundaries did not exist irl), How do you feel about actors playing a role? they get paid for it
And how is that relevant? |
Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
410
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Posted - 2015.06.14 13:54:15 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: (also dude is a total loser and will prob lose his family soon as well as his isk and RL assets)
There really isn't a single sane cell in your brain, is there?
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Martin Corwin
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:15:59 -
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Recording these private conversations and releasing them on a public accessible place like Soundcloud crosses the line for me 100%. I hope these douchebags get banned ASAP. |
Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2303
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:21:31 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Lel, just got some evenews for you:
Hi all,
Confirming that I was permanently banned as of today:
User EVE-SSO-CONNECTION is banned pending investigation Last login: 2015.06.10 22:34 Number of visits: 204 Reason: EULA Violation
I was one of the directors in the Yellow Ducks Consortium (Kaalatas Nebunaesa) that took part in this heist, and now I am banned I guess? Thanks CCP. I thought scamming was legal. I guess not? Well, it was fun EVE, but another game needs me and my heroism!
Love, Kaalatas Nebunaesa
Yay, CCP teaching modesty, with a stick! |
Kurisa Ongrard
Yellow Duck Consortium
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:38:14 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Lel, just got some evenews for you:
Kiandoshia wrote: Yay, CCP teaching modesty, with a stick!
Have no fear friends, scamming as we have done is perfectly legitimate. |
Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
193
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:40:18 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: (also dude is a total loser and will prob lose his family soon as well as his isk and RL assets)
There really isn't a single sane cell in your brain, is there? I said that if he chose to use his childrens lunch money and wifes gas allotment to buy plex.
Read the sentence befote dude.
If he does those, then i think he would be a loser and lose them.
You dont?? |
Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
193
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:41:20 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Lel, just got some evenews for you:
Hi all,
Confirming that I was permanently banned as of today:
User EVE-SSO-CONNECTION is banned pending investigation Last login: 2015.06.10 22:34 Number of visits: 204 Reason: EULA Violation
I was one of the directors in the Yellow Ducks Consortium (Kaalatas Nebunaesa) that took part in this heist, and now I am banned I guess? Thanks CCP. I thought scamming was legal. I guess not? Well, it was fun EVE, but another game needs me and my heroism!
Love, Kaalatas Nebunaesa
Ccp investigate before you suspend people accounts? ?
What a marvel idea.... |
Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
193
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:43:26 -
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Martin Corwin wrote:Recording these private conversations and releasing them on a public accessible place like Soundcloud crosses the line for me 100%. I hope these douchebags get banned ASAP. Thats not against the EULA though though. ...
Brb im posting what you just said on reddit for all to read and mock |
Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
568
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:51:13 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
How can a dude play for YEARS amass over 100BILL and still still STILL not understand this is legal/allowed?
EVE is a game played by humans, humans are oddly susceptible to scams.Quote:FINRA's fraud susceptibility research reveals some surprising facts. For example, the more educated and wealthier you are, the more likely you are to invest in a potentially fraudulent scheme. And men, because they are generally less risk averse, are more vulnerable than women.
Any investor can tell you that 33% success rate on investments is a good ratio.
Most fail.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Martin Corwin
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:57:42 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Martin Corwin wrote:Recording these private conversations and releasing them on a public accessible place like Soundcloud crosses the line for me 100%. I hope these douchebags get banned ASAP. Thats not against the EULA though though. ... Brb im posting what you just said on reddit for all to read and mock Personality rights, esp. privacy rights, are a thing. Some civilized countries actually have laws that implement these rights. |
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Domena Opazovanja
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.06.14 15:26:51 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Lel, just got some evenews for you:
Hi all,
Confirming that I was permanently banned as of today:
User EVE-SSO-CONNECTION is banned pending investigation Last login: 2015.06.10 22:34 Number of visits: 204 Reason: EULA Violation
I was one of the directors in the Yellow Ducks Consortium (Kaalatas Nebunaesa) that took part in this heist, and now I am banned I guess? Thanks CCP. I thought scamming was legal. I guess not? Well, it was fun EVE, but another game needs me and my heroism!
Love, Kaalatas Nebunaesa
Is that one the alt of Jerry Rin ? |
Noragen Neirfallas
Blood GorgonsS
960
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Posted - 2015.06.14 15:57:16 -
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My one and only issue is the posting of the audio recording. thats jsut poor taste. It's one thing to scam and get the isk and post the typed in game tears but the recording of the audio on teamspeak and posting it as a ridicule of this 'person' and not simply the player takes it too out of game for 'My' tastes. +1 on the Scam -1 on the presentation
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2303
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Posted - 2015.06.14 16:23:05 -
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Kurisa Ongrard wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Lel, just got some evenews for you: Kiandoshia wrote: Yay, CCP teaching modesty, with a stick!
Have no fear friends, scamming as we have done is perfectly legitimate.
Oh yeah, it's legit. If you hadn't told anybody about it though, nobody would be suspended now ^^ |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10069
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Posted - 2015.06.14 16:39:28 -
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Kiandoshia wrote:Kurisa Ongrard wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Lel, just got some evenews for you: Kiandoshia wrote: Yay, CCP teaching modesty, with a stick!
Have no fear friends, scamming as we have done is perfectly legitimate. Oh yeah, it's legit. If you hadn't told anybody about it though, nobody would be suspended now ^^ to be fair we dont know what part of all this is the eula breach, might be sharing the recordings or something els we arent privy to
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Kaivar Lancer
Little Rat Company
614
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Posted - 2015.06.14 18:24:03 -
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Wow, that's a pretty awesome scam! |
TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.14 19:37:55 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Lel, just got some evenews for you:
Hi all,
Confirming that I was permanently banned as of today:
User EVE-SSO-CONNECTION is banned pending investigation Last login: 2015.06.10 22:34 Number of visits: 204 Reason: EULA Violation
I was one of the directors in the Yellow Ducks Consortium (Kaalatas Nebunaesa) that took part in this heist, and now I am banned I guess? Thanks CCP. I thought scamming was legal. I guess not? Well, it was fun EVE, but another game needs me and my heroism!
Love, Kaalatas Nebunaesa
Confirming one of the Yellow Duck Consortium directors was banned. Chatted with Kaal earlier. Waiting to hear more. I'm sure it must be a mistake on CCP's part, as our scam clearly did not violate any part of the EULA. |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
241
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Posted - 2015.06.14 19:48:24 -
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So what? Hadn't much compassion with the victim but that? Hilarious!! Boasting like little children about this lame job and putting evidence online...
What and what not violates the EULA is a thing that CCP decides!
You seriously hope for an uproar? loool
So enough please, if you still need to whine, please do it in C&P where this clickbait belongs to anyway.
Funny when people fish for other ppls tears and then have to cry themselfes.
Edit: Consider the amount of isk in PLEX in Dollars and that not a corps but a single person has been hit. Some Promo CCP does not want. Anyway: Everything "evil" some people do reflect on EvE and CCP and there is the line where tolerance ends.
PPS: LOL following erotica1 s footsteps indeed, following them out of EvE...
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23923
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Posted - 2015.06.14 19:49:17 -
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lost packet wrote:If the guy had layed out real money, then lost it in a situation like this, that should be returnable under EULA because that is kind of real life grief and cause real life issues (especially if married :P). As others have said it depends on the situation. If a scammer encourages the victim to buy PLEX then that's a nono as far as I know; anything other than that is fair game because a PLEX has no monetary worth after it's been redeemed and becomes a game item to which the normal scam rules apply.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
241
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Posted - 2015.06.14 19:57:55 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:lost packet wrote:If the guy had layed out real money, then lost it in a situation like this, that should be returnable under EULA because that is kind of real life grief and cause real life issues (especially if married :P). As others have said it depends on the situation. If a scammer encourages the victim to buy PLEX then that's a nono as far as I know; anything other than that is fair game because a PLEX has no monetary worth after it's been redeemed and becomes a game item to which the normal scam rules apply.
Again which rules apply, is decided by CCP. And actions you take that might go into the media will reflect badly on CCP and EvE might call for a ban hammer.
CCP might see a difference when not a corps but a single person is affected. Also its very st-u-pid to boast like that and put the recordings of a private(!) chat onto soundcloud. There enough reasons to pick to sanctify the bans.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
92
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Posted - 2015.06.14 20:16:01 -
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That scam is nothing different from eroticas bonus room. Those idiots obviously didn't learn ccp's lesson. the moment they stepped out of the sandbox as lynx said it, was boasting about it on en24 and posting audiofiles of dragging the victim through the mud, ruining his reputation because scammers seem to compensate their inferiority complexes with that. they should be banned. |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23923
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Posted - 2015.06.14 20:30:27 -
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La Rynx wrote:Again which rules apply, is decided by CCP. And actions you take that might go into the media will reflect badly on CCP and EvE might call for a ban hammer. The same could be said of pretty much anything that crosses a GMs desk, I'm merely pointing out the general guidelines as I understand them.
The ban hammer is a given depending on how bad the press is, the precedent was set when Kugu got banned and reinforced somewhat when Erotica got banned.
Quote:CCP might see a difference when not a corps but a single person is affected. Also its very st-u-pid to boast like that and put the recordings of a private(!) chat onto soundcloud. It's a pretty standard scam and it's one that's existed for years in Eve, as the old adage goes : A fool and his money are soon parted.
The recordings while distastful aren't private by any means, it's pretty common knowledge that anything you say or write in Eve to another person can and will often be used against you; as such you shouldn't have any expectation of privacy as per the EULA
EULA wrote:7. PRIVACY AND USE OF PERSONAL INFORMATION A. Communications
Except for certain information in your Account (discussed below), all transmissions by you to the System are not private. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of privacy regarding communications you make in the Game, whether through private in-Game messaging, during chat, or in chat rooms. You'll probably find most voice/text chat software has similar boilerplate contained in the EULA.
Quote:There are enough reasons to pick to sanctify the bans. That's not for you or I to say, that is entirely down to CCP.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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V1P3RR
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.14 21:48:14 -
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Agata Matahari wrote:That scam is nothing different from eroticas bonus room. Those idiots obviously didn't learn ccp's lesson. the moment they stepped out of the sandbox as lynx said it, was boasting about it on en24 and posting audiofiles of dragging the victim through the mud, ruining his reputation because scammers seem to compensate their inferiority complexes with that. they should be banned.
mandatory " WoW is that way --->" line.... |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
243
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Posted - 2015.06.14 22:13:02 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:La Rynx wrote:Again which rules apply, is decided by CCP. Quote:There are enough reasons to pick to sanctify the bans. That's not for you or I to say, that is entirely down to CCP.
oh look, i started with this notion... so whats the point of throwing around parts of the EULA. O and by the way, i think the victim was not told that the conversation would be recorded and may be considered private, despite any excuse you are grabbing for. those i-d-i-o-t-s wanted to brag and where fishing for applause but got kicked out of eve instead. this makes this unintendend pun absolutly hilarious. Furthermore, please notice, that i already agreed, that this was a normal scam, just not a great one. Moreso please notice, that no rippard tegg is needed to get CCP to ban people and rippard tegg has never been the reason for those bans. accusing tegg was always just the try to put blame on someone else than the perp.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.14 22:20:35 -
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La Rynx wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:La Rynx wrote:Again which rules apply, is decided by CCP. Quote:There are enough reasons to pick to sanctify the bans. That's not for you or I to say, that is entirely down to CCP. oh look, i started with this notion... so whats the point of throwing around parts of the EULA. O and by the way, i think the victim was not told that the conversation would be recorded and may be considered private, despite any excuse you are grabbing for. those i-d-i-o-t-s wanted to brag and where fishing for applause but got kicked out of eve instead. this makes this unintendend pun absolutly hilarious. Furthermore, please notice, that i already agreed, that this was a normal scam, just not a great one. Moreso please notice, that no rippard tegg is needed to get CCP to ban people and rippard tegg has never been the reason for those bans. accusing tegg was always just the try to put blame on someone else than the perp.
Nobody is sure why Kaalatas was banned. Everything else is speculation. I should note that none of the many other people involved in this scam were banned. It is quite perplexing. If you pretend otherwise, you are either quite uniformed or disingenuous. |
Commander Spurty
Dimension Door We need wards.
1465
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Posted - 2015.06.14 22:38:27 -
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Harry Forever wrote: I love this ****, Need to check this out later today, erotica 1 soundcloud scams are my alltime favourites (last year that guy who started screaming so loud)... this is pure evil
Great name, will be missed if you turn out to be about as good for the game as they were.
There are good ships
And wood ships
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are
Spaceships
Built by CCP
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Spurty
Dimension Door We need wards.
1465
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Posted - 2015.06.14 22:38:27 -
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Harry Forever wrote: I love this ****, Need to check this out later today, erotica 1 soundcloud scams are my alltime favourites (last year that guy who started screaming so loud)... this is pure evil
Great name, will be missed if you turn out to be about as good for the game as they were.
There are good ships
And wood ships
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are
Spaceships
Built by CCP
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23926
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Posted - 2015.06.14 22:44:05 -
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La Rynx wrote:oh look, i started with this notion... so whats the point of throwing around parts of the EULA. You brought up the matter of privacy, not me.
The EULA quote is entirely relevant to that part of your post; and as I pointed out you'll probably find very similar boilerplate in the EULA of things like TS and Mumble, which are both common OOG communications methods.
Quote:O and by the way, i think the victim was not told that the conversation would be recorded and may be considered private, despite any excuse you are grabbing for. Regardless of what the victim was told, it's Eve related, and with Eve's reputation for such shenanigans he should have known there was a good chance it was being recorded. There's no shortage of examples of things like this being recorded and published for public consumption.
Quote:those i-d-i-o-t-s wanted to brag and where fishing for applause but got kicked out of eve instead. this makes this unintendend pun absolutly hilarious. That has yet to be determined, a suspension pending investigation is not a ban; and the other players involved in this operation still appear to be with us.
Quote:Furthermore, please notice, that i already agreed, that this was a normal scam, just not a great one. Moreso please notice, that no rippard tegg is needed to get CCP to ban people and rippard tegg has never been the reason for those bans. accusing tegg was always just the try to put blame on someone else than the perp.
Did I mention Ripard Teg?
Nope, but now you mention it..
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
236
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Posted - 2015.06.14 22:44:32 -
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TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet wrote:
Nobody is sure why Kaalatas was banned. Everything else is speculation. I should note that none of the many other people involved in this scam were banned. It is quite perplexing. If you pretend otherwise, you are either quite uniformed or disingenuous.
That's pretty simple isn't it?
A few guys had some fun over another guy. Everything went smooth and gentle until one of them decided (or it was collective descicion) to make that case popular and it was thrown onto news portal. So after that we had a honest comuunity reaction from - "<3" to "die bastards"! EULA doesn't cover "a scam" portion, at least i didn't find it there saying it is offcicial and legal.
So one fo those guys banned now, and he was banned for a reason which CCP defined valid and strong enough to proceed with such penalty. More to come.
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Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
389
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Posted - 2015.06.15 02:34:22 -
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Scam seems legit, well thought out and executed.
As for the crowing afterwards via an out of game website with out of game recordings it's just nasty and something I couldn't actually bring myself to listen to although I'm sure some people got some kicks out of it.
There is such a thing as a bad winner.
but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
243
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Posted - 2015.06.15 09:08:29 -
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TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet wrote: Nobody is sure why Kaalatas was banned. Everything else is speculation. I should note that none of the many other people involved in this scam were banned. It is quite perplexing. If you pretend otherwise, you are either quite uniformed or disingenuous.
I simply do not care. I do not speculate either. There where enough reasons to pick for CCP. CCP found one to --> investigate! If its perma might to be proven, if someone would care. Which i do not. So i am not perplexed.
I am just having a big time seeing how this pathetic stunt backfired.
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:You brought up the matter of privacy, not me.
The EULA quote is entirely relevant to that part of your post;
No it is just one of other possible reasons for CCP to investigate. I do not want to discuss about EULAs, thats all.
Than again you start with EULAS. As is said, the victim did not need to assume that those conversations would be published in this way. EULA? remember? i do not care!
And no you did not mention Ripard Teg, i did! I think "why" should be clear if one reads my Postings seriously.
You really hope(think) i would ever click a link of yours again? lol
No keep your spoon to lick for yourself and stuffs for yourself...
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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