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Lucifer Iscariot
Sixteenth Amendment
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Posted - 2015.06.13 12:16:05 -
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The game has no real form anymore, it just throws updates into the meet grinder, says "let the players figure it out" and then nerfs everything once people start to use it and find their niche furthermore the decisions are plainly becoming arbitrary.
It is no secret to veteran players that changes that effect the entire games player base have routinely been made over the last two years simply for the sake of nerfing individual players or small groups within the game, who are commonly considered to have too much power at their disposal.
A word of advice before I go further to CCP and Dev; You are making the same mistake that a lot of MMORPG's make right before they go into decline... You are hurting the entire player base to stop certain individuals from doing what you don't like enough cancelled subscriptions will cause a money pit and cost you your jobs.
Goonswarm was recently victimized by such an update when jumping was nerfed because they had almost completely conquered nullsec. Anytime you get far enough, along comes a nerf to knock down your dominos. The reason given for such a nerf, was because null was becoming stagnant, that's what happens when you consolidate an empire, no more enemies and you rule over everyone. Goonswarm has now swung from being ruler to wounded fish in a barrel.
It has seemed lately that CCP has been under new management, as their characteristic style of slow, careful, sensible, incremental, change has been replaced with rash, short sighted, implementation of deliberate kill-updates targeting and singling out individual players or groups.
If this continues, it will lead to the decline of eve. CCP needs to slow down their zealous overhaul. It is too much too fast. It isent a matter of adapting to change any longer, when on a daily to weekly basis, no one knows how the game has changed or what is next on the chopping block, the process now seems almost completely arbitrary depending on who is being watched or finding an exploitable niche.
Smiting those who take initiative and find revolutionary and dynamic new forms of gameplay will destroy EvE and make it WoW in space.
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.06.13 12:29:09 -
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#eveisdyingagainforrealthistime |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.13 12:36:21 -
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Rowells wrote:#eveisdyingagainforrealthistime for really reals !?
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.13 12:44:23 -
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When should we tell him we supported the range nerfs as part of the null revamp we have pushed for?
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Arkady Romanov
Hole Violence Whole Squid
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Posted - 2015.06.13 12:50:47 -
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Lucifer Iscariot wrote: Goonswarm has now swung from being ruler to wounded fish in a barrel.
Pardon? By my reckoning, we've effectively won Dominion Sov. All of our traditional enemies are dead and have left nullsec or are on their way out more or less. The only ones left are us, and the mushrooms that sprung up to claim the space NC. and Nulli left in the massive vacuum of their exit.
After that things ground to a halt while everyone waits to see what fozziesov brings.
Whole Squid: Get Inked.
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Hellen Killer
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.13 12:52:59 -
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baltec1 wrote:When should we tell him we supported the range nerfs as part of the null revamp we have pushed for?
I wouldent recommend lying, it can get messy when people ask too many questions.
goonswarms mostly just alts anyway, that's why that got hacked to pieces by northern and are going to get invaded and whipped off the map, literally. |
Do Little
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.13 12:56:40 -
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Emergent gameplay encouraged by an unstructured sandbox is a large part of the reason EVE has survived as long as it has. As players we have wide latitude for innovation in the way we use the tools CCP gives us but we can't change the tools themselves - only the developers can do that. The balance that would be achieved through innovation in the real world needs to be provided by nerfs or buffs in the game environment.
Change rarely benefits those at the top - the best they can hope for is to maintain their position. For everyone else, change is an opportunity for things to get better. In a game context, we have new things to learn and do - basically more reasons to login. |
Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
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Posted - 2015.06.13 12:56:56 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Rowells wrote:#eveisdyingagainforrealthistime for really reals !? pho weal bro!!! |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1937
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Posted - 2015.06.13 13:16:19 -
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I want to be whipped off the map too! Sternly. Forcibly. Will there be leather? I hope so.
Crap, am out of beer.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Hemmo Paskiainen
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Posted - 2015.06.13 13:26:42 -
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Lucifer Iscariot wrote:The game has no real form anymore, it just throws updates into the meet grinder, says "let the players figure it out" and then nerfs everything once people start to use it and find their niche furthermore the decisions are plainly becoming arbitrary.
It is no secret to veteran players that changes that effect the entire games player base have routinely been made over the last two years simply for the sake of nerfing individual players or small groups within the game, who are commonly considered to have too much power at their disposal.
A word of advice before I go further to CCP and Dev; You are making the same mistake that a lot of MMORPG's make right before they go into decline... You are hurting the entire player base to stop certain individuals from doing what you don't like enough cancelled subscriptions will cause a money pit and cost you your jobs.
Goonswarm was recently victimized by such an update when jumping was nerfed because they had almost completely conquered nullsec. Anytime you get far enough, along comes a nerf to knock down your dominos. The reason given for such a nerf, was because null was becoming stagnant, that's what happens when you consolidate an empire, no more enemies and you rule over everyone. Goonswarm has now swung from being ruler to wounded fish in a barrel.
It has seemed lately that CCP has been under new management, as their characteristic style of slow, careful, sensible, incremental, change has been replaced with rash, short sighted, implementation of deliberate kill-updates targeting and singling out individual players or groups.
If this continues, it will lead to the decline of eve. CCP needs to slow down their zealous overhaul. It is too much too fast. It isent a matter of adapting to change any longer, when on a daily to weekly basis, no one knows how the game has changed or what is next on the chopping block, the process now seems almost completely arbitrary depending on who is being watched or finding an exploitable niche.
Smiting those who take initiative and find revolutionary and dynamic new forms of gameplay will destroy EvE and make it WoW in space.
Wow! You are a bigger blind sighted ****** than you ever think you will be. If you are a real EVE player, and if you were around before 2008 (you obvius aint, or this is troll), you get why these changes were sooo important.
Let me explain it loud and clear for you:
Who just took the Deklein region just before the information got out that the Technetium (a R32) was going to be the new Promethium (A R64), that was worth 4x the old Promethium? Why was a new bottleneck engineered? While it should had fixed the direct opposite? While even warned before implent? Why was this free moongoo ISK injection of 2 tril (Goon moon income) a month ignored for over 4 years? Why got Mom's buffed and Titan Guns with battleship Tracking? Why led this to a "free super's for everyone" SRP program during that time? Why lead this to a complete full blue donut in just 2 years time? Why did this lead to a side choosing mentality among eve's core veterans on the opposite of the winning teams? (Hello PL Nubs) Why did half of EVE players lose fate in the independentness of eve development? Why would build up a 0.0 corporation, alliance, and anything of it gets biased on such a way, while it is obvious for everyone? Why should you bother investing time in building some up, when the only thing you do is losing the sandcastle to cheating douchbaggs? Why has lead this to the poor geopolitical climate of 0.0 we are in now? Why..... am i answering my predictions that i did 6 years ago? Why do my friends and i hardly play eve anymore? and have a refusal mentality to pay real $$ for sub?
The answer to most of these questions, if not all, is: Goons and Team Greyscale (no serious, this is not a troll, im not accusing ccp employees, but who came up with all those changes?.....)
If there is someone to blaim, for the entire declined state of EVE, and why there are -20k Subs and a complete ruined geopolitical climate and knowledge gaps; It is especially because of the ******* Gooons aided by Technetium and ***** Legion!
Death to Gooons!
Death to any character with Goon History
Death to anyone that Aids Goonswarm Gayness
Death to Mitty'kitty and his Puppet Minions!!!
"Relativity equals time plus momentum: if it can be erased by a single click on a button, would it be worth spending your time?"
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.06.13 13:43:43 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:~Grr GoonsGäó~
FTFY, can I have your stuff?
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Mr Thicke
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.13 14:44:15 -
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Quote:Wow! You are a bigger blind sighted ****** than you ever think you will be. If you are a real EVE player, and if you were around before 2008 (you obvius aint, or this is troll), you get why these changes were sooo important.
Let me explain it loud and clear for you:
Who just took the Deklein region just before the information got out that the Technetium (a R32) was going to be the new Promethium (A R64), that was worth 4x the old Promethium? Why was a new bottleneck engineered? While it should had fixed the direct opposite? While even warned before implent? Why was this free moongoo ISK injection of 2 tril (Goon moon income) a month ignored for over 4 years? Why got Mom's buffed and Titan Guns with battleship Tracking? Why led this to a "free super's for everyone" SRP program during that time? Why lead this to a complete full blue donut in just 2 years time? Why did this lead to a side choosing mentality among eve's core veterans on the opposite of the winning teams? (Hello PL Nubs) Why did half of EVE players lose fate in the independentness of eve development? Why would build up a 0.0 corporation, alliance, and anything of it gets biased on such a way, while it is obvious for everyone? Why should you bother investing time in building some up, when the only thing you do is losing the sandcastle to cheating douchbaggs? Why has lead this to the poor geopolitical climate of 0.0 we are in now? Why..... am i answering my predictions that i did 6 years ago? Why do my friends and i hardly play eve anymore? and have a refusal mentality to pay real $$ for sub?
The answer to most of these questions, if not all, is: Goons and Team Greyscale (no serious, this is not a troll, im not accusing ccp employees, but who came up with all those changes?.....)
If there is someone to blaim, for the entire declined state of EVE, and why there are -20k Subs and a complete ruined geopolitical climate and knowledge gaps; It is especially because of the ******* Gooons aided by Technetium and ***** Legion!
Death to Gooons!
Death to any character with Goon History
Death to anyone that Aids Goonswarm Gayness
Death to Mitty'kitty and his Puppet Minions!!!
Cool story bro. But, uh, they didn't destroy their own empire on purpose and they fell back to dek because they had no where else to go when they were completely and utterly crushed by other empires who stole their space and cast them into the gutter |
Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.13 14:46:04 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:~Grr GoonsGäó~ FTFY, can I have your stuff?
No, Goons get to have his stuff.
-k8
My Faclub
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.06.13 14:55:29 -
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What is this thread about ? |
Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.06.13 14:58:42 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Rowells wrote:#eveisdyingagainforrealthistime for really reals !? 4sh1zzl3 |
Pops Tickle
Tickle Industries
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Posted - 2015.06.13 15:05:35 -
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Mr. Paskiainen seems to take this a bit too far? Wishing death onto fellow players?
CCP Rise wrote:
"We have tried and tried to validate the myth that griefing has a pronounced affect on new players
- we have failed."
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Hemmo Paskiainen
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Posted - 2015.06.13 15:09:50 -
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Pops Tickle wrote:Mr. Paskiainen seems to take this a bit too far? Wishing death onto fellow players?
Heyyy.... dont shoot the messenger! I just like to reclaim 0.0 geopolitical freedom from Goon and PL tyranny!!!!
"Relativity equals time plus momentum: if it can be erased by a single click on a button, would it be worth spending your time?"
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Pops Tickle
Tickle Industries
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Posted - 2015.06.13 15:27:32 -
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Roleplayer. :) Carry on lad!
CCP Rise wrote:
"We have tried and tried to validate the myth that griefing has a pronounced affect on new players
- we have failed."
Source
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Tau Onyeka
Krusual Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.06.13 16:04:33 -
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Lucifer Iscariot wrote:It is no secret to veteran players that changes that effect the entire games player base have routinely been made over the last two years simply for the sake of nerfing individual players or small groups within the game, who are commonly considered to have too much power at their disposal.
The nanonerfs of 2008 want a word with you.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
5832
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Posted - 2015.06.13 16:54:34 -
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Quote:Forum rules3. Ranting is prohibited.A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. 17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. Eve is dying! Not again.
Closed.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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