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Sadr Dillinger
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2015.06.14 14:56:25 -
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This is intended as a simple poll, rather than lengthy debates - happy to discuss pro's/con's in another thread, it is very much a double edged sword, as are so many things in Eve.
However, the premise is simple:
Watch lists provide real-time, instantaneous intelligence from anywhere in the cluster or beyond (WH space). In essence, 'free' intel, with no downsides, no drawbacks. I believe this is wrong from the design intent of Eve, it is worse than any aspects of local channel 'free intel', and doesn't fit with any of the background 'lore'. Furthermore it stifles gameplay in a whole host of aspects, but I'm sure many can relate to the simple example; "nope, sorry lads we'll have to stop, X/Y/Z supercap watch-list just lit up...".
In simple terms, you should have to be on the grid with, within DScan range of, in local with, or spying via other means on a player to know their on/offline status.
So simple +1/-1:
Quote:Should watch-lists be permanently removed as a feature from Eve-online?
(I will tally results here, updating periodically)
+1 |
James Baboli
Ferrous Infernum
881
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Posted - 2015.06.14 15:23:30 -
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To confirm, -1 means leaving watchlist as it is? If so, -1.
Talking more,
Flying crazier,
And drinking more
Making battleships worth the warp
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Iain Cariaba
1525
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Posted - 2015.06.14 16:02:55 -
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-1
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Will troll for a t-shirt.
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2897
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Posted - 2015.06.14 16:04:30 -
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I can see the logic in wanting it removed but I also see the need to keep it around. +/-0
Roleplaying Trinkets for Explorers and Collectors
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1093
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Posted - 2015.06.14 16:23:26 -
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+1
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
So, why do I post here?
Because of this: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Snuffed Out
8181
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Posted - 2015.06.14 16:42:37 -
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-1
If a person knows what they are doing, it is actually VERY hard to hunt them down (even with the watchlist as it currently is). Especially in more "risky" areas of space.
How did you Veterans start?
The Skillpoint System and You
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FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
456
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Posted - 2015.06.14 17:41:24 -
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I have no issues with them as they currently exist so according to Baboli's scheme i vote -1 |
Zimmer Jones
Aliastra Gallente Federation
210
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Posted - 2015.06.14 17:53:14 -
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-1
You are content to be content. This is not a jedi mind trick, you're just the game
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Nyalnara
Dark Evil Undead Ponies Productions
19
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Posted - 2015.06.14 18:20:28 -
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-1, I'm fine with how it work. Sometime i'm the hunter, most of the time i'm not.
In case of ponies, keep calm and start running.
French half-noob. Founder of [DEUPP]Dark Evil Undead Ponies Productions.
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Zen Tsai
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.06.14 18:29:22 -
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-1
To what end? |
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Madd Adda
95
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Posted - 2015.06.14 20:33:22 -
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-1, watchlists like local are a necessary evil. watchlists don't tell where the targets are in new eden, what they are doing, if they are currently docked, or what they are flying at present.
Carebear extraordinaire
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10070
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Posted - 2015.06.14 20:55:14 -
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-1 watchlist brave, I dear you
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Nasar Vyron
S0utherN Comfort DARKNESS.
92
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Posted - 2015.06.14 21:37:57 -
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+1, assuming my + can also count for reworking it such that to appear on a watchlist both parties must have each other added. Not it's complete removal. |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2015.06.15 01:14:55 -
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+1.
Watchlists should require the watchee to approve the watcher.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
236
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Posted - 2015.06.15 01:33:03 -
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ALL free intel should be permanently removed, work for it or gfto.
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
784
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Posted - 2015.06.15 01:56:44 -
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+1. Scouting should be manual not automatic. If you want to catch that cap pilot or blingy mission runner become a good scout or befriend a good scout. I also support removing or lowering the effectiveness of locator agents. New scouting tools should then replace the defunct watchlists and locators. These new tools would be effective in their own way but require more player involvement and skill.
There are all our dominion
Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
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Madd Adda
96
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Posted - 2015.06.15 05:59:56 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:ALL free intel should be permanently removed, work for it or gfto. just being online with or without a watchlist is free intel. Simply being on these forums looking at posts from other pilots is free intel. You want to remove free intel, it should start with the third party killboard sites
Carebear extraordinaire
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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1409
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Posted - 2015.06.15 07:18:36 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:ALL free intel should be permanently removed, work for it or gfto.
Tell me how you know the difference between me magically disappearing from existence (log off) vs just hard to find without it.
The watch list is a counter to the ability to log off and disappear from the universe, immune to harm.
Not only that, if you have a fear of being listed the fix is simple - don't log off.
-1 until logging off is banned. So, -1 forever. |
Samillian
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
839
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Posted - 2015.06.15 07:45:07 -
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-1, I have no problem with the watchlist since EVERYONE has the facility and the intel given is binary.
NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
990
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Posted - 2015.06.15 14:37:28 -
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+1
but I wouldnt simply remove them but implement some kind of friendlist and request/accept/reject system when you add a contact to your watchlist. Noone should be able to monitor your online status without your approval. |
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Kenrailae
Fallen Reich
361
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Posted - 2015.06.15 14:43:40 -
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Watch list itself says very little and has other uses besides. I believe the option you're looking for is 'log in as invisible'.... or something
The Law is a point of View
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Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
134
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Posted - 2015.06.15 14:50:15 -
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+1
remove LOCAL and WATCHLIST
The UI update we deserve
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Oddsodz
The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. A Band Apart.
155
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Posted - 2015.06.15 17:25:47 -
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+1
System needs to be changed so that if you wish to know when I have logged in, You have to be my friend (IE: I have ticked a box somewhere that lets you add me to your watch list.) |
Juan Mileghere
Incident Command Southern Star Dominion
31
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Posted - 2015.06.15 17:53:10 -
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-1
Blobbing Explained
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Sadr Dillinger
Nulli-Secundus
1
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Posted - 2015.06.15 18:15:16 -
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James Baboli wrote:To confirm, -1 means leaving watchlist as it is? If so, -1. Yes, -1 = '"Leave untouched", +1 = "remove" (no more 'free' intel but with the caveat, there would probably have to be some discussion on 'how' to remove...)
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Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.06.15 22:25:49 -
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I say, 0 - touched, not removed.
Just make it so you can't be watchlisted without your permission. That way we keep them as a nice social feature, leave the opportunity for creative social engineer-ish spying in form of pretending to be friends and getting the permission, but remove the unnecessary free intel. Move that online notification to locator agents, so it has a cost and requires you to interact with an agent if you want that intel, then it's somewhat justifiable that you get it, getting it for free isn't. |
Aeon Veritas
Lobach Inc. Easily Offended
6
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Posted - 2015.06.16 09:37:43 -
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-1
General module tiericide thoughts
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