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Redwyne Vyruk
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.21 20:26:42 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Tappits wrote:PL has not done anything that technically we could not do on TQ so far That's bullshit.There is only 50 Chameleons that exist in the game. You guys were bring 60-70 at once and everyone knows PL does not own all 50 on TQ, much less 20 more that do not exist. Same deal with the rest of AT ships. But I suspect that no matter how many of these facts are presented to you; the lies will continue to be vomited from your mouth.
Hello i'm a Brave Pilot! I got told we were gonna rock and kill all bad guys in new sov but...
OMG 9UY is RF, we tried to form for that and we lost a TQ R64 and we lost also the timer on Duality!
Time to use my super weapon! Complaining about everything everywhere!
Seriously, this is not reddit.
You complain about AT ships, which you can buy same as us.
You complain about supers that we basically never used.
You complain about how Duality is unrealistic and then you field fleets that are worth more than 1 month of Brave SRP every day.
I can understand you are now completely lost in the URRR DURR PL but seriously, dont' start crying also against CCP just because you always have to find an excuse for how things goes. |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
313
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Posted - 2015.06.21 20:51:53 -
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If you're so confident you don't need the AT ships to win, support not having the AT ships seeded on Duality.
I dare you.
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Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.21 21:02:24 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:If you're so confident you don't need the AT ships to win, support not having the AT ships seeded on Duality.
I dare you.
O no guys he called us out... i guess we should unseed all dreads carriers and faction ships while we are at it.
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SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
313
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Posted - 2015.06.21 21:23:06 -
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Tappits wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:If you're so confident you don't need the AT ships to win, support not having the AT ships seeded on Duality.
I dare you. O no guys he called us out... i guess we should unseed all dreads carriers and faction ships while we are at it. Not what I said at all. Stop with the straw-man fallacies.
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Redwyne Vyruk
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
6
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Posted - 2015.06.21 21:35:58 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:If you're so confident you don't need the AT ships to win, support not having the AT ships seeded on Duality.
I dare you.
I dare you to spend one day without whining about something, your life quality will prob increase a lot, all this anger don't make good to health. |
Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
107
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Posted - 2015.06.21 21:43:24 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Tappits wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:If you're so confident you don't need the AT ships to win, support not having the AT ships seeded on Duality.
I dare you. O no guys he called us out... i guess we should unseed all dreads carriers and faction ships while we are at it. Not what I said at all. Stop with the straw-man fallacies.
Its not straw-man.... you said it was unrealistic, i said fine lets make it 100% like TQ and now your like no that's not what i asked for....
I just cannot wait till we use our unseeded and officer fitted Adrestia fleet from our AT hanger that we moved down. |
Traxev
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
5
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Posted - 2015.06.21 21:43:58 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Tappits wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:If you're so confident you don't need the AT ships to win, support not having the AT ships seeded on Duality.
I dare you. O no guys he called us out... i guess we should unseed all dreads carriers and faction ships while we are at it. Not what I said at all. Stop with the straw-man fallacies.
So wait if you if we use it, it is overpowered and shouldn't be seeded. If you use it its fair and balanced and should remain? |
Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:02:43 -
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Traxev wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Tappits wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:If you're so confident you don't need the AT ships to win, support not having the AT ships seeded on Duality.
I dare you. O no guys he called us out... i guess we should unseed all dreads carriers and faction ships while we are at it. Not what I said at all. Stop with the straw-man fallacies. So wait if you if we use it, it is overpowered and shouldn't be seeded. If you use it its fair and balanced and should remain?
I guess he would like us to use ishtars for everything nbd to us. |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
313
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:11:13 -
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Traxev wrote:So wait if you if we use it, it is overpowered and shouldn't be seeded. If you use it its fair and balanced and should remain? I never said that either. What is wrong with you guys?
Regardless. This has quickly went from simple feedback; me saying the AT ships should be removed to create a more realistic environment, to a PL and Spectre circle jerk CTA.
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Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:20:28 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Traxev wrote:So wait if you if we use it, it is overpowered and shouldn't be seeded. If you use it its fair and balanced and should remain? I never said that either. What is wrong with you guys? Regardless. This has quickly went from simple feedback; me saying the AT ships should be removed to create a more realistic environment, to a PL and Spectre circle jerk CTA.
No we have been saying fine make it realistic and then you say "no that's not what i am saying" when we say yer remove all the dumb stuff, i have no idea what you want... i don't think you know what you want ether. |
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Naughty Dred
Running with Dogs Stella Nova
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:26:05 -
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Now i really hate to say anything that might be misconstrued as 'in defense of' pl but we have had a couple of minor/medium encounters with them in the last couple of days and so far they have not dropped anything i would consider completely ridiculous. An unnecessary marauder or 2 and yes the AT ships, but I killed a few of them with just 1 cynabal, so they cant be that awesome. And from the off Brave has been sat outside 9UY in carriers and dreads like carebears outside amarr, which would be fine if you weren't so god damn untidy... its tidy now though, Spectre tidied it up for you :)
Anyway everyone should stop bitching and embrace this brief bit of freedom from the servitude of the killboard. |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
313
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:31:36 -
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Tappits wrote:i have no idea what you want... i don't think you know what you want ether. I have been crystal clear from the start and I really don't know how to make it easier to understand: Remove the AT ships.
Is that simple enough for you to understand?
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Tappits
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
109
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:39:41 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Tappits wrote:i have no idea what you want... i don't think you know what you want ether. I have been crystal clear from the start and I really don't know how to make it easier to understand: Remove the AT ships.Is that simple enough for you to understand?
Fine... Slowcats supers titans TFI's and Ishtars for the nest few weeks then... have fun. |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
313
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:42:55 -
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Tappits wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Tappits wrote:i have no idea what you want... i don't think you know what you want ether. I have been crystal clear from the start and I really don't know how to make it easier to understand: Remove the AT ships.Is that simple enough for you to understand? Fine... Slowcats supers titans TFI's and Ishtars for the nest few weeks then... have fun. Deal. I'll let the remaining 12 Brave pilots who still log into Duality know to leave the AT ships undocked. Don't forget to tell Spectre no AT ships is now part of their contract.
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Traxev
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
6
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:49:16 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:Tappits wrote:i have no idea what you want... i don't think you know what you want ether. I have been crystal clear from the start and I really don't know how to make it easier to understand: Remove the AT ships.Is that simple enough for you to understand?
And we have been equally clear that by following your logic. Anything that is not viable on tranquility shouldn't be viable here. So naturally you shouldn't get 100 isk dreads or carriers, you shouldn't get 100 isk mauaraders or 100 isk orthruses. So go form up your eagle fleet we will have the full range of our ship docterines from tranquility at hand and after all that trouble you will still lose horribly.
So instead of making this terribly painful for all of us. Stop your complaining, enjoy the cheap ships allowing you to do things that you can't do on the normal server and have some fun. |
Jayne Fillon
723
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Posted - 2015.06.21 22:55:51 -
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Traxev wrote: ...and have some fun. Something ironic about that.
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CoffinBait
Colonial Cartel Praetorian Directorate
1
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Posted - 2015.06.22 03:43:25 -
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I'd prefer a full AT PL everyday over a full slowcat and super fleet. The first you can fight - the second will just laugh at your damage while neuting and FB-ing you :)
That being said , I do feel the tnode capture timers are a bit long - even as defenders you will spend 2-3 hours every other day just because some guys decided to have some fun and RF an ihub or 10. |
Warmeister
Van Diemen's Demise Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2015.06.22 03:50:47 -
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i think the timer durations are starting to grow on me. i can see how a small coordinated defending force can fend off bigger attacking force if they focus on defending their pocket of space, which is something i really like. |
DNLeviathan
Dead Or Alive Inc. Praetorian Directorate
42
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Posted - 2015.06.22 04:04:00 -
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Time to join the b**ch fest :D
While I may be in one of the smaller alliances participating in this, we have certainly been active. Agressed by most of the groups here and done our fair share of roaming too. So here is my 10 bobs worth:
1: Was a little hesitant about the time it was taking to defend but having spent a few days on it now its not that bad and I believe us little guys may just have a chance of having a little corner somewhere undesired.
2: Ship availability, dont change a thing. I have been around the block and back and can honestly say i see PL in non-AT ships a hell of a lot less than I see them in other ships. Seen more in Marauders tbf and only 3 AT ships in the whole time i have been on duality (from the day before competition started basically). As for the rest of the ships, it gives everyone a chance to see what they could be using on TQ but dont for the fear of loss to blob ganks etc. Yes we do use dreads and carriers on duality for pvp but in tq we use them for pve, its a pleasant change. and yes we use AT ships frequently but far from always.
3: Brave should join back up with TEST and be best friends again.
4: I have more points but having spent 18 of the last 24 hours on eve, i cant think and need my sleep. |
Shadoo
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
354
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Posted - 2015.06.22 04:08:51 -
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I like the idea of distributed style of capturing, encouraging smaller fleets of specialized make up to capture/defend stuff.
Not sure about the single large flashpoint culmination of ihub/tcu defense/offense when the new tcu/ihub is dropped though - if I was running defense, I'd probably just park a max numbers slowcat/super fleet at a planet and wait to drop a new ihub/tcu and hold the grid while the aggressors are running around in puny ships capping nodes and thus killing the old one. But maybe I'm just a cynic.
But, if you are going to still provide a single flashpoint for captures (as you currently are), why not also build in the system to support that and allow for tactical benefit? For example, provide more benefits in capturing adjacent non-station systems in a constellation and instead of spawning nodes everywhere in the constellation, only spawn nodes in the systems the defending alliance still holds sov. Allow us to siege the outlaying walls of the fortress, or go for the throat and attempt to overpower around the castle -- the choice is yours style... |
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Jayne Fillon
727
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Posted - 2015.06.22 04:11:48 -
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Nevermind that, Shadoo is alive???
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KristyDawn
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2015.06.22 05:23:09 -
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What was the reasoning for rewarding the meta module names via a raffle instead of basing it on the top 4 alliances that captured the most sov? |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
313
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Posted - 2015.06.22 05:56:18 -
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KristyDawn wrote:What was the reasoning for rewarding the meta module names via a raffle instead of basing it on the top 4 alliances that captured the most sov? It would mean no one would do anything till the end. This way there is incentive to do the sov stuff the entire time.
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YamiFreighter
Full Spectrum Inc Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.06.22 06:13:55 -
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My experiences so far with Fozziesov are mixed as are my opinions.
The first part, where you entosis the structure and the structure is reinforced. If the enemy actively maintains the indexes the system takes quite a while to take. The maintained indexes also give them a more predictable window in which they must defend the area. Its the part of the game where you kick a nest of hornets and get ready to deal with what comes, be it blob warfare, a HAC fleet or an I don't give a damn cuz its out of my timezone response.
I like this part.
The second part, where you must essentially control the majority of the constellation while your alliance captures command nodes. This encourages unconventional tactics which I get a good laugh out of, even if the limitless isk and tournament ships do drain the fun out of it to a degree.
I like this part.
Then there is the last part, this part only applies to TCUs and IHUBs, where the structure is first destroyed and then you place your own down, you have essentially bested your adversary through two differently managed stages of the vulnerability timer. But the thing that's out of place here is that assuming you own the system, you can let the attackers do whatever they want in your system for the first two timers, right up until the end where they place their own structure down, and then hotdrop with overwhelming force as soon as they drop their structure down, losing pretty much nothing in the process, resetting the process, and achiving nothing but -1 sov structure for the attackers and the need to do it all again.
I think this part is absolutely no fun at all.
CCP Fozzie I believe it was mentioned somwhere that these sov mechanics were to enable to make smaller entities able to claim sov, but this last part not only goes against that, but gives the defenders ample time to prepare all the assets for the only part of the sov warfare that even matters. In fact I'll go as far as to say that at this point the other mechanics are simply hoops to be jumped through so that this final encounter may be attempted. |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
314
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Posted - 2015.06.22 07:00:53 -
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YamiFreighter wrote:Then there is the last part, this part only applies to TCUs and IHUBs, where the structure is first destroyed and then you place your own down, you have essentially bested your adversary through two differently managed stages of the vulnerability timer. But the thing that's out of place here is that assuming you own the system, you can let the attackers do whatever they want in your system for the first two timers, right up until the end where they place their own structure down, and then hotdrop with overwhelming force as soon as they drop their structure down, losing pretty much nothing in the process, resetting the process, and achiving nothing but -1 sov structure for the attackers and the need to do it all again.
I think this part is absolutely no fun at all.
CCP Fozzie I believe it was mentioned somwhere that these sov mechanics were to enable to make smaller entities able to claim sov, but this last part not only goes against that, but gives the defenders ample time to prepare all the assets for the only part of the sov warfare that even matters. In fact I'll go as far as to say that at this point the other mechanics are simply hoops to be jumped through so that this final encounter may be attempted. I agree with what you said. If the final engagement can be simply won with hot dropping all the things on one grid, and winning the entire thing(?), how is that any better than dominion sov?
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KristyDawn
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.22 07:05:39 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:KristyDawn wrote:What was the reasoning for rewarding the meta module names via a raffle instead of basing it on the top 4 alliances that captured the most sov? It would mean no one would do anything till the end. This way there is incentive to do the sov stuff the entire time.
That makes no sense, starting early ensures the most systems captured. You don't know how long it takes to take a large amount of systems do you? |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.06.22 07:20:31 -
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KristyDawn wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:KristyDawn wrote:What was the reasoning for rewarding the meta module names via a raffle instead of basing it on the top 4 alliances that captured the most sov? It would mean no one would do anything till the end. This way there is incentive to do the sov stuff the entire time. That makes no sense, starting early ensures the most systems captured. You don't know how long it takes to take a large amount of systems do you? PL seems to have taken a lot real fast and we are only four days into the competition. Please explain what I am missing?
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KristyDawn
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.22 07:28:18 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:KristyDawn wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:KristyDawn wrote:What was the reasoning for rewarding the meta module names via a raffle instead of basing it on the top 4 alliances that captured the most sov? It would mean no one would do anything till the end. This way there is incentive to do the sov stuff the entire time. That makes no sense, starting early ensures the most systems captured. You don't know how long it takes to take a large amount of systems do you? PL seems to have taken a lot real fast and we are only four days into the competition. Please explain what I am missing?
What does that have to do with the raffle system? We have taken a lot of systems because we have people capturing nodes almost 24/7. |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
314
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Posted - 2015.06.22 07:31:52 -
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KristyDawn wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:KristyDawn wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:KristyDawn wrote:What was the reasoning for rewarding the meta module names via a raffle instead of basing it on the top 4 alliances that captured the most sov? It would mean no one would do anything till the end. This way there is incentive to do the sov stuff the entire time. That makes no sense, starting early ensures the most systems captured. You don't know how long it takes to take a large amount of systems do you? PL seems to have taken a lot real fast and we are only four days into the competition. Please explain what I am missing? What does that have to do with the raffle system? We have taken a lot of systems because we have people capturing nodes almost 24/7. I'll give you some time to realize what you have said.
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KristyDawn
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.22 07:34:35 -
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SilentAsTheGrave wrote:KristyDawn wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote:KristyDawn wrote:SilentAsTheGrave wrote: It would mean no one would do anything till the end. This way there is incentive to do the sov stuff the entire time.
That makes no sense, starting early ensures the most systems captured. You don't know how long it takes to take a large amount of systems do you? PL seems to have taken a lot real fast and we are only four days into the competition. Please explain what I am missing? What does that have to do with the raffle system? We have taken a lot of systems because we have people capturing nodes almost 24/7. I'll give you some time to realize what you have said.
I think you have a poor understanding of pretty much everything :) |
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