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Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:05:15 -
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So we have these insane people in our corp. They mine with like 10 characters at once and they don't use IS boxer. If you don't believe me then don't bother reading the rest.
These guys cause so many problems for us. Managing 10 accounts manually is tough. You do rely on things like fleet warp etc. But these guys are loosing haulers and mining ships and we're always telling them 'one of your toons is got his lasers off'.
We're talking the most non-is boxer non botting crew you can think of. One guy makes a game out of the APM of it all.
Well, I am here to tell you that CCP is starting to ban players who appear to be boxing.
More than one person in our corp was banned yesterday.
Unless I misunderstand the rules CCP has done this in error.
A lot of us have been sitting by watching CCP make their changes to the game in the last few months. CCP has done a lot of things to screw over the little guy actually.....I wont get into it.
But nothing took the wind out of our sails like hearing two of our good friends, who we are on coms with every night, friends who donate time and help in big ways to the little miner, have been screwed royally by CCP for a crime they didnt commit.
tl/dr CCP is banning non botting multi box players and giving them absoultey 0 recourse for fairness.
There's over 200 people in our corp and 190 of them can attest to the fact if these guys are isboxing they are the worst is boxers ever.
hey CCP guess what -- you are wrong and you continue to dig yourselves into a hole by alienating the people you once called customers. Jump drive changes, Fozzie Sov changes and now banning innocent miners...In the last 18 months each and every decision you've made has screwed over the 100-300 member corps trying to provide gaming communities for their memebers.
CCP fix your anti botting code or clarify that you dont want players manually controlling more than x accounts.
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:13:51 -
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You're not warning anybody. Your tone and the general setup of your post clearly make this a rant.
Thats lying. Pls change the title and be honest. |
Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:17:32 -
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troll.
The point of the message remains and yes i am pissed off. What do you want? A Friendly reminder that CCP is acting like douchebags on this issue?
Funny how mining fleets get reported as botters but the guy botting 4 tengus night after night doesn't get called out.
Mad at someone in eve? Report them as a botter and get CCP doing your pvp for you.
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
533
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:19:50 -
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Dor Cadmon wrote:tl/dr There's over 200 people in our corp and 190 of them can attest to the fact if these guys are isboxing they are the worst is boxers ever
So you're unsure whether that is the case or not.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK. Gÿ+
Nullsec Ore Changes - Lowend Mineral Price Tracking [2015]
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:20:24 -
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I'm sorry to hear about your friends.
Hopefully they can follow the proper channels for review/appeal and have a positive outcome.
Otherwise I foresee the lock through these goggles, good sir.
In Anoikis .. Bob Is Always Watching ...
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
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Xtreem
Echelon Research SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:20:51 -
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Are you sure they are manual? I am only asking as I am sure CCP can check when commands were issued or at least received by the server with ten accounts for example you would have a few seconds delay in each command having to click from one to the other, while ccp can be aa little heavy at times I am sure they checked this basic thing and thus legitimately banned them? |
Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:23:49 -
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Xtreem wrote:Are you sure they are manual? I am only asking as I am sure CCP can check when commands were issued or at least received by the server with ten accounts for example you would have a few seconds delay in each command having to click from one to the other, while ccp can be aa little heavy at times I am sure they checked this basic thing and thus legitimately banned them?
Sir, i know we are just on forums and stuff but I swear on my pimp fitted Velator that I wouldnt be here if i thought there was any chance they were broadcasting.
If I thought there was a chance these guys would get a fair shake I'd leave them to just their own recourse through official channels.
This matter needs to be discussed because now a bunch of corp members are actually afraid to play their (manual) game....im not kidding. CCP has made a mistake here and this needs to be brought to light. |
Zealous Miner
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:26:17 -
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Dor Cadmon wrote:A lot of us have been sitting by watching CCP make their changes to the game in the last few months. CCP has done a lot of things to screw over the little guy actually.....I wont get into it. Well, I will.
How exactly is someone multi-boxing 10 miners "the little guy"?
Fedo. Fedo? Fedo!
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Pixie Tickle
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:28:21 -
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Ya should consider that they're not telling you the truth. It might be a hard pill to swallow but unless ya sit right next to em ya can't possibly tell if they're doing bad things they shouldn't do. And that's the crux of the matter. Ya CAN NOT tell if they are telling the truth unless ya sit right next to em! |
Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:29:00 -
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More trolling and deraling but fine.
The little guy here is the shaved ape who worked his day and just wants to jump on coms with his friends.
Jump drive changes killed the buyback program of the smaller miner corps.
Fozzie sov killed renter space - fine, we adapted.
You want to catch me on semantics fine.....but the issue here is multi boxing, non broadcasting , non isboxer players are being banned.
And those people are the ones who work an honest day and just want to help some friends for a few hours. Go ahead and judge the multi account thing but is it or is it not against the TOS to use these accounts manually.
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Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:30:23 -
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Pixie Tickle wrote:Ya should consider that they're not telling you the truth. It might be a hard pill to swallow but unless ya sit right next to em ya can't possibly tell if they're doing bad things they shouldn't do. And that's the crux of the matter. Ya CAN NOT tell if they are telling the truth unless ya sit right next to em!
and you should consider the fact that I am telling the truth. These guys are in the processing capturing their game play style just to prove you naysayers wrong. |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
533
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:31:40 -
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Dor Cadmon wrote: Fozzie sov killed renter space - fine, we adapted.
Still to come in July.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK. Gÿ+
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
709
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:34:44 -
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Since you went ahead and insulted CCP Falcon in his own thread, I'm sure your corpies will be very grateful with your assistance in getting them unbanned.
Small edit: I've grabbed some popcorn if anyone is interested |
Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:35:10 -
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GankYou wrote:Dor Cadmon wrote: Fozzie sov killed renter space - fine, we adapted.
Still to come in July.
already killed it though.
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Lisa Gentilette
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:35:50 -
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The only proof we have that your friends are not multi boxing is your word. The only proof you have your friends are not multi boxing is their word.
Anyway, ranting, posting in the wrong thread + redundant (see top sticky), discussing bans, going through the wrong channel (we cannot in anyway help, a petition would be the right course), I wonder how long it takes for this to be locked. |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
533
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:36:18 -
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Dor Cadmon wrote:GankYou wrote:Dor Cadmon wrote: Fozzie sov killed renter space - fine, we adapted.
Still to come in July. already killed it though.
Fun is yet to come.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK. Gÿ+
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Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:36:43 -
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Lisa Gentilette wrote:The only proof we have that your friends are not multi boxing is your word. The only proof you have your friends are not multi boxing is their word. Anyway, ranting, posting in the wrong thread + redundant (see top sticky), discussing bans, going through the wrong channel (we cannot in anyway help, a petition would be the right course), I wonder how long it takes for this to be locked.
not looking to prove it here, are you insane? I'm just bringing the issue to light. |
Pixie Tickle
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:42:38 -
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Dor Cadmon wrote:Pixie Tickle wrote:Ya should consider that they're not telling you the truth. It might be a hard pill to swallow but unless ya sit right next to em ya can't possibly tell if they're doing bad things they shouldn't do. And that's the crux of the matter. Ya CAN NOT tell if they are telling the truth unless ya sit right next to em! and you should consider the fact that I am telling the truth. These guys are in the processing capturing their game play style just to prove you naysayers wrong. So they twitch when they don't run illegal software. If that's what ya meant with "capturing". And it's damn easy to make deliberate mistakes in the game to make it look like they're legit. You have NO PROOF man, get it into ya head! It's so easy to fake cluelessness and mistakes!
"OMG WHY AM I SHOOTING YA I DONT WANNA HOW CAN I TURN IT OFF" said the awoxing corpmate laughing his ass off as he shoots ya blingship. |
Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:51:14 -
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Dor Cadmon wrote: Sir, i know we are just on forums and stuff but I swear on my pimp fitted Velator that I wouldnt be here if i thought there was any chance they were broadcasting.
Post the Velator fit please.
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Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.17 11:56:14 -
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They manually control 10 miners?
What ships do they use?
I have all on sometimes keeping up with an Orca/Hulk/Hulk setup, between D Scan, emptying the mtu etc and then keeping an eye on the survey scanner so that I don't waste most of a cycle on each Hulk..
It keeps you busy, someone doing it with 10? I don't believe they could do it without some outside help. I never will. |
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
783
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Posted - 2015.06.17 12:19:09 -
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Dor Cadmon wrote:
Managing 10 accounts manually is tough.
CCP has done a lot of things to screw over the little guy actually.....I wont get into it.
sorry did i miss something here? who is the little guy?
in all fairness your friend is doing nothing but screwing the little guy over by being downright greedy
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.17 12:21:38 -
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I call shenanigans. I've been multiboxing for years (literal years) and have never had an issue. If you(r friend) can issue commands fast enough to look like a botter to CCP when they aren't, they should be playing Starcraft competitively and making mad dough, brah.
In any case, your (friend's) way forward is clear: 1. File a petition. 2. File a petition. ???? 4. Profit from filing a petition.
Also, I would be slightly less ranty in your petition, if you expect CCP to actually listen to you(r friend).
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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MonkeyBusiness Thiesant
randomly named no tax corp v2
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Posted - 2015.06.17 12:37:25 -
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Dor Cadmon wrote:They mine with like 10 characters at once and they don't use IS boxer.
How do you know that?
CCP has a client running on each PC after all, easy for them to see the multiboxxing software.
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.06.17 12:52:03 -
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Of course, I always believe everything I read on the internet. I'll bet the OP believes everything he hears on TS.
I survived Win95
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Heera-o Helugo
By Light and Banner's Fallen
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Posted - 2015.06.17 12:58:33 -
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My favorite part of his thread is how anyone who questions or doubts the OP is a "troll" or "derailing" the thread. Kinda reminds me of a certain Csm wanna be |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.06.17 13:14:10 -
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So YOU got banned, and now you're "bringing the issue to light" by swearing up and down that you didn't use input automation. What do you want us to do about it? We're not gonna shoot any Jita monuments; I don't think we care. |
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
786
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Posted - 2015.06.17 13:15:39 -
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i guess 10 noob ice miners might be able to make a bit of isk now...
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Valkin Mordirc
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Posted - 2015.06.17 13:25:55 -
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CCP has ways of telling is somebody is using a program to for input automation. And It's mechanical or Software that will get you banned.
That being said,
If you buddy legitmantly is not using any of the sort. File a Petition go through the proper channels, don't come on to GD and rant about it. That is childish.
IB4L
#DeleteTheWeak
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Dor Cadmon
New Artisian and Mercenary Association
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Posted - 2015.06.17 13:35:32 -
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the original point remains.
Good luck when you're affected.
The war is on against all multiboxers, not just the input automation ones.
These are good people who were not broadcasting....they were too bad at it to be broadcasting.
Normal human repetitive behaviour has been caught up in the automation detection scheme here. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
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Posted - 2015.06.17 13:36:27 -
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This old smokescreen again?
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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