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Amarkir Krindrik
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.20 17:55:44 -
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I've just started playing EVE for the first time (I tried it once a few years back but had no idea what I was doing) and want to get into Piracy as a career. I'll be upgrading my trial account to a full account in the next few weeks once I build a new computer. I have been in the game for only 5-6 hours so far, and have been grinding rats to make money while I train up some skills (it makes me more ISK than mining and gets me some limited combat experience).
I was wondering if anyone had advice on joining a pirate corp, preferably one that welcomes new players.
Thanks! |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2015.06.20 19:23:02 -
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go look in local lo-sec systems
use the corp search tool, and set appropriate filters
join some community channels that focus on killing stuff eg quafe central (someone will provide a list, im sure) |
Lulu Lunette
Custodes Olim United Systems of Aridia
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Posted - 2015.06.20 19:25:45 -
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Amarkir Krindrik wrote:I've just started playing EVE for the first time (I tried it once a few years back but had no idea what I was doing) and want to get into Piracy as a career. I'll be upgrading my trial account to a full account in the next few weeks once I build a new computer. I have been in the game for only 5-6 hours so far, and have been grinding rats to make money while I train up some skills (it makes me more ISK than mining and gets me some limited combat experience).
I was wondering if anyone had advice on joining a pirate corp, preferably one that welcomes new players.
Thanks!
Check out the ingame channel Red Wolf Fighting Society.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.20 20:34:39 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:Amarkir Krindrik wrote:I've just started playing EVE for the first time (I tried it once a few years back but had no idea what I was doing) and want to get into Piracy as a career. I'll be upgrading my trial account to a full account in the next few weeks once I build a new computer. I have been in the game for only 5-6 hours so far, and have been grinding rats to make money while I train up some skills (it makes me more ISK than mining and gets me some limited combat experience).
I was wondering if anyone had advice on joining a pirate corp, preferably one that welcomes new players.
Thanks! Check out the ingame channel Red Wolf Fighting Society. Belligerent undesirables is ok also.
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Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2015.06.20 20:49:28 -
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Aye. Got a little channel listed above that gives out help and advices to people like you :) |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2015.06.21 02:46:55 -
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And while you are looking around for a pirate corp to join run all of the tutorials. Why? ISK and free stuf as well as exposure to many things you will need to know at some point.
Oh and while you are looking around better talk to others about that pirate thing, it is quite likely that pirate in EvE has an entirely different definition than what you may be thinking.
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Fal Shepard
Arkonor of the Covenant
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Posted - 2015.06.22 12:04:06 -
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Now don't be intimidated that everyone else fly's bigger and better ships than you. Young and inexperienced players shine when it comes to blitzing a target with electric warfare as part of a larger fleet. EW is usually fairly easy to train and learn and can be remarkably inexpensive and effective. If you want to become a damage dealer for your fleet, I recommend training up destroyers with the small turret at level 5 after you do some EW.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.22 14:31:41 -
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piracy isnt really a career as such, you probably wont make any money from piracy itself unless your ganking freighters, most pirates have alts to do money making things (faction warfare missions etc), also dont get too attached to highsec, being a pirate will mean dropping to -10.0 eventually and you wont be able to do much in highsec.
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Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.22 15:14:34 -
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OUCH is a null sec survival/pvp training corp. Most of the pvp portion of our training revolves around bubble camps, which is considered a pirate's way of playing the game. Check out our Community Spotlight here. |
Staten Island
Bagel and Lox
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Posted - 2015.06.22 15:22:54 -
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Lan Wang wrote:piracy isnt really a career as such, you probably wont make any money from piracy itself unless your ganking freighters, most pirates have alts to do money making things (faction warfare missions etc), also dont get too attached to highsec, being a pirate will mean dropping to -10.0 eventually and you wont be able to do much in highsec.
but as Fal (who i would like to be my slave) said ewar is a good choice to train especially the maulus which is useful in any fleet
I cant really agree with you about piracy not making isk. The reality of isk is that you only need as much isk as you need to support the play style that you choose. For instance if you want to be a space lord owning an alliance and battling capitals all day, then you going to need lots of isk. But if you just want to shoot up frigs then you dont need much, just enough to replace your losses. For me, I hate eve pve. I dont rat unless I am extremely bored, I dont mission, and I rarely mine (unless I am spying on an ice belt for shenanigans). In fact, I would rather sit on a gate for hours waiting for something to happen then grind rats or rocks. Despite the fact that I dont pve much, I still have plenty of isk. More then enough to replace my ships if it came to that. I generally live off of the kills that we make. Now if you dont lose lots of ships, your kills are likely to sustain you. Ofc if you start derping BLOPS and capitals all over the place then you may have an isk problem. And PVP can make you space rich. Kill a fat blinged ship or a hauler filled with goodies and your set at least for a little while.
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Velarra
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Posted - 2015.06.22 15:32:00 -
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Amarkir Krindrik wrote:I've just started playing EVE for the first time (I tried it once a few years back but had no idea what I was doing) and want to get into Piracy as a career.
How do you define piracy? How do you understand piracy as a career exists in Eve?
What kind of piratical & nefarious activities do you want to engage in while playing Eve?
Depending on how you understand eve, - what you define as piracy may or may not be possible. Your understanding of piracy, of its own accord may not be able to keep you prosperous and able to keep afloat with sufficient income to just get by / break even.
How terrible/bad a pirate do you want to be and to what degree are you willing to adapt to the consequences of your choices as a "pirate" ? |
Vania Naari
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.22 15:41:38 -
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I'd like to roam in a small gang shooting stuff for fun, money is secondary. This used to be viable once, though I'm not sure this playstyle exists anymore. After being away for over 10 years I wouldn't even know where to start looking. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.06.22 15:45:30 -
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Staten Island wrote:Lan Wang wrote:piracy isnt really a career as such, you probably wont make any money from piracy itself unless your ganking freighters, most pirates have alts to do money making things (faction warfare missions etc), also dont get too attached to highsec, being a pirate will mean dropping to -10.0 eventually and you wont be able to do much in highsec.
but as Fal (who i would like to be my slave) said ewar is a good choice to train especially the maulus which is useful in any fleet I cant really agree with you about piracy not making isk. The reality of isk is that you only need as much isk as you need to support the play style that you choose. For instance if you want to be a space lord owning an alliance and battling capitals all day, then you going to need lots of isk. But if you just want to shoot up frigs then you dont need much, just enough to replace your losses. For me, I hate eve pve. I dont rat unless I am extremely bored, I dont mission, and I rarely mine (unless I am spying on an ice belt for shenanigans). In fact, I would rather sit on a gate for hours waiting for something to happen then grind rats or rocks. Despite the fact that I dont pve much, I still have plenty of isk. More then enough to replace my ships if it came to that. I generally live off of the kills that we make. Now if you dont lose lots of ships, your kills are likely to sustain you. Ofc if you start derping BLOPS and capitals all over the place then you may have an isk problem. And PVP can make you space rich. Kill a fat blinged ship or a hauler filled with goodies and your set at least for a little while.
well ive never really made isk while being a pirate which was directly related to my activities, most alliances will take loot to cover srp for major fleet ops so your not going to get anything from pvp unless its solo or the alliance doesnt do srp.
in reality the big blinged ships are either freighters or other fleet ships (which again usually goes towards srp for most alliances) or the lucky noob venturing into lowsec with his officer visa fit battleship.
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Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2015.06.22 17:23:51 -
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em.. im a pirate. ive personally mad over 18bil in the last 5 months. And helped my corp earn well over 25bil on top of that. I cant say how other than not with pve.
that being said, it is as it was in history, a lifestyle, not a career as mentioned above.
Isk made is secondary. You just need enuff to replace what you loose. Most pirates have exploration or manufacturing alts, and or do those things with their main.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyjBwWcFGe0 a very good but little dated vid on the matter.
But I have to be honest. The things that make you go -10 are rarely isk efficient. Ive only managed to scrap together maybe 100mil in ransoms my entire pirate career. |
Eldwinn
Collapsed Out Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.06.23 00:32:19 -
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Amarkir Krindrik wrote:I've just started playing EVE for the first time (I tried it once a few years back but had no idea what I was doing) and want to get into Piracy as a career. I'll be upgrading my trial account to a full account in the next few weeks once I build a new computer. I have been in the game for only 5-6 hours so far, and have been grinding rats to make money while I train up some skills (it makes me more ISK than mining and gets me some limited combat experience).
I was wondering if anyone had advice on joining a pirate corp, preferably one that welcomes new players.
Thanks!
I assume you are talking about ransoming, when it comes to income? Income from ransoming is not very profitable anymore. You need to have multiple sources of income to be honest. Doing faction warfare missions, level 4/ 5 missions, scamming, ganking and etc. To be honest try as much as you can. Give something a try for a like a week or so and see if this is for you.
There are multiple low security alliances / corporations that do PVP. However if you do not want to fall below the negative security marker, try for EVE UNI. If you do not care about your security status go for WAFFLES.
WAFFLES: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180673 EVE UNI: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Applying_to_EVE_University
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Amarkir Krindrik
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.23 18:08:16 -
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I know I probably won't make tons of money from piracy but that's fine, I'm more in it for the lifestyle than to get rich.
I was playing some more yesterday and dueling people in high-sec to get a feeling for PvP. I asked this one guy to duel and he absolutely annihilated me and I was barely able to get away. We talked for a bit after that and he recommended EvEMon, and after checking it out I'll definitely be using it.
Now I have another question though; can anyone recommend a PvP training plan for me? I'm Minmatar if that makes any difference. |
Bellatrix Invicta
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2015.06.23 18:17:44 -
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Amarkir Krindrik wrote:I know I probably won't make tons of money from piracy but that's fine, I'm more in it for the lifestyle than to get rich.
I was playing some more yesterday and dueling people in high-sec to get a feeling for PvP. I asked this one guy to duel and he absolutely annihilated me and I was barely able to get away. We talked for a bit after that and he recommended EvEMon, and after checking it out I'll definitely be using it.
Now I have another question though; can anyone recommend a PvP training plan for me? I'm Minmatar if that makes any difference.
If you suicide gank 2 Ventures in highsec and send me the killmails in game, I'll do everything in my power to help you. Of course, I'll help out anyway but Venture KMs make me smile.
I'll be on later tonight if you want to duel in relative safety.
If you think you've won, think again.
The CODE always wins.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Triumvirate.
834
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Posted - 2015.06.23 18:27:49 -
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Amarkir Krindrik wrote:I know I probably won't make tons of money from piracy but that's fine, I'm more in it for the lifestyle than to get rich.
I was playing some more yesterday and dueling people in high-sec to get a feeling for PvP. I asked this one guy to duel and he absolutely annihilated me and I was barely able to get away. We talked for a bit after that and he recommended EvEMon, and after checking it out I'll definitely be using it.
Now I have another question though; can anyone recommend a PvP training plan for me? I'm Minmatar if that makes any difference.
might want to go for jaguars (assault frigates) with small projectiles and some shield tanking, quite a good ship for minmatar
but stick around in t1 frigates as they are cheap and good for learning so t2 guns on t1 rifter should be a good combo
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.23 19:50:30 -
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Piracy has many facets, some of them are profitable, like stealing stuff/loot and ganking ships with expensive fits/cargo, like explorers or mission runners. If you fight in lowsec you can kill clone soldiers to keep your sec status up with tags. But in general PvP is an ISK sink and you need some companion activity for the cash flow.
I'm curious, are there any pirate corps with an SRP program?
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
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Posted - 2015.06.24 15:57:55 -
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Lan Wang wrote:piracy isnt really a career as such, you probably wont make any money from piracy itself unless your ganking freighters, most pirates have alts to do money making things (faction warfare missions etc), also dont get too attached to highsec, being a pirate will mean dropping to -10.0 eventually and you wont be able to do much in highsec.
but as Fal (who i would like to be my slave) said ewar is a good choice to train especially the maulus which is useful in any fleet
You don't actually need an alt in order to do FW as a pirate. Generally the war offices are something like one jump in from low-sec, you can hop in, warp directly to station, and warp directly out again without any real issue even with -10 sec status.
Plus, if you're not pirate-ing hard enough to tank your sec status, being in FW makes a lot of targets in high-sec completely legal that may not actually realize there are any enemies in-system with them. And it's not like the empire navies can be any _more_ after you if your sec status _is_ tanked, so you can always dive in like a madman and escape before the fuzz show up, and it's not bannable like avoiding CONCORD.
Basically there's no reason NOT to pick an FW side if you're rolling pirate anyhow. |
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Syrilian
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.24 16:14:59 -
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Lost Greybeard wrote:Lan Wang wrote:piracy isnt really a career as such, you probably wont make any money from piracy itself unless your ganking freighters, most pirates have alts to do money making things (faction warfare missions etc), also dont get too attached to highsec, being a pirate will mean dropping to -10.0 eventually and you wont be able to do much in highsec.
but as Fal (who i would like to be my slave) said ewar is a good choice to train especially the maulus which is useful in any fleet You don't actually need an alt in order to do FW as a pirate. Generally the war offices are something like one jump in from low-sec, you can hop in, warp directly to station, and warp directly out again without any real issue even with -10 sec status. Plus, if you're not pirate-ing hard enough to tank your sec status, being in FW makes a lot of targets in high-sec completely legal that may not actually realize there are any enemies in-system with them. And it's not like the empire navies can be any _more_ after you if your sec status _is_ tanked, so you can always dive in like a madman and escape before the fuzz show up, and it's not bannable like avoiding CONCORD. Basically there's no reason NOT to pick an FW side if you're rolling pirate anyhow.
This. Really FW is legal piracy. You realize that the first time you jump through a gate camp with a bunch of red flashies that the only difference between a gate camp of war targets and a gate camp of neutral pirates is that the ships are flashing red and the other doesnt. That's about it.
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Cyrus Sarn
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.24 17:35:09 -
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Vania Naari wrote:I'd like to roam in a small gang shooting stuff for fun, money is secondary. This used to be viable once, though I'm not sure this playstyle exists anymore. After being away for over 10 years I wouldn't even know where to start looking.
Join Amarr side faction war. They're always chasing around the abundance of Minmatar FW farmers and plexing fleets, are highly active and organized, you'll be able to learn to operate in low sec (and get to know whose who among pirate corps), gets lot of opportunity at PvP, and you won't trash your security standing and be banned from Hi Sec so early in your career....access to trade hubs is real nice when needed to restock ammo etc.
Also, you can make some money in FW, but most money is made on the Minmatar side currently, which explains the abundance of targets to shoot. But unlike pirates, your targets will be more able to fight back |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Triumvirate.
837
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Posted - 2015.06.24 18:04:56 -
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Syrilian wrote:Lost Greybeard wrote:Lan Wang wrote:piracy isnt really a career as such, you probably wont make any money from piracy itself unless your ganking freighters, most pirates have alts to do money making things (faction warfare missions etc), also dont get too attached to highsec, being a pirate will mean dropping to -10.0 eventually and you wont be able to do much in highsec.
but as Fal (who i would like to be my slave) said ewar is a good choice to train especially the maulus which is useful in any fleet You don't actually need an alt in order to do FW as a pirate. Generally the war offices are something like one jump in from low-sec, you can hop in, warp directly to station, and warp directly out again without any real issue even with -10 sec status. Plus, if you're not pirate-ing hard enough to tank your sec status, being in FW makes a lot of targets in high-sec completely legal that may not actually realize there are any enemies in-system with them. And it's not like the empire navies can be any _more_ after you if your sec status _is_ tanked, so you can always dive in like a madman and escape before the fuzz show up, and it's not bannable like avoiding CONCORD. Basically there's no reason NOT to pick an FW side if you're rolling pirate anyhow. This. Really FW is legal piracy. You realize that the first time you jump through a gate camp with a bunch of red flashies that the only difference between a gate camp of war targets and a gate camp of neutral pirates is that the ships are flashing red and the other doesnt. That's about it.
Well either way works, i prefer to be on nobodies side when being a pirate
Cyrus are you saying pirates dont fight back? What does that even mean? Lol
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Syrilian
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.24 18:33:56 -
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Cyrus Sarn wrote:
Join Amarr side faction war. They're always chasing around the abundance of Minmatar FW farmers and plexing fleets, are highly active and organized
Their shrinking territory says otherwise.
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Amarkir Krindrik
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.06.25 02:52:05 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Cyrus are you saying pirates dont fight back? What does that even mean? Lol
I think Cyrus means that pirates' targets don't fight back (compared to targets in FW) not pirates themselves :) |
Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
102
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Posted - 2015.06.25 04:50:43 -
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Think he means your fw targets can engage you anywhere. Pirates who are not part of fw have to fight off gate, station and highsec. Of course there are exemptions |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Triumvirate.
837
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Posted - 2015.06.25 08:56:58 -
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Darth Terona wrote:Think he means your fw targets can engage you anywhere. Pirates who are not part of fw have to fight off gate, station and highsec. Of course there are exemptions
yeah i get that, being a fw pirate means you are restricted to the opposing faction as targets though, i prefer to be able to engage anyone i want in lowsec without having to worry about murdering my own faction.
been a while since i was in fw but are you saying you dont take gateguns when attacking fw targets?
ps cool jacket
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.25 11:17:38 -
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Lan Wang wrote:[quote=Darth Terona] been a while since i was in fw but are you saying you dont take gateguns when attacking fw targets?
You generally don't take gateguns when attacking a legal target. If you are enlisted in FW the opposing faction's ships are legal war targets. As a neutral you have to deal with guns unless the target is flashy or perma-red.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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