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Kagashi
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Posted - 2006.11.25 11:29:00 -
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Is this posable with then new invention system?
So far i have heard 7 different things from 7 different people regarding how to invent a Hulk
Answers ranging from
Quote: No Hulk invention at all
which i find hard to believe when it seems you can invent all other types of T2 ship
all the way to
Quote: Yes you can invent them and ive done it
which i also find hard to believe because i dont think Sisi with revelations had been up long enough to actualy train up and complete the act.. though i may be wrong.
Please any info would very helpfull
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Kagashi
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Posted - 2006.11.25 15:53:00 -
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I also figured it was a Gallente ship invention job but im guessing no one knows for sure.
Im also figureing it would take about the same amount of data cores etc as a Command ship to complete the job.
I wish i could get onto Sisi to check it out but saddly i cant.
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Kagashi
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Posted - 2006.11.26 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sarf
Originally by: Kagashi
which i also find hard to believe because i dont think Sisi with revelations had been up long enough to actually train up and complete the act.. though i may be wrong.
You forget that all skills train 10x faster on sisi than on TQ. so a 10d skill is 1 day training time.
I didnt know it was so much faster .. haveing been unable to use Sisi myself all i can go by is what people tell me
so It would seem that if it was indeed posable to invent a Barge then someone would have had time to train the skils up to actualy do it.
This still leaves me with the question of weather its posable or not to do.
Originally by: Cain T2 mining barges cant be invented, all T1 ships and modules have a invention tab on the BP(O/C) but the T1 barges dont have that tab so no u cant invent.
Cain here seems to have a firm view and evidence to back it up.
Was there ever a CCP post on if ALL t2 ships were going to be inventable or not? I just seems that Barges may proove to be the golden ticket to isk making well into Kali if its true that you cant invent them. Im not going to complain about the price of T2 barges as that a well beaten horse. BUT It makes them the only ships that wont be effected by invention and the much needed market balanceing that invention will hopefull bring.
Is this intended?
Anyone else have a View on the invention of barges or the lack there of
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Kagashi
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Posted - 2006.11.26 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral Every bpo that can be used in the invention process has an "invention" tab that lists skills and materials required to invent it.
Barges have no such tab.
But are Barges the only ship type that cant be invented?
And if so .. why only barges? Is there a plan to make these Barges inventable? Why do combat players get all the new toys while us miners get left behind? (yes im awear that the Rohk is a sweet mining battleship lol)
Are they worried that an explosion of T2 barges will flood the market with minerals? Surely if that was the case then they could just make them stupidly hard to invent like Command ships There are a few questions id love tux to answer but this is up near the top of my list.
Im just getting sick of my covetor i guess and would love to mine lowsec with just a fraction more tankability.
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Kagashi
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Posted - 2006.11.26 14:31:00 -
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I must admit the only answers to "Why" questions i take with much seriousness are answers that come from CCP.
Though it can be interesting to discuss it, realy only they know for sure "why" anying in eve.
But also if we dont ask then no Dev is gona give us an answer as to why.
Yeah there is alot of Chicken littling and chest beating over the patch but hey.. im a miner.... i take things as they come and leave the crying to the Pirates and their prey ..
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Kagashi
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Posted - 2006.11.27 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Cain Calzon also inventing transport ships isnt possible either, no invention tabs on T1 industrials.
speaking of inventions on BSs, theres also an invention tab on frigates such as bantam, griffin, tormentor, etc. there arent any T2 version of these. since bantam and tormentor are mining frigs and griffin is a frig EW platform.
As much as i realy would love a T2 banatm (no realy) I do find it odd that non combat ships such as trasport ships and Barges are excluded from Invention. Unlike Barges i cant see any reason wht transport ships SHOULD be excluded from invention.. i mean all they do is transport stuff. Barges i can kind of understand if CCP is worried about flooding the mineral/ice market.
Strangely enough i dont believe that invention of Hulks will effect the price of them at all.. not one bit.. .. they are fairly tough to make (so im told) and if invention is ever planed to be put in for them then it will most likely be compareable to command ship invention... months and months of RP
I comment from CCP is well warrented
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Kagashi
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Posted - 2006.11.29 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral It's so odd how everyone keeps saying "Me Me Me Me" at a time when the last thing we need is for anyone to distract these guys from what they are about to do.
Somethings are simply not going to be changed at the last minute. This is one of them. (I just thought I'd add that too.) [/justify]
I personaly didnt expect an instant reaction or a fix this side of kali 3 It just seemed strange to me that some t2 ships were uninventable so i thought id ask the question.
far be it from me to tell anyone at CCP what their prioitys should be and with the patch so close id be shocked if they did change anything to do with anything unless it was truely game breaking.
But seeing as now the Patch is up and TQ seems happy maybe we could talk alittle more about my new Hulk fleet you are all gagging to invent for me ^_^
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