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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:04:59 -
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Pilots;
Let me first state that I wish I had no reason to publicize the events of this last day. My foremost desire is to expand our base of knowledge about the cluster, about novel technologies, and about emergent threats. To that end, cooperation with CONCORD remains necessary. To that end, the expeditionary group composed of pilots from CAIN, FCORD, IKAME, JLAB, SFRIM, alongside independent explorers, has endeavored to release all information as we discover it or we analyze it.
Despite this, Odo Korachi of the DED has seen fit to issue a heavy-handed ultimatum. It remains my desire to achieve a mutually agreeable resolution, and to continue to cooperate with CONCORD despite the apparent intransigence of one of its brigadier generals. I can only hope that cooler heads within CONCORD will prevail, and that this most august organization knows that incentive is as necessary as disincentive when dealing with pilots as independent-minded as Capsuleers.
The full text of Odo KorachiGÇÖs message follows.
FINAL DEMAND GÇô REF: ABRIDGED REPORT 099-345697234-099, Odo Korachi wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen, The Directive Enforcement Department would like to offer thanks for your work on the report provided to the Inner Circle Re: the late Dr. Hilen Tukoss, and for the analysis of the tissue samples that were recovered from wreckage found in J174618. After a meeting with the Inner Circle this morning, and after public request for all tissue samples to be turned over to the Directive Enforcement Department for analysis and formal legal confirmation of identity on June 8th, concerns have been raised regarding the intentions of your group. With this in mind, and with the comments of pilot Lucas Raholan factored into the situation the Directive Enforcement Department is hereby making a formal final demand for the handover of all biomass samples to the DED for analysis and biometric processing. Pilot Raholan is hereby being informed of a 24 hour grace period, beginning at the timestamp of this message, during which the samples can be handed over to myself via 14 day contract. Mail confirmation of this contract must be provided once it is set up. Failure to hand over the samples within 24 hours will result in all recipients of this mail being elevated to outlaw status on all DED records. This will include standings toward the CONCORD Assembly and the following corporations reverted to -10.0 status: CONCORD [CONCO] DED [DED] Secure Commerce Commission [SCC] Inner Circle [ICR] In addition to this, the Inner Circle may see fit to rule in favor of a Directive Enforcement Department warrant to seize equipment pertaining to the ongoing investigation into the death of Dr. Tukoss by force, under Article 5, Section C of the Yulai Convention, which would then not be limited purely to the biomass in question. The Directive Enforcement Department requests correspondence from Pilot Raholan within 24 hours to arrange handover of all biomass relating to the investigation. Failure to correspond will be regarded as non-compliance with this demand, and will result in the enactment of aforementioned legal action. If there are any further questions, feel free to correspond with me directly as your point of contact with the Directive Enforcement Department. Best regards, Odo Korachi Brigadier General, Genesis Fleet Directive Enforcement Department CONCORD Assembly
Again, let me say that I firmly desire to cooperate with CONCORD, and to continue to serve the State and humanity to the best of my abilities. However, despite KorachiGÇÖs threats, we have no ability to deliver the sample he demands, and we would have no intent to when issued imperious threats by the very same officer whose intransigence instigated the Battle of Caldari Prime, the fall of the Shiigeru, and the many deaths that followed.
I can only assume that KorachiGÇÖs insistence that we only communicate with him is in part because he is overstepping his mandate; I can only assume that other commanders within CONCORD are more diplomatic, are better able to interface with the independent Capsuleers that form this clusterGÇÖs best defense against the Nation and other threats, are more understanding of the free-spiritedness and pride of many of the most powerful individuals in existence.
To that end, I call upon pilots to petition their statesGÇÖ representatives on our behalf, and to petition CONCORD representatives for a better, more fruitful resolution that preserves the pride, power, and prestige of both CONCORD and the independent capsuleers that enforce its will.
It remains my hope that Korachi has overstepped his bounds, and that by shining a light on his intransigence those within CONCORD who are better able to serve the needs of CONCORD and the cluster may rise to serve in his stead.
Yours in service, Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries, Ltd.
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Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:15:54 -
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I am disturbed by these communiques. CONCORD and its various arms are not exactly known for the free release of information, and I sadly suspect that if the samples were turned over, we would never hear of them again. This is precisely the opposite of everything Dr. Tukoss stood for with Arek'Jaalan. Although meager, Project Compass Holdings and its various resources are available for any assistance we can provide.
Author, EVE Travel
Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
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Will Gauss
TerminalDogma New Eden Research Coalition
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:20:30 -
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CONCORD, through actions like this and the imprisonment of press who did little more than report the news truthfully has delegitimized itself and no longer represents the capsuleer community, and as such, holds no rightful authority over the capsuleer community.
Once created to serve the law, CONCORD today is little more than just another pirate faction using force to enforce its will and should only be regarded as such: shot at and removed from endangering others like any other pirate entities found on one's overview. |
darkezero
Special Unit 17
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:24:40 -
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I'm paraphrasing, but I find it kinda funny that Lucas is the only one who can hand over the brain bit, but CONCORD is going to punish the entire group who was there.
I also second Mark's sentiment that if the brain bit was turned over, we'd never hear about it again.
CONCORD has been very silent regarding both the Drifters, and the now de-cloaked Jove Observatories, but they demand you turn over something that is related to the Drifters.
CONCORD shows more worry about this brain bit than the abductions and interdictions currently ongoing from Sansha's Nation.
Phooey, I say.
I stand ready to support all capsuleers CONCORD intends to mark -10. |
Will Gauss
TerminalDogma New Eden Research Coalition
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:27:22 -
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New Eden Research Coalition is prepared to offer sanctuary in Stain to any affected and persecuted pilot who wishes to live outside the influence of the pirate faction known as "CONCORD". |
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
1131
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:31:18 -
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Maybe you should just get him to hand over the brains.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:32:32 -
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With due respect, pilots, my aim is not to flee into the dark. My hope is that if enough prominent and powerful capsuleers petition their states and Korachi's superiors at DED and the Inner Circle, we may see a more reasonable discussion of what will follow.
Still, whatever follows, I thank you for your support.
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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
1131
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:38:43 -
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While it may not be your desire to flee into the dark, if you cannot convince Lucas Raholan to hand over the brains, I'd suggest quickly moving your supplies outside of CONCORD patrolled space.
Even if a group of capsuleers lobbies for you, bureaucratic functions tend to take more than 24 hours.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:44:10 -
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Will Gauss wrote:CONCORD, through actions like this and the imprisonment of press who did little more than report the news truthfully has delegitimized itself and no longer represents the capsuleer community, and as such, holds no rightful authority over the capsuleer community.
Once created to serve the law, CONCORD today is little more than just another pirate faction using force to enforce its will and should only be regarded as such: shot at and removed from endangering others like any other pirate entities found on one's overview.
EDIT: To clarify, I do not intend to suggest that one rebels against the laws which bind New Eden society. CONCORD however, does not appear interested in these laws, and as such is a pirate entity in flagrant disregard of them. Absent an enforcement body, enforcement is up to us. Are you suggesting we make war on the DED? Over this minor of an incident?
Capsuleers are not ourselves an organization. We do not all have the best intention of humanity in mind. The DED is not solely around to police us. Without the DED and Concord to negotiate peace, the Empires would have gone to war numerous times.
But yes, let's just tear it all down cause they're getting a little heavy handed on this minor issue. |
Gorion Wassenar
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:44:46 -
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So even after the public release of your findings CONCORD is threatening to take the samples by force? What are you hiding CONCORD?
Rote Kapelle - NOW IN SLIGHTLY MORE LAW ABIDING FLAVOR!
"DRINK STARSI!" -¬-«GäóOwnership Group Chairman
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Claudia Osyn
Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.06.26 02:58:04 -
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Looks like CONCORD is picking a fight, if all the associated branches agreed to adjust Sec Status in that manner.... Given the situation, I actually stand with my fellow Capsuleers in this matter. Should the call come in, you have my axe.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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Enso Nibbana
Brahman
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Posted - 2015.06.26 03:28:50 -
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If he has a portion of the late Dr.'s brain.
They may want it to re-clone him? |
Stef Darklighter
Scrum Squad Empyreus
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Posted - 2015.06.26 03:29:42 -
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This is a truly disturbing turn of events, and is a reminder of why I chose to migrate into null security space.
Makoto Priano, my offer of sanctuary and supporting firepower remains open to both yourself and all pilots flying under the flag of Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries.
I expect that it may soon come time to make an example of Yulai and raze it to a cinder. |
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1922
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Posted - 2015.06.26 04:40:26 -
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Keihaat kotautkko! |
Lord Kailethre
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2015.06.26 05:26:55 -
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Scherezad wrote:Keihaat kotautkko! C-can I get a translation, please? |
Frenjo Borkstar
Borkstar Laboratories
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Posted - 2015.06.26 05:32:53 -
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This is not only despicable, but disgusting! Disgusting that one of the organisations that "makes our society what it is" is having to threaten SCIENTISTS, in order to get what they want.
This cannot be allowed. And honestly, they must not get that body.
Dr. Frenjo Borkstar,
Project Lead for Arek'Jaalan's Project Salus.
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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 05:44:14 -
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CONCORD again demonstrates they have no interest in the peace and protection of the cluster. They would much rather overstep the bounds of their mandate to abuse their authority to their own ends.
This is all about power, CONCORD wants to have all the power, so they use what power they have to take other's power. Given their actions as of late, they are certainly hiding something regarding the Drifters and the fate of Hilen Tukoss. They can't risk capsuleers retaining ownership of any potential clues since it might enable us to find out some of the information they are concealing, and that would shift the balance of power away from them.
It also, certainly gets stuck in CONCORD's craw that capsuleers have been doing what we can to research and counter the drifter threat while CONCORD does nothing to prepare in case of the worst. If their inaction is due to some information we don't possess about the potential threat, then they have only themselves to blame for not sharing it with us. We have seen they have also tried posturing against the Empire for their efforts in shoring up defenses against the Drifters.
Given their actions, I don't believe CONCORD can be trusted in these matters, and while we should seek a peaceful resolution, we should not bow to threats. I stand ready to defend my comrades from any wrongful aggression from the DED |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
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Posted - 2015.06.26 05:45:40 -
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There is only one reason to request all the biomass samples.
To get legal confirmation that it was Hilen Tukoss, and thus, gain legal authorisation to activate one of his backup clones.
There are more subtle ways of making that request.
And if they don't want to activate one of his backups, and given the behaviour of some of the corporations involved, I would find it surprising if they did want to activate his backup, then there is no reason to request the biomass.
So, this looks like little more than an extortion racket. Threaten punishments, that can only be countered, by doing CONCORD's work for them, by shooting CONCORD's enemies.
Hurr.
Doctor Valerie Valate, archaeologist. Not the other Doctor Valerie Valate.
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Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
980
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Posted - 2015.06.26 06:06:50 -
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and independent analysis was performed to verify that it was indeed a piece of Tukoss, and the people who performed that analysis are among those being threatened.
I don't see why CONCORD would be concerned by verification if it's just for reasons of clone activation as the people responsible for that would likely be his corporation rather than CONCORD.
Something else is going on here whether it is the concealment of information for nefarious purposes or just CONCORD being greedy and wanting to hold all the chips. If this were all above board, members of CONCORD would not be pushing their weight around. |
Jev North
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
283
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Posted - 2015.06.26 06:20:50 -
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And suddenly I understand what some people were on about.
Well, uh. Outlaw life isn't too bad? Just saying. |
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Rhavas
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2015.06.26 06:24:46 -
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At last, CONCORD puts its true colors out for all to see.
This "One Cluster Government" in which they believe that they know better than the government you have chosen for yourselves. Where then is the right to salvage, if nothing else?
CONCORD has outlived its usefulness. The Jove are gone, and with them what authority and need for existence CONCORD ever had. The idea that CONCORD is anything other than wholly corrupt is laughable, as they manage bribes between sides for everything from their oh so threatening "standings" to looking the other way for paid "war" declarations to carefully orchestrated endless wars between the Empires. All grist for the machine, and fed willingly by the denizens of the Empires.
For those of you left in the Empires, hold to what dignity remains, and throw off the shackles of these sad, corrupt, and devoid of purpose self-appointed rulers that think themselves above your own leaders. Make your voices heard. And if that is not sufficient, join those who have left their confines for wormholes and the empires of the outer regions.
Ms. Priano and Mr. Raholan, while we may disagree on our perceptions of Mr. Tukoss himself, I will personally fund your security status tags to underscore my remarks and display the corruption for all of New Eden to see should it become necessary.
Author of Interstellar Privateer
Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
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Trii Seo
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Posted - 2015.06.26 06:28:56 -
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Wow. Just... wow.
Anyway, I'd say evacuate the samples to a Serpentis station. It's near some people who would love a quiet verbal... who am I kidding, loud and involving explosive results, exchange with CONCORD. After the fiasco of operation Spectre, many people will think twice about executing CONCORD authority in those regions as well.
The king is dead, long live the king!
Glory to Maximilian Singularity the Sixth, First of his Name!
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Jev North
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
283
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Posted - 2015.06.26 06:33:59 -
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Rhavas wrote:The idea that CONCORD is anything other than wholly corrupt is laughable [...] CONCORD has hardly ever acted differently towards capsuleers than it does; this is its machinery working as intended. Keeping uppity capsuleers down and their violence directed towards each other and sanctioned targets is its function, and has been from the beginning. Framing it as some kind of betrayal or corruption from a good-buy cop role that existed only in people's heads is an extremely tired pirate loyalist schtick. |
H1de0
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 07:25:28 -
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(just for clarification I assume this situation targets IKAME as a whole not just the individuals that part-took)
What concerns me the most is the fact that we are being threatened with the security status "stick" for performing and publicizing independent research on a biomass sample that was delivered to us by it's finder and thus rightful owner (Raholan-san) and returned after it's examination ended. We are not outlaws who monetize their findings in secrecy but scientist who's actions in this case where driven not by profit possibilities but public security.
I would understand if the DED, if gen. Korachi is truly acting on their behalf, went after Raholan-san alone. But this.. this is exactly the kind of misplaced law enforcement that fuels any existing conspiracy theories and sparkles new ones.
Decrypting the Sleeper cache..
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Kyoko Sakoda
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
235
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Posted - 2015.06.26 07:44:04 -
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Jev North wrote:And suddenly I understand what some people were on about.
Well, uh. Outlaw life isn't too bad? Just saying.
Out-of-whose-law?
I mean that rhetorically. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1680
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Posted - 2015.06.26 08:45:40 -
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Why not simply turn over the biomass?
"Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away."
-- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
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Lord Kailethre
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
103
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Posted - 2015.06.26 08:55:47 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Why not simply turn over the biomass?
I believe that Lord Raholan has misgivings about CONCORD's intent, especially given their recent actions in regards to Drifter related incidents and information. And it's completely understandable, especially since they're now threatening him because of it.
It's all quite fishy. |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
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Posted - 2015.06.26 09:04:15 -
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Two things spring to mind here immediately.
Firstly this sample was collected from a salvage mission *outside* of Empire space and CONCORD control sphere. This surely means that any and all materials discovered fall under the laws of astro-maritime salvage.
Secondly CONCORD would not need all samples to clarify that these were indeed the remains of Hilen Tukoss. one would be sufficient to verify the genetic identity if this were to legally force the activation of a med-clone.
The actions of this officer are heavy handed to say the least and must fall outside of his remit. Are CONCORD a group formed for the protection of the Empires or to control them by force?
I call upon all of my contacts and agents within the 4 Empires to petition against this action. We capsuleers perform numerous duties for those representatives and I personally have excellent standings with many of them. CONCORD is acting arbitrarily and assuming that they can command independent residents of the Empires to do as they are bid. CONCORD is there to keep the peace between the Empires, not enforce laws within them. |
Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune
196
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Posted - 2015.06.26 09:16:27 -
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We would suggest compliance.
We Return.
Unit XS365BT.
Designated Communications Officer.
Unit Commune.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1680
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Posted - 2015.06.26 09:17:51 -
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Lord Kailethre wrote:Samira Kernher wrote:Why not simply turn over the biomass? I believe that Lord Raholan has misgivings about CONCORD's intent, especially given their recent actions in regards to Drifter related incidents and information. And it's completely understandable, especially since they're now threatening him because of it. It's all quite fishy.
Threatening to confiscate evidence needed for an ongoing investigation is not an uncommon procedure for law enforcement, and it is normal for a refusal to cooperate to be met with judicial punishment.
I don't like that CONCORD has authority in matters like this, instead of local law enforcement, but they do. It is not appropriate to withhold evidence from them.
"Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away."
-- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
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