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Siegfried Cohenberg
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2015.07.06 04:10:16 -
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Pontryvel Crendraven wrote: Are those yearly interest rates or monthly or what?
its 7.5% interest per month |
Pontryvel Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.07.06 14:38:57 -
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Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:Pontryvel Crendraven wrote: Are those yearly interest rates or monthly or what?
its 7.5% interest per month Synchronized pay schedule?
I don't mean to rip you off but 7.5 per month without compound interest at any rates or schedules equal to = 90% yearly.
Which is 30% over 60% (7.5% x 12 months per year) even if it is lower than compound interest which are normally not negative...
Too good to be true, unless I am made to be lying? |
JOEMAMA69
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.06 14:55:03 -
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Why is the coupon rate listed as a monthly rate, why do you not specify compounding periods? I assume you're saying they are compounded monthly. This should be called a loan not a bond, especially since there's no secondary market to trade these bonds thus the coupon = yield at all times. The effective interest rate is not clear.
How is someone supposed to invest if you have no idea what you are doing? Can I cash out my coupons monthly but keep the principle invested? |
Malcolm LaGrange
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.07.06 15:42:11 -
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>steals 250b worth of ganking ships >is begging for isk for ganking ships |
4chan SlashPOL
Implying Jita Prices
1
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Posted - 2015.07.06 16:54:50 -
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Is there a way to make sure that we are not being scammed? It's not like you have a good track record. Could you get some kind of 3rd party or collateral? |
okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
102
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Posted - 2015.07.06 18:40:57 -
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This loan request is all Greek to me. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Create Alliance
611
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Posted - 2015.07.06 18:42:38 -
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It looks more like Jitanese.
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Globby
The Conference Elite CODE.
58
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Posted - 2015.07.06 22:11:28 -
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You buy thing. 1 month passes by. You get what you paid for thing back, including 7.5% of what you put in.
These are limited, this might not happen every month, it depends on if we have money.
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okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
102
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Posted - 2015.07.06 22:46:18 -
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Globby wrote:You buy thing. 1 month passes by. You get what you paid for thing back, including 7.5% of what you put in.
These are limited, this might not happen every month, it depends on if we have money.
"Sorry brah plex went up. Come back in few months ok?" rofl.
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Grm Makentor
Low Drag.
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Posted - 2015.07.07 04:53:56 -
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Hello I would be interesting in investing in a fine organization such as The Conference Elite. As it stands i would be able invest a sum of Four Million Interstellar Kredits. I am of the understanding that this sum may be used to purchase a fine Catalyst Destroyer class vessel fitted with the latest in Anode Neutron blaster technology. What sort of return could i expect on this investment? Allow me to counter offer your initial 7.5% monthly dividend offer. I feel i am entitled to a 100% loot dividend (that is to say, you would double my isk) based on the substantial amount of capital risk i am assuming with this arrangement. Please contact me ingame as soon as possible so we can formalize our arrangement. Best Regards |
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Siegfried Cohenberg
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
91
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Posted - 2015.07.07 06:22:04 -
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JOEMAMA69 wrote: How is someone supposed to invest if you have no idea what you are doing? Can I cash out my coupons monthly but keep the principle invested?
Why would you not be able to keep your investment rolling over every month
Pontryvel Crendraven wrote: Synchronized pay schedule?
I don't mean to rip you off but 7.5 per month without compound interest at any rates or schedules equal to = 90% yearly.
Which is 30% over 60% (7.5% x 12 months per year) even if it is lower than compound interest which are normally not negative...
Too good to be true, unless I am made to be lying?
Let me remind you that a year is a very long time, and that freighter ganking is VERY profitable. Your average gank will cost about 150m and your average freighter will have cargo worth about a billion isk. The code alliance can keep up with 7.5% interest per month. |
Shlomo Sitzstein Goldberg
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.07.09 22:13:06 -
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I have no money available for bonds right now but I might next month. If this round of bonds ends successfully and I have some funds available I might invest in the next round (if there is one). |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
3052
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Posted - 2015.07.11 05:53:00 -
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Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:okoolos rimmer wrote:"As I said before, CODE. has never broken a diplomatic player to player agreement or deal. They have never defaulted or went back against an official loan through a treasurer or loyalanon himself. This is for an official loan for CODE."
Is there any record of such loans? Can we get some "references" so to speak. Any of your lenders willing to verify that you have paid the loans fully and on time? As a financial backer for the code alliance fleets, I can tell you that out of all the times that I've lent loyalanon money for ships there has not been one instance where he did not pay me back with loot dropped by the industrials code cracks open Here is one such example. That is simply just one page of many from my wallet after selling loot I received after lending money to code.
You are a CODE. alt. Your "testimonial" is worthless.
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Siegfried Cohenberg
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
92
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Posted - 2015.07.11 08:52:52 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:
You are a CODE. alt. Your "testimonial" is worthless.
I still finance code fleets. I wouldn't invest in my fellow gankers if I didn't expect something in return. And I always get my investment back. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
3052
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Posted - 2015.07.11 22:52:20 -
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Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:
You are a CODE. alt. Your "testimonial" is worthless.
I still finance code fleets. I wouldn't invest in my fellow gankers if I didn't expect something in return. And I always get my investment back.
You also have vested interest if it is a legitimate offer or a scam. So again, your "testimonial" is worth, literally, a pile of ****.
Look, when people want other people's money they do "due diligence" here what do we have:
1. A known corp thief. 2. Alt(s) posing as non-alts saying what a great investment it is...i.e. you are ****ing lying (and now you've admitted it). 3. A bullshit answer that the head of this big group of gankers is going to answer dozens of eve mails when a quick forum post would suffice.
You have failed in every respect of due diligence.
API or GTFO and STFU up.
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okoolos rimmer
Napkin Nation
108
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Posted - 2015.07.12 04:13:09 -
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Can we just let this thread die? This isn't going anywhere and everyone involved knows this. |
Globby
The Conference Elite CODE.
60
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Posted - 2015.07.12 09:40:27 -
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okoolos rimmer wrote:Can we just let this thread die? This isn't going anywhere and everyone involved knows this.
have you seen the bonds page? i've made a ton of money off of the ships purchased from the current bonds. I've used 8 bil of the first set of 10 i received and made 28 billion off of it. |
Siegfried Cohenberg
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
92
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Posted - 2015.07.12 09:45:46 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:[
1. A known corp thief. 2. Alt(s) posing as non-alts saying what a great investment it is...i.e. you are ****ing lying (and now you've admitted it). 3. A bullshit answer that the head of this big group of gankers is going to answer dozens of eve mails when a quick forum post would suffice.
1. Globby is a good boy he dindu nuffin 2. Siegfried is my main 3. The head of the big broup of gankers is literally unable to post on the forums. |
Globby
The Conference Elite CODE.
60
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Posted - 2015.07.12 10:36:37 -
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Teckos Pech wrote: 3. A bullshit answer that the head of this big group of gankers is going to answer dozens of eve mails when a quick forum post would suffice.
i already touched on this, he can't post on the forums. i wish you guys would read the thread before shitposting |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Create Alliance
618
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Posted - 2015.07.12 10:41:12 -
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Globby wrote:okoolos rimmer wrote:Can we just let this thread die? This isn't going anywhere and everyone involved knows this. have you seen the bonds page? i've made a ton of money off of the ships purchased from the current bonds. I've used 8 bil of the first set of 10 i received and made 28 billion off of it.
Sounds like you'll never need to ask for money again then. Makes you wonder why any was needed in the first place if ganking is so profitable.
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Rosal Milag
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2015.07.12 21:02:19 -
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Considering that CODE. has 14 active wars and 462 finished as of this posting, its not hard to see where the money ends up. Not to mention that it is highly likely some of the proceeds may be used for PLEXing accounts.
The biggest question I have is regarding the concept of investment. Popular opinion sees the hauling/mining permit as a scam or blackmail. "Pay us and we won't shoot you." Paying at gunpoint leaves a sour taste in many people's mouth, mine included. If there was a guarantee of a permit for the duration of the bond, I would happily invest. The point being that you don't shoot your investors if you want continued business. |
Globby
The Conference Elite CODE.
60
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Posted - 2015.07.13 22:47:54 -
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Currently there are no bonds available, all have been sold out. The next set of 100 bonds are set to open on July 17th, 2015. I'd like to thank the following investors: Lenny Kravitz2 (37) Lea Stormkin (5) Siegfried Cohenberg (4) Casterly Kansene (4). Thank you, and you wont be disappointed. |
Cista2
Phoibe Enterprises
122
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Posted - 2015.07.14 06:29:33 -
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There are no bonds available, but in 3 days twice as many bonds will be available hahaha - good luck to any buyers.
My channel: "Signatures"
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Recommended: "The Biomass Bar" (for corpse selling)
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Globby
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE.
68
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:20:06 -
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Official buy in starts now. Continue purchasing through me.
Last night me and loyalanon moved over 1700 catalysts to uedama, ready for killing. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I
1050
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:26:27 -
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well what you need isk for ships for then if you just moved 1700 of them :/
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Globby
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE.
68
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:29:12 -
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Lan Wang wrote:well what you need isk for ships for then if you just moved 1700 of them :/
More ships? We want to store them in other places, such as Palas, Madirmilire, Kamio, Osmon and Amarr. (and other opsec places)
Once we get a cache in each location upkeep and replenishment is easy. Doing it 50 catalysts at a time is soul crushing and slow, and if we get the investment right away it would be much more profitable right away and be a lot easier to do for us. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I
1061
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:30:09 -
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Max Fubarticus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.07.17 00:05:43 -
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Rosal Milag wrote:Considering that CODE. has 14 active wars and 462 finished as of this posting, its not hard to see where the money ends up. Not to mention that it is highly likely some of the proceeds may be used for PLEXing accounts.
The biggest question I have is regarding the concept of investment. Popular opinion sees the hauling/mining permit as a scam or blackmail. "Pay us and we won't shoot you." Paying at gunpoint leaves a sour taste in many people's mouth, mine included. If there was a guarantee of a permit for the duration of the bond, I would happily invest. The point being that you don't shoot your investors if you want continued business.
LOL, I see that the "Honorable" Globby was at a loss for words on this post!
No collateralization = bad bond / poor investment. Your hubris is almost as amazing as the alliance leaders honesty.
Wishing you well |
Globby
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE.
102
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Posted - 2015.07.22 17:55:35 -
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There is no hubris here, I've stated the facts and all the bonds for July have been bought out. Obviously some people think we're quite trustworthy.
Just a reminder, there are bonds setup for the month of August right now, buy in quickly before they run out and contact Lenny Kravitz2 in game for a vouch. He's a brave guy with literal trillions, he'll vouch for me. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Create Alliance
627
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Posted - 2015.07.22 18:26:05 -
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A literal trillionaire vouching for you but not filling a few billion worth of high interest bonds is a red flag, not a shining recommendation.
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