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Sahriah BloodStone
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
126
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Posted - 2015.06.28 06:36:22 -
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Cyrano Creed wrote:Sahriah BloodStone wrote:Kahar Dex wrote:
Admiral Ren Karetta was fired upon, and he gave the Order for All Loyalists to Engage.
PIE engaged first, and in the midst of hostilities, there were blinding flashes of light.
Rytha Main saw that the drifter battleships were immediately weakened, and proceeded to destroy a drifter battleship. Alerting the coalition fleet, they then began military operations to engage.
Could anyone present please elaborate on this statement? Did the 'Blinding flashes of light' appear to be a weapon of some sort? It was hard to discern in the melee of battle, but some present said it was akin to the great super weapon the Empress used. I'm not a student of history but others could correct me, she used it in the same location against the Elders. Others thought is was the Drifters super weapons. However after it fired the shield integrity of the Drifters seemed significantly compromised. It only fired the once. Just before the Admiral's ship was destroyed by the Drifters. It is widely now regarded that the Amarrian Navy remains a significant threat to the drifters because of this unknown weapon.
Interesting. To my understanding, the Empress's weapon was described to be a Blue-white ball of plasma, with arching electric currents' or something to that effect. It was said to hit one ship and spread outward. This sounds a little different, but if the shields of the Drifters were significantly weakened after this effect It does indeed sound like a weapon.
If any Capsuleer has camera drone footage of this event (specifically the weapon effect) I would be most interested in analyzing it.
"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
668
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Posted - 2015.06.28 07:52:51 -
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While between Imperial Pharmacy and PIE Inc has been serious differences in past, we courageously fought together when those abominations showed up.
I had no doubt Lord Blake would have chased the drifters back to the hell that spawned them should they have struck me down. |
Mangraa Dementia
Un4seen Development Sev3rance
7
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Posted - 2015.06.28 08:08:48 -
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Sahriah BloodStone wrote:
Interesting. To my understanding, the Empress's weapon was described to be a Blue-white ball of plasma, with arching electric currents' or something to that effect. It was said to hit one ship and spread outward. This sounds a little different, but if the shields of the Drifters were significantly weakened after this effect It does indeed sound like a weapon.
If any Capsuleer has camera drone footage of this event (specifically the weapon effect) I would be most interested in analyzing it.
I don't believe I was on the field to witness the "blinding flashes of light", but I will check my footage again to make sure.
Regardless, you are correct - The Isogen-5 Abbadon was, essentially, a giant ship-sized weapon - that was its sole function. Upon firing, there was reportedly a blinding white (or blue-white) beam emitted from the front of the ship, and as it hit its first target, it arced between most/all of the ships in the Elder fleet. The weapon was so strong it crippled the Abbadon around which it was built, with (now Empress) Jamyl exhausted afterward; most, if not all, of the Abbadon's crew were killed.
However, more interesting is what the original superweapon reportedly did - it caused the shields of the affected ships to begin pushing back against the ship, essentially crushing them with the force of their own shields.
And now we have reports of a blinding white-blue flash, and Drifter battleships, known for their incredibly strong double shield defenses, seem to be easier to break. Hmm...
Not to mention, the Drifters' own "Mini-Doomsday" beam is also a blue-white beam, emitted from the front of the ship, unlike any other weapon we've seen before ... Well, except for one.
OOC: This is based on the Empyrean Age novel, but please correct me if my memory/facts are skewed here... |
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
1152
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Posted - 2015.06.28 08:27:10 -
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I didn't see any white, blinding flashes of light.
I can't help but think that if the Empress used her superweapon, she'd have been a bit more obvious about it. She wasn't in local. No ship or unusual object was sighted.
There were many people taking pictures and videos of the event. It would be odd if none of them caught it.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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Uranium
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.06.28 10:05:34 -
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Praise to the victors!
Honor to the fallen!
The might of the righteous is forever unyielding.
Amarr Victor! |
Brandi Wiseman
Den Sorte Loge
73
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Posted - 2015.06.28 12:10:19 -
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Might there be another explanation? The super weapon was originally discharged in the location. Could there have been some residual effect that weakened the drifter ships when they warped to the same location, especially if there may be some link between the technology used to power their own super weapon?
I am not normally a religious person but it would be a great coincidence indeed if the choice of location for the summit itself held the key to destroying drifter forces.
Fly Caldari!
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1285
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:37:38 -
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Brandi Wiseman wrote:Might there be another explanation? The super weapon was originally discharged in the location. Could there have been some residual effect that weakened the drifter ships when they warped to the same location, especially if there may be some link between the technology used to power their own super weapon?
I am not normally a religious person but it would be a great coincidence indeed if the choice of location for the summit itself held the key to destroying drifter forces.
Interesting theory, some kind of residue from the initial weapon firing effectively shorting out the Drifter shield systems.
From what we've witnessed so far I think the Amarr need to prepare for further attacks, I doubt very much that the 100 battleships was the entire Drifter battle fleet. Considering how they have learned and adapted from previous encounters this could simply make them more cunning and dangerous pilots.
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bardghost Isu
Casteil Extraction Corporation
4
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Posted - 2015.06.28 17:45:43 -
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Brandi Wiseman wrote:Might there be another explanation? The super weapon was originally discharged in the location. Could there have been some residual effect that weakened the drifter ships when they warped to the same location, especially if there may be some link between the technology used to power their own super weapon?
I am not normally a religious person but it would be a great coincidence indeed if the choice of location for the summit itself held the key to destroying drifter forces.
The only way we could find that out would be to engage them there again to see if the effects are the same. |
Malleus Karris
Karris Family
15
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Posted - 2015.06.28 18:02:12 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:I can't help but think that if the Empress used her superweapon, she'd have been a bit more obvious about it. The strength of the Empire has always been the commitment, integrity, and unity of the faithful. In that sense the greatest weapon the Empress could ever wield was present that day.
I was present and fighting through the entire engagement. No blinding flashes were seen, other than the flashes of warp drives as combatants entered the fray. I did see the Drifters attempt to destroy the Faithful with their weapons, which seemed to be more green-white in color.
The Empire does not need superweapons. We have the numbers and will to fight, as well as God backing our righteous cause. |
Max Singularity
House Singularity
189
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:08:45 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote: I pray the Empress takes note of what has transpired.
I again Thank His Eminence Cardinal Dex for his gracious invitation for me and my staff to attend the event. It was by fate only that a scheduled GALNET video broadcast kept me sequestered away from the celebrations, to which I have made known my congratulations for Imperial Dreams 12 year anniversary.
Upon hearing of the appealing and brash Drifter Invasion after the fact I took note via all intel channels of all those that arose to the defense of the Golden Amarr Empire. Although many Sarumites are opposed to my legal inquisitions and queries, I nonetheless hold those who fight for the blessed People of Amarr in high esteem.
The time for prayer is nye, for it is time for less prayer, and more action.
My excuse for not attending is by far weak... but Jamyl's lack of presence or noting what has transpired is yet again another matter of grave concern and yet I call to those that follow blindly to question the visions in your mind. What is she thinking? What has she caused you to think? The threat is real and present and we need true leadership for the True Amarr.
It's Time.
Blessings to the fighters and the 'real' protectors of Amarr.
Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden
-First of his name-
((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
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Vania Naari
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:40:02 -
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Max Singularity wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote: I pray the Empress takes note of what has transpired.
My excuse for not attending is by far weak... but Jamyl's lack of presence or noting what has transpired is yet again another matter of grave concern and yet I call to those that follow blindly to question the visions in your mind. What is she thinking? What has she caused you to think? The threat is real and present and we need true leadership for the True Amarr.
The empress owes us no explanation, and the implication that she can't, or won't deal with this threat appropriately is foolish at best. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
1771
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Posted - 2015.06.29 00:09:27 -
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Max Singularity wrote:... The threat is real and present and we need true leadership for the True Amarr. ... Yes, the legitimate heir to the throne Artcio Kor-Azor Goons might keep stroking their egos about what they have done in the far out lying system that are the galactic desert but in the lush densely populated systems of the empire, they hold no more sway than a buzzing insect makes a stirr as people swat at it. They have no hope of placing their puppet on the throne.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow
Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
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Kontrahage
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
31
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Posted - 2015.06.29 00:22:42 -
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Max Singularity wrote: Blessings to the fighters and the 'real' protectors of Amarr.
Just a week before this glorious victory the same people you so vocally praise here were struggling to fight the hordes of madmen you unleashed on Domain causing more death and destruction than the empire has seen since the terrorist uprising.
How can you claim concern for security and peace when you have already caused more suffering than the Drifters since their first appearance? I fear you are the greatest threat at the moment, followed by the Drifters who, unlike your disciples, did not succeed in setting Amarr ablaze.
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Kahar Dex
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
104
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Posted - 2015.06.29 02:07:59 -
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Max Singularity wrote:
My excuse for not attending is by far weak... but Jamyl's lack of presence or noting what has transpired is yet again another matter of grave concern and yet I call to those that follow blindly to question the visions in your mind. What is she thinking? What has she caused you to think? The threat is real and present and we need true leadership for the True Amarr.
It's Time.
Blessings to the fighters and the 'real' protectors of Amarr.
I have reason to believe that the Empress shall make her thoughts known in due time.
It is not unusual that the Empress was not present. To date, there have never been any appearances by the throne at capsuleer events. Admiral Blake or Lord Hardin can attest to this, but in times past, the Throne has always made announcements by proxy.
The fact that the Imperial Navy was present is testament enough that the Amarr Empire recognizes the loyalty of it's subjects.
Also, given the fact that many witnesses have seen something like what may have been the discharge of an Amarrian super weapon , the Empress may in fact have been there under covert protection.
As a man of faith, I look to the signs of God's hand entering the realm of men. We gathered in Unity of support for Empire and to heed the Empress' call. And the only thing I can see, is what looked to be God's divine intervention, and a glorious victory for Amarr forces. Could this be God's affirmation?. Men of rational would be hard pressed to say that loyalists follow blindly after the events of Drifter Armada defeat.
I cannot see anything that contradicts her divine appointment.
Max, I have been very reasonable in the past. But being present at the battle, many of us were shaken to our core. The priorities at present are not legal inquiry, but to to set our sights on what we should do to promote further unity and shore up our resources against the apparent evil plans of the Drifters.
I would beg you, and the Imperium to consider standing beside us against the peril. Division will surely bring us low, and we must band together to protect the innocent of the Amarr Empire against the Drifter threat, as well as the evil Northern Coalition currently wreaking lawless havoc in Providence. Do me one favor, and be encouraged to consider this.
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Elisk Skyforge
77
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Posted - 2015.06.29 02:17:58 -
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The Empress' blue light miracle that crippled the entire Drifter armada and led to our victory is just another confirmation of Jamyl's godly powers after her ascension, she is our saviour, she watches over us and she is the one and only true leader of the Amarr and its allies.
May she enlighten our path and ignite our sword in fight against the corrupts and the impostor who dares to question her holiness' wisdom. |
Hardin
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
42
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Posted - 2015.06.29 02:27:38 -
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I was happy to get the opportunity to step away from my planet side duties to participate in this event and in the destruction of the Drifter fleet - even though it was a great personal cost.
My Damnation class command ship 'TES Amarr Victor' was in the thick of the action once the CVA fleet commander engaged the enemy fleet. My heart filled with joy as Drifter after Drifter battleship exploded - albeit this was tempered by the high price our own fleet was paying.
Only four Drifter battleships remained when my ship was struck by an incredible force. Despite multiple layers of reinforced armor my flagship was destroyed in an instant and indeed I was lucky that my pod escaped the destruction.
Shocked by what had occurred I remained on the battlefield to watch the end of the battle and cheered as the last Drifter battleship was dispatched.
My heartfelt thanks go to those who organised and participated in this glorious event. Once again loyal Amarrians and their redoubtable allies stood in the path of an apparently untouchable enemy and triumphed. Over the past twelve years we have won and we have lost but the relentless determination endowed by faith in the Empire provides a shield that none may pierce.
We have won great victories, we suffered great setbacks - but through it all we persist. Ultimately we will triumph and bring the light of Amarrian civilisation to all corners of the galaxy.
Amarr Victor
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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
414
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Posted - 2015.06.29 05:25:04 -
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I appreciate the retrieval effort of the Amarrian Fleet who managed to rescue several surviving personnel from the wreakage of the IRV Vanguard. To the captains of the aiding Protectorate forces who offered logistical support: Well done.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Archbishop Abraxas
Defensores Fidei
4
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Posted - 2015.06.29 10:56:30 -
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Avio Yaken wrote: Not everyone there was a Amrrian loyalist...
One day... |
Rytha Main
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
29
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:10:34 -
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I will iterate once and for all.
There were blinding flashes of light and horrific sounds of discharge.
I do not use boosters or any other sort of drugs.
It happened at least twice, and subsequent to those discharges, I was then able to tear through their shields. They did not have a secondary shield, and they were significantly weakened.
If you didn't see it, then you were not looking in the right direction, because it happened. |
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
1180
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:36:01 -
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Rytha Main wrote:If you didn't see it, then you were not looking in the right direction, because it happened.
Captain Main, I appreciate that find the conversation frustrating, but please look at it from an outside point of view.
We have a massive gathering of capsuleers, a superweapon goes off in the middle of them several time, but no one is able to take an image or video of it. Likewise, while you saw it, many others did not.
That makes sense if it's something subtle, but you've reported it as a blinding flash of light and a booming sound.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
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Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
336
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:41:48 -
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I cannot confirm the flash of light, as I must admit my attention was on following fleet orders. However, I do confirm I hear the sounds. Multiple times. I can also confirm that before anyone had a chance to repond or open fire, several drifter battleships already had their shields severely damaged (namely missing their 'blue shield')
I conferred with my superiors, and especially with Lt Kernher, and I am certain something weakened those Drifters. Whether it was a divine act of God, or something else, that caused that specifically I cannot say. However I am certain God still smiled on us that day as we successfully destroyed the Drifter threat, thought at great cost.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1296
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:44:52 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:I cannot confirm the flash of light, as I must admit my attention was on following fleet orders. However, I do confirm I hear the sounds. Multiple times. I can also confirm that before anyone had a chance to repond or open fire, several drifter battleships already had their shields severely damaged (namely missing their 'blue shield')
I conferred with my superiors, and especially with Lt Kernher, and I am certain something weakened those Drifters. Whether it was a divine act of God, or something else, that caused that specifically I cannot say. However I am certain God still smiled on us that day as we successfully destroyed the Drifter threat, thought at great cost.
In terms of losses could I ask what was the rough number of Allied fleet members? It may help others in quantifying the Drifter threat to know what was required to counter a 100 ship Drifter fleet that was already seriously damaged in some manner. |
bardghost Isu
Casteil Extraction Corporation
5
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:46:27 -
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I feel that we need to set up a mission to find what this was and what we could potentially have available to us that is remotely similar or that at least would give us the upper hand in battles with them...
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Liam Antolliere
Liberty Vanguard
632
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:46:56 -
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My condolences to those who lost friends, family and crew; the loss of life is never something to be taken lightly even for we who are so easily desensitized to death.
My congratulations to those who stood in defense against this threat and met victory.
It is my sincere hope that there will be no need for further rallying against this threat but, as that is unlikely, I hope to stand beside you when next it becomes necessary.
"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
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bardghost Isu
Casteil Extraction Corporation
5
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:48:16 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:I cannot confirm the flash of light, as I must admit my attention was on following fleet orders. However, I do confirm I hear the sounds. Multiple times. I can also confirm that before anyone had a chance to repond or open fire, several drifter battleships already had their shields severely damaged (namely missing their 'blue shield')
I conferred with my superiors, and especially with Lt Kernher, and I am certain something weakened those Drifters. Whether it was a divine act of God, or something else, that caused that specifically I cannot say. However I am certain God still smiled on us that day as we successfully destroyed the Drifter threat, thought at great cost. In terms of losses could I ask what was the rough number of Allied fleet members? It may help others in quantifying the Drifter threat to know what was required to counter a 100 ship Drifter fleet that was already seriously damaged in some manner. Last Numbers I saw Was In The 200 Mark But I May Be Wrong
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1296
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:50:41 -
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bardghost Isu wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:I cannot confirm the flash of light, as I must admit my attention was on following fleet orders. However, I do confirm I hear the sounds. Multiple times. I can also confirm that before anyone had a chance to repond or open fire, several drifter battleships already had their shields severely damaged (namely missing their 'blue shield')
I conferred with my superiors, and especially with Lt Kernher, and I am certain something weakened those Drifters. Whether it was a divine act of God, or something else, that caused that specifically I cannot say. However I am certain God still smiled on us that day as we successfully destroyed the Drifter threat, thought at great cost. In terms of losses could I ask what was the rough number of Allied fleet members? It may help others in quantifying the Drifter threat to know what was required to counter a 100 ship Drifter fleet that was already seriously damaged in some manner. Last Numbers I saw Was In The 200 Mark But I May Be Wrong
How many losses were incurred by the Allied fleet? Needing 2:1 advantage against a damaged fleet of Drifters is...disconcerting. |
Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
336
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:52:45 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:I cannot confirm the flash of light, as I must admit my attention was on following fleet orders. However, I do confirm I hear the sounds. Multiple times. I can also confirm that before anyone had a chance to repond or open fire, several drifter battleships already had their shields severely damaged (namely missing their 'blue shield')
I conferred with my superiors, and especially with Lt Kernher, and I am certain something weakened those Drifters. Whether it was a divine act of God, or something else, that caused that specifically I cannot say. However I am certain God still smiled on us that day as we successfully destroyed the Drifter threat, thought at great cost. In terms of losses could I ask what was the rough number of Allied fleet members? It may help others in quantifying the Drifter threat to know what was required to counter a 100 ship Drifter fleet that was already seriously damaged in some manner.
As medical aid to seriously injured and dying is still ongoing, the death toll officially is still rising.
Considering the numbers of battleships lost, it's going to be in the thousands. i will put in a request to Lady Terranova for estimates from our own rescue efforts, but CONCORD's and the Empire's SAR units will need to release their own figures.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1296
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:57:40 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:I cannot confirm the flash of light, as I must admit my attention was on following fleet orders. However, I do confirm I hear the sounds. Multiple times. I can also confirm that before anyone had a chance to repond or open fire, several drifter battleships already had their shields severely damaged (namely missing their 'blue shield')
I conferred with my superiors, and especially with Lt Kernher, and I am certain something weakened those Drifters. Whether it was a divine act of God, or something else, that caused that specifically I cannot say. However I am certain God still smiled on us that day as we successfully destroyed the Drifter threat, thought at great cost. In terms of losses could I ask what was the rough number of Allied fleet members? It may help others in quantifying the Drifter threat to know what was required to counter a 100 ship Drifter fleet that was already seriously damaged in some manner. As medical aid to seriously injured and dying is still ongoing, the death toll officially is still rising. Considering the numbers of battleships lost, it's going to be in the thousands. i will put in a request to Lady Terranova for estimates from our own rescue efforts, but CONCORD's and the Empire's SAR units will need to release their own figures.
Apologies, I meant in terms of ships lost to gain an idea of the tactical requirements should this occur again elsewhere. I dread to think of the losses of crew. I would not describe that as a cost, feels like reducing human life to a monetary term. |
Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
336
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Posted - 2015.06.29 12:01:42 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:I cannot confirm the flash of light, as I must admit my attention was on following fleet orders. However, I do confirm I hear the sounds. Multiple times. I can also confirm that before anyone had a chance to repond or open fire, several drifter battleships already had their shields severely damaged (namely missing their 'blue shield')
I conferred with my superiors, and especially with Lt Kernher, and I am certain something weakened those Drifters. Whether it was a divine act of God, or something else, that caused that specifically I cannot say. However I am certain God still smiled on us that day as we successfully destroyed the Drifter threat, thought at great cost. In terms of losses could I ask what was the rough number of Allied fleet members? It may help others in quantifying the Drifter threat to know what was required to counter a 100 ship Drifter fleet that was already seriously damaged in some manner. As medical aid to seriously injured and dying is still ongoing, the death toll officially is still rising. Considering the numbers of battleships lost, it's going to be in the thousands. i will put in a request to Lady Terranova for estimates from our own rescue efforts, but CONCORD's and the Empire's SAR units will need to release their own figures. Apologies, I meant in terms of ships lost to gain an idea of the tactical requirements should this occur again elsewhere. I dread to think of the losses of crew. I would not describe that as a cost.
My apologies. Due to the nature of killboards, not all of the losses incurred were shown in Galnet boards as Drifters don't seem to be registered in the kill lists. Hiwever, from PIE atleast I know that we lost 2x Battleship sized vessels and atleast 1x frigate and 1x other class (will confirm later after speaking from Admiralty)
From CVA and allied fleets, I know of atleast 5 other battleship class vessel losses (mostly apocs, one rattlesnake one scorpian navy issue) and probably a hell of a lot more on top. I differ to their own statistics for more accurate numbers.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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bardghost Isu
Casteil Extraction Corporation
5
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Posted - 2015.06.29 12:05:42 -
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I Thought He Was Asking How many Ships Were On The Field... Deepest Sympathies To The Families Of The Fallen. But This is Why We Need To Find A Way To Fight Them. |
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