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Liam Antolliere
Liberty Vanguard
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Posted - 2015.06.28 02:01:06 -
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On behalf of the administration and delegation of the Pakhshi Peace Conference;
For immediate release to the public,
Below is a GalNet link to the public hosting of the findings and proposals of the commissions of the PPC. Contained within the document is a foreword from the administrators and a closing word from the chair along with the list of delegates on each commission, each commission's purpose, proposal and findings.
This document will be distributed through private mailing contacts to representatives of every major political power and organization with a public contact and believed to be interested in the pursuit of the conference's goal(s).
It is with pleasure and honor that we bring the PPC to an official close with the release of this document. May the interests of peace never lose support in the generations to come.
Thank you.
~Oulliam Jeaneaux Antolliere, Press Relations Officer, Pakhshi Peace Conference
O.B.O.
Utari Onzo, Administrator, Chair, Pakhshi Peace Conference
Aedre Lafisques, Secretary, Pakhshi Peace Conference
The late Doctor Arkon Sarain, Founder, Patriarch, Pakhshi Peace Conference
"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
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Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
309
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Posted - 2015.06.28 02:16:49 -
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I wish to extend my personal thanks to all Delegates, staff officers and staff involved.
I would also like to extend my thanks to Avio Yaken and the Yaken family for providing the facility's security, and His Lordship Vulxanis Draconis for the catering services provided.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Zekiel Iyhr
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.28 02:21:23 -
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I can only hope that this is the document that makes recent history. |
Lord Kailethre
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
118
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Posted - 2015.06.28 03:01:17 -
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If only Doctor Sarain were here to see his dreams of peace come to at least some level of fruition. |
Sahriah BloodStone
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
123
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Posted - 2015.06.28 03:30:32 -
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Lord Kailethre wrote:If only Doctor Sarain were here to see his dreams of peace come to at least some level of fruition.
His loss was indeed tragic. We can only hope that he lives on in spirit through others.
Congratulations to everyone who put in effort during the conference. Let us hope something comes of it.
"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
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Lucas Raholan
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
156
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Posted - 2015.06.28 03:40:39 -
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Given CONCORD has transformed into a house of tyrants and despots, I fear many of these proposals are now worthless. Recent actions have seemingly pushed the capsuleer community closer to warfare then ever before, the late Dr Arkon would be appalled at their actions. I would not be surprised if my dear friend Odo Korachi isn't already penning brash and threatening mails to the leading council of this endeavour making ridiculous demands to satisfy his own burning need for untapped power.
Regardless I must commend all parties for their tireless effort toward a greater notion of peace in our time I can only hope Odo see's sense and returns to negotiation rather then ruthless stick waving.
Shitposts so bad CONCORD gave me a 50 billion ISK bounty
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Sahriah BloodStone
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
124
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Posted - 2015.06.28 03:52:14 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:Given CONCORD has transformed into a house of tyrants and despots, I fear many of these proposals are now worthless. Recent actions have seemingly pushed the capsuleer community closer to warfare then ever before, the late Dr Arkon would be appalled at their actions. I would not be surprised if my dear friend Odo Korachi isn't already penning brash and threatening mails to the leading council of this endeavour making ridiculous demands to satisfy his own burning need for untapped power.
Regardless I must commend all parties for their tireless effort toward a greater notion of peace in our time I can only hope Odo see's sense and returns to negotiation rather then ruthless stick waving.
It is my hope that the Empires agree to assist us with the review of CONCORD as specified in the documents. It would go a long way to relieving some of their power and bringing them back in line.
I have reached out to the Empire representatives for a official stance on these matters, specifically to ask if they were involved in the recent decision to make you an outlaw. I hope they respond.
"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
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Aedre Lafisques
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
51
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Posted - 2015.06.28 04:56:28 -
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It is my confident belief that no matter what the actions this week or forthcoming, or indeed in our pasts - which we have struggled to come to terms with during the commissions themselves - wavering now because it does not seem 'likely' is killing something before it has a chance to affect anyone, not just the 'hearts of our leaders'.
In our daily lives of monitoring efficiency - killboard efficiency, ISK efficiency, logistics, markets, among an endless list of other things we are responsible for, it is difficult to see the gain in the face of the obstacles at hand. But what we really gain is a voice and a presence; that this body of work is possible and is not representative of only ten or twenty Capsuleers - Any marketing person can tell you that the voice of one speaks not only for himself.
Silence from CONCORD is as much a message as threats from CONCORD, especially in light of the indelicate handling of the Tukoss biomass incident, still developing as we submit these documents, and will be plain for all see - or not see, for better or for worse.
While they may hope that our wills are weak and lazy, that would be a gross underestimation of the tenacity already displayed by the delegates I have witnessed. It is my hope and will, as it was M. Sarain's, that this will be a continuing document, an evolving document, and one people will increasingly see as a valid and reasoned response to our complex political landscape. |
James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
1040
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Posted - 2015.06.28 05:08:02 -
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I read the report and proposals with great interest.
Especially those related to the final disposition of Caldari Prime.
To me, how this issue, above all else is treated, will color the future or our respective civilizations.
I think Arkon would be please with your accomplishment.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5090
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Posted - 2015.06.28 05:36:23 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:Given CONCORD has transformed into a house of tyrants and despots, I fear many of these proposals are now worthless. Recent actions have seemingly pushed the capsuleer community closer to warfare then ever before, the late Dr Arkon would be appalled at their actions. I would not be surprised if my dear friend Odo Korachi isn't already penning brash and threatening mails to the leading council of this endeavour making ridiculous demands to satisfy his own burning need for untapped power.
Regardless I must commend all parties for their tireless effort toward a greater notion of peace in our time I can only hope Odo see's sense and returns to negotiation rather then ruthless stick waving. Please don't conflate the conference with the Tukoss clusterfuck.
We're addressing the Empires - the organ grinder not the monkeys.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1946
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Posted - 2015.06.28 05:48:48 -
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Oh my gosh Pieter please don't call it that |
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
997
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Posted - 2015.06.28 05:53:22 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Lucas Raholan wrote:Given CONCORD has transformed into a house of tyrants and despots, I fear many of these proposals are now worthless. Recent actions have seemingly pushed the capsuleer community closer to warfare then ever before, the late Dr Arkon would be appalled at their actions. I would not be surprised if my dear friend Odo Korachi isn't already penning brash and threatening mails to the leading council of this endeavour making ridiculous demands to satisfy his own burning need for untapped power.
Regardless I must commend all parties for their tireless effort toward a greater notion of peace in our time I can only hope Odo see's sense and returns to negotiation rather then ruthless stick waving. Please don't conflate the conference with the Tukoss clusterfuck. We're addressing the Empires - the organ grinder not the monkeys. You act as this is an isolated incident, but CONCORD has been misusing their power and acting for their own goals rather than the peace and security of the cluster for some time. |
Lord Kailethre
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
122
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Posted - 2015.06.28 08:05:11 -
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Scherezad wrote:Oh my gosh Pieter please don't call it that
Okay, let's call it the Tukoss Fustercluck instead. |
Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
54
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Posted - 2015.06.28 08:18:22 -
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Honorable Chair to the Pakhshi Peace Conference, Respected Staff and Delegates,
Please let me express my sincere gratitude for taking up the torch and carry on the ideal and work of Dr. Arkon Sarain. I am convinced that, no matter what we see happen in the news those days, we need this initiative. It will help me focus on things relevant for the future and, hopefully, for a greater good.
Sincerely yours,
Haria Haritimado
Character blog: Horizons and Reflections
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1072
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Posted - 2015.06.28 09:09:52 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:Given CONCORD has transformed into a house of tyrants and despots, I fear many of these proposals are now worthless. Recent actions have seemingly pushed the capsuleer community closer to warfare then ever before, the late Dr Arkon would be appalled at their actions. I would not be surprised if my dear friend Odo Korachi isn't already penning brash and threatening mails to the leading council of this endeavour making ridiculous demands to satisfy his own burning need for untapped power.
Regardless I must commend all parties for their tireless effort toward a greater notion of peace in our time I can only hope Odo see's sense and returns to negotiation rather then ruthless stick waving.
I find that rather rude to ascribe opinions to late Dr Sarain and drag him as an emotional lever into your political agenda, sir... |
iyammarrok
Ultramar Independent Contracting
335
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Posted - 2015.06.28 12:19:10 -
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Not in this thread Lucas. You've done enough damage.
Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
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Vizage
Capital Allied Industrial Distribution Evictus.
170
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:16:11 -
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My most sincere congratulations to everyone involved in the conference. I will take more time to read this more thoroughly but what I have seen is pretty great. This document represents a bright hope for our future. Congratulations again
K. Amsel |
Sammie MacWinters
Dutch East Querious Company Phoebe Freeport Republic
16
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Posted - 2015.06.28 18:35:44 -
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It's ok. |
Esna Pitoojee
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
508
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Posted - 2015.06.28 22:48:20 -
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I particularly commend several delegates - Sahriah Bloodstone, Khaprice, Samira Kernher to name a few that I was most directly involved with - for coming together and being willing to negotiate on particularly stubborn or politically charged terms. Thank you very much for a successful document! |
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7222
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:13:08 -
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I would like to thank Haritimado-haani for serving as a delegate to the PPC, and for championing our shared values so ably.
Reading this final draft, I would like to formally endorse it as CEO of Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries, Ltd. Returning CONCORD's legislative power to the empires would be a helpful step, given CONCORD's recently-displayed hegemonic tendencies.
In service, Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Matar Ronin
563
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Posted - 2015.06.29 02:44:20 -
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Liam Antolliere wrote:On behalf of the administration and delegation of the Pakhshi Peace Conference; For immediate release to the public, Below is a GalNet link to the public hosting of the findings and proposals of the commissions of the PPC. Contained within the document is a foreword from the administrators and a closing word from the chair along with the list of delegates on each commission, each commission's purpose, proposal and findings. This document will be distributed through private mailing contacts to representatives of every major political power and organization with a public contact and believed to be interested in the pursuit of the conference's goal(s). Sadly after all the work put in by some well meaning people this document comes up short.
You failed to understand the sincere an essential nature of the single simple uncompromising eloquent statement, "No Abolition, No Peace!"
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Liam Antolliere
Liberty Vanguard
620
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Posted - 2015.06.29 03:22:25 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:You failed to understand the sincere an essential nature of the single simple uncompromising eloquent statement, "No Abolition, No Peace!"
To put a finer point on it, Monsieur Ronin;
The delegation for the Minmatar Republic and the interests of slavery and its abolition failed to take the hard line stance you have chosen to take. Perhaps next time, you'll find the courage and will to step down from your throne and represent that stance yourself.
Until then, Godspeed.
"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
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Matar Ronin
565
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Posted - 2015.06.29 06:08:08 -
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Liam Antolliere wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:You failed to understand the sincere an essential nature of the single simple uncompromising eloquent statement, "No Abolition, No Peace!"
To put a finer point on it, Monsieur Ronin; The delegation for the Minmatar Republic and the interests of slavery and its abolition failed to take the hard line stance you have chosen to take. Perhaps next time, you'll find the courage and will to step down from your throne and represent that stance yourself. Until then, Godspeed. You've done so much patting yourself on the back you must be double jointed. You bunch of heroes sat down and talked. Hardly the most courageous thing a person can do.
You tried to put on a good showing, I can see that, but you were unable to make the hard choice for the Matari people. Sure tell the Gallente to get off Caldari Prime but let's not upset the slavery cult empire because we like their faux faith and slick sounding titles. But worse than simply failing, you world class failed by proclaiming "slavery" legal in New Eden, a huge step against the Matari people.
You address war crimes because it effects all the rest of you, but you condone and make legal crimes against humanity, so long as that humanity is Matari, you are a disgrace.
You tried for fame and success in the pursuit of peace, you failed on both counts, your fifteen minutes are up.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
334
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Posted - 2015.06.29 06:24:19 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:Liam Antolliere wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:You failed to understand the sincere an essential nature of the single simple uncompromising eloquent statement, "No Abolition, No Peace!"
To put a finer point on it, Monsieur Ronin; The delegation for the Minmatar Republic and the interests of slavery and its abolition failed to take the hard line stance you have chosen to take. Perhaps next time, you'll find the courage and will to step down from your throne and represent that stance yourself. Until then, Godspeed. You've done so much patting yourself on the back you must be double jointed. You bunch of heroes sat down and talked. Hardly the most courageous thing a person can do. You tried to put on a good showing, I can see that, but you were unable to make the hard choice for the Matari people. Sure tell the Gallente to get off Caldari Prime but let's not upset the slavery cult empire because we like their faux faith and slick sounding titles. But worse than simply failing, you world class failed by proclaiming "slavery" legal in New Eden, a huge step against the Matari people. You address war crimes because it effects all the rest of you, but you condone and make legal crimes against humanity, so long as that humanity is Matari, you are a disgrace. You tried for fame and success in the pursuit of peace, you failed on both counts, your fifteen minutes are up.
And so are yours, you pitiful excus for a forum troll.
I can attest to one Matari delegate who would not hesitate in gunning me down if she had the chance, but who conducted herself with the ut most decorum and civility. She has, frankly, done more to cause actual harm to the Empires you ever had. You're a soap box while she's an actual threat. You had a chance to participate and turned it down, she assisted in helping shape it. As much as I think she despises me with a passion, I hope this delegate understands when I say she's worth infinitely more to the Matari people then a thousand of you.
Now, in blunter language then my honourable opponant in the militia war Mr Antolliere. **** off.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Matar Ronin
566
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Posted - 2015.06.29 06:54:26 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:Liam Antolliere wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:You failed to understand the sincere an essential nature of the single simple uncompromising eloquent statement, "No Abolition, No Peace!"
To put a finer point on it, Monsieur Ronin; The delegation for the Minmatar Republic and the interests of slavery and its abolition failed to take the hard line stance you have chosen to take. Perhaps next time, you'll find the courage and will to step down from your throne and represent that stance yourself. Until then, Godspeed. You've done so much patting yourself on the back you must be double jointed. You bunch of heroes sat down and talked. Hardly the most courageous thing a person can do. You tried to put on a good showing, I can see that, but you were unable to make the hard choice for the Matari people. Sure tell the Gallente to get off Caldari Prime but let's not upset the slavery cult empire because we like their faux faith and slick sounding titles. But worse than simply failing, you world class failed by proclaiming "slavery" legal in New Eden, a huge step against the Matari people. You address war crimes because it effects all the rest of you, but you condone and make legal crimes against humanity, so long as that humanity is Matari, you are a disgrace. You tried for fame and success in the pursuit of peace, you failed on both counts, your fifteen minutes are up. And so are yours, you pitiful excus for a forum troll. I can attest to one Matari delegate who would not hesitate in gunning me down if she had the chance, but who conducted herself with the ut most decorum and civility. She has, frankly, done more to cause actual harm to the Empires you ever had. You're a soap box while she's an actual threat. You had a chance to participate and turned it down, she assisted in helping shape it. As much as I think she despises me with a passion, I hope this delegate understands when I say she's worth infinitely more to the Matari people then a thousand of you. Now, in blunter language then my honourable opponant in the militia war Mr Antolliere. **** off. Four asterisks ..... you PIE slices are so entertaining ..... so brave, so fierce, yet you never undock alone. Live a year in null sec hero. Without your pals and just your wits. You'd be useless in a month because you most likely have no building skills, no mining skills, just an itchy trigger finger. You spent all your time learning to shoot at targets you outnumber, and where you can quickly re-clone. Your version of honorable militia combat is currently losing ground, correct?
So I do not think much for your opinion of combat effectiveness against the demonic slavery cult, you are not smart enough to even know when you are losing. Pray to your demon that your capsuleer on that throne of blood can pull another super weapon out of her .... hat, the next time a Minmatar Rescue Fleet shows up on your doorstep because last time all you admirals got your collective behinds kicked. Oh yeah and good luck with the war against the Jove, I am so looking forward to you doing that dance again.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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iyammarrok
Ultramar Independent Contracting
344
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Posted - 2015.06.29 08:45:12 -
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Do be silent Ronin, Your republic's Delegates understood the simple premise that immediate abolition would cripple both Matar and Amarr, They took the better route.
something in your narrow view on the world you would have failed to even see.
If you must be so blind, do so elsewhere, this thread concerns peace, not your arrogant warmongering.
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1086
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Posted - 2015.06.29 08:51:15 -
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Why do you all continue to answer to him... ? |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
1737
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Posted - 2015.06.29 10:29:47 -
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A congratulations to the participants of the conference in reaching agreement on their submission to the CONCORD Assembly suggestions box. I am certain, as recent events have shown, the Inner Circle takes any and all capsuleer concerns seriously and will take the time and have the interest to address all the points raised with the gravity such an effort deserves.
I did have a chuckle about War Crimes when I imagined the delegates of Yulai signatories trying to agree on the wording of those articles. It's like deciding what kind of rope is preferred before hanging yourself from the gallows of self-implication.
Best not to hang yourself at all! |
Liam Antolliere
Liberty Vanguard
631
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Posted - 2015.06.29 11:10:07 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:A congratulations to the participants of the conference in reaching agreement on their submission to the CONCORD Assembly suggestions box. I am certain, as recent events have shown, the Inner Circle takes any and all capsuleer concerns seriously and will take the time and have the interest to address all the points raised with the gravity such an effort deserves.
I did have a chuckle about War Crimes when I imagined the delegates of Yulai signatories trying to agree on the wording of those articles. It's like deciding what kind of rope is preferred before hanging yourself from the gallows of self-implication.
Best not to hang yourself at all!
Madame Gesakaarin,
Thank you for your candid review and opinion on both the delegation's efforts and the potential response (or lack thereof) from CONCORD. I am certain you are not the only one with such a viewpoint and I will certainly not suggest it is not warranted.
However, I did wish to take a moment to clarify that the "CONCORD Assembly suggestion box" is only one of several intended destinations. As was stated when the conference first began, we have no delusions of grandeur, no presumptions of authority or vain hopes that our efforts will change the cluster over night. What we have is a collective desire to do more than simply throw our hands in the air and accept that we're powerless to affect change on any magnitude of scale; because we're not.
What the delegates have done is demonstrated the will to not only come together, setting aside bitter enmity, and pursue a resolution to ongoing conflict that is considerate of all sides but also the determination to see it through in spite of hardship, assassination, ridicule, doubt (others and no doubt their own as well) and frustration.
That demonstration may serve to influence others in years to come. Perhaps nothing done here will change anything, perhaps it will change everything. Regardless of the outcome, the demonstration itself is a necessary step along the path.
"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
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Matar Ronin
569
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Posted - 2015.06.29 16:42:54 -
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iyammarrok wrote:Do be silent Ronin, Your republic's Delegates understood the simple premise that immediate abolition would cripple both Matar and Amarr, They took the better route.
something in your narrow view on the world you would have failed to even see.
If you must be so blind, do so elsewhere, this thread concerns peace, not your arrogant warmongering. That old worn out lie does not fly. It would "bankrupt" the poor Minmatar Republic if slavery were abolished cry the idiots.
Did they not see the Rescue Fleet built in secret by these almost broke people that nearly toppled the most populous regime in New Eden?
Go ahead and keep believing that we are so broke we can not feed ourselves and then marvel as the next Rescue Fleet strikes against the demonic slavery cult to free more people.
Do you really think the slaves held in bondage are not an integral part of the economic system that supports the regime that holds them?
If anyone fears the financial repercussions of abolition it is the lazy slave holders who leech off the fruits of their labors.
Surely you took at least one class in economics during your education. Can it be their silver tongues have beguiled you to the point where you actually believe they hold people in generational slavery because they so care for their well being? Are you that gullible?
The man fighting against generational slavery is the one you call warmonger, and the gentleman slave holder with whom you have genteel conferences with to legalize slavery is the agent of peace? If you believe that you sir are no better then them.
No Abolition, No Peace!
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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