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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
888
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Posted - 2015.06.28 11:49:54 -
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My esteemed soon ex-lord Lucas Raholan,
As we all know, these are grim times in the Empire. Yesterday's events have proven that certain mysterious flying sliverfish do not like the idea of Imperial loyalists gathering to show support for their Empire. It makes one wonder why a certain heroic lord was not present to defend his fellows and Empire from the immense threat that now faces us. And then I remember:
It's because he has his thumb stuck up Hillen Tukoss's dead arse.
How does it feel to destroy your house because you enjoy fondling a dead body in the dark reaches of w-space more than ruling a part of the Empire like a wise and judicious man? Though I suppose that for you to accomplish the later you would have to be wise and judicious. Or a even a man. Nay, how could one expect you to do that when you seem to be far more accomplished at being a stupid, cowardly Caldari Corpse ******? I am not entirely sure what manner of creature a Caldari Corpse ****** is, but I am certain it should not be ruling a Holding until a suitable number of millennia under the lash has proven it to be redeemable in the eyes of God. They should first probably be made to give up their greedy obsession with necrotic foreign researchers. Isn't you thumb getting cold yet?
Thousand died today in defense of the Empire and all that we hold dear. I wish you could have been there so that you could have left your house a tiny bit of dignity on you way out. Unfortunately you have an uppity Ni-Kunni pissing on your burning memory. Please come home and stop me.
Yours,
Aldy
Aside: if you are still a Holder in the coming weeks, I will retract my statement here and issue a full apology. If not, my remarks stand and I will help make sure House Raholan ends up as nothing more than a stain on my commoner boots. Until then. |
N'maro Makari
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
487
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Posted - 2015.06.28 11:55:07 -
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I preferred your poems.
Entertaining nonetheless though.
Bring my my chalice of popped corn.
**Vherokior-á**
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Synthetic Cultist
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
428
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Posted - 2015.06.28 11:58:05 -
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This is Substantially more Forthright than I have come to Expect from Aldrith Shutaq. |
Lord Kailethre
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
124
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Posted - 2015.06.28 12:23:02 -
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I enjoyed myself.
I think I'll see this movie later, maybe buy the holoreel copy too. |
Anslo
Scope Works
31860
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Posted - 2015.06.28 12:46:51 -
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Can I have your autograph?
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Matar Ronin
546
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:01:44 -
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It is always great when the fanatics of PIE start slicing up their fellow demonic slavery cult members.
The corpse loving, blood drinking, human abusing ways of this demonic slavery cult is a well documented fact.
The faux disgust expressed publicly when the covers are pulled back and their sickness is exposed for others to see is predictably theatrical. In the next act a series of admirals and bishops will tell this guy to close his big mouth. ( seems like they all have the title of admiral or bishop doesn't it? lol phony titles and false faith walk hand in hand )
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1284
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:06:25 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:It is always great when the fanatics of PIE start slicing up their fellow demonic slavery cult members.
The corpse loving, blood drinking, human abusing ways of this demonic slavery cult is a well documented fact.
The faux disgust expressed publicly when the covers are pulled back and their sickness is exposed for others to see is predictably theatrical. In the next act a series of admirals and bishops will tell this guy to close his big mouth. ( seems like they all have the title of admiral or bishop doesn't it? lol phony titles and false faith walk hand in hand )
Don't bash the Bishops too much, you'll go blind... |
Anslo
Scope Works
31860
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:08:15 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:It is always great when the fanatics of PIE start slicing up their fellow demonic slavery cult members.
The corpse loving, blood drinking, human abusing ways of this demonic slavery cult is a well documented fact.
The faux disgust expressed publicly when the covers are pulled back and their sickness is exposed for others to see is predictably theatrical. In the next act a series of admirals and bishops will tell this guy to close his big mouth. ( seems like they all have the title of admiral or bishop doesn't it? lol phony titles and false faith walk hand in hand ) Oh shut up and go scheme with your Graelyn look alike mouth piece you pay so much to talk trash.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Aria Jenneth
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
988
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:10:50 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:The corpse loving, blood drinking ... ways of this demonic slavery cult is [sic] a well documented fact.
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
895
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:11:25 -
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Oh, butt out Ronin. We all know you could fit a lot more stiff things into your big mouth than Raholan can. So If you'd please, do so and leave satire in the hands of the experts. |
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Deitra Vess
Scope Works
451
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:26:31 -
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Wow... somebodys a little mad it seems. |
Gorion Wassenar
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
105
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:50:21 -
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Must suck being stuck with the how and what while Lucas is trying to answer the why and where.
Rote Kapelle - NOW IN SLIGHTLY MORE LAW ABIDING FLAVOR!
"DRINK STARSI!" -¬-«GäóOwnership Group Chairman
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Lord Kailethre
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
124
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:57:06 -
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You know an IGS post has done well when there are angry morons frothing at the mouth and spewing their uneducated bile. |
Jev North
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
291
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:58:30 -
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All the charm of a jumper hitting the pavement. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
2402
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Posted - 2015.06.28 14:33:47 -
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So like... Did he say something mean about your mother or... |
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7186
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Posted - 2015.06.28 14:46:15 -
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Once upon a time, I respected PIE deeply. The amount of bleating I've seen on the forum in recent days hasn't done much for that respect, however.
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Liam Antolliere
Liberty Vanguard
602
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:00:37 -
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Anslo wrote:Can I have your autograph?
Couldn't have put it better myself.
"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
903
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:14:40 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Once upon a time, I respected PIE deeply. The amount of bleating I've seen on the forum in recent days hasn't done much for that respect, however.
These are my words, not PIE's. I honestly expect to be thoroughly told off for this, but hopefully the admirals will be too busy giggling behind their office doors to strip me of rank. The only response that actually matters right now is the esteemed Lord's anyway. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
1961
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:21:53 -
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As much as I'd love to jump in here and stir the pot I think I'll just sit back with a cold drink and watch the fireworks.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1711
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:22:31 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Once upon a time, I respected PIE deeply. The amount of bleating I've seen on the forum in recent days hasn't done much for that respect, however.
Ms. Priano, you chose to turn the matter into a public fiasco. The only one you can blame for 'bleating on the forum' is yourself. Perhaps you were expecting broad support, but some have no desire to provide assistance to those who blatantly promote civil disobedience.
If you wished a polite and cooperative handling of the situation, perhaps you should have considered keeping the negotiations in the private sphere. PIE's response might have been different had we been contacted directly and away from the public eye. The way you chose to handle this situation, however, has left us with only the option of applying public pressure in the hope of seeing the situation resolved in an expedient and law-abiding manner.
"Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away."
-- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
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Matar Ronin
550
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:31:22 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Once upon a time, I respected PIE deeply. The amount of bleating I've seen on the forum in recent days hasn't done much for that respect, however. Ms. Priano, you chose to turn the matter into a public fiasco. The only one you can blame for 'bleating on the forum' is yourself. Perhaps you were expecting broad support, but some have no desire to provide assistance to those who blatantly promote civil disobedience. If you wished a polite and cooperative handling of the situation, perhaps you should have considered keeping the negotiations in the private sphere. PIE's response might have been different had we been contacted directly and away from the public eye. The way you chose to handle this situation, however, has left us with only the option of applying public pressure in the hope of seeing the situation resolved in an expedient and law-abiding manner. In other words PIE will lie publicly about their position if you confer with them in private first and get their blessing. Thanks for that clarification, good to know their principles are .... um .... flexible.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1713
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:54:57 -
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I said nothing about lying, you halfwit.
"Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away."
-- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
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Jev North
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
293
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:59:13 -
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Splattering like a trash bag filled with vegetable soup. |
Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7192
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:01:20 -
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Samira Kernher wrote: If you wished a polite and cooperative handling of the situation, perhaps you should have considered keeping the negotiations in the private sphere. PIE's response might have been different had we been contacted directly and away from the public eye. The way you chose to handle this situation, however, has left us with only the option of applying public pressure in the hope of seeing the situation resolved in an expedient and law-abiding manner.
A comforting lie, Kernher. Your organization's response would have been the same as every others': "bend the knee," nevermind that Scherezad-haani, Dr. Celes Tenebrae, and I have never had any means to materially comply with Korachi's demands and hegemonic whims.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1713
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:20:54 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Samira Kernher wrote: If you wished a polite and cooperative handling of the situation, perhaps you should have considered keeping the negotiations in the private sphere. PIE's response might have been different had we been contacted directly and away from the public eye. The way you chose to handle this situation, however, has left us with only the option of applying public pressure in the hope of seeing the situation resolved in an expedient and law-abiding manner.
A comforting lie, Kernher. Your organization's response would have been the same as every others': "bend the knee," nevermind that Scherezad-haani, Dr. Celes Tenebrae, and I have never had any means to materially comply with Korachi's demands and hegemonic whims.
Perhaps where you are from, group punishments are unheard of. In Amarr, consequences for your associates as a result of your own actions is common. Generational slavery is exactly that. I was born as a slave as punishment for the sins of people thousands of years ago. Such a thing is to encourage people to think of the effects their actions have on others instead of just themselves. This, unfortunately, was a lesson Lord Raholan never seemed to have learned, and now his associates and his entire house will be paying the price for his transgressions. The person you should be blaming is him, not us, and not CONCORD.
So yes, we would have told you to bend the knee. But we would have been more willing to assist you in negotiating for a more lenient response, and it would have been done without the need for public rebuking and formal disassociation. But when you make the matter public, and release private mails, you force a firm and equally public stance.
"Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away."
-- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7194
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:24:37 -
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Subservience, Kernher, is now all I'll ever expect of you.
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Matar Ronin
553
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:39:44 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Samira Kernher wrote: If you wished a polite and cooperative handling of the situation, perhaps you should have considered keeping the negotiations in the private sphere. PIE's response might have been different had we been contacted directly and away from the public eye. The way you chose to handle this situation, however, has left us with only the option of applying public pressure in the hope of seeing the situation resolved in an expedient and law-abiding manner.
A comforting lie, Kernher. Your organization's response would have been the same as every others': "bend the knee," nevermind that Scherezad-haani, Dr. Celes Tenebrae, and I have never had any means to materially comply with Korachi's demands and hegemonic whims. Perhaps where you are from, group punishments are unheard of. In Amarr, consequences for your associates as a result of your own actions is common. Generational slavery is exactly that. I was born as a slave as punishment for the sins of people thousands of years ago. Such a thing is to encourage people to think of the effects their actions have on others instead of just themselves. This, unfortunately, was a lesson Lord Raholan never seemed to have learned, and now his associates and his entire house will be paying the price for his transgressions. The person you should be blaming is him, not us, and not CONCORD. So yes, we would have told you to bend the knee. But we would have been more willing to assist you in negotiating for a more lenient response, and it would have been done without the need for public rebuking and formal disassociation. But when you make the matter public, and release private mails, you force a firm and equally public stance. Listen well Caldari allies of the Slavery cult, thousands of years of punishment for being in a group which, do to the perceived transgression of the slavery cult member's unwillingness to comply with a heavy handed CONCORD is coming your way with the blessings of PIE.
Right now it seems like the honorable Caldari have done all they can and their fates are in the hands of the slavery cult member of their "group", choosing dishonorable allies always comes with a price. Currently that price is being set by CONCORD,
The slavery cult is looking for more patsies to join them in a war against the Jove. History tells us how well their last contest went.
Today they outnumbered a force of Drifters who were able to transport into the heart of their domain by methods they cannot match, certainly a tactical challenge in a combat situation, and now they wish to press forward with war!
Stand with them if you choose but pray the Jove do not treat "groups" as severely as the demonic slavery cultist amarrians do.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1806
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:42:59 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Once upon a time, I respected PIE deeply. The amount of bleating I've seen on the forum in recent days hasn't done much for that respect, however. Ms. Priano, you chose to turn the matter into a public fiasco. The only one you can blame for 'bleating on the forum' is yourself. Perhaps you were expecting broad support, but some have no desire to provide assistance to those who blatantly promote civil disobedience. Not the first time when she turns matter into a public fiasco. As for promoting civil disobedience, this isn't just against CONCORD laws, this is against Caldari traditions and laws. I am rather surprised that CEP hasn't issued our own bounty on her head. |
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1952
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:49:54 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Perhaps where you are from, group punishments are unheard of. In Amarr, consequences for your associates as a result of your own actions is common. Generational slavery is exactly that. I was born as a slave as punishment for the sins of people thousands of years ago. Such a thing is to encourage people to think of the effects their actions have on others instead of just themselves. This, unfortunately, was a lesson Lord Raholan never seemed to have learned, and now his associates and his entire house will be paying the price for his transgressions. The person you should be blaming is him, not us, and not CONCORD.
So yes, we would have told you to bend the knee. But we would have been more willing to assist you in negotiating for a more lenient response, and it would have been done without the need for public rebuking and formal disassociation. But when you make the matter public, and release private mails, you force a firm and equally public stance. I was invited by the Lord Raholan to conduct a study, under the auspices of a DED observer.
I conducted that study under the auspices of the DED observer.
I presented the findings of that study to both the DED and the Lord Raholan in a timely and professional manner.
For doing what I was asked, by an ally to my State and CEO, and by the legal police authority, I am being threatened with punishment, in order to 'encourage me to think of how my actions affect others'?
That is ridiculous. Specifically, it's a justification. It's so incorrect it's not even wrong - it has no relation to the events going on right now whatsoever. If you see the actions of the DED in this debacle as just, or honourable, or even appropriate, then you have no sense of these words.
Perhaps you need to 'think a little on how your words affect others', and learn to stop upending the barrel of your unfriendly opinions on anything that disagrees with you, miss. |
Liam Antolliere
Liberty Vanguard
609
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:51:19 -
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With respect Lieutenant Kernher,
I completely agree with your assessment that Lord Raholan is at fault for his obstinate refusal to cooperate and continued public opposition to CONCORD. I also agree that at least a portion, perhaps even a majority portion, of the anger and frustration should be directed toward him.
However, the scrupulous individual cannot overlook the fault of CONCORD in this affair either. Group punishment may be acceptable and expected in the Empire but we're not in the Empire, we're in the interstellar political arena. Here, a conscientious effort to recognize the limited capability of the individual to comply with the demands of CONCORD and the acknowledgement of their spirit of cooperation and their demonstrable efforts to comply should not only be expected, it should be strictly upheld.
The blatant disregard for the cooperative efforts of many of the individuals being pursued by CONCORD as well as the extremely heavy-handed and excessive exercise of authority toward those individuals should not be overlooked or considered acceptable.
You may wish to "bend the knee" to CONCORD simply because of their authority, which I commend, but I am not. If we permit CONCORD to continue with such heavy-handed methodology then we'll have no one to blame but ourselves for not standing on ethical principle from the beginning.
"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
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