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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
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Posted - 2015.06.28 18:46:28 -
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Probably it was already posted somewhere somehow, but anyway.
I've noticed that T3D (particularly Confessor) are fully insurable. This means that losing such hull is much cheaper than, say T2 frig. Doesn't feel right to me.
Is that intended? |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3750
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Posted - 2015.06.28 19:14:01 -
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Maybe it's an incentive to put more bling on it.
Oh god.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2015.06.28 20:09:36 -
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So, hypothetically, some organization could buy the stock of T3Ds and destroy the ships with the goal of limiting supplies to drive up prices?
Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
889
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Posted - 2015.06.28 20:29:12 -
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stoicfaux wrote:So, hypothetically, some organization could buy the stock of T3Ds and destroy the ships with the goal of limiting supplies to drive up prices? Or to reduce likelihood of encountering one? |
Hengle Teron
Explosions Delivered with Love
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Posted - 2015.06.28 20:31:53 -
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Except, there's also insurance fee... |
Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
889
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Posted - 2015.06.28 20:38:40 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:Except, there's also insurance fee... Of course. So in the end it's about what 10-12 m per hull? Almost 2 times cheaper than AFs. |
NFain
Elysian Ascent Empyreus
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Posted - 2015.06.28 22:24:37 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:Except, there's also insurance fee... Of course. So in the end it's about what 10-12 m per hull? Almost 2 times cheaper than AFs.
definitely a great point that i hope gets addressed |
Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
250
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Posted - 2015.06.28 22:27:58 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:Except, there's also insurance fee... Of course. So in the end it's about what 10-12 m per hull? Almost 2 times cheaper than AFs.
And almost 10-20 times more superior to assfrigs in every way. And basically everything below T3 Cruisers
Sounds balanced. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.06.28 23:26:11 -
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You should know by now that anything new is in some way OP until it's nerfed for the coming new thing. |
Ripblade Falconpunch
Centurion Logistics
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Posted - 2015.06.29 00:12:32 -
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Perhaps the problem isn't that the insurance is too high - it's that insurance on most T2 ships just plain sucks?
I've got zero problems with it, but I have noticed that it's a lot easier to get newbeans to undock and shoot stuff in a ship that actually has a decent payout and is good enough that it doesn't feel completely outclassed.
I think it's fantastic - and I hope the other ships get buffed to match it, rather than just nerfing it. |
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
250
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Posted - 2015.06.29 02:08:01 -
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WAIT WAIT WAIT. ...
You mean T3 - Destroyers actually die?
Like not some terribad fit. Not some carebear trying to pvp. Not lag. Not some baddie. Not trans-atlantic ocean isp server tick soceket error. Not some evil cat walking on keyboard.
But like T3Ds need insurance? ??
If the above doesnt happen/apply to you... HOW IN THE WORLD ARE YOU DYING IN ONE?
You should never need to insure an invincible ship yo.
Ps. I just finished AssFrig V on 2 toons so that my Ishkur can have a full flight of backup drones. What a damn waste compared to Svipul and Helcat Freaking waste of time i really am mad. Like seriously mad dude. MAD |
Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari End of Life
90
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Posted - 2015.06.29 03:18:58 -
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They die. Mostly to other T3Ds. So at least you know that either you or the other person got a good payout from it
Ps. How can you have only just finished AssFrigs V? How did that queue not get dumped 2 weeks after the Confessor came out? Or the Svipul? Or a few months back after they got 'nerfed' and are still the godmode ships they are today? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.06.29 03:21:35 -
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Davis TetrisKing wrote:Ps. How can you have only just finished AssFrigs V? How did that queue not get dumped 2 weeks after the Confessor came out? Or the Svipul? Or a few months back after they got 'nerfed' and are still the godmode ships they are today? It's Carrie-Anne mate. Don't ask questions. Just enjoy the quality posting and smile.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Davis TetrisKing
The Vendunari End of Life
90
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Posted - 2015.06.29 03:25:04 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Davis TetrisKing wrote:Ps. How can you have only just finished AssFrigs V? How did that queue not get dumped 2 weeks after the Confessor came out? Or the Svipul? Or a few months back after they got 'nerfed' and are still the godmode ships they are today? It's Carrie-Anne mate. Don't ask questions. Just enjoy the quality posting and smile.
Secretly I'm just jealous that I don't have AssFrigsV. But just don't tell anyone. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
740
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Posted - 2015.06.29 06:58:59 -
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Reduce the tank to the minimum, don't use links and drugs and yes, you can make your T3Ds die.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Don Pera Saissore
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Posted - 2015.06.29 12:37:46 -
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I get 1 mil for the jackdaw :( |
Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
345
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Posted - 2015.06.29 13:38:33 -
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Yea jackdaw's insurance is almost non-existant.
BCs and BS kill t3d very easy. Or anything with a medium neut. Plus they have nice insurance payouts as well. For when you get hotdropped
Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
893
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Posted - 2015.06.29 14:06:37 -
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Don Pera Saissore wrote:I get 1 mil for the jackdaw :( Sounds like dessie insurance, something I would expect. Then I suppose it's a bug and Confessor-specific. Can anyone report what's up with Svipul in this department? |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
412
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Posted - 2015.06.29 14:17:54 -
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Stitch Kaneland wrote:Yea jackdaw's insurance is almost non-existant. BCs and BS kill t3d very easy. Or anything with a medium neut. Plus they have nice insurance payouts as well. For when you get hotdropped
For when you get chased out of the system by a Vexor. |
Ripblade Falconpunch
Centurion Logistics
232
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Posted - 2015.06.29 14:51:59 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Don Pera Saissore wrote:I get 1 mil for the jackdaw :( Sounds like dessie insurance, something I would expect. Then I suppose it's a bug and Confessor-specific. Can anyone report what's up with Svipul in this department?
IIRC, Svipul gets the same insurance as the Confessor. So if there's a bug, it's with the Jackdaw - not T3TD insurance. |
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
746
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Posted - 2015.06.29 15:53:55 -
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Ripblade Falconpunch wrote:Barrogh Habalu wrote:Don Pera Saissore wrote:I get 1 mil for the jackdaw :( Sounds like dessie insurance, something I would expect. Then I suppose it's a bug and Confessor-specific. Can anyone report what's up with Svipul in this department? IIRC, Svipul gets the same insurance as the Confessor. So if there's a bug, it's with the Jackdaw - not T3TD insurance. No bug, it needs time to get the market price reflected in the insurance system. The Jackdaw is too new.
For my Svipul I got 2x 17mio yesterday (basic insurance, platinum is only a few million more after fee).
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
895
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Posted - 2015.06.30 06:45:05 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:No bug, it needs time to get the market price reflected in the insurance system. The Jackdaw is too new.
For my Svipul I got 2x 17mio yesterday (basic insurance, platinum is only a few million more after fee). Wasn't that supposed to be market price of minerals rather than market price of item? |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
747
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Posted - 2015.06.30 07:54:48 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:No bug, it needs time to get the market price reflected in the insurance system. The Jackdaw is too new.
For my Svipul I got 2x 17mio yesterday (basic insurance, platinum is only a few million more after fee). Wasn't that supposed to be market price of minerals rather than market price of item? I think there is also some CCP magic in the formula ... but I'm not a producer, so maybe there is a new item in the production which was also introduced just recently.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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