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Martinius Tawate
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.04 19:37:42 -
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Hello.
I was just going to return to Eve Online, when I realized my computer could no longer handle the game.
I guess this is due to some updated graphics?
I do not have a good computer, but it was able to run it before.
It is: msi b75ma-p45 G2120 intel 8 GB DDR3 Nvidia GTX650
What I now hope is that it will run decently if I upgrade my Nvidia GTX650.
Will it be enough to update the graphic card? If yes, any recommendations to a card not so expensive? This computer is only used for Eve Online, reading newspapers and watch netflix and it`s like. Nothing else. Not so keen on buying too expensive parts just fort one game - however, if I have to..
All other gaming is done on my xbone (BF4 and Forza mostly)..
Any help appreciated.
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3788
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Posted - 2015.07.04 19:41:30 -
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You can pick up a 750 ti very cheap. You might want to update your CPU too.
Oh god.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3770
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Posted - 2015.07.04 20:10:17 -
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Houm, my computer is below your specs and runs 3 clients using memory-saving settings...
Intel Core 2 Q9300 @2.5Ghz 4 GB DDR2 GTX650 with 1Gb vRAM
...set shadows to "low" and no problem.
73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
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Xtreem
Echelon Research SpaceMonkey's Alliance
307
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Posted - 2015.07.04 20:13:09 -
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yeah while that's not modern I would have thought it could run client ok on lower settings :-/ make sure you every thing set to minimum and then slide them up till it goes slow again, but 1 client on minimum i would have thought would be fine, make sure your system has all the drivers it needs. |
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2015.07.04 20:43:36 -
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Martinius Tawate wrote:Hello.
I was just going to return to Eve Online, when I realized my computer could no longer handle the game.
I guess this is due to some updated graphics?
I do not have a good computer, but it was able to run it before.
It is: msi b75ma-p45 G2120 intel 8 GB DDR3 Nvidia GTX650
What I now hope is that it will run decently if I upgrade my Nvidia GTX650.
Will it be enough to update the graphic card? If yes, any recommendations to a card not so expensive? This computer is only used for Eve Online, reading newspapers and watch netflix and it`s like. Nothing else. Not so keen on buying too expensive parts just fort one game - however, if I have to..
All other gaming is done on my xbone (BF4 and Forza mostly)..
Any help appreciated.
Either this is a troll post or you're machine is compromised.
My e7200 (7 years old) with a Hd5770 1gb (6 years old) can handle 10 clients on low....
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Teinyhr
Ourumur
468
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Posted - 2015.07.04 20:49:46 -
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Yeah I would look into updating your drivers if you haven't already done so - my GTX560 Ti is only slightly faster than your GPU and I can run everything maxed just fine. That said lowering some options like the shadows might help also as a first aid.
All in all your rig seems similar to mine, again my i5-3450 CPU is only marginally better than your CPU, and as said, I can run everything maxed just fine. I would guess updating your Gfx card drivers will fix your problem though. |
Azusa Asara
Asara Corporation
11
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:12:32 -
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Your graphics card isn't the issue here, its your processor/Motherboard and possibly ram speed.
Low speed ram and a bad FSB could be causing a bottleneck.
I run with: Mid range Asus MB Intel Core i5 8GB 1600MHz Ram GTX 560 Ti
I run 3 clients maxed graphics (Minus AA) with no slow downs at +60fps. |
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:17:33 -
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Azusa Asara wrote:Your graphics card isn't the issue here, its your processor/Motherboard and possibly ram speed.
Low speed ram and a bad FSB could be causing a bottleneck.
I run with: Mid range Asus MB Intel Core i5 8GB 1600MHz Ram GTX 560 Ti
I run 3 clients maxed graphics (Minus AA) with no slow downs at +60fps. You know that would make some sense if eve actually required much in the way of hardware. I have 6-7 year old hardware that runs it very well.
His mobo/cpu and ram is fine it's something else that is seriously wrong. Eve doesn't require much in the way of CPU and RAM. It does hit the hard drive pretty hard in large battles though. |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
263
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:21:47 -
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Well, better change your hd with an SSD. You got enough RAM and 3GHz, that should suffice.
However, it depends how loaded you windows system is. A clean install might prove wonders. A fast videoboard might be no use, your CPU will be the bottleneck.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Xtreem
Echelon Research SpaceMonkey's Alliance
307
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:29:12 -
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La Rynx wrote:Well, better change your hd with an SSD. You got enough RAM and 3GHz, that should suffice.
However, it depends how loaded you windows system is. A clean install might prove wonders. A fast videoboard might be no use, your CPU will be the bottleneck.
a Norman HDD, even an old one runs eve fine, don;t be daft, in fact most of what you said is daft, not being rude but for one client his setup is fine and what you are suggesting is overkill. |
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Tyler Nietzsche
Weyland-Yutani Pan Galactic
89
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:36:23 -
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Turn of all effects. Select 90% UI. You'll get used to it in 1-2 months. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3789
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:38:51 -
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Tyler Nietzsche wrote:Select 90% UI. You'll get used to it in 1-2 months. Doesn't everyone use 90% UI anyway?
Oh god.
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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:41:03 -
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Xtreem wrote:La Rynx wrote:Well, better change your hd with an SSD. You got enough RAM and 3GHz, that should suffice.
However, it depends how loaded you windows system is. A clean install might prove wonders. A fast videoboard might be no use, your CPU will be the bottleneck. a Norman HDD, even an old one runs eve fine, don;t be daft, in fact most of what you said is daft, not being rude but for one client his setup is fine and what you are suggesting is overkill. Not to mention the CPU is nowhere near a bottleneck. I run 10 clients on a 7 year old dual core with little lag. What eve hits hard is the hard drive and if you're boxing the ram. |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
263
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Posted - 2015.07.04 21:44:48 -
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Xtreem wrote:La Rynx wrote:Well, better change your hd with an SSD. You got enough RAM and 3GHz, that should suffice.
However, it depends how loaded you windows system is. A clean install might prove wonders. A fast videoboard might be no use, your CPU will be the bottleneck. a Norman HDD, even an old one runs eve fine, don;t be daft, in fact most of what you said is daft, not being rude but for one client his setup is fine and what you are suggesting is overkill.
An old hdd might have hw errors. Does not matter if norman, steward or oscar. The 650 should be fine. SSD are gettting cheaper and boost old systems a lot, even when they have not SATA 3 or SATA 6.
So if the system SHOULD be alright, whats so "daft" with a stuffed windows installation?
You are rude and you are suggesting nothing.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Martinius Tawate
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.04 22:29:49 -
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Wow.
So much response. TY :)
Well, to elaborate, my computer was fresh installed today with win 8.1. All drivers updated of course.
I do not seem to be able to add the integrated graphic driver, checked it up and sure enough, since OEM setup (komplett.no put together their own solutions) this can sometimes be an issue according to Intel help service others have used about the same issue.
I do remember vague now that I had issue before as well. I think I then switched from using the gtx650 with the integrated solution and that was when it ran good for me. however this was in windows 8, and I actually had the driver for the integrated graphics.
This probably mean that my gtx card is having some sort of an issue? Do you think my computer is strong enough to run this game on a high setting if I buy a decent, still not too expensive card? Like the one sugested; 750 ti
Here is a link to the actual computer in question: https://www.komplett.no/product/777042 (all details is in English)
And again, thank you for taking the time. I do get to play, but all settings is on the lowest and it is still a bit slow. I can do some runs and some trading and such, but I won`t do danger right now, less alone a fight .. |
Mikhem
Taxisk Unlimited
286
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Posted - 2015.07.04 22:33:50 -
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EVE client has option in Display & Graphics called "Resource Cache Enabled". I would recommend activating this cache and then test if it runs more smoothly.
Mikhem
Link library to EVE music songs.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
10703
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Posted - 2015.07.04 22:53:19 -
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Martinius Tawate wrote: It is: msi b75ma-p45 G2120 intel 8 GB DDR3 Nvidia GTX650
Then your system is botched, that will run at best settings, even in CQ.
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Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
64
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Posted - 2015.07.04 23:01:08 -
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Martinius Tawate wrote:Hello.
I was just going to return to Eve Online, when I realized my computer could no longer handle the game.
I guess this is due to some updated graphics?
I do not have a good computer, but it was able to run it before.
It is: msi b75ma-p45 G2120 intel 8 GB DDR3 Nvidia GTX650
What I now hope is that it will run decently if I upgrade my Nvidia GTX650.
Will it be enough to update the graphic card? If yes, any recommendations to a card not so expensive? This computer is only used for Eve Online, reading newspapers and watch netflix and it`s like. Nothing else. Not so keen on buying too expensive parts just fort one game - however, if I have to..
All other gaming is done on my xbone (BF4 and Forza mostly)..
Any help appreciated.
You should run EVE fine with those specs imo. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
1794
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Posted - 2015.07.04 23:12:45 -
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My PC is worse than OP but then I cut it down to OS + EVE + nothing and trimmed the OS also.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow
Fozzie SOV is treating a symptom.
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HeXxploiT
Big Diggers Get Off My Lawn
160
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Posted - 2015.07.04 23:20:56 -
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Yeah OP your rig can easily handle eve. Something else going on. Run windows update to update your drivers or do so manually then check back. |
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Martinius Tawate
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.04 23:26:55 -
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TY all for the help.
You say I can run it on the highest settings, but then it just stutter when I go thru portals, and it hang up completely in hangar.
I have been explained now the integrated memory in my card is a bit short and that is why it ran smoother with the integrated card when I played before..
If I upgrade my graphic card to one with 2GB I will be able to run everything on full specs with no stutter. Makes sense to me as he showed me with different settings while we warped and went thru gates. It is clearly the gtx memory who is the bottleneck here.
Now I run on memory setting and enabled resource cache. I then could turn on HDR and post processing to low. Other than this it is standard memory settings.
I guess it is ok for now, but I think I will go for the 770 ti. Recommended me here and by my friend.
I can play and it looks good again.
Ty so much.
I guess - solved? |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
10704
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Posted - 2015.07.05 00:29:56 -
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Oh you have like an EVGA card don't you? Or something like it, eh? Those are stripped down for bargain pricing. Most of the Nvidia 650 cards have 2gb, all bells and whistles, bargain cards have less. Should still run, but not best setting on a 1gb card. Sure, I could see that stuttering on gates. I think there was an option to turn that off... I think, haven't messed with it since they put that into the game. But I believe 650 gtx 2gb is minimum for max settings now, factoring in it not being a bargain card. |
Martinius Tawate
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.07.05 00:46:30 -
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Webvan wrote:Oh you have like an EVGA card don't you? Or something like it, eh? Those are stripped down for bargain pricing. Most of the Nvidia 650 cards have 2gb, all bells and whistles, bargain cards have less. Should still run, but not best setting on a 1gb card. Sure, I could see that stuttering on gates. I think there was an option to turn that off... I think, haven't messed with it since they put that into the game. But I believe 650 gtx 2gb is minimum for max settings now, factoring in it not being a bargain card.
I guess the mystery are solved then.
At least I now play with decent graphics, and I will buy a better card soon.. |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
415
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Posted - 2015.07.05 00:48:17 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Tyler Nietzsche wrote:Select 90% UI. You'll get used to it in 1-2 months. Doesn't everyone use 90% UI anyway?
Is there some sort of advantage to doing this? |
Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1438
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Posted - 2015.07.05 01:58:17 -
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Martinius Tawate wrote:Well, to elaborate, my computer was fresh installed today with win 8.1. All drivers updated of course.
Spec wise it should run fine, given that you freshly installed windows I'd say it's 99% certain it's a driver issue like chipset drivers or audio or whatever.
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ReptilesBlade
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
72
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Posted - 2015.07.05 02:10:26 -
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Your PC must be seriously compromised. You need to reformat it or check your drivers ASAP. My PC is a 10 year old Dell XPS 410 that has been upgraded and it runs Eve on low-mid setting fine. It is still a 32 bit system for Gods sakes!
http://www.pcworld.com/product/29019/dell-xps-410.html
The good news is I will be updating my rig by the end of the year. |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
263
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Posted - 2015.07.05 05:45:57 -
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indeed, stuttering during session changes, points to low video memory. if this happens, the videoboard has to load new textures into its memory.
best solution is in fact a videoboard with more memory. anyhow, i am wondering, this system should handle on client just fine.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Mr Mac
Dark Goliath
70
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Posted - 2015.07.05 06:05:07 -
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My advise do not pick up nvidia x5x or below |
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2015.07.05 06:17:51 -
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La Rynx wrote:indeed, stuttering during session changes, points to low video memory. if this happens, the videoboard has to load new textures into its memory.
best solution is in fact a videoboard with more memory. anyhow, i am wondering, this system should handle on client just fine. I highly doubt it's running out of video memory. Like I said before I run an e7200 with a hd5770 1 GB card at max settings on one client without lag (1920x1080). Now once a fleet of 70 or ships start shooting at each other I start to lag and part of it is due to the hard drive. His graphics card is basically on par with the 5770 so it should provide similar performance. Unless he's trying to run at 4k in which case he is skimping in the wrong area.
What I think is wrong is he isn't running the proper driver for his card. He keeps talking about using integrated graphics which is NOT what the gtx 650 is.
You need to uninstall the intel HD graphics driver and properly install the Nvidia driver. Having both drivers installed can cause massive performance issues as the integrated graphics fights with the graphics card for control. Windows very well could be handing off to the integrated graphics once eve starts.
DO NOT rely on windows update to get you the proper driver for your graphics card. Doing so can cause all kinds of performance issues.
If you're worried about installing the proper driver for the card then just download the NVIdia geforce experience and let it handle the driver install. AFTER you completely uninstall the intel HD graphics driver stuff. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3790
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Posted - 2015.07.05 06:23:56 -
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Harrison Tato wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Tyler Nietzsche wrote:Select 90% UI. You'll get used to it in 1-2 months. Doesn't everyone use 90% UI anyway? Is there some sort of advantage to doing this? You can cram more stuff in.
Oh god.
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