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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.07.05 02:45:33 -
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So my friend did this. https://zkillboard.com/kill/47672575/
And i hear a lot of people say tristan and drones are OP.
Are they really OP? How does that happen? My friend said they offered to ransom him for 50mill but after dude payed the OP drones kept attacking.
After the patch tuesday will the tristan and drone nerf be enough to stop this from happening again?? |
Siegfried Cohenberg
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.05 03:07:37 -
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theres no nerfing ELITE SOLO TRISTAN PVP |
Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3033
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Posted - 2015.07.05 04:08:59 -
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Drones are uber boring because its all anyone does anymore. I'm glad the nerf is coming.
Holeysheet1 is afraid of thunderdome matches.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1181
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Posted - 2015.07.05 06:29:09 -
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It's that mysterious 'friend' again...
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Mag's
the united
19748
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Posted - 2015.07.05 06:47:42 -
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The true question is, why does the OP still have posting privileges?
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Valkin Mordirc
1201
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Posted - 2015.07.05 06:58:33 -
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Mag's wrote:The true question is, why does the OP still have posting privileges?
This.
and Zomg a tristian killed a **** fit stratios.
#Dronesnotbroken
#DeleteTheWeak
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10607
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Posted - 2015.07.05 07:15:41 -
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oh yeah , well i did this , without filling local with horrific capslock smack Or spending most of the night in a nebie system undock.
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Valkin Mordirc
1201
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Posted - 2015.07.05 07:21:35 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:oh yeah , well i did this , without filling local with horrific capslock smack Or spending most of the night in a nebie system undock.
That man should never be allowed to fly Tengu's again. He obviously just can't.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Lodestone Toyee
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2015.07.05 07:29:26 -
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If killing half fit ships in highsec made something OP, then all the nerfs should be directed at catalysts and thrashers. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10607
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Posted - 2015.07.05 07:33:07 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:oh yeah , well i did this , without filling local with horrific capslock smack Or spending most of the night in a nebie system undock. That man should never be allowed to fly Tengu's again. He obviously just can't. Actually that reminds me...
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2103
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Posted - 2015.07.05 07:46:26 -
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At Fox NEWS we don't just report the news, we make it with our alts.
Now, GTFO.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
260
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Posted - 2015.07.05 14:14:45 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:oh yeah , well i did this , without filling local with horrific capslock smack Or spending most of the night in a nebie system undock.
That doesnt show your remote repair alt on km. |
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
1821
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Posted - 2015.07.05 14:17:26 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Drones are uber boring because its all anyone does anymore. I'm glad the nerf is coming. As someone who enjoys the (over)power of drones, I agree. Systems that are both flexible and powerful at the same time need to be reigned in (cough T3s cough).
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.05 14:21:10 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:oh yeah , well i did this , without filling local with horrific capslock smack Or spending most of the night in a nebie system undock. That doesnt show your remote repair alt on km. I don't have a rr alt, ogb certainly but no rr.
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3038
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Posted - 2015.07.05 14:57:35 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Drones are uber boring because its all anyone does anymore. I'm glad the nerf is coming. As someone who enjoys the (over)power of drones, I agree. Systems that are both flexible and powerful at the same time need to be reigned in ( cough T3s cough).
T3's are offset by the skillpoint loss. Drones have zero negatives.
Holeysheet1 is afraid of thunderdome matches.
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Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
127
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Posted - 2015.07.05 15:25:22 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:Mag's wrote:The true question is, why does the OP still have posting privileges? This. and Zomg a tristian killed a **** fit stratios. #Dronesnotbroken
Haha my first though. Good god he has 2 empty mids, and was using T1 drones. Could he even fly 5 drones at once? |
Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
260
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Posted - 2015.07.05 16:06:49 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Drones are uber boring because its all anyone does anymore. I'm glad the nerf is coming. As someone who enjoys the (over)power of drones, I agree. Systems that are both flexible and powerful at the same time need to be reigned in ( cough T3s cough). T3's are offset by the skillpoint loss. Drones have zero negatives. T3 Destroyers have no skill loss and are basically fully insurable. .. |
Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3038
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Posted - 2015.07.05 16:09:00 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Drones are uber boring because its all anyone does anymore. I'm glad the nerf is coming. As someone who enjoys the (over)power of drones, I agree. Systems that are both flexible and powerful at the same time need to be reigned in ( cough T3s cough). T3's are offset by the skillpoint loss. Drones have zero negatives. T3 Destroyers have no skill loss and are basically fully insurable. ..
They also dont have 120k ehp.
Shouldn't you be packing?
Holeysheet1 is afraid of thunderdome matches.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24100
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Posted - 2015.07.05 16:58:17 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Leto Thule wrote:T3's are offset by the skillpoint loss. Drones have zero negatives. T3 Destroyers have no skill loss and are basically fully insurable. .. T3 historically refers to the tech 3 Strategic Cruisers, which do have SP loss.
T3 Destroyers are probably referred to as T3D or somesuch acronym.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
480
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Posted - 2015.07.05 20:01:09 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Bronson Hughes wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Drones are uber boring because its all anyone does anymore. I'm glad the nerf is coming. As someone who enjoys the (over)power of drones, I agree. Systems that are both flexible and powerful at the same time need to be reigned in ( cough T3s cough). T3's are offset by the skillpoint loss. Drones have zero negatives.
The fact that they are destroyable is a pretty big negative in certain situations. You can have most or all of your DPS removed in a 1v1 or 1vblob scenario by people tackling and primarying your drones, especially in a ship that doesn't have a 375/400m3 bay.
The problem of course is that this disadvantage becomes impossible to exploit the more drone boats are on field, or where you aren't able to kill the drones efficiently. Hence the ubiquitous "suddenly Ishtars." The two biggest disadvantages of drones, travel time and destructibility, go away due to numbers and sentries.
I am still sad though, I picked this game up a year and a half ago and quickly realized drones were the best weapon system in the game and also critical as a secondary DPS component on many hulls. So I bowed to the inevitable and started dumping SP into drones and their favored mother ships, the Gallente Vexor line. 7M of my 28M SP in them and NOW CCP decides they're too strong.
I am now trying to guess what I should train into that's not going to get hit with the nerf bat. I hear they're coming for T3's soon, specifically the Tengu.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
480
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Posted - 2015.07.05 20:09:32 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:So my friend did this. https://zkillboard.com/kill/47672575/And i hear a lot of people say tristan and drones are OP. Are they really OP? How does that happen? My friend said they offered to ransom him for 50mill but after dude payed the OP drones kept attacking. After the patch tuesday will the tristan and drone nerf be enough to stop this from happening again??
Funny mail. But I'm not sure this speaks to Tristans being OP.
Bulkheads, drone hp rig, bay full of T1 mediums, and unable to tank 140 DPS long enough to dock or jump gate.
Death by stupid is my verdict. 1 jump from a rookie system too.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1183
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Posted - 2015.07.05 21:50:04 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:oh yeah , well i did this , without filling local with horrific capslock smack Or spending most of the night in a nebie system undock. That doesnt show your remote repair alt on km. Funny I was thinking this doesn't show yours either
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
262
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Posted - 2015.07.06 01:07:21 -
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He had beams and t1 med drones. Was also neuted fast. Couldnt hit anything. And yeah 1jump from rookie but dude is almost 3years. |
Revis Owen
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
238
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Posted - 2015.07.06 13:58:55 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:1 jump from a rookie system too.
Rookie systems aren't general safe zones. Read the policy. Only newbros are protected, and then only if you're exploiting their lack of understanding of aggro mechanics.
Fair game in rookie systems: newbro WTs, newbros knowingly aggressing (not baited into it), and ALL non-newbros.
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Elenahina
agony unleashed Agony Empire
831
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Posted - 2015.07.06 15:09:31 -
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Never underestimate the triple neut Tristan is the lesson to be learned here.
We used to fly these for our Effed Up Friday roams, with generally hilarious results. Not only can a few of these take down a ratting battleship in short order, they're only a few million ISK, so you can buy a half dozen of them for the cost of one fitted assault frigate.
Tristan 4 Lyf
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
138
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Posted - 2015.07.06 15:11:20 -
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Revis Owen wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:1 jump from a rookie system too.
Rookie systems aren't general safe zones. Read the policy. Only newbros are protected, and then only if you're exploiting their lack of understanding of aggro mechanics. Fair game in rookie systems: newbro WTs, newbros knowingly aggressing (not baited into it), and ALL non-newbros.
You missed his point. He was just mentioning one jump from a rookie system to emphasise the point the guy might have been a little new. That said his char is actually three years old as mentioned and has no excuses from being unable to fend off a Tristan.
Stupid is as stupid does. |
Petre en Thielles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
177
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Posted - 2015.07.06 16:29:01 -
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Switch Savage wrote:
You missed his point. He was just mentioning one jump from a rookie system to emphasise the point the guy might have been a little new. That said his char is actually three years old as mentioned and has no excuses from being unable to fend off a Tristan.
Stupid is as stupid does.
That doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't new. A lot of people try to start EVE, quit because they can't get through the NPE, and resub years later with the same account. I know my main looks two years older than it really is for that exact reason.
Not making an excuse for stupid people, just saying the date the account started isn't always a great way to measure skillpoints or playing time. |
Revis Owen
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
238
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Posted - 2015.07.06 16:52:03 -
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Switch Savage wrote: You missed his point.
No I didn't. It's not my fault that his ambiguous writing, plus the natural assumption he looked at the KM, leads to my logical interpretation. :)
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
488
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Posted - 2015.07.06 21:36:38 -
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I confess I did not look at the player age but judged from the T1 drones and inability to kill a Tristan with a web and a 400m3 drone bay that he was a special kind of stupid and should not have been flying that.
Good for you putting him out of his misery. I've been struggling to get anyone that terrible to shoot at me lately. |
Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
154
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Posted - 2015.07.09 11:00:21 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I confess I did not look at the player age but judged from the T1 drones and inability to kill a Tristan with a web and a 400m3 drone bay that he was a special kind of stupid and should not have been flying that.
Good for you putting him out of his misery. I've been struggling to get anyone that terrible to shoot at me lately.
Thats twice you called the victim stupid. He's never been out of NPC corp, he's probably slugged it out on his own this entire time. Why not do something proactive and mail him a proper fit, or offer to take him out pvp just once. Sigh...
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