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Sinnish Saken
Abyssal Journey
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Posted - 2015.07.08 18:14:54 -
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Although the Ishtar is a fine vessel and more than capable of handling the null combat sites out in Gurista space I've decided to bring along another boat.
Currently I fly the Ishtar for primary dps and tank. The other box is in a Stratios for scout (covops), scanning, and relic sites when I come across them.
Ishtar is active shield tanked.
Stratios is where it gets a little interesting Highs - cloak, probe launcher, 2 neuts, 1 remote shield repper(needed for a short moment in the 8/10 site I completely recently) Mids - dual prop, cap booster, scram Lows - medium armor rep, hardeners, DDA, etc.
At the moment I'm not in a real corp so always exploring in hostile space.
Just curious if anyone had any better ship comps and/or fit comps. Anything specific to help with dual boxing (assisting drones) would be helpful too!
Thanks in advance
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
161
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Posted - 2015.07.08 20:54:42 -
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dual remote rep domis cos they cheap as chips are stupidly effective while being almost afkable.
Will gank for food
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Sinnish Saken
Abyssal Journey
23
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Posted - 2015.07.08 23:01:18 -
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Based on how much traveling I have to do as a solo pilot 2x anything above a BC sounds extremely slow and even risky(ier). Having the covops scout has been useful as well as having the ability to scrape loot from the Relic sites.
Ishtar or Tengu(which I have as well) + Stratios or booster T3 might be the only way to go without insane SP requirements (Black Ops)...and the price tag to boot.
Although a BS with a cloaky scout might work. Domi + RR Tengu? Is there such a thing? |
GordonO
Wide Open Throttle
133
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Posted - 2015.07.09 23:52:29 -
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HAM Tengu + drone proteus. Move proteus off warp in, drop sentries and assign to ham tengu. The proteus can be permanently left as claocky and carrying a mobile depo with cloak and interdict sub systems so you can switch it up.
I used to do something similar in a tengu with covert cyno and a sin. Mobile depo's are the best thing since sliced bread.. they should be carried at all times :)
... What next ??
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1086
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Posted - 2015.07.10 02:33:09 -
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GordonO wrote:HAM Tengu + drone proteus. Move proteus off warp in, drop sentries and assign to ham tengu. The proteus can be permanently left as claocky and carrying a mobile depo with cloak and interdict sub systems so you can switch it up.
I used to do something similar in a tengu with covert cyno and a sin. Mobile depo's are the best thing since sliced bread.. they should be carried at all times :)
I use Heavies for the rats and HAMs for structures. Flight time with HAMs seems to take about the same over all for me.
Second ship is a shield Loki sometimes or a Drone/Rail Proteus most times. Only *bad* issue with the Proteus has been neuts turning off my guns. The Tengu can still fire, as can the Loki. Loki tank kinda sucks and Loki DPS kinda sucks, but it's fitted and the pilot is skilled for probing, hacking, etc. Secondary DPS only.
Duel boxing back and forth: Tengu is shield tanked. Sometimes I look at the Proteus and THE SHIELDS ARE GONE! Then I realize it's armor tanked
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University Minmatar Republic
97
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Posted - 2015.07.15 03:50:06 -
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I use 2x 100mn AB VNIs with faction heavy drones.
But then, I'm not ninja ratting.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Rat Scout
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2015.07.15 10:18:00 -
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[Panther, Panther]
Damage Control II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Large Shield Extender II Large Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 100MN Afterburner II
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L [Empty High slot] Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster
Large Processor Overclocking Unit II Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Hornet EC-300 x5 Warrior II x5 'Augmented' Ogre x5 Barrage L x1800 Hail L x4135 Republic Fleet EMP L x1665 Nanite Repair Paste x500
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[Loki, rr]
Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Damage Control II Capacitor Power Relay II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Kinetic Deflection Field II Stasis Webifier II 10MN Afterburner II
Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster Gistum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Booster Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Federation Navy Inferno Auto-Targeting Light Missile I Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Federation Navy Inferno Auto-Targeting Light Missile I Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Federation Navy Inferno Auto-Targeting Light Missile I Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Federation Navy Inferno Auto-Targeting Light Missile I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration
'Augmented' Hammerhead x3 'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2 Federation Navy Inferno Auto-Targeting Light Missile I x5000 Loki Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier x1 Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration x1 'Yurt' Mobile Depot x1 Covert Cynosural generator
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Coolsmoke
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2015.07.19 14:28:58 -
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With the 'tar now rather more armour tanky from the extra low, you might want to consider a pair of spider armour 'tars since you're in Gurista space. The T2 RAR actually reps way better than its local counterpart - more rep and less cap, plus easier fitting. That said, the C-Types are even better:
[Ishtar, RarRarTar] Drone Damage Amplifier II x 3 Faction Kin Hardener T2 Therm hardener Damage Control II
Drone Navigation Computer II x 2 Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 200 50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Corelum C-Type Medium Remote Armor Repairer x 2 (about 18m each but worth it) Prototype Cloaking Device I Core Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Garde II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Vespa EC-600 x5 Ogre II x5
Cap Booster 200's
Medium Anti-Kin Pump I Medium Anti-Therm Pump I
You can run one RAR without the booster/MWD on for about 3 mins for a 650dps tank vs Guristas. This boat has a 1300dps burst kin/therm tank sustainable for about 2 mins. 1500+DPS from 10 Ogres With dual Drone Navs, an Ogre II becomes a monster: 0.74 tracking (better than Hammers) and a max Velocity of 3380 which is actually faster than an unbonused Hobgoblin II. Or go with twin ODLs and use Gardes - the point being that with a RAR armour tank setup, you have quite a few options open to you. It's a tight fit but if you're short on CPU even fitting a second Faction hardener will still have this boat costing about 240m - about the same as a fully T2 fitted Domi (and a lot more surviveable in null) |
Sinnish Saken
Koshaku Tactical Narcotics Team
24
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Posted - 2015.07.21 16:12:08 -
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The spider or RR fits seem to be the consensus here. 2xIshtar, 2xProteus, or Tengu/Proteus is what I'm considering for now.
Just curious, which tool are you using to find the DPS numbers for RR fits? EFT doesn't look to take that into account.
Also, why Ogre and not Wasp? I thought Gurista were weakest to kinetic, tracking/MWD speed must be the difference here. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1355
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Posted - 2015.07.21 17:20:25 -
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Sinnish Saken wrote:The spider or RR fits seem to be the consensus here. 2xIshtar, 2xProteus, or Tengu/Proteus is what I'm considering for now.
Just curious, which tool are you using to find the DPS numbers for RR fits? EFT doesn't look to take that into account.
Also, why Ogre and not Wasp? I thought Gurista were weakest to kinetic, tracking/MWD speed must be the difference here.
He should be using Wasps.
I personally do not bother with RR fits. You can do just fine using 2-3 of the same ship with local tanks.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1099
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Posted - 2015.07.22 15:10:16 -
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I think you'll find that a Tengu/Proteus combination really don't have room to fit RR. You would gimp the DPS or find yourself without a cloak fitted when things get hot.
Also medium RR won't have much range. Sometimes you need ships to spread out a lot. |
Coolsmoke
State War Academy Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2015.07.25 19:15:35 -
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Sinnish Saken wrote:The spider or RR fits seem to be the consensus here. 2xIshtar, 2xProteus, or Tengu/Proteus is what I'm considering for now.
Just curious, which tool are you using to find the DPS numbers for RR fits? EFT doesn't look to take that into account.
Also, why Ogre and not Wasp? I thought Gurista were weakest to kinetic, tracking/MWD speed must be the difference here.
In EFT's ship-fitting window, click on the Projected Effects button (bottom right). Then drag a RAR from the fitting window into the Projected Effects window, and you'll see the effect. Only modules with a remote effect can be dragged in here, but it's useful for setting up a pair of identical spider fits. You can also drag in eWar mods, environmental effects etc.
..And I apologise - you should indeed use Wasps. I was thinking Serpentis, dunno why! |
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