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Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.07.11 18:34:41 -
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Consider if its not time for another investment round.
Found a few new business opportunities to invest in, so we will once again be looking for investors. Depending on market we will be looking for up to 1,2t from investors.
Pick of investors will be done by date of pledge and size. I preferred to have as few investors as possible, as it gives less work for me. I will also likely try to fit in a few small.
Collateral will be in the hands of Chribba, and is agreed to be continuous reviewed to ensure that it's always more than the bond value. Chribba will confirm the collateral, once he has it secured. [Chribba has yet to confirm]
The bond will be built and repaid over stages, as items are secured, bought, sold and released.
For any questions and comments, please send me a mail.
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Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.07.11 18:35:23 -
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Bond info, size and investors
Bond info & size :
Planned size : max 1200b Current size : 0b
Investors :
Received : = 0b in total
Repaid : = 0b in total
Reserved : = 0b in total
== 0b in total
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Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.07.11 18:36:20 -
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Amounts need to be in full billions. Interest will be 18m per billion per each full period (30 days) - For easier accounting
In the event of a default, or lack of collateral, investors will be refunded their capital investment and accrued interest to that point it's possible. Any ISK after the liquidation will be taken be Chribba as extra payment. investors will get priority by time of investment, if need be, after Chribba's pay.
No fixed duration. Expected 2-3months. Cash out requests requires 14 days notice.
Periodically the bond will be lowered as I will buys back parts of the bond from investors. - If so, the interest payout will be for the full period for any started period.
Old bonds AE01 BOND 100b : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=185946 AE02 BOND _50b : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=252824 AE03 BOND _25b : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=301630 AE04 BOND 150b : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=320712 AE05 BOND 500b : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=343718 AE06 BOND 200b : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=364918 AE07 BOND 1000b : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=388677
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Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.07.11 18:37:12 -
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Droodid
Antec Enterprises
50
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Posted - 2015.07.11 19:35:53 -
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Is it 1.7% or 1.8%? The title says the former but the third post says the latter. |
Angelica Everstar
238
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Posted - 2015.07.11 19:53:25 -
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1,8 :)
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Droodid
Antec Enterprises
50
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Posted - 2015.07.11 21:34:10 -
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150b for me then! |
Belle Animosity
Cyberdyne Asset Management
0
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Posted - 2015.07.12 05:42:25 -
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Put me down for 40bn please |
Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
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Posted - 2015.07.12 07:44:50 -
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I'd like to be one of the smaller investors. Put me down for 5 billion ISK please. |
Ulisse Kromm
Italian Gentlemen's Society Care Factor
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Posted - 2015.07.12 08:19:37 -
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Very happy to see you again Angelica ;) i'm in for 75 bil as soon as chribba confirm collateral |
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Elizabet Forgrave
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.12 10:08:12 -
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I'll put down 10b if that's possible. Thanks :) |
Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.07.12 10:50:49 -
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All investment of 5+ b is welcome.
Investors will be return smallest first.
Once the bond is ready and approved, ISK will be transferred to Chribba as per last time.
I will contact Chribba later today for sorting the details for him again being the 3rd party.
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Droodid
Antec Enterprises
50
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Posted - 2015.07.12 14:29:07 -
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Where's flakeys for the last 920b? |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
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Posted - 2015.07.12 17:10:09 -
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Droodid wrote:Where's flakeys for the last 920b?
I never even had 920 B liquids .When i passed the 800 i started ''funding others fun'' as i wasn't playing any more .
That said i'll take 450 B Angelica .
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Magnu Stormhawk
Stormhawk Enterprises
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Posted - 2015.07.13 07:57:53 -
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I'll register my interest with 40 billion |
Aileen Morex
Morex Group Inc. Haven.
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Posted - 2015.07.13 10:02:03 -
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Morex Group will take 50 Billion once collateral is confirmed.
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Werewolf Attor
Italian Gentlemen's Society Care Factor
0
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Posted - 2015.07.13 10:27:18 -
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Glad to see you on the road again.... |
Giaele
Falling Stars The Volition Cult
0
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Posted - 2015.07.13 10:35:40 -
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Falling Stars will take 10 Billion once collateral is confirmed.
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Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.07.13 14:37:52 -
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Update :
It clearly looks like that the needed ISK can be raised \ o / Now I just need to sort out the contractors and get the final details sorted.
It will not be possible to use corp wallets or anonym wallets (see questions below), as it does not give a clear audit trail. Also as I can't fully eliminate the chance of "the wrong" person seeing the char's name, due to the number of people involved.
Depending on the contractors time plan, the bond will start. So until then, hold on to your ISK. Likely start days are some time later this week, start Aug. or late Aug.
ALL ISK pledges are FREE to cancel or change.
WHEN the time comes, transfer the ISK to Chribba and NOT me. Transfer the ISK from the toon, that interest and repayment needs to be done to.
Questions asked per mail :
1. Is the type(s) of collateral made known to (potential) investors? Never, as I wish to protect my trade secrets and business :)
2. How large is the safety margin of the collateral? That is for Chribba to determine. Usually it's between 110% to 130%, depending on collateral composition. I usually add my BPO collector and similar items, as added 'not' calculated collateral, just to add to the safe side.
3. "I didn't post on the market eve forum since I prefer discretion." That is perfect understandable. BUT as I cant guaranty your discretion when it comes to transferring the actual ISK, I can only suggest : Make a untraceable disposable alt, and transfer the ISK from that toon, and use it to communicate with, for this bond. That way you will have FULL discretion guarantied.
If you have more questions, feel free to ask here or per mail.
All the best ~Angel~
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
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Posted - 2015.07.13 16:44:21 -
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I won't be on this weekend though Angelica just so you know.
I'm driving to spain on saturday wich i'm going to try to do in one day but since i bruised my ribs and a few fingers last weekend , it was a good night out though , it might take two days and there is also potential bad internet once there but i should be able to log the laptop in somewhere .
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Lisa Vallino
Simian Advanced Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.14 13:21:48 -
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Lisa will invest 100 Billion once Chribba has confirmed. |
Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.07.15 21:40:52 -
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Hopefully I will be able to come with an update tmr, with a more detailed plan
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toejam12
AGM Incorporated Fidelas Constans
0
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Posted - 2015.07.17 12:25:28 -
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If there is still room I will take 65B. |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.07.17 16:34:16 -
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I've been trying to get in on a market investment for a while but just dumped over half my liquid isk into minerals yesterday. If you would consider taking a 1B investment count me in and let me know when to send it to chribba claus.
- Than |
Jade Deschain
3-I Area 42
0
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Posted - 2015.07.17 18:51:50 -
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200 Billion ISK
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Angelica Everstar
238
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Posted - 2015.07.17 20:44:26 -
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Ok. Better late than never, some people say...
Due to subcontractors time tables, and my own. Start day of bond has be move to mid August. So a little month from now. Chribba has comfirmed that he will be 3rd party. He will confirm in this thread, once the details are sorted. Likely in the coming week.
Damn you summer holidays for everything
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Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.07.17 20:48:24 -
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Thanatos Marathon wrote:I've been trying to get in on a market investment for a while but just dumped over half my liquid isk into minerals yesterday. If you would consider taking a 1B investment count me in and let me know when to send it to chribba claus.
- Than
Investments need to be of 5b+, which I hope you will be able to gather (regardless of taking part in the bond or not).
NO isk should be sent to Chribba, BEFORE he has confirmed and the start of the bond.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2015.07.18 10:08:37 -
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Quote: Collateral will be in the hands of Chribba, and is agreed to be continuous reviewed to ensure that it's always more than the bond value. Chribba will confirm the collateral, once he has it secured.
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In the event of a default, or lack of collateral, investors will be refunded their capital investment and accrued interest to that point it's possible. Any ISK after the liquidation will be taken be Chribba as extra payment. investors will get priority by time of investment, if need be, after Chribba's pay.
I'm interested in putting 30bil into this but have some questions first.
I'm a little unclear on the collateral / default procedures. On the one hand, it sounds like Chribba is not guaranteeing the actual cash value of the bond but only holding the, as yet unknown, collateral and then liquidating it in the event of a default. On the other hand, you mention that Chribba will be continuously reviewing the value of the collateral to make sure it is sufficient for the bond, in which case the easiest thing would be for him to just guarantee the bond value as he is taking on the responsibility for ensuring the collateral is sufficient.
If Chribba will not be guaranteeing the value of the bond then how will you aim to value the collateral? Typically, collateral for bonds is valued at fire-sale prices but I'm guessing at least part of the collateral here will be rare ships, which will have a comparatively low fire-sale price. Will you be happy valuing them at such a level or will you be looking for their full value to be booked? Finally, can you say something more about the continuous review of collateral? Is this so you can swap collateral in and out? If so, this will make things hard for investors who want to invest knowing what the collateral is. Or is this to allow additional security in the event of market fluctuations? In which case, wouldn't it be easier to use a conservative valuation of the collateral if it is the kind of volatile item that could lose considerable value in a 2-3 month period?
In short, if the bond value is not guaranteed, what will be the collateral, how will it be valued, and can you give more precise details of the programme for ongoing collateral valuation?
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Nightjester
Royal Black Watch Highlanders DARKNESS.
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Posted - 2015.07.18 10:13:55 -
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Put me down for 100b once the collateral has been confirmed. |
Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.07.18 12:13:34 -
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RAW23 wrote:... In short, if the bond value is not guaranteed, what will be the collateral, how will it be valued, and can you give more precise details of the programme for ongoing collateral valuation? In short : Bond value will be guaranteed.
Long : The collateral will be dealt with as per all past times, meaning. The aim is at ALL times, that in case of a default, the collateral can be sold within 1-2 weeks for more than investors are owed.
This is done by keeping an eye on the total "sales" value of the collateral, so that in case that the value starts to decrease below an accepted level (105%ish "firesale" value). More collateral can be added, or bond can be closed in time, so that investors ISK can always be covered.
The main reason for that I stat "aim", is that sometimes CCP/markets change the value of items greatly overnight. Be it trit, moon goo, BPOs, T2 or any other items. Therefor if any part of the collateral is an item that drops unsuspected much over night, there can be edge cases, where collateral for a shorter period can be low 100%. IF this happens, more collateral will be added, or bond will close, as stated above.
I really HOPE that I have explained this well enough, but I do find it hard to explain in text. So if anyone feels that it's unclear, please ask :)
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