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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
675
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Posted - 2015.07.12 09:28:06 -
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Two days ago Concord announced their plan to finally implement long waited and even feared sovereign changes on tuesday. We all know that great heretic, Max Singularity will launch his misguided campaign for imaginary right to claim the Imperial crown.
Silent Infinity's leader, our Most Serene High Lady and Canoness Raely has given me full mandate to put our alliance into state of war. Supplies are gathered as I speak, and dust is removed from our mining militia's reserve ships.
I, Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan III, high father of the Imperial Pharmacy, symbol of unchallenged victory, the world's most beloved hero, self proclaimed prophet, morninglord, golden mountain, carrier of the Heaven's light, teacher of pure faith, speaker of unquestioned truth, lion of the universe, vanquisher of all heretics, bane of the witches, the great miner and skilled industrialist, Ecumenical Patriarch of the Silent Infinity, Confessor of sins and many more impressive titles now declare two things:
1. Entire Providence is now under threshold situation. All our allies are required of enchanced vigilance so we can avoid foothold situation. Our course is clear; we must oppose the great heretic with all of our strength or face the annihilation at second time.
2. I call all our allies from the ranks of amarrian loyalists into our aid. You must help this region with all your might as we fend of the great heretic. This will hinder your goals in the fields of 24th Imperial Crusade, but never before we have seen an heretic like Max Singularity. He will haunt us until our last defenses fall, but we will not fall. We shall prevail. |
Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
675
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Posted - 2015.07.12 09:30:53 -
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http://i.imgur.com/dNZhehW.jpg |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1364
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Posted - 2015.07.12 11:32:34 -
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Vaari wrote:... I, Lord Vaari, earl of Sosan III, high father of the Imperial Pharmacy, symbol of unchallenged victory, the world's most beloved hero, self proclaimed prophet, morninglord, golden mountain, carrier of the Heaven's light, teacher of pure faith, speaker of unquestioned truth, lion of the universe, vanquisher of all heretics, bane of the witches, the great miner and skilled industrialist, Ecumenical Patriarch of the Silent Infinity, Confessor of sins and many more impressive titles now declare two things: ...
With that ability to blow your own horn I'm surprised you ever undock! |
Lord Kailethre
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
142
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Posted - 2015.07.12 12:11:53 -
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I still think it looks like the tentacles are coming out of you in that image.
Let me roll for a SAN check, too. |
Trii Seo
778
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Posted - 2015.07.12 13:02:20 -
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Hm, thought you'd be happier with the impending change.
I mean, you should be thankful to your Empress. It is her doing after all, isn't it.
The king is dead, long live the king!
Glory to Maximilian Singularity the Sixth, First of his Name!
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Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
195
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Posted - 2015.07.12 14:59:46 -
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You are in God's hands now Brother Vaari.
But the situation you face is not the fault of Max Singularity. It isn't even directly the fault of the Empress. This is reaction to yet another example of CONCORD's corruption. There is the heart of sin. That is your true enemy.
What if someone held a war and no one showed up?
I hope you and Max enjoy dancing on CONCORD's strings. Me? I'll continue my service independent of their corruption.
May God guide you in what are going to be your darkest days.
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1365
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Posted - 2015.07.12 15:06:32 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:You are in God's hands now Brother Vaari.
But the situation you face is not the fault of Max Singularity. It isn't even directly the fault of the Empress. This is reaction to yet another example of CONCORD's corruption. There is the heart of sin. That is your true enemy.
What if someone held a war and no one showed up?
I hope you and Max enjoy dancing on CONCORD's strings. Me? I'll continue my service independent of their corruption.
May God guide you in what are going to be your darkest days.
Don't be daft, war has nothing to do with God and is nothing more than two belligerents struggling for power. Only a defender attacked without cause can truly fight a just war, anything else is driven by greed and/or pride. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
1969
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Posted - 2015.07.12 17:01:27 -
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I see you came up with a few more titles for yourself Vaari.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
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Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
373
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Posted - 2015.07.12 19:33:25 -
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These will be testing times for Providence. As a former resident of that region myself, I can only attest to the firmness of the people's resolve. I will be inquiring with PIE's Admiralty Board on what we can do to assist. May His Light guide you, Lord Vaari and all of Providence's peoples, I know I will be helping to assist on a personal level where I can.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Goldfinch
House Rkard
91
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Posted - 2015.07.12 19:37:45 -
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Max Singularity behaves as if he was born in a vacuum. He has very little knowledge of our history and our traditions. He lays claim to false titles and Holdings. His campaign on Galnet against Empress and God Himself has been driven by his own petty need for self aggrandizing and fame.
Do not give the false prophet any sustenance by giving him the attention he craves. He has no religious, diplomatic, or political authority. He is a laughing stock even to those who say they bend the knee to his eminence, The Pope Who Wears No Clothes. It is not surprising to know that he has no executive or military powers in his own supporters's sovereignty block.
Max will be pushing a rock up a slope in Hell for eternity. He doesn't know it yet.
veiled and bound
my origin story (on R109)
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1150
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Posted - 2015.07.12 22:20:50 -
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Sinjin Mokk wrote:You are in God's hands now Brother Vaari.
But the situation you face is not the fault of Max Singularity. It isn't even directly the fault of the Empress. This is reaction to yet another example of CONCORD's corruption. There is the heart of sin. That is your true enemy.
What if someone held a war and no one showed up?
I hope you and Max enjoy dancing on CONCORD's strings. Me? I'll continue my service independent of their corruption.
May God guide you in what are going to be your darkest days.
And this is why CONCORD must be destroyed...?
Also : bwahahahaha ? |
Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
200
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Posted - 2015.07.13 01:47:36 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:Sinjin Mokk wrote:You are in God's hands now Brother Vaari.
But the situation you face is not the fault of Max Singularity. It isn't even directly the fault of the Empress. This is reaction to yet another example of CONCORD's corruption. There is the heart of sin. That is your true enemy.
What if someone held a war and no one showed up?
I hope you and Max enjoy dancing on CONCORD's strings. Me? I'll continue my service independent of their corruption.
May God guide you in what are going to be your darkest days.
And this is why CONCORD must be destroyed...? Also : bwahahahaha ?
Not destroyed per se, just taken daown a few pegs.
And no, not exactly "bwhahaha" statement. Yet.
Dark Amarr: Rumors!
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Sammie MacWinters
Dutch East Querious Company Phoebe Freeport Republic
30
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Posted - 2015.07.13 06:05:50 -
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I think you should focus on not destroying freighters full of slaves first. https://zkillboard.com/kill/47805224/ |
Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
380
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Posted - 2015.07.13 06:13:16 -
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I think your fleet commanders shouldn't bring freighters alongside a fleet with hostile intentions. I'm pretty sure CVA had no idea slaves were inside. Besides, what in God's name are you doing transporting slaves around anyways?
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Rytha Main
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
51
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Posted - 2015.07.13 07:26:25 -
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It appears that the Phoebe Freeport Republic has caught itself in a moment of extreme embarrassment, by redacting their previous statement?
Confirmed by the CVA: No knowledge of slaves aboard.
I echo Aspirant Onzo's sentiments. Were you simply careless, or using innocent slaves as fodder?
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Kalaratiri
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
656
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Posted - 2015.07.13 07:34:44 -
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Rytha Main wrote:It appears that the Phoebe Freeport Republic has caught itself in a moment of extreme embarrassment, by redacting their previous statement?
I believe the statement stands. The post in question seems to have been redacted in order to apply with the IGS's "no killmails" rules.
I am open to being corrected, however...
She's mad but she's magic, there's no lie in her fire.
This is possibly one of the worst threads in the history of these forums. -á- CCP Falcon
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iyammarrok
Virtually Anonymous Milk Of The Poppy
370
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Posted - 2015.07.13 08:18:26 -
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So... CVA don't know what a cargo scanner is? right?
Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1835
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Posted - 2015.07.13 08:51:24 -
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Combat ships do not carry cargo scanners as part of their standard loadout, Mr. Iyammarok. Your own kill record shows you yourself are quite aware of this fact, as I spotted no cargo scanners on any of your ships.
Deliberately sending a freighter loaded with innocent people into harm's way in order to discredit an adversary is a tactic used by such monsters as Nauplius. It is too bad that Phoebe Freeport Republic is not above such despicable attempts at creating public controversy.
"Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away."
-- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
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Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy Silent Infinity
678
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Posted - 2015.07.13 09:34:39 -
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Original message seems to be forgotten.
PIE and other amarrian loyalists outside the Providence block are called to our aid in our struggle against great heretic. |
Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
386
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Posted - 2015.07.13 09:42:17 -
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Vaari wrote:Original message seems to be forgotten.
PIE and other amarrian loyalists outside the Providence block are called to our aid in our struggle against great heretic.
And I have no doubts we will come to your aid, my Lord.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1153
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Posted - 2015.07.13 09:43:50 -
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While I can not comment on PFR confusing attempt at bringing a freighter full of slaves into CVA sphere of influence, I am also disappointed that CVA chose to shoot down said vessel without any more inquiry.
Surely, someone must have wondered what this weird display was all about, right... ? No questions asked in local ? |
Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
387
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Posted - 2015.07.13 09:50:49 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:While I can not comment on PFR confusing attempt at bringing a freighter full of slaves into CVA sphere of influence, I am also disappointed that CVA chose to shoot down said vessel without any more inquiry.
Surely, someone must have wondered what this weird display was all about, right... ? No questions asked in local ?
That would have been the case had PFR not come into a Diplomacy channel demanding a fight. That might have happened had PFR not fired upon Providence owned infrastructure. That might have happened had PFR not been on the Kill On Sight list for hostile actions. The fact remains PFR chose to bring that freighter with full intent, with a hostile aggressor fleet. For all CVA could tell, maybe it was transporting Sovereignty Blockade Units for lack of blockade runners?
Either way the pilots of the PFR purchased slaves, and held them in a freighter knowingly into territory that has declared their organisation hostile. They have no legal right under Amarr law to own or purchase said slaves, and basic human decency says you don't then ship those innocents out into harms way knowingly.
It's not CVA's responsibility to check they're not harming innocents when their damned region is being attacked left right and center and PFR went about this act with malicious intent to both the Providence armed forces and the innocent souls within that freighter. Any attempt to paint this otherwise is spin. I will pray for the souls of those lost lives.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1153
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Posted - 2015.07.13 09:51:10 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:I think your fleet commanders shouldn't bring freighters alongside a fleet with hostile intentions. I'm pretty sure CVA had no idea slaves were inside. Besides, what in God's name are you doing transporting slaves around anyways?
I thought those were used for outpost construction (again, I am not discussing what such a freighter was doing specifically there). |
Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
387
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Posted - 2015.07.13 09:53:40 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:I think your fleet commanders shouldn't bring freighters alongside a fleet with hostile intentions. I'm pretty sure CVA had no idea slaves were inside. Besides, what in God's name are you doing transporting slaves around anyways? I thought those were used for outpost construction (again, I am not discussing what such a freighter was doing specifically there).
Yes, freighters are deloyed for outpost construction, however this freighter was deployed into CVA territory, not PFR territory. It was there as my superior Lt Kernher stated as a way of attempting to discredit CVA. No one cargo scans freighters when they're in a hostile organisation, accompanied by a hostile aggressor fleet.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1153
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Posted - 2015.07.13 09:54:01 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:Lyn Farel wrote:While I can not comment on PFR confusing attempt at bringing a freighter full of slaves into CVA sphere of influence, I am also disappointed that CVA chose to shoot down said vessel without any more inquiry.
Surely, someone must have wondered what this weird display was all about, right... ? No questions asked in local ? That would have been the case had PFR not come into a Diplomacy channel demanding a fight. That might have happened had PFR not fired upon Providence owned infrastructure. That might have happened had PFR not been on the Kill On Sight list for hostile actions. The fact remains PFR chose to bring that freighter with full intent, with a hostile aggressor fleet. For all CVA could tell, maybe it was transporting Sovereignty Blockade Units for lack of blockade runners? Either way the pilots of the PFR purchased slaves, and held them in a freighter knowingly into territory that has declared their organisation hostile. They have no legal right under Amarr law to own or purchase said slaves, and basic human decency says you don't then ship those innocents out into harms way knowingly. It's not CVA's responsibility to check they're not harming innocents when their damned region is being attacked left right and center and PFR went about this act with malicious intent to both the Providence armed forces and the innocent souls within that freighter. Any attempt to paint this otherwise is spin. I will pray for the souls of those lost lives.
That is a lot of excuses that actually do not address my point sir, with all due respect... You are just trying to report the blame on PFR while to my eyes, it is widely shared...
Am I wrong ?.. If I am wrong, then I apologize... |
Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
387
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Posted - 2015.07.13 09:59:39 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:Lyn Farel wrote:While I can not comment on PFR confusing attempt at bringing a freighter full of slaves into CVA sphere of influence, I am also disappointed that CVA chose to shoot down said vessel without any more inquiry.
Surely, someone must have wondered what this weird display was all about, right... ? No questions asked in local ? That would have been the case had PFR not come into a Diplomacy channel demanding a fight. That might have happened had PFR not fired upon Providence owned infrastructure. That might have happened had PFR not been on the Kill On Sight list for hostile actions. The fact remains PFR chose to bring that freighter with full intent, with a hostile aggressor fleet. For all CVA could tell, maybe it was transporting Sovereignty Blockade Units for lack of blockade runners? Either way the pilots of the PFR purchased slaves, and held them in a freighter knowingly into territory that has declared their organisation hostile. They have no legal right under Amarr law to own or purchase said slaves, and basic human decency says you don't then ship those innocents out into harms way knowingly. It's not CVA's responsibility to check they're not harming innocents when their damned region is being attacked left right and center and PFR went about this act with malicious intent to both the Providence armed forces and the innocent souls within that freighter. Any attempt to paint this otherwise is spin. I will pray for the souls of those lost lives. That is a lot of excuses that actually do not address my point sir, with all due respect... You are just trying to report the blame on PFR while to my eyes, it is widely shared... Am I wrong ?.. If I am wrong, then I apologize...
You are wrong Ms Farel. Should CVA kindly ask every fleet thats shooting its structures what their intent is and what their ships are carrying? I'm not sure if you have some bias involved here but as I have stated numerous times PFR deliberately took that freighter out to die and CVA did the right thing by attacking the hostile fleet. If PFR declared their intentions and the contents of that freighter first, before shooting structures and forcing a rapid defence, investigations could have been carried out. I'd like to see anyone conduct a thorough cargo scan and investigation of intent when they're being shot at.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1153
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Posted - 2015.07.13 10:10:08 -
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I do not understand why you are trying to drag the discussion over the strategy that brought up PFR doing what they did.
And you still do not answer my point.... Why ? I just asked why something so obviously weird as this fleet was not noticed ?
Is that so hard to shoot down the fleet like it was done, but letting the freighter alive the time to ask for clarifications and inquiries ? |
Jev North
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
340
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Posted - 2015.07.13 10:16:07 -
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Maybe. From what I've understood so far, assuming the freighter was present as some kind of sane, strategic plan on the part of PFR was in fact a courtesy. |
Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1837
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Posted - 2015.07.13 10:16:53 -
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Ms. Farel,
As a NRDS entity, CVA already makes many allowances for free travel through their space. Non-KOS neutral entities are not fired on. If this freighter had not been KOS, it would have been able to pass unharmed. This is far more lenient than any other area of null security space, where anyone and everyone who is not a member of the alliance or coalition is destroyed immediately.
PFR were not one of those neutral entities allowed to pass safely. They were previously declared KOS to CVA. They knew they were KOS to CVA. Therefore, one of their transports moving into Providence is not given a second look, because the owning alliance of that transport has already been identified as an enemy of Providence.
Neutral entities are given the opportunity for clarifications and inquiries. Hostile entities are not. That is, after all, what "Kill on Sight" means, in no uncertain terms.
The fault on this incident lies with PFR willingly sending a passenger freighter into hostile territory, despite knowing what would happen to it.
"Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away."
-- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1153
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Posted - 2015.07.13 10:23:46 -
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Ms Kerhner,
You are telling me nothing new, really... I have been Providence Holder in the past, and had we made such a blunder, we would have made apologies and promises to do better next time, would have striven harder to better results, and not hidden behind our NRDS policy, which was a source of pride, but also humilty.
I have always admired CVA for what it stood for and what it taught me. I also can recognize that CVA sometimes lacks a bit in the field of diplomacy (for probably perfectly legitimate reasons, but they still remain excuses), and have always suffered from diplomatic cases that badly ended due to a certain inability to admit faults.
Jev North wrote:Maybe. From what I've understood so far, assuming the freighter was present as part of some kind of sane, strategic plan on the part of PFR was in fact a courtesy.
Ah, sorry to inquire, but... Who said it was sane or strategic...? |
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