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Pal Vandrefalk
NorthWest Hope
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Posted - 2015.07.14 09:49:11 -
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Hey all,
I have decided to start blitzing L3, but I have a few questions first:
1. LP/Isk conversion. I get this is main source of blitzing income, but my current corp (Fed Navy) has horrible conversion rate. I get it right, that best LP/Isk conversion at the moment is Caldari Navy and maybe also Imperial Navy? (quite important as my standings towards them are near negative, with Diplomacy trained)
2. Does individual agent have a roaster of missions or it is purely random? Several agents never gave me a mission, further than 1 jump away, while other can send me 3-4 jumps away.
3. And of course fit check. At current I fly this Myrmidon:
2x Drone Damage Amplifier II
2x Medium Armor Repair II
2x Rat Specific Hardener I
1x 50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
4x Cap Recharger II
4x 250mm Prototype Gauss Gun Antimatter M
1x Drone Link Augmenter I
2x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
1x Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump
5x Hobgoblin I
5x Hammerhead I
4x Garde I
5x Salvage Drone
I am currently training for T2 armor hardeners and drones, but I can also get T2 shield tank in a couple of days, if needed to crosstrain. Gunnery support skills is somewhat decent, while missiles skills are non-existent. Oh, and my budget for a blitzing ship, if needed is 100-150 million ISK.
4. Anything else important for blitzing a noob might forget?
Thanks for help in advance |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.14 11:45:16 -
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Go run the SOE epic arc in a thorax or something, then run level 3's for SOE. The LP conversion there is far better and more consistent than anything the rest of Empire has to offer.
Myrm is not the best choice. Can you fly a Brutix? Proteus? Vigilant? Tengu? Ishtar? anything other than a Myrm?
And my general advice to blitzing missions is... do them fast.
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Pal Vandrefalk
NorthWest Hope
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Posted - 2015.07.14 11:50:03 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Go run the SOE epic arc in a thorax or something, then run level 3's for SOE. The LP conversion there is far better and more consistent than anything the rest of Empire has to offer. Myrm is not the best choice. Can you fly a Brutix? Proteus? Vigilant? Tengu? Ishtar? anything other than a Myrm? And my general advice to blitzing missions is... do them fast.
Oh, good. My SOE standing is 2.5, it will take just a few hours. What's worth taking from their LP shop? And from that list or ships - only Brutix so far, maybe Navy Brutix, after day or two of missioning. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.14 11:53:17 -
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Pal Vandrefalk wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote:Go run the SOE epic arc in a thorax or something, then run level 3's for SOE. The LP conversion there is far better and more consistent than anything the rest of Empire has to offer. Myrm is not the best choice. Can you fly a Brutix? Proteus? Vigilant? Tengu? Ishtar? anything other than a Myrm? And my general advice to blitzing missions is... do them fast. Oh, good. My SOE standing is 2.5, it will take just a few hours. What's worth taking from their LP shop? And from that list or ships - only Brutix so far, maybe Navy Brutix, after day or two of missioning.
Honestly my Gallente only alt uses a Vigilant with rails... I know I know. But the name of the game here is fast warp speeds to get to your missions and get back to your agent, along with long range damage projection.
We don't want to rely on drones for primary damage because they are delayed damage, and we don't really want to use a BC because they warp slow. But a triple warp speed rig Brutix can put out 500+ dps at range and get you to your mission in reasonable time.
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erg cz
ErgoDron
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Posted - 2015.07.14 12:30:17 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote: Proteus? Vigilant? Tengu? Ishtar? anything other than a Myrm?
The thread is named "Newish player". Still advise T3 ships?
King of L3 blitz is Machariel. But it will take long way to be able to fit and fly one.
Myrm is OK for L3. But since you are new, I doubt you have racial battle cruiser skill at 5. So why not use Gnosis? It is the "newish player" ship after all... You get ability to fit medium micro jump drive (aka GTFO button if triggers went wrong), you have all bonuses as if you have racial BC hull at 5...
Federation Customs and similar has better LP/ISK ratio. Roden Shipyards and similar even better. Best are SoE or some other non-gallente corps in gallentian space.
Use factional drones untill you can use T2 drones. Drop second armor repairer (you have hull bonus) and put Drone damage amplifier instead of it. |
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:36:40 -
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Remember "blitz" is about getting through a mission as quickly as possible, killing, destroying and looting only those thing you must to complete the mission and ignoring everything else. Another way to put this is speed is everything in blitzing and anything that slows you down is costing you ISK. The major portion of the ISK in a blitz comes from using LP and some ISK to buy stuff from the LP stores and then selling it on the markets, your mission payouts and bonuses. Fooling around with the loot and salvage from the destroyed ships only slows you down and that cost you more ISK than you can make with this stuff.
So here are my thoughts since the others have covered the ship and fitting aspect pretty well.
There are no missions that I am aware of that require the use of salvage drones to complete so drop the salvage drones and the Garde they are only slowing you down.
Salvage drones because you have to waste time in the pocket while they do their thing instead of moving on to the next pocket / mission. If you have them out instead of combat drones then you are slowing yourself down because drones are the Myrm's major damage dealers.
Garde because they are sentry drones. Even at max skills you will get more damage from a squad of mediums than you will from the few sentry drones you can use, and sentry drones waste time because they are stationary in space once launched. This means you have to stay where they are or go back and get them either of these wastes time.
Replace the Garde with extra light and mediums in case you lose one in a mission. Or armor repair bots so you can repair your drones in space if needed.
You need this or a site similar to it so you know what you must do to "blitz" each mission. It will help with tank and gank choices as well. http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=missionreports
Overall I do not recommend you undertake a blitz mission style until you can fly a full tech 2 fit and here is why.
Tank - blitzing a mission and tanking the damage that is a part of that can be difficult for a T1 fit BC in many level 3's, in some it is nearly impossible if you have to little tank then you must warp in / out or kill enough to allow you to stay in the pocket and that slows you down.
Gank - T1 drones have the lowest DPS and that slows you down. True faction drones can overcome much of that but they can be expensive to buy so they may not be an option.
Last thought. While you finish your training for a full T2 fit I would suggest that you adopt a full clear with loot / salvage play style. With a T1 fit and low support skills this can and often does make more ISK than trying to blitz missions.
Even better yet is a combination approach. Even now there will be some missions you can easily blitz so do that. Those that you cannot easily blitz use the full clear loot / salvage option. |
Pal Vandrefalk
NorthWest Hope
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Posted - 2015.07.14 14:54:59 -
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erg cz wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote: Proteus? Vigilant? Tengu? Ishtar? anything other than a Myrm?
The thread is named "Newish player". Still advise T3 ships? King of L3 blitz is Machariel. But it will take long way to be able to fit and fly one. Myrm is OK for L3. But since you are new, I doubt you have racial battle cruiser skill at 5. So why not use Gnosis? It is the "newish player" ship after all... You get ability to fit medium micro jump drive (aka GTFO button if triggers went wrong), you have all bonuses as if you have racial BC hull at 5... Federation Customs and similar has better LP/ISK ratio. Roden Shipyards and similar even better. Best are SoE or some other non-gallente corps in gallentian space. Use factional drones untill you can use T2 drones. Drop second armor repairer (you have hull bonus) and put Drone damage amplifier instead of it.
Thanks. Well, I did got the Gnosis and fitted it with shield tank, hybrids and DDAs. It outdamages Myrm at my skills, and tank is slightly worse than Myrm (That said I can fill all T2 shield tank in 3-4 days). Good ship and maybe I will find a use for that scanning bonus while getting SOE Rep/ waiting for T2. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:50:51 -
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erg cz wrote:Market McSelling Alt wrote: Proteus? Vigilant? Tengu? Ishtar? anything other than a Myrm?
The thread is named "Newish player". Still advise T3 ships? King of L3 blitz is Machariel. But it will take long way to be able to fit and fly one. Myrm is OK for L3. But since you are new, I doubt you have racial battle cruiser skill at 5. So why not use Gnosis? It is the "newish player" ship after all... You get ability to fit medium micro jump drive (aka GTFO button if triggers went wrong), you have all bonuses as if you have racial BC hull at 5... Federation Customs and similar has better LP/ISK ratio. Roden Shipyards and similar even better. Best are SoE or some other non-gallente corps in gallentian space. Use factional drones untill you can use T2 drones. Drop second armor repairer (you have hull bonus) and put Drone damage amplifier instead of it.
Yeah it takes less than 6 months to train a racial path for T2 fit Proteus/Deimos/Vigi
6 months is what I consider Newish.
Blitz is about DPS and speed, warp speed. Proteus has insane warp speed and great dps. T2 Cruisers would give you decent speed and again, DPS.
Gnosis, sure its ok, but for level 3's you need... you guessed it, speed and dps.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.07.14 15:57:00 -
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Brutix->Demios->Proteus (Rail Tengu is a bit better but Prot is a natural progression)
Projection is almost as important as DPS and warp speed.
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Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:36:25 -
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Wasn't this answered in detail in another thread? |
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Orlacc
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:41:16 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Wasn't this answered in detail in another thread?
Or a hundred.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.07.14 18:52:14 -
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I do level 3 missions in a Blaster Harpy assault frigate.
I found a battlecruiser to be too slow, and less engaging. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.14 19:04:37 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:I do level 3 missions in a Blaster Harpy assault frigate.
I found a battlecruiser to be too slow, and less engaging.
Well you CAN do lvl3's in a ceptor if you really wanted to. I just wouldn't recommend it.
P Llyod is 100% correct, and the link to the pertinent information is all you need.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2015.07.14 20:08:38 -
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imo find a corp that sells federation navy stasis webifier 5 run blueprints. they have a few other bpcs that are probably worth looking into as well, although the volume on those might not be so favorable. All the Navy stores have the same items as the FW stores, so their conversion rates are all pretty bad. The only reason I can think of for running for a navy corp is caldari navy as that gives standings for trading in jita.
the other consideration is you want an agent in a 0.5 system in a constellation that doesn't have any lowsec systems. I haven't done lv3s in a while so I'm not too sure how far they try to send you, but I'd be wary of the soe lv3 agent as it is in a constellation of mostly lowsec systems. maybe it works out and you can decline the lowsec missions and not worry about it, but I'd look for something else. Plus SoE is heavily farmed.
also sentry drones are fine. for most lv3s you want to warp in, blap a few things, then warp out. sentry drones are perfect for that. the biggest problem with the myrm, is that it doesn't have room for multiple sets of sentries. in some missions it is nice to have long range drones available. I would also suggest getting faction sentry drones. cost a bit more, but have good performance and you probably shouldn't be losing them.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.07.14 20:15:34 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:but I'd be wary of the soe lv3 agent as it is in a constellation of mostly lowsec systems. I have an alt running over there, if all you are going to do is grind missions all day long it might be a problem, but IME, I am ready to do something else before a second mission comes up in the queue that sends you to low sec. Once you get your standings high enough it doesn't really matter either way.
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:also sentry drones are fine. for most lv3s you want to warp in, blap a few things, then warp out. I wouldn't go as far as to say most. There are quite a few, but there are also many where you need to go to a second or third room. Sitting in one place while you clear the room and then moving to the gate is very inefficient if you are trying to blitz.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2015.07.14 20:51:58 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Chainsaw Plankton wrote:but I'd be wary of the soe lv3 agent as it is in a constellation of mostly lowsec systems. I have an alt running over there, if all you are going to do is grind missions all day long it might be a problem, but IME, I am ready to do something else before a second mission comes up in the queue that sends you to low sec. Once you get your standings high enough it doesn't really matter either way. Chainsaw Plankton wrote:also sentry drones are fine. for most lv3s you want to warp in, blap a few things, then warp out. I wouldn't go as far as to say most. There are quite a few, but there are also many where you need to go to a second or third room. Sitting in one place while you clear the room and then moving to the gate is very inefficient if you are trying to blitz.
fair enough, and in that case if you are running missions all day your standing gains should vastly outstrip any losses due to additional declines. Plus all the SoE storyline agents are in corp so that should also help protect your standings.
in most of those cases you can drop lights/meds and MWD over to the gate. not one of those things I'd be too worried about when starting out, but when you get your skills up something to be aware of for sure, and by that point probably worth switching to something other than a myrm.
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Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.07.14 22:35:37 -
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myrm is good at blitzing if you cna use sentries. Otherwise something with longer range guns like the ferox usually win out on this kind of thing since level 3s are more about killing things as quickly as possible rather than pushing DPS or tanking incoming damage |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2015.07.15 07:52:06 -
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if your main focus is going to be isk/hour L3's are not where it's at.
you really need L4's
take some time, do a little focused training (for a L4 blitzer) then go nuts on your wallet padding
have some fun in the meantime work later
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Pal Vandrefalk
NorthWest Hope
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Posted - 2015.07.15 10:52:56 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:if your main focus is going to be isk/hour L3's are not where it's at.
you really need L4's
take some time, do a little focused training (for a L4 blitzer) then go nuts on your wallet padding
have some fun in the meantime work later
Or in another words - get started on Mach/Rail Tengu skill set? Or MJD Sentry Domi is half decent? (Maybe Ishtar, but I don't know how to fit it half-decently after recent slot layout change). |
Etara Silverblade
Morex Group Inc. Haven.
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Posted - 2015.07.15 12:06:45 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:if your main focus is going to be isk/hour L3's are not where it's at.
you really need L4's
take some time, do a little focused training (for a L4 blitzer) then go nuts on your wallet padding
have some fun in the meantime work later
i'm not sure you're right about this. L3's can be run much faster then L4s and L4s don't give enough LP to make them worth it. If you are blitzing missions you are going after LP and/or standings not pure isk. If you want to make isk on L4s you need to kill everything and loot/salvage the better missions. L3s can be blitzed faster for pure LP and standings gain.
For a new player, L3s work out even better cause you can run them faster then you could do L4s.
As for missions, if you are running L3s for Fed Navy then you should have standings for L3s missions with other Gallente corps. Do the work yourself, figure out which corp has the best item, ship, implant that makes you lots of isk and run L3s for them. The more LP an item costs the better your conversion so store up the LP and get high value items.
For Blitzing go with DPS and speed. Gallente drone boats rock when it comes to fast missions cause you can send the drones one way and fly the other way. Myrm is good, so is vexor navy issue. Train up to T2 drones and forget shields when flying Gallente, they can wait.
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2015.07.15 15:37:32 -
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The isk/hour benefit from L4's mostly comes from the LP conversion into ISK
Of course it's all dependant on the items available in the LP store of your chosen corp SoE has the Launcher & Probes which still gives excellent rations despite their popularity people generally keep quiet about excellent store conversions .. for obvious reasons
of course all this is just my opinion hence the penultimate line in my op.
I have no solid numbers to back anything up but I believe both L4's and FW are more isk efficient than L3's after taking LP conversions into account feel free to post reliable data that proves me wrong I don't mind being wrong |
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2015.07.15 23:23:38 -
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The difference of running L3 for LPs, or running L4s for LPs, really depends on how much time and effort you want to use.
For example:
Let's say I run a L4 mission in my Golem, I only have time to run one mission, and let's say it takes about 30min. In that 30 min, the LPs, at max, might be about 8900. For my agent, 8900 is about the most I can get.
Instead of running one L4, let's say I want to BLITZ some L3s in my Tengu. LPs in L3s can run from about 500 to 1800. It's all in the luck of the draw of what missions you get.
I'm going to have to run a lot of L3s to make 8900 LPs in that 30min.
So does a person just sit back, run one L4, collect 8900 LPs, plus bounties, or do I run, with my hair on fire, back and forth to my agent or agents several times, collecting much smaller amts of LPs and bounties?
Will I be lazy, or run about like a maniac? Depends on my mood.
It is something to consider though.
-Kirst
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.16 05:10:49 -
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Ion Kirst wrote:The difference of running L3 for LPs, or running L4s for LPs, really depends on how much time and effort you want to use.
For example:
Let's say I run a L4 mission in my Golem, I only have time to run one mission, and let's say it takes about 30min. In that 30 min, the LPs, at max, might be about 8900. For my agent, 8900 is about the most I can get.
Instead of running one L4, let's say I want to BLITZ some L3s in my Tengu. LPs in L3s can run from about 500 to 1800. It's all in the luck of the draw of what missions you get.
I'm going to have to run a lot of L3s to make 8900 LPs in that 30min.
So does a person just sit back, run one L4, collect 8900 LPs, plus bounties, or do I run, with my hair on fire, back and forth to my agent or agents several times, collecting much smaller amts of LPs and bounties?
Will I be lazy, or run about like a maniac? Depends on my mood.
It is something to consider though.
-Kirst
Yes and no... There is far more multi-agent stations for lvl3 then there is for lvl4
It takes on average 3:30 to run a lvl3 and 24m to run a lvl4 from what I have done... therefore I can run 7 lvl3's in the time it takes to run 1 lvl4. That is undock to dock... now if I were to run Suroken or Halle or Nog or any of the tripple agent systems... I hope you are getting the point.
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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2015.07.16 09:32:54 -
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Market,
I've BLITZed my L3 missions out of Suroken. So even though there are 3 L3 agents there, you still are stuck with what they offer, the luck of the draw. With that, you are also stuck with the LPs they offer, which could be on the low side.
I also know very well how long it takes to BLITZ L3 missions. (I matched my times in a Tengu against Stoic's Mac, and beat almost all of his times.)
What was your point? You run 7 L3s in 30 min. -easily done. But that means you are averaging 1200 LPs per mission? Good luck with that one, because that is not going to happen. If you have to decline missions hoping to get a higher LP mission, then you still may not get what you want. Then you're stuck with what is offered. If you have to race over to another system, then you just wasting time.
You also could get 5 missions in a row that offer 1800LPs, but that's not going to happen either.
I will BLITZ some missions later, and thru the luck of the draw, see what I get, and what I can do in 30 min. I may even do it a few times just to get a good average. I will post my results.
You didn't get my point.
-Kirst
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2015.07.16 18:46:20 -
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suroken is a 0.7 so first the LP isn't great, and second it is CN LP which is more or less worthless. I have 1.1m+ lp with a similar store that I just cba to cash out on. Maybe if I was running lv5s and getting 70k lp/mission...
as far as lv4s go, burner (pirate and team) missions are 5-10 mins for 150% max lp and 10mil bounty, the burner bases are a little longer, but have 15-20mil bounty. and out of the missions I accept 6 mins is a long one (hint, void blaster kronos, or warp speed rigged arty mach). the isk or lp usually aren't as good, but they keep my standings good.
if you are doing like 500 dps and taking 30 mins for a mediocre mission making 4000 lp, then yea you are probably better off in lv3s where you can do 5 in the same time and make more lp.
I'll admit I made the jump too fast, then again if I didn't have to waste a mil or w/e sp on learning skills I would have probably been better off.
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:30:40 -
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Drone boats don't blitz well, if you use sentries you cant move and if you use other drones there is travel time. You need something like a mach that does good dps at range and is fast, you also get a spare high in a mach for the times you need to grab something that has dropped and can be aligned out while you grab the cans. And yes a mach can blitz even lvl1's
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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2015.07.17 12:32:59 -
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Well, I was wrong.
I ran two L4 missions last night. They took about 27 min., and I made about 9300 LPs.
I then ran L3s for about 27min. The LPs varied between 450 and 2200. I think the total LPs was about 8800.
Close enough.
The missions were by luck of the draw in both instances.
I will post the actual numbers later, when I get home and edit this post.
Still, running that many L3s in a row is hectic. It's hard to keep that pace up, and that's what I was talking about.
-Kirst
Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
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Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.17 13:51:36 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:The isk/hour benefit from L4's mostly comes from the LP conversion into ISK
Of course it's all dependant on the items available in the LP store of your chosen corp SoE has the Launcher & Probes which still gives excellent rations despite their popularity people generally keep quiet about excellent store conversions .. for obvious reasons
of course all this is just my opinion hence the penultimate line in my op.
I have no solid numbers to back anything up but I believe both L4's and FW are more isk efficient than L3's after taking LP conversions into account feel free to post reliable data that proves me wrong I don't mind being wrong
FW missions will net you more LP per hour. However, all the missions are in lowsec and a beacon lights up for all to see when you warp to the mission. Lvl 5 missions will net you even more if done right, but they are also in lowsec. |
Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2015.07.18 00:18:00 -
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Well, now I'm right . . .
Ran a few more L3s, and pickings weren't so ripe this time.
As I said, everything is in the luck of the draw.
So again, I'm trying to do as many missions as possible in about 27min. and earn 9744 in LPs for that is what my Golem did.
Numbers didn't come out as good as the first time, but I feel this is more typical:
Tengu did 9 L3 missions in about 29 min. After the 8th mission, the timer was at 26m40s, and I only had earned 3676 LPs. So I ran one more, for a total of 4875.
Success Comes at a Price, 416 LPs; Eliminate the Pirate Campers, 840 LPs; What Comes Around, 500 LPs; Silence the Informant, 1620 LPs; The Good Word, 1090 LPs; Stop the Thief, 487 LPs; Driving a Wedge 1 of 2, 1148 LPs; Driving a Wedge 2 0f 2, 2041 LPs; Lights Out, 1199 LPs.
So now you can see a drastic difference of comparing L3s to L4s.
I don't think I have to do any more, the numbers speak for themselves, and your always allowed to interpret them in any way you wish.
-Kirst
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.07.18 00:31:21 -
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OK now run them with the skills OP has, and see what you can do.
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