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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2038
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Posted - 2015.07.16 14:00:52 -
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I was at work but still...
MAH ISK TICKS missed. |
Miomeifeng Alduin
Lithonauts Inc.
101
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:04:20 -
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Viruk Johnny wrote:Barrogh Habalu wrote:Viruk Johnny wrote:I thought that CCP makes money by people paying for subs? And by selling PLEXes. So it's not like you creating demand for PLEXes is less valuable than paying subs directly. Maybe it wouldn't if not for the fact that PLEX is also the most expensive way to buy game time. Well yeah, but I meant that CCP makes money from people that put their credit card on the table to buy either game time or PLEX, not by people sitting in anoms for few hours to play for in-game moneyz.
Indirectly, they still pay. It's just someone else who pays for their subscription. PLEX isn't seeded by CCP but bought by players who sell it, so each PLEX which gets used is actually worth a bit more than the monthly sub to CCP. |
Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
928
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:13:46 -
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Viruk Johnny wrote:Well yeah, but I meant that CCP makes money from people that put their credit card on the table to buy either game time or PLEX, not by people sitting in anoms for few hours to play for in-game moneyz. People who sit in anoms for few hours to play for in-game moneyz are the reason other people put their credit card on the table to buy PLEX. Without the former there wouldn't be latter. So they still make money for NPC, arguably more because of PLEX IRL price compared to subscription price and the fact that ISK-rich players may sometimes hoard PLEX, making amount of money they bring to CCP per month of their bought game time even more than those who simply PLEX for time or pay sub.
Sure, they can't do that without those actually pulling a credit card, but without demand for PLEX that can't happen as well. |
Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
767
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:18:31 -
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Space Frog wrote:As the unscheduled down-times occur more often nowdays, will CCP compensate the lost time in any form?
Like free SP for skills or training boost or free 5 days of gameplay???
How exactly were you planning to compensate me for my time and lost faith in humanity after reading your post? |
Minmatar Citizen 534612187
Citizen Corp.
48
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:19:55 -
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I don't understand how people can be actively paying for a service, not have access to said service, and then be called entitled when wanting some sort of compensation for the service they're paying for, but not getting. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Miner's House of ill repute
988
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:22:50 -
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Minmatar Citizen 534612187 wrote:I don't understand how people can be actively paying for a service, not have access to said service, and then be called entitled when wanting some sort of compensation for the service they're paying for, but not getting. Because they aren't entitled to a refund whatsoever and it is extremely childish and silly to demand half of 25c compensation, which costs CCP multiple tens of thousands.
No one deserves compensation and no one is entitled to one. If you believe otherwise, you've entitled yourself to it.
Clear now?
CCHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2040
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:24:09 -
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Minmatar Citizen 534612187 wrote:I don't understand how people can be actively paying for a service, not have access to said service, and then be called entitled when wanting some sort of compensation for the service they're paying for, but not getting.
Care to link the part of the TOS or EULA where it is written reimbursement will be given for downtime?
If it's not there contractually, asking for it is acting like an entitled person. Saying thanks if they do give something in good faith is acting normally according to the agree upon contract. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
22409
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:28:45 -
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Quote: Compensation for lost days and time
Coffee related monitor failure right.. about.. there.
Get out, and on your way out, contract me all of your stuff.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Minmatar Citizen 534612187
Citizen Corp.
48
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:30:45 -
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Oh, I get it.
Because the EULA says that no one gets a refund, it's a totally ok and not scumbaggy thing for a company to do. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I
1049
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:32:54 -
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Dersen Lowery
Scanners Live in Vain
1709
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:34:24 -
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I'm willing to bet that I've had more things comped by being entirely polite and understanding of the fact that **** happens, then you have by demanding and complaining.
Well, maybe unless you're dealing with outright jerks like the cable company--even then, I'm nice to the flunky on the other end of the line, because it's not their fault. But CCP aren't the cable company. Every interaction I've had with them has been positive.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
I voted in CSM X!
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Globby
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE.
68
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:47:16 -
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1 billion skill points please |
Tyler Startide
Furor Teutonicus Lux Aetherna
5
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Posted - 2015.07.16 15:49:27 -
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As many others already said: It's a couple hours you missed worth a couple cents. This money isn't even worth the time you took writing this thread. Sure it would be nice if CCP decided to give the players something of some kind for the inconvenience. But they don't have to and this is okay. It's something that can happen and asking or even demanding anything from CCP for those 25 cents you lost is just a douche move. |
Jacques d'Orleans
The Scope Gallente Federation
369
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:07:56 -
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I demand a compensation, too! The 25 cents CCP owes me, shall be delivered personally by CCP Seagull and CCP Puncturis. And they have to deliver it by walking to here! Water isn't an excuse, the other guy did it already some 2000 years ago! A Pizza and a 25 gallon keg of mead would also be appreciated!
TL;DR: Compensation my arse! Get a grip, man!
Edit 1: IBTL Edit2: Your stuff, have it, can i? |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24274
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:13:59 -
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FTFY
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
416
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:27:47 -
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Sigh.. i hate entitled people. Server offline for half a day. Demands 5 days of compensation.. really? Seriously, the people demanding compensation must be children with no jobs, or have been handed everything to them their whole life. Apparently have never had a job and never realized **** happens that is out of our control. Suck it up, and go get laid for those 12 hours the server was down.
Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role
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Amber Harrington
Space Ants Independent Operators Consortium
15
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:34:54 -
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Viruk Johnny wrote:War Kitten wrote:Space Frog wrote:As the unscheduled down-times occur more often nowdays, will CCP compensate the lost time in any form?
Like free SP for skills or training boost or free 5 days of gameplay??? For this one, they probably will. But the more people that post about it or demand it, the less we deserve it - and remember no one is entitled to it. Sit back, chill out, and wait to see what happens. I won't say that I feel entitled to anything and I'd be grateful if anything at all was given to players as a form of compensation, but I'd like to say that some of us actually pay RL money for the game time, using in-game bought PLEX only from time to time, or for dual training. I understand people that feel they should be compensated for not being able to play for 1/2 day, even thought that doesn't exactly applies to me, as I was at work and therefore I wouldn't be playing anyway.
Thing is, entitled spoiled brats DEMAND some compensation in a very disgusting way. Personally I don't mind having some event itwms or something similar, it's just this approach of "gimme" generation that makes me (and apparently some other people too) sick.
PS OP is actually still quite civilised about it, go check other threads into new players subfirum... |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1485
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Posted - 2015.07.16 16:37:50 -
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Space Frog wrote:As the unscheduled down-times occur more often nowdays, will CCP compensate the lost time in any form?
Like free SP for skills or training boost or free 5 days of gameplay???
Did you check the Terms and Conditions that you AGREED to ....
I thought not. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2044
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Posted - 2015.07.16 17:11:05 -
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Minmatar Citizen 534612187 wrote:Oh, I get it. Because the EULA says that no one gets a refund, it's a totally ok and not scumbaggy thing for a company to do.
Since when is following the terms of a contract agreed by both side a scumbag move? |
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
9165
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Posted - 2015.07.16 17:22:15 -
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I like Milk.
Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap.
Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!
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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
188
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Posted - 2015.07.16 17:23:32 -
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I'll assume this isn't a troll, since OP isn't in a NPC corp...
Why would you get more than a day of extended play time for 8 hrs of extended down time?
You're a total dumbass if the downtime lead to a training queue expiring now that you can queue 50 skills regardless of train time. My current queue is 215 days just for giggles. |
Labaianoch
The Scope Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2015.07.16 17:38:08 -
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Stitch Kaneland wrote:.. ...., and go get laid for those 12 hours the server was down.
As if...
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
870
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Posted - 2015.07.16 17:39:27 -
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Yeah, this character's queue is 322 days, and on my main it's 306 days. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11842
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Posted - 2015.07.16 17:46:00 -
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Labaianoch wrote:Stitch Kaneland wrote:.. ...., and go get laid for those 12 hours the server was down. As if...
Reminded me of this song.
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Orlacc
873
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:02:41 -
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Only OP will get SP because he had the courage to speak up!
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Ripblade Falconpunch
Centurion Logistics
275
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:08:22 -
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EVE is hard, princess... HTFU. |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
6165
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Posted - 2015.07.16 19:37:19 -
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Quote:Forum rules3. Ranting is prohibited.A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. 17. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. Closed.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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