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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:43:02 -
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I just went and created a jump clone on an alt in highsec then realised neither he, nor his corp have standings with the owner of the station. When did this change?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1313
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:48:35 -
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afaik it didnt!?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:51:35 -
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Yeah what?!
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:54:03 -
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Just tested and installed jump clones at 2 stations where I have no corp standings. the first was a caldari station where I have over 8.0 faction standings, the second was a quafe company station where I have negative faction and no corp standings
interesting :D
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IcyMind Arierep
Chaotic Tranquility Lethal Intent.
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Posted - 2015.07.21 21:01:30 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Just tested and installed jump clones at 2 stations where I have no corp standings. the first was a caldari station where I have over 8.0 faction standings, the second was a quafe company station where I have negative faction and no corp standings
interesting :D
I think is a bug they have not fixed it yet. I think there was a thread about they were talking about it. I like that you should have standing for it, people should work for things they want , or maybe charge isk for the activiation service. I don't know ....
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Jayne Fillon
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Posted - 2015.07.21 21:04:20 -
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This is a known bug. AFAIK you won't be punished for using it tho, so go nuts.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2015.07.21 21:14:43 -
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IcyMind Arierep wrote:I think is a bug they have not fixed it yet. I think there was a thread about they were talking about it. I like that you should have standing for it, people should work for things they want , or maybe charge isk for the activiation service. I don't know ....
1. costs 100k to install a jump clone, although that is a rather trivial sum. 2. imo NPC standings are a completely useless mechanic. Most of the corps I can install jump clones with are because of storyline missions. if I wanted to grind out standings I could easily do it, but after a certain point it just doesn't make sense to do it, as you have so many options. and there aren't really any bonuses to high standings. It was kinda cool getting the 2 run cnr bpc for 9.9 caldari standings, but I would have made so much more isk not worrying about my faction standings. being able to decline undesirable missions is a far bigger benefit than a silly bpc.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.21 21:16:17 -
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Jayne Fillon wrote:This is a known bug. AFAIK you won't be punished for using it tho, so go nuts. Best Bug EVER!
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
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Posted - 2015.07.21 21:19:10 -
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Apparently I was using it without even realizing that something is wrong.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.07.21 21:21:44 -
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Yeah I don't care for it much. People just use the work-a-round anyway (jump clone service corp).
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Zappity
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Posted - 2015.07.21 22:11:21 -
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Hope it stays that way. Dropping corp to install clones is silly. And grinding to 8.0 is utterly ridiculous.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.07.21 22:23:14 -
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Zappity wrote:Hope it stays that way. Dropping corp to install clones is silly. And grinding to 8.0 is utterly ridiculous. There was a Reddit threads few days ago where CCP mentioned they are currently discussing the issue internally about whether to patch it or leave it.
Pretty much everyone hopes it stays.
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Hal Morsh
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.21 22:48:37 -
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I cry every time CCP removes something related to having standings.
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Zappity
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Posted - 2015.07.21 22:59:23 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:I cry every time CCP removes something related to having standings. I cheer. I hate being forced to grind. PvE is not why I play.
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Freight Dee Kat
Zi-Zi's Asylum Heimatar Alliance Treaty Organization
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Posted - 2015.07.22 01:39:14 -
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Soon as I heard about this I got my alt a bunch of jump clones but honestly, I think they should make it something halfway between what it is now and what it used to be.
How about....4.0 standings required...
Easily obtainable but something a newbie won't have.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
875
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Posted - 2015.07.22 02:35:57 -
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CCP should just put it in the patch notes tomorrow and pretend they meant to do it. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.07.22 02:42:48 -
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Zappity wrote:Hal Morsh wrote:I cry every time CCP removes something related to having standings. I cheer. I hate being forced to grind. PvE is not why I play. And that's pretty much why. NPC stations, imo it would be better if a jump clone is possible as long as it's not in negative faction. Could even raise the cost of it for no or low standings - I'm sure any true Caldari would agree anyway Good for local bu$ine$$.
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
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Posted - 2015.07.22 05:02:46 -
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The amount of alts about to be logged in...
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2015.07.22 06:04:18 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:CCP should just put it in the patch notes tomorrow and pretend they meant to do it.
Retroactive sound decision making...works for me.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.07.22 17:21:24 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:CCP should just put it in the patch notes tomorrow and pretend they meant to do it. Retroactive sound decision making...works for me.
Works for me too, just got one. Not that I know how to use it yet.
Did occur to me though that if they wanted to they could easily delete all the new jump clones that are in stations where they don't have 8.0 standing.
Jump clones sound useful, but I really can't see me getting an 8 standing in high-sec.
So for me it would be better if they did away with the standing required. |
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Zappity
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Posted - 2015.07.22 19:29:26 -
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Avvy wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:CCP should just put it in the patch notes tomorrow and pretend they meant to do it. Retroactive sound decision making...works for me. Works for me too, just got one. Not that I know how to use it yet. Did occur to me though that if they wanted to they could easily delete all the new jump clones that are in stations where they don't have 8.0 standing. Jump clones sound useful, but I really can't see me getting an 8 standing in high-sec. So for me it would be better if they did away with the standing required. It doesn't work like this. Once created, the clones can be go anywhere. They are just like your current clone once you jump to them. There is no such thing as your 'original' clone vs a jump clone.
Medical clones are still a thing but this just defines which station you wake up in when you get podded.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.23 09:31:47 -
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Zappity wrote:Avvy wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:CCP should just put it in the patch notes tomorrow and pretend they meant to do it. Retroactive sound decision making...works for me. Works for me too, just got one. Not that I know how to use it yet. Did occur to me though that if they wanted to they could easily delete all the new jump clones that are in stations where they don't have 8.0 standing. Jump clones sound useful, but I really can't see me getting an 8 standing in high-sec. So for me it would be better if they did away with the standing required. It doesn't work like this. Once created, the clones can be go anywhere. They are just like your current clone once you jump to them. There is no such thing as your 'original' clone vs a jump clone. Medical clones are still a thing but this just defines which station you wake up in when you get podded.
Ok thanks, so basically after podding you always start at the home base.
I just had a thought, I was placing clones in 1.0 and 0.9 systems, now if I annoy Minmatar for instance 1.0 and 0.9 probably isn't a good place to put them. Maybe 0.5 systems would be better. Looks like I'll be on another trip around high-sec.
Idea is to have 1 jump clone in each of the 4 main factions areas as exit routes, with the home base from where I would be operating with a 5th jump clones near the home base. Don't know if there would be any problem with this idea. |
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Affirmative.
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Posted - 2015.07.29 03:55:19 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/clarification-regarding-jump-clones-standings/
Quote:As some eagle eyed capsuleers have noticed, during the deployment of the Aegis Sovereignty release on July 14th, changes were made to Tranquility that had an effect on the standings restriction that was in place for creating jump clones. Before the release, minimum standings of +8.0 were required with an NPC corporation in order for a pilot to be able to install a jump clone in their stations. This is no longer the case, and capsuleers can freely create jump clones in whichever NPC station they choose to do so. This was an unintended change that was a side effect of the release, however, after watching the reaction this change received from the community, we have decided that it will remain in place. This means that pilots will be able to continue to benefit from having no standings restriction on jump clone creation. While we are aware that there are a number of specialist corporations who provide jump clone creation services that may be affected by this change, and we give them our most sincere thanks for their years of tireless service, we feel that the removal of the restriction has wide reaching benefits for pilots across the cluster.
Personally I think that this is a cop out, and a degradation of the importance of standings, another standings system bites the Dust :(
POCO in HS, should have required standings, POS in HS no longer requires standings, Jump Clones no longer require standings, what's next? Mission Agents no longer require standings? |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
858
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Posted - 2015.07.29 04:02:27 -
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Awesome change. I had some expeditions in lowsec on one of my alts who had a lot of expensive implants plugged in. I was able to make an empty clone and go do them. Otherwise I would have just said F it and let them expire. |
Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
368
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Posted - 2015.07.29 04:20:30 -
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Caldari 5 wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/clarification-regarding-jump-clones-standings/ Quote:As some eagle eyed capsuleers have noticed, during the deployment of the Aegis Sovereignty release on July 14th, changes were made to Tranquility that had an effect on the standings restriction that was in place for creating jump clones. Before the release, minimum standings of +8.0 were required with an NPC corporation in order for a pilot to be able to install a jump clone in their stations. This is no longer the case, and capsuleers can freely create jump clones in whichever NPC station they choose to do so. This was an unintended change that was a side effect of the release, however, after watching the reaction this change received from the community, we have decided that it will remain in place. This means that pilots will be able to continue to benefit from having no standings restriction on jump clone creation. While we are aware that there are a number of specialist corporations who provide jump clone creation services that may be affected by this change, and we give them our most sincere thanks for their years of tireless service, we feel that the removal of the restriction has wide reaching benefits for pilots across the cluster. Personally I think that this is a cop out, and a degradation of the importance of standings, another standings system bites the Dust :( POCO in HS, should have required standings, POS in HS no longer requires standings, Jump Clones no longer require standings, what's next? Mission Agents no longer require standings? WHATS NEXT?!
LOCATOR AGENTS WONT REQUIRE STANDIMGS.
Omg please stop requiring lvl 4 anf lvl 3 location agents to require standing to use locator services
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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
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Posted - 2015.07.29 05:02:55 -
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Caldari 5 wrote:
Personally I think that this is a cop out, and a degradation of the importance of standings, another standings system bites the Dust :(
POCO in HS, should have required standings, POS in HS no longer requires standings, Jump Clones no longer require standings, what's next? Mission Agents no longer require standings?
Apart from the specialist corps who offered jump clone service, who does it adversely affect? I see it's of a major benefit to people in npc and very small player corps but realistically there were ways around that personal 8.0 requirement. |
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Affirmative.
420
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Posted - 2015.07.29 05:17:24 -
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Avaelica Kuershin wrote:Caldari 5 wrote:
Personally I think that this is a cop out, and a degradation of the importance of standings, another standings system bites the Dust :(
POCO in HS, should have required standings, POS in HS no longer requires standings, Jump Clones no longer require standings, what's next? Mission Agents no longer require standings?
Apart from the specialist corps who offered jump clone service, who does it adversely affect? I see it's of a major benefit to people in npc and very small player corps but realistically there were ways around that personal 8.0 requirement. I see it more as a dumbing down of the game, rather than a benefit or hindrance to any specific type of player/group.
Like if CCP had reduced it to 4 or 5 I would probably be fine with it, as being a balancing thing, however completely removing it is odd to say the least. |
Perihelion Olenard
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Posted - 2015.07.29 06:31:37 -
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That's right, jump clones now allow sitting instead of requiring standing. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2015.07.29 06:46:20 -
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Caldari 5 wrote:Avaelica Kuershin wrote:Caldari 5 wrote:
Personally I think that this is a cop out, and a degradation of the importance of standings, another standings system bites the Dust :(
POCO in HS, should have required standings, POS in HS no longer requires standings, Jump Clones no longer require standings, what's next? Mission Agents no longer require standings?
Apart from the specialist corps who offered jump clone service, who does it adversely affect? I see it's of a major benefit to people in npc and very small player corps but realistically there were ways around that personal 8.0 requirement. I see it more as a dumbing down of the game, rather than a benefit or hindrance to any specific type of player/group. Like if CCP had reduced it to 4 or 5 I would probably be fine with it, as being a balancing thing, however completely removing it is odd to say the least.
It only seems odd because you're used to having a standing barrier there.
I kind of like not having to have standing for jump clones, it means I don't have to do missions if I don't want to. so it's even more sandbox like. Now that doesn't seem odd to me. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.07.29 06:57:03 -
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Caldari 5 wrote:... what's next? Mission Agents no longer require standings? CCP Seagull has said before (FanFest 2014 I think, but it might have been since), that she would like this to be the case.
She doesn't want to restrict content from people and would like to allow even a 1 day old character to access level 4 missions, leaving their ability to complete them up to their ability to work with other players, etc.
I actually like the idea myself, but appreciate that some won't.
I think there should be some benefit to good standings, similar to the way standings affect sales tax and fees, etc. Would be good if there was a sliding cost to jump clones.
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