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Robert Sawyer
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.07.21 20:58:35 -
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Hello, fellow industrialists of New Eden.
I am an odd fellow, turned shipwright. That's right, the first ship that I have ever made just came off the production line - a Raven. Now, I plan to upgrade that into a Golem later on, but for the moment, I am currently building a Charon. I have already purchased the blueprints for all the pieces, since I don't have the money to buy one, but I seem to be a bit short on building materials.
You see, I mine all the minerals by myself in a Retriever in high-security space, but I'm struggling with the high amount of required metals for the job. After all, the Charon is not a small ship, eh? To make matters worse, my sister kicks me off my computer (although it's mine, theoretically) every 30 minutes, so I only make a pretty pathetic load of 50K cubic meters of Veldspar each day.
Many people told me to buy the minerals, but I really do not want to spend a dime. After all, I'm on a budget. How do I get the minerals I need for my Charon? How long will this project take me?
"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph."
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Whipple Shai
Time and all Eternity DeepSpace.
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Posted - 2015.07.21 21:55:48 -
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1) The raven can't be upgraded into a golem. Apologizes if I'm reading that incorrectly. 2) I'd ask yourself why you want the freighter. If it's just to move your own stuff you might want to look into a Corp called Red Frog. They specialize in hauling stuff for a very reasonable price. 3) If you still want it, I'd get a new sister who let's you pay longer. :-) 4) Refer to the quote in your sig. Enjoy the satisfaction when you finally finish the job.
Whipple. |
Lugues Slive
Diamond Light Industries
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Posted - 2015.07.21 22:03:30 -
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Assuming no BP research, high sec ore will take you about 7.8m m3, at 50k m3 a day, 156 days of mining. Add 25d for building and you have a long 6 months to look forward to. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5112
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Posted - 2015.07.21 22:42:45 -
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You are still paying when mining: you are trading your time for ore.
You could trade your time from something else more profitable than mining, and buy the minerals you need. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
1708
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Posted - 2015.07.22 07:04:15 -
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Buy the materials. Pay for them by doing something slightly more profitable than mining for 6 months to make ~1 billion ISK, like level 4 missions. That way you should be able to cut this endeavour down to maybe 3 months. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
1708
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Posted - 2015.07.22 07:25:40 -
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Whipple Shai wrote:1) The raven can't be upgraded into a golem. Apologizes if I'm reading that incorrectly.
One of the materials required to build a golem is a packaged raven.
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Robert Sawyer
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.07.22 08:01:17 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:You are still paying when mining: you are trading your time for ore.
You could trade your time from something else more profitable than mining, and buy the minerals you need.
I know that, I'm just trying to say that my sister doesn't let me mine; she always cuts in on me.
As for buying the minerals, I'm refraining myself from buying the common ones. I'm trying to spend as little as possible, and I do that only on the rare minerals, you know, the ones that you can't find in high-sec.
Any donation would be appreciated.
"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph."
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SJ Astralana
Syncore
107
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Posted - 2015.07.22 09:21:37 -
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One sister for sale, one sister for sale, one lying and spying young sister for sale... if you get enough for her you can buy your Charon.
Hyperdrive your production business: Eve Production Manager
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Kiddoomer
ScrewWork Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.22 10:50:58 -
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Mining 2 hours a day this will litteraly take entire months if not a year to mine enough for a charon, plus, a "factory" only anchorable in low or null sec can produce capital components using less materials that any highsec station or "factory" deployed by players. You're better mining, selling the ore and buy the capital component and then only build yourself your charon in a station.
About the golem, doing T2 stuff is great in my opinion for solo industrialist (this is what I do but T2 cruisers only), but don't forget that you're not only gonna need minerals, you will need to produce T2 components (not the same thing than capital components) using advanced moon material (no way to obtain these yourself) bought on the market.
As an advice, don't bother with a POS if you're on your own until later on, stick to not too much populated systems to build in stations.
A survey scanner tweak and new mining methods: interactive mining
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Whipple Shai
Time and all Eternity DeepSpace.
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Posted - 2015.07.22 12:02:07 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:Whipple Shai wrote:1) The raven can't be upgraded into a golem. Apologizes if I'm reading that incorrectly. One of the materials required to build a golem is a packaged raven.
Wowsers did I totally misunderstand what he meant. Thank you for fixing me.
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Robert Sawyer
The Vendunari End of Life
64
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Posted - 2015.07.22 15:30:12 -
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Update: through some sort of bargain, I have now won a total playtime of 8 hours a day. Today I bought 40 million worth of ore off the market, and I mined a grand total of about 230 thousand cubic meters of ore I have also received an extra 50 thousand cubic meters of ore from various donors. I now have enough ore to make 5 Capital Propulsion Engines, that's a start.
"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph."
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Lugues Slive
Diamond Light Industries
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Posted - 2015.07.22 20:50:48 -
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If you keep up that pace, you should get it done in 2 months at best. Not too bad for a test run project. |
William Weatherwax
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.07.22 21:20:10 -
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You know that the minerals you mine are NOT free, right? |
Robert Sawyer
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.07.23 15:13:29 -
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William Weatherwax wrote:You know that the minerals you mine are NOT free, right?
What do you mean?
"And when, at last, the moment is yours, that agony will become your greatest triumph."
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Lugues Slive
Diamond Light Industries
32
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Posted - 2015.07.23 16:48:20 -
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The general idea is they cost what your time is worth. If you can make 100m/hr doing x and buying minerals or spend an hour mining the same minerals, your minerals cost you 100m - mineral cost.
If you already mine for a profession, the math is easier and your mineral cost market value. |
Elena Thiesant
Sun Micro Systems
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Posted - 2015.07.23 19:48:07 -
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Robert Sawyer wrote:William Weatherwax wrote:You know that the minerals you mine are NOT free, right? What do you mean?
They're worth what you could sell them for, or what you would buy them for.
Hence why I recommended earlier doing something that earns ISK faster than mining (just about anything) and using the ISK generated to buy minerals |
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