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Alpha Lonefire
True Industral Formation Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:27:12 -
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One of my alts was ganked and podded a few days ago while mining in a fleet op in high-sec. Earlier in local chat while 3 CODE members where on I was told that AFK, BOT, Fleet or ALT mining would be no longer allowed. You must stay in local chat to answer a question asked of you (usually in Russian(which I don't know)). I was also told that I would be podded over and over again till I ether bough a permit or quit playing. well CCP doesn't seem to care unless they follow you around. players justify this saying:
Quote:Gankers are not exploiting game mechanics, they accept the penalties and plan around them, they are simply making better use of existing mechanics than their targets are. Not true, here's a quote from MinerBumping's web site:
Quote:Concord has a range of 150km. If they're already in the ice field and you attack a Mackinaw within 150km, they will stop you instantly. But if Concord is 150km or more away, they may as well be on the moon. They'll take the entire 18 seconds to respond. Most miners are unaware of this, so when they see umpteen Concord ships in the ice field, they'll assume they're safe. But if Concord is 150km away, the miner is actually less safe than if no Concord were in the system. So to fix this they do this:
Quote:Spawning Concord is easy, and they generally stay in system until the next downtime. Get your fleet into rookie ships (or any cheap ship with a gun) and have them fire on a secure container or something else that doesn't belong to them. Do it simultaneously, and you'll have a Concord squad spawned in for each of you. This will also draw away any Concord that may be loitering in the ice field.
That's EXPLOTING game mechanics.
Well I've trying submitting a ticket to resolve this issue, but CCP is more worried about Nul-sec than high-sec so it seems. after this post I'll be suspending all 7 of my accounts. I've been playing since December 2003 but this game has gone down since I started playing so much I can't enjoy it anymore. so farewell to all I WON'T be BACK!!
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Pur
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:37:15 -
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Bye. |
Valkin Mordirc
1275
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:40:55 -
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Well it was a good run of not having CODE. threads showing thrice every week.
EDIT: You've been playing since December 03 and only now, after buying seven accounts, are just getting annoyed at CODE?
#DeleteTheWeak
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Enia McCool
Mama Said Knock You Out
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:42:19 -
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Can I have your stuff? |
Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:45:16 -
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Alpha, I am agent Tisiphone Dira, Knight of the New Order and Right Hand of James 315.
We in the New Order take customer satisfaction and complaints very seriously. Feel free to write me a mail detailing exactly what happened, how it made you feel, who was involved and how we can negotiate a peace between us.
Am I to understand that earlier (so before the gank) you were warned in local? And is it any moving of CONCORD you think is an exploit, for example when a miner moves concord to his belt to protect himself, is that an exploit? Or is it only when a ganker moves CONCORD away? |
Valkin Mordirc
1276
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:45:52 -
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Oh dear. CODE killed 100mil for shiz.
I'm so sorry for you.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Alpha Lonefire
True Industral Formation Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:45:53 -
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Accounts suspended game uninstalled and I'm going to bed. Later forgot skill train app uninstall too |
Valkin Mordirc
1276
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:47:59 -
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Alpha Lonefire wrote:Accounts suspended game uninstalled and I'm going to bed. Later
No wait contract you stuff to Enia. She called dibs homie.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Alpha Lonefire
True Industral Formation Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.24 09:49:02 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:Alpha Lonefire wrote:Accounts suspended game uninstalled and I'm going to bed. Later No wait contract you stuff to Enia. She called dibs homie.
before first reply the account was suspended |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10932
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Posted - 2015.07.24 10:00:29 -
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Enia McCool wrote:Can I have your stuff? i doubt you want his stuff, it'l reek of apathy and failure.
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Enia McCool
Mama Said Knock You Out
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Posted - 2015.07.24 10:06:19 -
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Alpha Lonefire wrote:Valkin Mordirc wrote:Alpha Lonefire wrote:Accounts suspended game uninstalled and I'm going to bed. Later No wait contract you stuff to Enia. She called dibs homie. before first reply the account was suspended
Oh well, better luck next time |
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
1258
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Posted - 2015.07.24 10:12:09 -
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Alpha Lonefire wrote:One of my alts was ganked and podded a few days ago while mining in a fleet op in high-sec. Earlier in local chat while 3 CODE members where on I was told that AFK, BOT, Fleet or ALT mining would be no longer allowed. You must stay in local chat to answer a question asked of you (usually in Russian(which I don't know)). I was also told that I would be podded over and over again till I ether bough a permit or quit playing. well CCP doesn't seem to care unless they follow you around. I didn't realize Russian was the official language of CODE.? I am sure any Russian agents can put you in touch with someone who speaks English if you would like. Oh I see, Crabs Sticks; that is the Russian ganking corp of the CODE. Alliance.
Well regardless, you are mining in New Order space of course you are expected to answer questions in local. That is only polite when in another's territory. If you don't like this, you could move out of New Order territory, or you could just comply and get yourself a permit to stop being part of the problem of highsec, and become part of the solution.
Alpha Lonefire wrote:That's EXPLOTING game mechanics. Well I've trying submitting a ticket to resolve this issue, but CCP is more worried about Nul-sec than high-sec so it seems. after this post I'll be suspending all 7 of my accounts. I've been playing since December 2003 but this game has gone down since I started playing so much I can't enjoy it anymore. so farewell to all I WON'T be BACK!! Do you mean "exploiting" in the standard English "to use" definition, or "exploiting" in the bad, EULA-breaking sense. Because it certainly falls into the first definition as moving CONCORD is a legal use of game mechanics as confirmed by CCP.
You are now breaking the forum rules with this rage-fueled "quitting Eve" post. Why can't people ever just go quietly when they decide they are done with Eve? |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2199
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Posted - 2015.07.24 10:32:23 -
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Seriously? Another one of these? Already? Can we get these things consolidated like they do in Features and Bad Ideas?
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
887
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Posted - 2015.07.24 10:37:15 -
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Alpha Lonefire wrote:One of my alts was ganked and podded a few days ago while mining in a fleet op in high-sec. Earlier in local chat while 3 CODE members where on I was told that AFK, BOT, Fleet or ALT mining would be no longer allowed. You must stay in local chat to answer a question asked of you (usually in Russian(which I don't know)). I was also told that I would be podded over and over again till I ether bough a permit or quit playing. well CCP doesn't seem to care unless they follow you around. players justify this saying: Quote:Gankers are not exploiting game mechanics, they accept the penalties and plan around them, they are simply making better use of existing mechanics than their targets are. Not true, here's a quote from MinerBumping's web site: Quote:Concord has a range of 150km. If they're already in the ice field and you attack a Mackinaw within 150km, they will stop you instantly. But if Concord is 150km or more away, they may as well be on the moon. They'll take the entire 18 seconds to respond. Most miners are unaware of this, so when they see umpteen Concord ships in the ice field, they'll assume they're safe. But if Concord is 150km away, the miner is actually less safe than if no Concord were in the system. So to fix this they do this: Quote:Spawning Concord is easy, and they generally stay in system until the next downtime. Get your fleet into rookie ships (or any cheap ship with a gun) and have them fire on a secure container or something else that doesn't belong to them. Do it simultaneously, and you'll have a Concord squad spawned in for each of you. This will also draw away any Concord that may be loitering in the ice field. That's EXPLOTING game mechanics. Well I've trying submitting a ticket to resolve this issue, but CCP is more worried about Nul-sec than high-sec so it seems. after this post I'll be suspending all 7 of my accounts. I've been playing since December 2003 but this game has gone down since I started playing so much I can't enjoy it anymore. so farewell to all I WON'T be BACK!!
Black Pedro wrote:Do you mean "exploiting" in the standard English "to use" definition, or "exploiting" in the bad, EULA-breaking sense. Because it certainly falls into the first definition as moving CONCORD is a legal use of game mechanics as confirmed by CCP. You are now breaking the forum rules with this rage-fueled "quitting Eve" post. Why can't people ever just go quietly when they decide they are done with Eve?
What Pedro said. The more you know. Nicely done sir
Also, thank you for this post Alpha. I was doing some ganking before work and checking these forums for some tears during my 15min gcc and alas here you are!
Please actually read the EULA and ToS and try doing some research before you start throwing around the who's breaking what rule nonsense.
Thanks.
Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet
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Siegfried Cohenberg
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2015.07.24 10:39:21 -
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I certainly agree with you op.
Just the other day I was in my freighter headed towards a system to pick up some ships for my friends. So I jump into Uedama and I'm aligning out and then all of sudden I'm being BUMPED!. I don't know whats going on.
The next thing I know I'm being attacked! Out of no where unprovoked! The next thing I know my ship is gone! One of the guys even podded me. They even started talking to me about following their code and I had no knowledge of this beforehand. How do these people expect others to follow their rules if they gank you first before talking to you about them?!
What is the sense of having highsec if we're just going to be ganked by people like code. PVP does not BELONG in highsec. ITS HIGH SECURITY SPACE FOR A REASON. |
Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers Bad Neighbors.
502
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Posted - 2015.07.24 10:43:20 -
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Code grew out of the ashes of the can-flipping/baiting community.
They are the product purchased with the new crimewatch mechanics.
The safety of your jet cans comes at a price. |
Ibelini
Lone Star Warriors Yulai Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.07.24 10:55:22 -
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Why would you mine in High-Sec ? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10932
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Posted - 2015.07.24 10:59:00 -
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Ibelini wrote:Why would you mine in High-Sec ? Why would you mine at all rather
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Dradis Aulmais
RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic
971
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Posted - 2015.07.24 11:01:37 -
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Yawn this wasn't even worth the bandwidth.
Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896
Free The Scope Three
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
1259
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Posted - 2015.07.24 11:04:32 -
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I think the two PLEX he lost on the Jita undock in a Condor last week may have something to do with this post, probably more than the Covetor.
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98116106/
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Valkin Mordirc
1278
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Posted - 2015.07.24 11:34:33 -
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Oh no according to his post:
one of my alts was ganked and podded a few days ago while mining in a fleet op in high-sec. Earlier in local chat while 3 CODE members where on I was told that AFK, BOT, Fleet or ALT mining would be no longer allowed. You must stay in local chat to answer a question asked of you (usually in Russian(which I don't know)). I was also told that I would be podded over and over again till I ether bough a permit or quit playing. well CCP doesn't seem to care unless they follow you around.
So what he is saying, is: Ganking in Jita: A-okay good buddy.
Ganking a miner: Not okay.
Got it.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers Bad Neighbors.
503
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Posted - 2015.07.24 11:46:27 -
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2 plex in a condor is never a good idea.
I don't care if you are the only person in system.
I don't care how the EULA reads.
You need to blame that one on you.
Don't do that. No |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1177
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Posted - 2015.07.24 11:47:29 -
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only thing killing this game is these idiotic posts which make me so depressed i want to quit and take up knitting because its more fun than reading the same repetitive sh!t everyday
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Renegade Heart
Carebear Miners R Us
512
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Posted - 2015.07.24 12:43:20 -
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This ain't mining online, it's EvE. And just because you were too easy to beat, it does not mean CODE are killing the game. There's plenty of other players doing just fine.
Do not tar other players with the same brush you apply to terrible players such as yourself! |
pushdogg
Tell Your Mum To Call Me Get Off My Lawn
35
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Posted - 2015.07.24 13:10:26 -
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Op you obviously don't frequent the forums.....code. has already killed eve a dozen times.
I'm betting you will be back..... |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.24 13:13:43 -
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Lan Wang wrote:only thing killing this game is these idiotic posts which make me so depressed i want to quit and take up knitting because its more fun than reading the same repetitive sh!t everyday this stuff was what got me to stick with eve at first, but I'm getting bored of it.
Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
184
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Posted - 2015.07.24 13:58:22 -
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Siegfried Cohenberg wrote: What is the sense of having highsec if we're just going to be ganked by people like code. PVP does not BELONG in highsec. ITS HIGH SECURITY SPACE FOR A REASON.
WRONG!
with reference to the EvE Online New Pilot FAQ, page 15, Section 5, Clause 5.3 and i qoute, "In EVE Online, any player may attack any other player if they choose to, no matter where they happen to be".
please, STOP being ignorant!
Just Add Water
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1393
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:00:14 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Siegfried Cohenberg wrote: What is the sense of having highsec if we're just going to be ganked by people like code. PVP does not BELONG in highsec. ITS HIGH SECURITY SPACE FOR A REASON.
WRONG! with reference to the EvE Online New Pilot FAQ, page 15, Section 5, Clause 5.3 and i qoute, " In EVE Online, any player may attack any other player if they choose to, no matter where they happen to be". please, STOP being ignorant! Dear Bob in wormhole space
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10935
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:01:56 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Siegfried Cohenberg wrote: What is the sense of having highsec if we're just going to be ganked by people like code. PVP does not BELONG in highsec. ITS HIGH SECURITY SPACE FOR A REASON.
WRONG! with reference to the EvE Online New Pilot FAQ, page 15, Section 5, Clause 5.3 and i qoute, " In EVE Online, any player may attack any other player if they choose to, no matter where they happen to be". please, STOP being ignorant! this is why we need a sarcasm font
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24365
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Posted - 2015.07.24 14:15:18 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Siegfried Cohenberg wrote: What is the sense of having highsec if we're just going to be ganked by people like code. PVP does not BELONG in highsec. ITS HIGH SECURITY SPACE FOR A REASON.
WRONG! with reference to the EvE Online New Pilot FAQ, page 15, Section 5, Clause 5.3 and i qoute, " In EVE Online, any player may attack any other player if they choose to, no matter where they happen to be". please, STOP being ignorant! Unless the character has changed hands in the last couple of days, Siegfried is fully aware of that.
I hereby add my call for a sarcasm font.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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