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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.07.28 04:38:24 -
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Im in English 102 in summer college class.
Do you people in france have like French102 where you read French books and write Position Papers and Critical Analysises?
It's not called English 102 right?
I only ask here in GD cuz i dont associate with foreign people much except in eve and know that a lot of people in here in General Discussion are from other countries.
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.07.28 04:46:55 -
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this man does not represent the rest of US, he is special |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.07.28 04:58:59 -
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The important question is, did you skip English 101?
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.28 05:00:51 -
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How about you go ****-post this on reddit? |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2015.07.28 05:04:03 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:How about you go ****-post this on reddit? "You foreign people" is ambiguous on an international forum.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.28 05:11:42 -
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Folks, be gentle. Not everyone can get into the Special Olympics.
Some have to settle for being Fox News roving reporters.
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ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2015.07.28 05:51:55 -
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Topic Moved to Out of Pod Experience |
embrel
BamBam Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.28 05:56:32 -
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as I fail to detect the troll: ehm, yes... |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2015.07.28 06:04:55 -
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Oh, it's bad way out in those foreign places. I hear in the United Kingdom children are actually forced to take classes in the English language before the university level even. It's slavery, really. They have no choice! It's inhumane!
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.07.28 06:43:13 -
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Wut? Does American count as foreign? Sometimes you would think so here... We have English in US colleges. Happily I did not need to take any such classes; was recommended to skip the classes until later University levels. Didn't matter though, I was just in for computer science and some IT stuff. Are you asking for a tutor, CAM? IZ looks eager
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2015.07.28 07:19:56 -
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Hai! I is teeching engisch too mayself, donte neat any stinki klass
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.07.28 07:22:30 -
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What does any of that even mean?
I suppose that answers the question GǣnoGǥ, but it's hard to tellGǪ
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
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Posted - 2015.07.28 07:33:55 -
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Not sure what exactly you are asking about as title doesn't quite match the OP it seems, but whatever.
Here in Russia, as a part of obligatory education program we do study native language for about 10 years, so I guess the answer is yes.
English is a popular choice as a foreign language that is also included in a program. Although quality of teaching may vary, so can willingness and ability of people to learn ofc.
Obviously, children begin to learn languages way earlier in their life, but obviously native language is a no-brainer and the rest is at parents' discretion.
To be honest though, it was one hell of a weird question...
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
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Posted - 2015.07.28 08:19:30 -
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Mike Whiite
Geuzen Inc
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Posted - 2015.07.28 08:32:31 -
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okay I'll bite.
In the Netherlands, people are taught, depending on their education level, 3 to 6 foreign languages before attending university. Welcome in the country of merchants
English being the first, starting as early as the age of 10, though the "real Teachers" TV, Cinema as most programs and movies are subtitled instead of using voice over and then there is the internet of course. |
Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2015.07.28 09:13:58 -
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I live in a country jam packed with 'foreigners'
I am an Irishman (happily) living in England.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.28 09:28:15 -
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Tippia wrote:What does any of that even mean? I suppose that answers the question GǣnoGǥ, but it's hard to tellGǪ Go easy on her people , it's a genuine question.
From my experience generally European non English speakers tend to have a comparable or better understanding of the English language by the time they enter third level education than most native English speakers use on the internet, particularly notable with Scandinavians and Germans. I have a German friend with a better level of English than her Irish boyfriend
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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.07.28 10:00:46 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Tippia wrote:What does any of that even mean? I suppose that answers the question GǣnoGǥ, but it's hard to tellGǪ Go easy on her people , it's a genuine question. From my experience generally European non English speakers tend to have a comparable or better understanding of the English language by the time they enter third level education than most native English speakers use on the internet, particularly notable with Scandinavians and Germans. I have a German friend with a better level of English than her Irish boyfriend It's actually really funny to me how well many germans/ 'nordic' people speak english. They're always modest about it too, they'll answer in perfect english, using words you've only seen in books (hint hint) and say their english 'needs work'. Bullshit, only giveaway for them not being native speakers is the accent.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.07.28 10:19:34 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Go easy on her people , it's a genuine question. But, it is pretty bad. Just even a little punctuation goes a long way. But I don't usually point that stuff out, unless it's the great wall of text. Like my last GF said, who was an English teacher, almost half my age, "SO WHAT!" /o\ Not my GF anymore Kids these days... pfff
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.07.28 10:20:35 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Tippia wrote:What does any of that even mean? I suppose that answers the question GÇ£noGÇ¥, but it's hard to tellGǪ Go easy on her people , it's a genuine question. From my experience generally European non English speakers tend to have a comparable or better understanding of the English language by the time they enter third level education than most native English speakers use on the internet, particularly notable with Scandinavians and Germans. I have a German friend with a better level of English than her Irish boyfriend I'm sure it's genuine GÇö it's just so unspecified. It's half a dozen questions at once and it's not clear what it is he really wants to know. As in, what is he actually asking for?
Do we have university courses in Swedish around here? Yes, 50+ of them of various types, excluding courses in general linguistics (that's a separate field) that occasionally use Swedish as an example or point of comparison. Do we have courses in literature studies, logic and argumentation analysis, rhetorics, and practical writing? Yes, but those are language-agnostic and are handled by the literature and philosophy departments. Do we have courses in English, per the title? Yes, 44 of them, not counting the social studies courses that exist in parallel to explain it all (but that probably includes some courses in Old and Middle English, which might be unfair to include GÇö in total we have some 450 language courses so there's a lot of fiddly junk in the course list). Do we have summer courses? Yes, but what's available tends to depend on what departments have teachers (or, more often, PhD students) who want to fill their quota earlier in the year, and on how many students there are that need the extra credits and financingGǪ
What the OP is describing doesn't really sound like any regular course, but rather like the basic writing exercises that are done during the first few weeks of GÇ£English AGÇ¥ to get your language synapses warmed up and firing. I'd expect that something similar exists in the GÇ£Swedish as a foreign languageGÇ¥ set of courses, but being a native speaker, I have no insight into those, and English A presupposes the regular 9+ years of schooling in the language, whereas the Swedish course in question assumes you have no idea how to pronounce GÇ£+ñGÇ¥. I suppose that, at a stretch, it might be similar to the introductory logic and rhetorics summer classes that were popular when I took them 10GÇô15 years ago (no idea if they're still around), but again, they were held by the philosophy and lit departments, respectively.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.28 10:38:53 -
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I think she wants to know whether we have courses in our mother-tongues too. Yes of course we do. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.07.28 10:44:33 -
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embrel wrote:I think she wants to know whether we have courses in our mother-tongues too. Yes of course we do. By golly I think you're right!
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.07.28 10:50:21 -
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Mike Whiite wrote:okay I'll bite.
In the Netherlands, people are taught, depending on their education level, 3 to 6 foreign languages before attending university. Welcome in the country of merchants
English being the first, starting as early as the age of 10, though the "real Teachers" are TV and Cinema as most programs and movies are subtitled instead of using voice over and then there is the internet of course. I guess he's asking a different question.
The Dutch are great with languages (lived in The Hague for 7 years), but he is asking, do you have subjects in School/University that are the equivalent of Dutch 101, Dutch 102, etc.
In school, a lot of English as a first language countries have English, which focuses on grammar, composition, literature, etc.; essentially subjects that teach the rules of communicating formally in English, even though you might think that is something natural because it's the first language of the country.
CAM is asking whether the same sort of thing exists elsewhere. Do Dutch schools have Nederlands 101 that teaches proper grammar, etc.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.07.28 11:10:28 -
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"Do like you foreigners eat like real food like hamburgers and like pizza and like tomatos or do you like eat roots and leaves? And like how do you get on the Internet? Do you like have to peddle and stuff or do you put an elephant on like a treadmill?"
Studying at a tertiary instituition and asking common knowledge questions. Something has gone very wrong somewhere.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other spaces, where they can grow
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.07.28 11:21:06 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:In school, a lot of English as a first language countries have English, which focuses on grammar, composition, literature, etc.; essentially subjects that teach the rules of communicating formally in English, even though you might think that is something natural because it's the first language of the country.
CAM is asking whether the same sort of thing exists elsewhere. Do Dutch schools have Nederlands 101 that teaches proper grammar, etc. That would probably be the equivalent of a GÇ£practical writingGÇ¥ course at uni level around here, but as general concept it's normally only part of some larger foreign language programs. In the case of Swedish, that kind of stuff is generally handled far earlier in the schooling system. Since foreign language schooling GÇö usually English GÇö is mandatory from the 4th year (age 9GÇô10:ish), grammar becomes a natural and necessary part of the curriculum that way. Without it, the second language can't really be taught. Swedish as a subject is taught all through 9 years of primary school, in most cases, 3 years of secondary school. So it's more of a high-school kind of exercise than something that you'd come across in college or university.
That said, there is a GÇ£Professional SwedishGÇ¥ set of courses at the university around here, but it's a far more advanced than what the OP describes. I's more if you want to go into the field of corporate communications, and funnily enough, its prerequisite is that you've taken at least two terms worth of university-level English before you're allowed to apply.
Also, Netherlands 101: The Netherlands is comprised of 12 provinces and 3 old colonial municipalities, two of which are Holland.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.07.28 11:25:12 -
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Ok, so to answer this question properly: no, in the US, I don't believe we do. Well, maybe there is, but it's hidden away for few to find, for those that even care. Not only is illiteracy an epidemic, I don't even think that the majority of new teachers really comprehend the language any longer. Schools are falling while entitlement is rising. It's all about how we feel now, and how we need to group think to come to even basic decisions.
But it's not just the US, and it's not just language, but critical thinking in general is under assault. 40 years, no one can even put a man on the moon. Engineers are baffled how it was done. Such low-tech, yet they did it time and time again. Now? All the technological advancements, all the scientific achievements, we can hardly even get a payload into orbit. Devolution, while our computers crank out new stuff that we just don't understand. I'm sure there was a sci-fi book written on it at some point hah.
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embrel
BamBam Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.28 11:38:18 -
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Webvan wrote:Ok, so to answer this question properly: no, in the US, I don't believe we do. Well, maybe there is, but it's hidden away for few to find, for those that even care.
see, a question I assumed to have an obvious answer shows me once more, that assumption is the mother of all ****-ups.
That's news to me. I assumed that in all developed countries, mother-tongue 101 would be part of the curriculum far earlier, because it is with us and our neighboring countries.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.07.28 11:58:17 -
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Webvan wrote:... But it's not just the US, and it's not just language, but critical thinking in general is under assault. ... Carlin on education.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.07.28 13:13:25 -
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embrel wrote:Webvan wrote:Ok, so to answer this question properly: no, in the US, I don't believe we do. Well, maybe there is, but it's hidden away for few to find, for those that even care. see, a question I assumed to have an obvious answer shows me once more, that assumption is the mother of all ****-ups. That's news to me. I assumed that in all developed countries, mother-tongue 101 would be part of the curriculum far earlier, because it is with us and our neighboring countries. However... Yes, however...
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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
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Posted - 2015.07.28 13:33:23 -
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Webvan wrote:Ok, so to answer this question properly: no, in the US, I don't believe we do. Well, maybe there is, but it's hidden away for few to find, for those that even care. Not only is illiteracy an epidemic, I don't even think that the majority of new teachers really comprehend the language any longer. Schools are falling while entitlement is rising. It's all about how we feel now, and how we need to group think to come to even basic decisions.
But it's not just the US, and it's not just language, but critical thinking in general is under assault. 40 years, no one can even put a man on the moon. Engineers are baffled how it was done. Such low-tech, yet they did it time and time again. Now? All the technological advancements, all the scientific achievements, we can hardly even get a payload into orbit. Devolution, while our computers crank out new stuff that we just don't understand. I'm sure there was a sci-fi book written on it at some point hah.
Webvan's "Decline and Fall of the American Empire"?
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