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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
921
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Posted - 2015.07.29 21:25:11 -
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Decing noobs...such content. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1290
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Posted - 2015.07.29 23:52:32 -
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Nicolai Serkanner wrote:Lan Wang wrote:teach them how? by telling them to go and read stuff, but yeah i quite happily teach new players stuff if they ever ask and if i was in the rookie system watching that then yeah i would help them and i do help rookies, i dont consider repeatitive podding as teaching anybody anything.
did you learn everything about the game when you were in trial, doubt it dont know if these guys left corp or quit the game so i cant comment what they are doing now but there is no htfu attitude when you're getting camped by a load of vets.
HTFU, i guess that should really aimed at the guys shooting the rookies because there is nothing hard about punching puppies.
learn the rules? what if they did this whole post is about rookie griefing so thats against the rules, and its against the rules for a reason. No, I didn't learn everything when in trila, but also didn't do something as stupid as joining a corp willy nilly. I learned every day by trying, losing ships, asking questions et cetera. You however obviously think newbies can't or shouldn't learn by attacking the people who play the game the way it was made: by blowing **** up. Again. If they leave the corp they can not be hellcamped (ganking aside). Why are you wasting time crying about newbies being podded instead of helping them? HTFU is very much the case here for those newbies because when you do get hellcamped you need to HTFU and find a solution, like most do. If it is decided it is griefing it is against the rules. So far CCP hasn't ruled it so and I doubt they will. The deccers use the game mechanics plain and simple.
you must be super perfect at eve then and i guess thats the reason you are here and people quit but tbh the htfu is getting rather boring, and it seems its used by people to define actions like this. really its pot meet kettle
you keep saying "why dont you help" blah blah but seriously what exactly could i do? go up to highsec with my -8.3 security status and just start shooting mercs who will either just dock up or blob everything with t3's until i die to concord, we both know thats not how to highsec.
im not really crying, im probably crying as much as you are trying to defend these actions with no real excuse apart from htfu or read a wiki before playing so they know mercs are gonna just farm them, i dont consider a debate about shooting noobs as crying but if it makes you feel like you are accomplishing something then yes im weeping like a little b!tch.
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Major Triscuits
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2015.07.30 02:53:23 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Dan Seavey Allier wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Nicolai Serkanner wrote:What the hell happened to HTFU? glad i'm not the only one who wondered this after reading the thread. A little more thought went into what we spew when the subscriptions started dropping. The attitudes we had in previous years were not as healthy. With dropping subscriptions and log in numbers, The EVE community is gravitating to the idea of at least letting these guys make a little gratifying progress before throwing the **** punch. It used to be " This is EVE. Suck it up." Now a little conservation effort is being applied so you don't run out of targets in 5 years. It's a better endeavor then running through a daycare with a cricket bat. Dan oh, we decided quantity was more important than quality? in that case, carry on being a bunch of moist eyed pansies. i'll check back later to see if giving each other a handy and singing kumbaya around the camp fire has increased the subscriber numbers. just going to throw it out there; the htfu attitude saw what, 10? years of near constant subscriber growth. i sincerely doubt kicking people's dog is what's causing the subscriber numbers to dip.
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2015.07.30 05:34:50 -
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Major Triscuits wrote:I think I got cancer from reading this excessive amount of dumb.
feel free to point out which points are factually incorrect or wrong.
please. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2015.07.30 05:43:44 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Major Triscuits wrote:I think I got cancer from reading this excessive amount of dumb. feel free to point out which points are factually incorrect or wrong. please.
You could say a dumb answer to a dumb answer.
Were you really expecting anything else? |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
316
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Posted - 2015.07.30 07:09:31 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:I think the appropriate phrase is "stay classy" clubbing baby seals and claiming you are teaching them a valuable lesson could not be described as "classy". One does not need noobs protected, it needs those who have no sense of self restraint to go back to organising hobo fights and get out of the game.
"stay classy" Yes, i agree. I think thats what the guys from CCP have in mind when they talk about a dark harsh EvE. A universe with classy Evildoers. Not some pathetic seal clubbers.
EvE is known to have the steepest learning curve of oll MMOs around, but some measly groups insist, that newbros are not newbros anymore when they leave the starter systems. Or when the trial time is over... And much more off this stupid excuses which can be shot down easily.
Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
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Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
6678
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Posted - 2015.07.30 07:47:30 -
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La Rynx wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:I think the appropriate phrase is "stay classy" clubbing baby seals and claiming you are teaching them a valuable lesson could not be described as "classy". One does not need noobs protected, it needs those who have no sense of self restraint to go back to organising hobo fights and get out of the game. "stay classy" Yes, i agree. I think thats what the guys from CCP have in mind when they talk about a dark harsh EvE. A universe with classy Evildoers. Not some pathetic seal clubbers. EvE is known to have the steepest learning curve of oll MMOs around, but some measly groups insist, that newbros are not newbros anymore when they leave the starter systems. Or when the trial time is over... And much more off this stupid excuses which can be shot down easily.
Whether you like it or not, an open universe where anything goes is gonna have a few seal clubbers. 'Class' is not a prerequisite for playing this game, it is a subjective standard that is different for everyone. For example, a redneck might find McDonalds classy, cuz he didn't have to kill the food himself.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2291
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Posted - 2015.07.30 08:06:38 -
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Hm. Time for more popcorn. Thinking folks are getting a bit off track here anyways. Mercs kill who they are paid to kill. Doesn't really matter if they're baby seals or lions and tigers and bears, oh my. Someone has paid ISK to ensure that someone else suffers harm. Mercs facilitate this.
While all the white knightery going on is quite entertaining, the real issue here is the leadership of the victim corp and how they're doing their newbies dirty by recruiting them straight out of the rookie systems en masse without warning them that they're being thrust into a warzone.
That's the true griefing involved. A player who does know the score is gulling those who do not know any better into becoming cannon fodder for him, and then essentially abandoning them to the tender mercies of his enemies. I'm glad to hear the GM's are looking into this.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
318
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Posted - 2015.07.30 08:06:55 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Whether you like it or not, an open universe where anything goes is gonna have a few seal clubbers. 'Class' is not a prerequisite for playing this game,
Well obviously you have a problem beeing called lame, measly ridiculous. Yes EvE is a place that attracts players like that. Utterly incompent, always on the hunt for easy victims, projecting their selfhatred on others like miners. Building a group and reassuring themself that they are not some measly losers, Redefining the word losing into winning, so they state they are always winning. They try to spin even the biggest fail ever into a win. Seriously: Nobody else than the most stupid codie can believe that crap.
We are talking newbros, when we use the words seal clubbers. Yes some di?ks will still go for newbros but the eula forbids it.
In earlier times there was no need for rules, cause the most ppl went to the real fun in nullsec. But when more and more losers staid in hisec and **** of newbros in hisec, rules will be maid.
As long there were only 10 vehicles in the world, no traffic control was needed. But with growing numbers of vehicles you need traffic control.
Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
305
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Posted - 2015.07.30 08:46:49 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:La Rynx wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:I think the appropriate phrase is "stay classy" clubbing baby seals and claiming you are teaching them a valuable lesson could not be described as "classy". One does not need noobs protected, it needs those who have no sense of self restraint to go back to organising hobo fights and get out of the game. "stay classy" Yes, i agree. I think thats what the guys from CCP have in mind when they talk about a dark harsh EvE. A universe with classy Evildoers. Not some pathetic seal clubbers. EvE is known to have the steepest learning curve of oll MMOs around, but some measly groups insist, that newbros are not newbros anymore when they leave the starter systems. Or when the trial time is over... And much more off this stupid excuses which can be shot down easily. Whether you like it or not, an open universe where anything goes is gonna have a few seal clubbers. 'Class' is not a prerequisite for playing this game, it is a subjective standard that is different for everyone. For example, a redneck might find McDonalds classy, cuz he didn't have to kill the food himself.
yup that's pretty true of an open world like EVE but i think the whole point of this thread is pointing out how this can't be good for retention of certain new guys. being killed 20 times or more within your first few weeks can't be a good experience for some of these guys. while some get it and have some help from mates others find it really hard to get to grips with EVE. but given time these guys could turn out to be great players and even great leaders. we deny ourselves of these people when they are crushed in this fashion. ya know, to shut this topic of new guy retention down and prove it right or wrong once and for all perhaps the community should call a cease fire on all new bros for 3 months and see how it effects retention. does this fine community have the balls to experiment like this?? i believe so. but it might leave certain groups bored stupid and make them leave. can't please all of the people all of the time i guess. but still more help for the new bros is always a good thing. can't deny that, more in game warnings and even hints to help them?? |
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13875
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Posted - 2015.07.30 08:51:43 -
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La Rynx wrote: I think thats what the guys from CCP have in mind when they talk about a dark harsh EvE.
You think wrong. The game's promotional material, the FAQ, hell even the goddamned music videos completely contradict your bullshit.
CCP had player freedom in mind. Not this neutered, limp wristed excuse for a game that you want.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
6682
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Posted - 2015.07.30 08:54:20 -
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La Rynx wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Whether you like it or not, an open universe where anything goes is gonna have a few seal clubbers. 'Class' is not a prerequisite for playing this game, Well obviously you have a problem beeing called lame, measly ridiculous. Yes EvE is a place that attracts players like that. Utterly incompent, always on the hunt for easy victims, projecting their selfhatred on others like miners. Building a group and reassuring themself that they are not some measly losers, Redefining the word losing into winning, so they state they are always winning. They try to spin even the biggest fail ever into a win. Seriously: Nobody else than the most stupid codie can believe that crap. We are talking newbros, when we use the words seal clubbers. Yes some di?ks will still go for newbros but the eula forbids it. In earlier times there was no need for rules, cause the most ppl went to the real fun in nullsec. But when more and more losers staid in hisec and **** of newbros in hisec, rules will be maid. As long there were only 10 vehicles in the world, no traffic control was needed. But with growing numbers of vehicles you need traffic control.
I have absolutely no problem with the names one tiny mind that is less precious than dried sprog on bedsheets to me can come up with for me. Also, I suggest if you're going to call others incompetent, try not being so yourself, and spell incompetent correctly.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
6684
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Posted - 2015.07.30 08:58:20 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:La Rynx wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:I think the appropriate phrase is "stay classy" clubbing baby seals and claiming you are teaching them a valuable lesson could not be described as "classy". One does not need noobs protected, it needs those who have no sense of self restraint to go back to organising hobo fights and get out of the game. "stay classy" Yes, i agree. I think thats what the guys from CCP have in mind when they talk about a dark harsh EvE. A universe with classy Evildoers. Not some pathetic seal clubbers. EvE is known to have the steepest learning curve of oll MMOs around, but some measly groups insist, that newbros are not newbros anymore when they leave the starter systems. Or when the trial time is over... And much more off this stupid excuses which can be shot down easily. Whether you like it or not, an open universe where anything goes is gonna have a few seal clubbers. 'Class' is not a prerequisite for playing this game, it is a subjective standard that is different for everyone. For example, a redneck might find McDonalds classy, cuz he didn't have to kill the food himself. yup that's pretty true of an open world like EVE but i think the whole point of this thread is pointing out how this can't be good for retention of certain new guys. being killed 20 times or more within your first few weeks can't be a good experience for some of these guys. while some get it and have some help from mates others find it really hard to get to grips with EVE. but given time these guys could turn out to be great players and even great leaders. we deny ourselves of these people when they are crushed in this fashion. ya know, to shut this topic of new guy retention down and prove it right or wrong once and for all perhaps the community should call a cease fire on all new bros for 3 months and see how it effects retention. does this fine community have the balls to experiment like this?? i believe so. but it might leave certain groups bored stupid and make them leave. can't please all of the people all of the time i guess. but still more help for the new bros is always a good thing. can't deny that, more in game warnings and even hints to help them??
As already stated in this thread, by a dev, there are specific rules against specific actions older players can take against newer ones. Despite IZ's assertion that EVE was once a perfect world with no bad people (how she could possible know that having not been here from the beginning, I don't know, since the current owner of the account bought it off someone else), EVE's nature would always necessitate some hand-holding of newbros to such an environment. However, IZ's rabid mouth-frothing is not about griefing nubs, it's just how she is when in the presence of superior beings, such as myself, and other CODE members.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1290
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Posted - 2015.07.30 09:40:25 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:La Rynx wrote: I think thats what the guys from CCP have in mind when they talk about a dark harsh EvE.
You think wrong. The game's promotional material, the FAQ, hell even the goddamned music videos completely contradict your bullshit. CCP had player freedom in mind. Not this neutered, limp wristed excuse for a game that you want.
sorry, but i agree with ganking etc and believe its something which isnt in other games and its cool to know you cant just yolo around in complete safety, mercs too, its a different playstyle which is pretty cool but the massacre of noobs by vets is not player freedom, is there really such an issue that a player should be given a chance to learn a bit of the game before being roflstomped by a bunch of 30mil+ sp players?
its not fun getting spawn camped in call of duty nor does it teach you anything about the game. its not fun in any game to be at the receiving end of veteran players constantly just smashing you around, it gets boring and when i get bored of a game i just shut it down.
again the HTFU attitude is more aimed towards these seal clubbers because there is nothing hard about killing noobs, who cares if you were paid, it doesnt change the fact they are noobs that dont know the game and they are simply using them to pad stats, lame tactics
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
318
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Posted - 2015.07.30 09:53:41 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:superior beings, such as myself, and other CODE members.
You made my day, i just blew my popcorn over the room!! Can't remember the last time when i laughed so hard. Thats the way the world looks through code goggles.
For others you superiors winners by fleeing from AT12 by lightning speed, are most lame group of new eden. Abusing the given freedom by the most lame kind of playstile.
Getting very angry when reminded, that they are not elite, nobody thinks they are "superior" (coff coff was laughing again.), just lame players. You are just talking to codies, the rest of the ppl have coffee running down their noses from laughing.
Kaarous Aldurald wrote: CCP had player freedom in mind. Not this neutered, limp wristed excuse for a game that you want.
You remember thats about shooting newbros by abusing game mechanics? Just feeding of newbros is "limp wristed". EvE is not harsh anymore the likes of you when you cannot shoot at newbros anymore? what where you saying? "limb wristed"?
Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
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Aoife Fraoch
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
95
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Posted - 2015.07.30 09:57:24 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Hm. Time for more popcorn. Thinking folks are getting a bit off track here anyways. Mercs kill who they are paid to kill. Doesn't really matter if they're baby seals or lions and tigers and bears, oh my. Someone has paid ISK to ensure that someone else suffers harm. Mercs facilitate this.
While all the white knightery going on is quite entertaining, the real issue here is the leadership of the victim corp and how they're doing their newbies dirty by recruiting them straight out of the rookie systems en masse without warning them that they're being thrust into a warzone.
That's the true griefing involved. A player who does know the score is gulling those who do not know any better into becoming cannon fodder for him, and then essentially abandoning them to the tender mercies of his enemies. I'm glad to hear the GM's are looking into this.
Yeah this. The fault lies with that CEO first. Maybe it's a noob farm, maybe they are just really bad at being a CEO, however it turns out, the blame sits with that CEO. If what is said in this thread is true, then those noobs would have been better off in a NPC corp.
Corps like the one the OP mentioned really should not exist.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13876
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Posted - 2015.07.30 10:04:06 -
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Lan Wang wrote:but the massacre of noobs by vets is not player freedom
It literally is. The only blame lies with the jackass recruiting them. You can't blame anyone for shooting at legal targets. Even in freaking WoW they have a saying: "If it's red, it's dead."
Quote: is there really such an issue that a player should be given a chance to learn a bit of the game before being roflstomped by a bunch of 30mil+ sp players?
Bubble wrapping new players from the reality of EVE just makes the inevitable fall harder. You WILL die in EVE Online, and people who understand that sooner are more likely to develop the kind of attitude that is needed for EVE. That's why newbies who die in their early career are more likely to resub.
Quote: again the HTFU attitude is more aimed towards these seal clubbers because there is nothing hard about killing noobs, who cares if you were paid, it doesnt change the fact they are noobs that dont know the game and they are simply using them to pad stats, lame tactics
HTFU means "too bad, deal with it". It applies towards people who want to neuter PvP interaction and handcuff player freedom. Like I said above, if you want to be mad at somebody, be mad at the guy who is recruiting these people, not the players who are firing at legal targets.
Like usual, it's the dickheads who try to recruit newbies into tax farms that are doing the real harm to this game.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2300
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Posted - 2015.07.30 10:22:38 -
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"Like usual, it's the dickheads who try to recruit newbies into tax farms that are doing the real harm to this game."
That's the really weird thing. They've got a 0% tax for the corp. I can understand how that would be attractive to new players, especially when all they've known is the NPC tax rate. What I'm trying to understand is what this guy is actually getting out of this.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
2079
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Posted - 2015.07.30 10:25:07 -
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Beta Maoye wrote:New players should be given the information early that NPC police in high sec will not interfere enemy's attack if his corporation is at war.
That is the ONLY real good suggestion in this thread.
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
For the rest hire PoH |
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13876
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Posted - 2015.07.30 10:25:38 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:"Like usual, it's the dickheads who try to recruit newbies into tax farms that are doing the real harm to this game."
That's the really weird thing. They've got a 0% tax for the corp. I can understand how that would be attractive to new players, especially when all they've known is the NPC tax rate. What I'm trying to understand is what this guy is actually getting out of this.
Well, now that's a weird one. Still his fault, of course, but that is fairly odd. Recruiting bot gone wrong?
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2300
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Posted - 2015.07.30 10:33:37 -
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If it is a bot then I hope they hit him with the Ban Hammer so hard his ancestors feel it. That's just rotten.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13877
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Posted - 2015.07.30 10:34:44 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:If it is a bot then I hope they hit him with the Ban Hammer so hard his ancestors feel it. That's just rotten.
...was, was that a Mulan reference?
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2300
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Posted - 2015.07.30 10:36:31 -
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I don't... think so? I dunno, as I have never seen it.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
13877
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Posted - 2015.07.30 10:41:37 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I don't... think so? I dunno, as I have never seen it.
My daughter watched it the other day. One of the characters says something to the effect of "I'll hit you so hard it will make your ancestors dizzy!"
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2015.07.30 11:02:41 -
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La Rynx wrote: We are talking newbros, when we use the words seal clubbers. Yes some di?ks will still go for newbros but the eula forbids it.
Does it?
I thought it mainly related to starter systems and like in this thread the suspicion that someone is farming them for killmails.
I don't think newbros should be protected too much, there should be a degree of protection to make sure people are not exploiting them before they have a chance to get used to the game.
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epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1758
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Posted - 2015.07.30 11:13:38 -
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We can argue forever that when CCP advertised be the villian, they had an image of a james bond villian rather than a pathetic seal clubbing granny mugging lowlife.
It is a sandbox, so one can choose.
HOWEVER if this corp has been deliberately set up to provide vast numbers of newbies to be delivered to the slaughterhouse of another corp or alliance that the alt of the ceo is a member of, then the eula should be enforced so hard, they will regret ever having joined EVE applying to ALL of their characters.
Hopefully the official petition created earlier will deliver the appropriate response.
And hopefully no one will try to further defend such behaviour, this is not about eve being a hard dark game, it is about (potentially) slimy lowlifes trying to get their sadistic jollies without being noticed (if true.)
This gives everyone a bad name, legitimate gankers, mercenary corps, eve as a whole etc, and does no one any favours.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2015.07.30 12:09:07 -
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Avvy wrote:
I don't think newbros should be protected too much,
Thought I'd explain this a bit more.
This game in essence is a PvP game.
In other MMOs you get a lot of PvE players using PvP servers even when they have a choice.
Why do they do it, probably for 2 reasons. The first is they perceive it as being more macho and probably more importantly, because although they don't PvP they like the risk.
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Lord Razpataz
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
134
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Posted - 2015.07.30 12:13:41 -
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So.. I've been watching this post for a while.
First of all I think alot of people in eve need a tinfoil adjustment. That being said, I would like to bring some facts.
Devils (we, the bad mercs..) did take a contract against the corp in question. We where not their first dec, many other had been at them. When the time came for extending the dec, the employer was abit late and we needed to re launch.
Then a random dude comes with a divious idea on the forum claiming this corp was made by mercs just to farm. Suddenly troll frenzy and tinfoilhats flying, not that shocking tho.. its eve. I actually would love for CCP to divolge the result of their investigation of this.
On another note.. IF I wanted to go on a turkey shoot.. why not dec Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation? I dont see anyone complaining about PIRAT, Marmite etc.. killing noobs in the thousands. The only difference is the leadership in the target corporations. One stepping up to the challenge and inform their newbro's about the situation their in, the other is a bot?
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2015.07.30 12:15:35 -
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Avvy wrote:Avvy wrote:
I don't think newbros should be protected too much,
Thought I'd explain this a bit more. This game in essence is a PvP game. In other MMOs you get a lot of PvE players using PvP servers even when they have a choice. Why do they do it, probably for 2 reasons. The first is they perceive it as being more macho and probably more importantly, because although they don't PvP they like the risk.
Something like that. You just can do both when you want to. PvE or PVP. If i am not up to PvP i can relax at PvE. Like GTA5: Play some relaxed GTA5 Storyline or go GTA Online where i can be shot any moment.
Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
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Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
48
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Posted - 2015.07.30 12:20:50 -
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"a contract", last time I heard that excuse MC was still sucking on BOB's teet.
Here's how I see it:
A corp that specifically targets newbies in newbie & career systems to join them without stating said those newbies are in for a whole lot of PVP because they're wardecced to hell and back, is newbie griefing. It's really very simple. A GM doesn't' care about your amazing elawering about how your way of "interacting with newbies" should somehow be allowed in those systems. It isn't, end of story.
Taking advantage of this situation is questionable at best. |
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