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Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.07 15:59:00 -
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So guys!
First off, I would like to take a moment to greet and shake hands with all of our tycoons here, and then on to business..
Why am I here: Good question! So I am here looking to find a few of the business savy, and highly trusted members of the eve community in an attempt to persuade such members to let me leverage their trust for a project of mine.
What Project: Im have been toilig away quietly in my moms basement (not really) working on what I am calling Eden Battles, which is basically a ladder system for eve pvp... It works similar to any of the other ladder type games, where players challenge each other and record the match results, then at the end the season prizes are handed out. (more info to interested parties including site link)
Why: Frankly eve's pvp has fallen from grace, no longer are there any 1v1s or small gang fights, everything that ends up being a decent engagement is of larger mass, or one blob just rolling over a small fleet. I am looking to bring a competitive e-sport feel to small gang pvp. Where rules and regulations bind all competitors.
What do you need: What I need is simple, I only need trusted members to act as a "board" like you would in a normal corp. I have no need for your money, or investments. I want business savy direction, as well as trust so that people will pay entry fees and not feel like im just going to take their money and leave.
Where am I: I am about 85% complete with the project, the website is up and functional, I need to assign a domain to it and add a coat of gloss shine. I have most policies and rules written as well as planning for how everything will operate.
Where do you want to go? I would really like to turn this into a full scale "Boxing" type platform, where camera men record matches, we narrate them, players can watch them on oru website, advertisement driven of course, to hopefully establish a fun league and some other way to rate a players ability vs just KM whoring.
What to expect from me You will get to leverage my professional web development, experienced pvping, and community leader in order to grow a profitable eve business. I will submit to all background checks, full api will be provided to members I select.
What do I expect from you I expect a reputation of trust among the eve community, and I expect a sense of business to be provided as well, for policies, and profit. Some kind of audit will be to be established.
So on that note gentlemen, if you have any questions please feel free to post them here, eve mail me, or however else you feel to contact me. I dont have any people.. so get your people to contact me directly ;)
Thanks!
P.S.
Thank you Shar for informing me these new forums where indeed opened! I had trouble yesterday and earlier getting access which is why my post was on the orginal MD forum. |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.04.07 16:13:00 -
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CCP locked up the old forums before I could correct an impression: I was teasing you about being a liar. More silver tongued with that last volley of yours that I quoted. |

Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.07 16:17:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:CCP locked up the old forums before I could correct an impression: I was teasing you about being a liar. More silver tongued with that last volley of yours that I quoted.
Ahh ok then. Sorry for misunderstanding. I just kkw how this place can be to new commers
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Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.07 16:56:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:CCP locked up the old forums before I could correct an impression: I was teasing you about being a liar. More silver tongued with that last volley of yours that I quoted.
Maybe now you should take some time to read what I am offering at the top.. I would love to work with yeah Shar! |

Electus Ereptor
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:02:00 -
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Jonasan Mikio wrote: What do I expect from you I expect a reputation of trust among the eve community, and I expect a sense of business to be provided as well, for policies, and profit. Full API keys will need to be submitted to me as well as references for my selection.
Bolded stupid parts. Underlined thoughts belonging to a mentally handicapped person. |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:04:00 -
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Actually I did read it but I thought I'd help you out by not sharing my thoughts on it. That being said:
History has shown us that spiffy web design and development does not make a reliable service. Considering that you are asking for api keys information security & access is a paramount issue. In fact I've talked with Hexxx (via msn) about the same issues with his own insurance project. In his case he has a history to overcome (if possible) where as you have a history to build.
The one suggestion I made to Hexxx might do you some good: Instead of trying to re-invent an already well functioning wheel, see if you can get a ride on it. Chribba's eve board already gains access to many players api details and he's quite trusted by the community in an overall capacity. I would suggest seeing if he would be open to some sort of Eve Board API where people select permit "access", via options, to other api tied in community sites.
Unless, of course, I've misinterpreted your API details need.
PS: Which I am now thinking I have. |

Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:07:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:Actually I did read it but I thought I'd help you out by not sharing my thoughts on it. That being said:
History has shown us that spiffy web design and development does not make a reliable service. Considering that you are asking for api keys information security & access is a paramount issue. In fact I've talked with Hexxx (via msn) about the same issues with his own insurance project. In his case he has a history to overcome (if possible) where as you have a history to build.
The one suggestion I made to Hexxx might do you some good: Instead of trying to re-invent an already well functioning wheel, see if you can get a ride on it. Chribba's eve board already gains access to many players api details and he's quite trusted by the community in an overall capacity. I would suggest seeing if he would be open to some sort of Eve Board API where people select permit "access", via options, to other api tied in community sites.
Unless, of course, I've misinterpreted your API details need.
PS: Which I am now thinking I have.
Shar,
Surely old age has not killed your ability to understand concepts in writing?, or maybe its just me, maybe I am not transcribing as well as I should...
I only want API keys of my directors aka, the people here.. and now.. that I want to help... Please reread my post for clarity..
I have history to build you are correct, however, I think I am on the right road... History has proven if you were around at that time which you were not, or at least not as Shar, that eve arenas have extremely successful and that people are more then willing to fly frigs and cruisers into competitions. |

Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:09:00 -
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Electus Ereptor wrote:Jonasan Mikio wrote: What do I expect from you I expect a reputation of trust among the eve community, and I expect a sense of business to be provided as well, for policies, and profit. Full API keys will need to be submitted to me as well as references for my selection.
Bolded stupid parts. Underlined thoughts belonging to a mentally handicapped person.
I have no time for your foolish games, I am not here looking for MD trolls, or to be trolled. Go back to your bridge, you have been blocked... |

Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:09:00 -
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wow I was ganked for a double post! |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:15:00 -
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Jonasan Mikio wrote:Surely old age has not killed your ability to understand concepts in writing?, or maybe its just me, maybe I am not transcribing as well as I should... I only want API keys of my directors aka, the people here.. and now.. that I want to help... Please reread my post for clarity.. Kind of you not to just say, "FAIL!". 
Jonasan Mikio wrote:I have history to build you are correct, however, I think I am on the right road... History has proven if you were around at that time which you were not, or at least not as Shar, that eve arenas have extremely successful and that people are more then willing to fly frigs and cruisers into competitions. Oh I remember competitions (never been a time I wasn't Shar btw) but I think the problem with them revolves around fair fighting. Where is a problem as some combatants can not enter high security space. If fights take place in low security, then who was the snitch that brought down UBER fleet to gank everyone at the fight? If only in High Sec, other problems exist. As usual, current game mechanics do not support a robust solution except for api verification of killmails. A ladder system can be properly supported if you use killmails from the two combatants.
As to witnesses, that's another ball of wax.
PS: Saying fail would've been so apropos.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:18:00 -
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Jonasan Mikio wrote: you have been blocked...
I would love to know how to activate block on posters.
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Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:18:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:Jonasan Mikio wrote:Surely old age has not killed your ability to understand concepts in writing?, or maybe its just me, maybe I am not transcribing as well as I should... I only want API keys of my directors aka, the people here.. and now.. that I want to help... Please reread my post for clarity.. Kind of you not to just say, "FAIL!".  Jonasan Mikio wrote:I have history to build you are correct, however, I think I am on the right road... History has proven if you were around at that time which you were not, or at least not as Shar, that eve arenas have extremely successful and that people are more then willing to fly frigs and cruisers into competitions. Oh I remember competitions (never been a time I wasn't Shar btw) but I think the problem with them revolves around fair fighting. Where is a problem as some combatants can not enter high security space. If fights take place in low security, then who was the snitch that brought down UBER fleet to gank everyone at the fight? If only in High Sec, other problems exist. As usual, current game mechanics do not support a robust solution except for api verification of killmails. A ladder system can be properly supported if you use killmails from the two combatants. As to witnesses, that's another ball of wax. PS: Saying fail would've been so apropos.
I already worked out these details, right now I am only looking for parties whos interests is peeked, to contact me, o api needs to be provided or anything like that, after we have talked details, I will of course hire a proper auditing service to audit my board members that I have selected.
Shar broskie, rest assured im not just coming in here with a half baked idea, and trying to get isk for it.. im not even trying to get isk. As far as I am concerned all I need is trusted members to confirm prizes and to show im not just stealing entry fees.
That is litterally all I want from any of you.... the rest I can do my self.
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Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:19:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:Jonasan Mikio wrote: you have been blocked... I would love to know how to activate block on posters.
Sadly, the block feature does not work on posters, I thought it did.... |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:23:00 -
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Jonasan Mikio wrote:Shar broskie, rest assured im not just coming in here with a half baked idea, and trying to get isk for it.. im not even trying to get isk. As far as I am concerned all I need is trusted members to confirm prizes and to show im not just stealing entry fees. Then I would make this simple suggestion: Eve mail a link to this thread to parties you would be interested in working with. I'd add, in the evemail, that if they are not interested in doing this themselves would they mind mentioning it to someone they think might be.
PS: The problem you'll have here is that API key also discloses information that market traders do not give out lightly if at all.
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Electus Ereptor
State War Academy Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:26:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:Jonasan Mikio wrote:Surely old age has not killed your ability to understand concepts in writing?, or maybe its just me, maybe I am not transcribing as well as I should... I only want API keys of my directors aka, the people here.. and now.. that I want to help... Please reread my post for clarity.. Kind of you not to just say, "FAIL!".  Jonasan Mikio wrote:I have history to build you are correct, however, I think I am on the right road... History has proven if you were around at that time which you were not, or at least not as Shar, that eve arenas have extremely successful and that people are more then willing to fly frigs and cruisers into competitions. Oh I remember competitions (never been a time I wasn't Shar btw) but I think the problem with them revolves around fair fighting. Where is a problem as some combatants can not enter high security space. If fights take place in low security, then who was the snitch that brought down UBER fleet to gank everyone at the fight? If only in High Sec, other problems exist. As usual, current game mechanics do not support a robust solution except for api verification of killmails. A ladder system can be properly supported if you use killmails from the two combatants. As to witnesses, that's another ball of wax. PS: Saying fail would've been so apropos.
Neutral RR will not show up on the KM's. Your going to need to hire refs for anything to work. And then who's to say they cant get paid off? |

Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:29:00 -
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Electus Ereptor wrote:Shar Tegral wrote:Jonasan Mikio wrote:Surely old age has not killed your ability to understand concepts in writing?, or maybe its just me, maybe I am not transcribing as well as I should... I only want API keys of my directors aka, the people here.. and now.. that I want to help... Please reread my post for clarity.. Kind of you not to just say, "FAIL!".  Jonasan Mikio wrote:I have history to build you are correct, however, I think I am on the right road... History has proven if you were around at that time which you were not, or at least not as Shar, that eve arenas have extremely successful and that people are more then willing to fly frigs and cruisers into competitions. Oh I remember competitions (never been a time I wasn't Shar btw) but I think the problem with them revolves around fair fighting. Where is a problem as some combatants can not enter high security space. If fights take place in low security, then who was the snitch that brought down UBER fleet to gank everyone at the fight? If only in High Sec, other problems exist. As usual, current game mechanics do not support a robust solution except for api verification of killmails. A ladder system can be properly supported if you use killmails from the two combatants. As to witnesses, that's another ball of wax. PS: Saying fail would've been so apropos. Neutral RR will not show up on the KM's. Your going to need to hire refs for anything to work. And then who's to say they cant get paid off?
Dude,
For real? How long are we going to keep this game of ping pong going? You say something stupid.. I batt it back to you, and then you say something else stupid and I make you eat it..
GTFO my thread, you obviously are not interested and even if you were, your nothing but pure and plainly dumb. I said I had the details worked out, I also said they would be disclosed to interested parties.
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Jonasan Mikio
Tarps Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:31:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:Jonasan Mikio wrote:Shar broskie, rest assured im not just coming in here with a half baked idea, and trying to get isk for it.. im not even trying to get isk. As far as I am concerned all I need is trusted members to confirm prizes and to show im not just stealing entry fees. Then I would make this simple suggestion: Eve mail a link to this thread to parties you would be interested in working with. I'd add, in the evemail, that if they are not interested in doing this themselves would they mind mentioning it to someone they think might be. PS: The problem you'll have here is that API key also discloses information that market traders do not give out lightly if at all.
Thats true Shar, I didn't think about market orders. However its been a long time sense I have played the trading game, but I am sure that there are still some good auditors around I can use to do my checks... |

Electus Ereptor
State War Academy Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2011.04.07 17:32:00 -
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Jonasan Mikio wrote:Electus Ereptor wrote:Shar Tegral wrote:Jonasan Mikio wrote:Surely old age has not killed your ability to understand concepts in writing?, or maybe its just me, maybe I am not transcribing as well as I should... I only want API keys of my directors aka, the people here.. and now.. that I want to help... Please reread my post for clarity.. Kind of you not to just say, "FAIL!".  Jonasan Mikio wrote:I have history to build you are correct, however, I think I am on the right road... History has proven if you were around at that time which you were not, or at least not as Shar, that eve arenas have extremely successful and that people are more then willing to fly frigs and cruisers into competitions. Oh I remember competitions (never been a time I wasn't Shar btw) but I think the problem with them revolves around fair fighting. Where is a problem as some combatants can not enter high security space. If fights take place in low security, then who was the snitch that brought down UBER fleet to gank everyone at the fight? If only in High Sec, other problems exist. As usual, current game mechanics do not support a robust solution except for api verification of killmails. A ladder system can be properly supported if you use killmails from the two combatants. As to witnesses, that's another ball of wax. PS: Saying fail would've been so apropos. Neutral RR will not show up on the KM's. Your going to need to hire refs for anything to work. And then who's to say they cant get paid off? Dude, For real? How long are we going to keep this game of ping pong going? You say something stupid.. I batt it back to you, and then you say something else stupid and I make you eat it.. GTFO my thread, you obviously are not interested and even if you were, your nothing but pure and plainly dumb. I said I had the details worked out, I also said they would be disclosed to interested parties.
whyumad?
Chill, I wasn't replying to you. If you have a problem with my post, the report button is right there for you. How are you making me eat what by the way? |

Julius Rigel
Sub-warp Racing Venture
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Posted - 2011.04.07 23:03:00 -
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Jonasan Mikio wrote:camera men record matches, we narrate them, players can watch them on oru website I'll take 10 shares hours of this please. |

Krythas
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Posted - 2011.04.08 00:02:00 -
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Jonasan Mikio wrote: Dude,
For real? How long are we going to keep this game of ping pong going? You say something stupid.. I batt it back to you, and then you say something else stupid and I make you eat it..
GTFO my thread, you obviously are not interested and even if you were, your nothing but pure and plainly dumb. I said I had the details worked out, I also said they would be disclosed to interested parties.
You really know how to endear yourself to a crowd.
First time I saw you was a thread where you were busy berating some guy as it is 'impossible' to work out a migration plan for forums to shift old data across. and how you come asking for a favour here and run about abusing people that have more of a history than yourself ?
good luck with your venture but I'd be surprised if you get much in the way of help and you might want to learn some manners.
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