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Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.29 19:38:19 -
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After coming back to eve after an unexpected break, it was nice to see some old faces, high sec looked as bad as ever with Goons openly ganking with code now. AG channels still talking about what CCP should do to stop them and so on, you know the stuff. Eve is a great game , in its time I have seen great golden fleets of the amarr role players, cavalry Ravens , pirate fleets sacking high sec, anti-pirate group hunting them down, great alliance wars , sure people can add to this. Well now is the time of the gank fleets, the tools to do this are in the game, the Goons found them(sure others did to) but as this is a sand box the tools are there to stop them, yes it means doing as the gankers do but with different targets.
Oh and what targets a fleet could have , high sec is now a target rich area, we have code and all their alts , Goons , so called merc corps who war Dec any weak group, most of jita hehe, anyway you get the pic.
So to my plan , form a group that operates as code do and start ganking back, all in cheap ships and easy to train alts. So if you want pay back or want to try out this elite PvP or just want to **** a Goon off mail me in game .
Please remember our targets are some of the lowest forms of life known to man , just be careful what you say in open channel.
It's time to act, stand with me and let's bring in a new chapter to Eve online |
Paranoid Loyd
6413
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Posted - 2015.07.29 19:44:44 -
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Oooh, been a while since we had a herding cats thread. Good luck to you and whichever cats you are able to herd.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Solitude Jones
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.07.29 19:47:42 -
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Great plan, I was looking for you today , now I know your name I'll mail you ig
Training almost done for my cata, thxs to the code sites and info on gank training, very helpful
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Malgus x
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.07.29 20:01:40 -
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I have a slave I can send you to do this job, only because you reminded me of our Great Golden Fleets |
Bellatrix Invicta
New Order Logistics CODE.
135
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Posted - 2015.07.29 20:11:40 -
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Ozzie Udan wrote:After coming back to eve after an unexpected break, it was nice to see some old faces, high sec looked as bad as ever with Goons openly ganking with code now. AG channels still talking about what CCP should do to stop them and so on, you know the stuff. Eve is a great game , in its time I have seen great golden fleets of the amarr role players, cavalry Ravens , pirate fleets sacking high sec, anti-pirate group hunting them down, great alliance wars , sure people can add to this. Well now is the time of the gank fleets, the tools to do this are in the game, the Goons found them(sure others did to) but as this is a sand box the tools are there to stop them, yes it means doing as the gankers do but with different targets.
Oh and what targets a fleet could have , high sec is now a target rich area, we have code and all their alts , Goons , so called merc corps who war Dec any weak group, most of jita hehe, anyway you get the pic.
So to my plan , form a group that operates as code do and start ganking back, all in cheap ships and easy to train alts. So if you want pay back or want to try out this elite PvP or just want to **** a Goon off mail me in game .
Please remember our targets are some of the lowest forms of life known to man , just be careful what you say in open channel.
It's time to act, stand with me and let's bring in a new chapter to Eve online
So, you're a Hall Monitor too?
Cool. Look forward to scooping your corpse.
People have been trying to "gank us back" for a long time now. Guess what? It doesn't work in the slightest. You sound like you should be in Mordu's Angels with all that anti-Goon rhetoric.
If you think you've won, think again.
The CODE always wins.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1438
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Posted - 2015.07.29 21:40:44 -
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I endorse this product and/or likely futile attempt. Good luck to you sir
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3131
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Posted - 2015.07.29 21:56:17 -
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Forum alts and NPC corps unite-- to bring down CODE. alliance and Goonswarm. Again.
You know how to beat the gankers?
Leave highsec.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1438
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:04:04 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Forum alts and NPC corps unite-- to bring down CODE. alliance and Goonswarm. Again.
You know how to beat the gankers?
Leave highsec. Shh it's getting to the good part
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
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Daerrol
Krieger Industries Inc. Phoebe Freeport Republic
207
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Posted - 2015.07.29 22:04:21 -
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3/10. Was a expecting a "take more fights cause fights are fun and T1 ships are cheap" thread. Instead got CODE. tears. |
Padma Ongrard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.07.30 12:49:56 -
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Add me if you need to make up numbers, not sure I'll be any good, never done PvP , I start to flap a bit, but maybe it's time to stand up for where I like to fly, Empire space, and yes I'm an alt why would I not be ,I have seen what can happen to one's corp at the hands of those people |
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1264
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Posted - 2015.07.30 13:11:11 -
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Padma Ongrard wrote:Add me if you need to make up numbers, not sure I'll be any good, never done PvP , I start to flap a bit, but maybe it's time to stand up for where I like to fly, Empire space, and yes I'm an alt why would I not be ,I have seen what can happen to one's corp at the hands of those people
Before you help us take down the evil doers there are a few details we need to work out.
What ships can you fly? We'll need to see your flaps and bits ahead of time. (we'll take pics or video - no need to show up in person)
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Revis Owen
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
247
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Posted - 2015.07.30 13:32:07 -
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OP,
You have been assigned AG Messiah #648729. After you quit for lack of followers and participation, can I haz ur stuff?
Agent of the New Order
http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html
If you do not have a current Highsec Operations Permit, please contact me for issuance.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2889
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Posted - 2015.07.30 15:01:11 -
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I'm curious to know exactly what a kitchen sink fleet of NPC corp characters would do against a Merc corp. Unless they themselves intend to take to suicide ganking they won't even be able to shoot the mercs in question.
White knights are going to have to stick to whoring on CODE. Catalyst kills. |
pushdogg
Tell Your Mum To Call Me Cruis3rs Cr3w
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Posted - 2015.07.30 15:13:58 -
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Very misleading thread title.
I'll be back once I've had my coffee. |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1264
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Posted - 2015.07.30 15:25:36 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:I'm curious to know exactly what a kitchen sink fleet of NPC corp characters would do against a Merc corp. Unless they themselves intend to take to suicide ganking they won't even be able to shoot the mercs in question.
White knights are going to have to stick to whoring on CODE. Catalyst kills.
I'm curious as to wether or not you are going to accept or decline my 1v1 thunderdome challenge.
Since you're a merc, I'll talk in you terms. I'd like to hire you for 100 mil isk to compete with me in a 1v1 thunerdome match. |
Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
156
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Posted - 2015.07.30 15:39:25 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:I'm curious to know exactly what a kitchen sink fleet of NPC corp characters would do against a Merc corp. Unless they themselves intend to take to suicide ganking they won't even be able to shoot the mercs in question.
White knights are going to have to stick to whoring on CODE. Catalyst kills. I'm curious as to wether or not you are going to accept or decline my 1v1 thunderdome challenge. Since you're a merc, I'll talk in you terms. I'd like to hire you for 100 mil isk to compete with me in a 1v1 thunerdome match.
Cowards don't do 1v1's bro, he said it himself. |
Renegade Heart
Carebear Miners R Us
516
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Posted - 2015.07.30 16:02:40 -
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Ozzie Udan wrote:Please remember our targets are some of the lowest forms of life known to man
I'd be down for ganking a bump Macherial for the lolz with some cool dudes, but if you are going to have this kind of biased attitude towards fellow gamers, then I'm not ganking with you!
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Xeno Szenn
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
5
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Posted - 2015.07.30 18:05:45 -
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You want to fight then more power to you but here is a reality most people fighting a group when itGÇÖs not just for fun donGÇÖt understand. The only way to break a group is to target the line members once line members stop turning up the group crumbles. You are looking at 8 to 9 months minimum commitment to break an organization. There will be set backs on any campaign that must be over came. Before you can set out on a campaign you need to build and motivate your forces and get them ready and motivated for the long haul fight. If the enemy fights dirty you have to fight dirty donGÇÖt break laws or Eula but pretty much everything else is on the table and free game. Trying to play nice or play fair for a war campaign is pointless you will have to get your hands dirty. I wish you luck and hope it brings about maximum content but it would be much easier to hire scouts, tank ships, and use gank mechanics on bumpers then try to openly fight. As for war deckerGÇÖs just run 100 or so man t3 gangs against them and be willing to withstand there weaponized boredom. Shut down pipes and trade hubs with scouts and every time one is sited run the fleet there since they canGÇÖt drop capitals in high sec there little to no risk to the fleet except for your logi going suspect but 30 to 40 blinged out guardians would deter most people from helping and if youGÇÖre at war with the war targets already you can freely engage them if they decide to fight you. Charge people for this service so you can provided srp. Webing freighter into warp, have sacrificial ecm burst ships to break locks knowing theyGÇÖll be concorded gank links and their out of corp logi when they go suspect. Pretty much kill off their content and they will go away but youGÇÖre in for hundreds if not more hours of pure boredom with no guarantee of success unless you can completely remove their content and drive their line members to go to other corps or areas of eve. Good luck to you on this endeavor if you wish to peruse it. Hope this gives you some perspective oh final note you have to do this while not losing your own members as well becuse you need to keep your fleet numbers up in all tz.
My Thoughts and Views on eve http://xenoszenn.blogspot.com/
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Xeno Szenn
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
5
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Posted - 2015.07.30 18:07:04 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:I'm curious to know exactly what a kitchen sink fleet of NPC corp characters would do against a Merc corp. Unless they themselves intend to take to suicide ganking they won't even be able to shoot the mercs in question.
White knights are going to have to stick to whoring on CODE. Catalyst kills. I'm curious as to wether or not you are going to accept or decline my 1v1 thunderdome challenge. Since you're a merc, I'll talk in you terms. I'd like to hire you for 100 mil isk to compete with me in a 1v1 thunerdome match.
1v1 has a place in eve but not in eve warfare. If it's for fun sure but if the Op is going to war then 1v1's have no business in it.
My Thoughts and Views on eve http://xenoszenn.blogspot.com/
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1445
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Posted - 2015.07.30 18:36:55 -
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Xeno Szenn wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:I'm curious to know exactly what a kitchen sink fleet of NPC corp characters would do against a Merc corp. Unless they themselves intend to take to suicide ganking they won't even be able to shoot the mercs in question.
White knights are going to have to stick to whoring on CODE. Catalyst kills. I'm curious as to wether or not you are going to accept or decline my 1v1 thunderdome challenge. Since you're a merc, I'll talk in you terms. I'd like to hire you for 100 mil isk to compete with me in a 1v1 thunerdome match. 1v1 has a place in eve but not in eve warfare. If it's for fun sure but if the Op is going to war then 1v1's have no business in it. Sush you this is forum drama spread across 3-4 posts now. Read more forums. Also where do snigg hang out again?
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1267
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Posted - 2015.07.30 18:58:45 -
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Xeno Szenn wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:I'm curious to know exactly what a kitchen sink fleet of NPC corp characters would do against a Merc corp. Unless they themselves intend to take to suicide ganking they won't even be able to shoot the mercs in question.
White knights are going to have to stick to whoring on CODE. Catalyst kills. I'm curious as to wether or not you are going to accept or decline my 1v1 thunderdome challenge. Since you're a merc, I'll talk in you terms. I'd like to hire you for 100 mil isk to compete with me in a 1v1 thunerdome match. 1v1 has a place in eve but not in eve warfare. If it's for fun sure but if the Op is going to war then 1v1's have no business in it.
I just want the 1v1 with Vimsy. It's a side thing. I've been chasing her across several threads. When she talks like a hard core mercanary - she gets invited into thunderdome. She can either accept or bleed credibility until there isn't any left. I just want the thrill of solo combat with a true professional. It's just that simple.
CODE is a self healing wound. I think you're way off base with your rank and file member direction. What they do is too easily done to disrupt. The rank and file are already -10 darting around under concord's nose. There is no group of pilots that can outdo cocord against a group of -10 gank characters. Concord is always on duty and always just a few seconds away. Humans can't compete with 23/7 coverage and those response times.
CODE will burn out when a couple of things happen. They have to realize they are doing more harm than good (this box has already been checked). The next step (and this is the big one for them) is to come to terms with letting go of the machine they are running for the greater good of the game. It's the giving up what they created part that they are stumbling over. The leadership has to be big enough to let go of a bad thing while they are personally deriving good things from it. That's no easy task for anyone - in a game or otherwise.
I don't see the line members all catching the same epiphany at the same time and moving on to other parts of the game. Once subscription numbers suffer enough they will have to let it go. Not all of their leadership has the maturity to do this, so there will also need to be a rift and a falling out. Then the cascade. We'll miss a crop or two of new blood as they unwind, but my bet is that eve is good enough to outlast this failing experiment.
They are safe from external forces by virtue of the unique nature of what they do. You can't count on the line members - new recruits are just too easy to pull into the machine. They need to burn out due to lack of targets or internal strife.
Mining in skiffs and minding your freighters is the best any outside influences can do to help them on their way. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1446
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Posted - 2015.07.30 19:25:05 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Xeno Szenn wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:I'm curious to know exactly what a kitchen sink fleet of NPC corp characters would do against a Merc corp. Unless they themselves intend to take to suicide ganking they won't even be able to shoot the mercs in question.
White knights are going to have to stick to whoring on CODE. Catalyst kills. I'm curious as to wether or not you are going to accept or decline my 1v1 thunderdome challenge. Since you're a merc, I'll talk in you terms. I'd like to hire you for 100 mil isk to compete with me in a 1v1 thunerdome match. 1v1 has a place in eve but not in eve warfare. If it's for fun sure but if the Op is going to war then 1v1's have no business in it. I just want the 1v1 with Vimsy. It's a side thing. I've been chasing her across several threads. When she talks like a hard core mercanary - she gets invited into thunderdome. She can either accept or bleed credibility until there isn't any left. I just want the thrill of solo combat with a true professional. It's just that simple. CODE is a self healing wound. I think you're way off base with your rank and file member direction. What they do is too easily done to disrupt. The rank and file are already -10 darting around under concord's nose. There is no group of pilots that can outdo cocord against a group of -10 gank characters. Concord is always on duty and always just a few seconds away. Humans can't compete with 23/7 coverage and those response times. CODE will burn out when a couple of things happen. They have to realize they are doing more harm than good (this box has already been checked). The next step (and this is the big one for them) is to come to terms with letting go of the machine they are running for the greater good of the game. It's the giving up what they created part that they are stumbling over. The leadership has to be big enough to let go of a bad thing while they are personally deriving good things from it. That's no easy task for anyone - in a game or otherwise. I don't see the line members all catching the same epiphany at the same time and moving on to other parts of the game. Once subscription numbers suffer enough they will have to let it go. Not all of their leadership has the maturity to do this, so there will also need to be a rift and a falling out. Then the cascade. We'll miss a crop or two of new blood as they unwind, but my bet is that eve is good enough to outlast this failing experiment. They are safe from external forces by virtue of the unique nature of what they do. You can't count on the line members - new recruits are just too easy to pull into the machine. They need to burn out due to lack of targets or internal strife. Mining in skiffs and minding your freighters is the best any outside influences can do to help them on their way. Show me your CCP researched and proven statistics that show code is anything but good for new player retention
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Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1268
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Posted - 2015.07.30 20:13:52 -
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It's my opinion based on my experience as a sentient human being. I've never seen Bill Gates carrying a stack of money equal to a million dollars, yet (without quantifieable proof) I still believe he is a millionaire. I can only show you pictures where he isn't burried in money so my proof is lacking.
My though process goes something like this:
Folks don't like to get suicide ganked. In 10 years the closest I've come to hearing that is the occaisional sigh/chuckle from very rich veteran players when it happens to them. I have no recollectin of any movement where the 'yeah we've been ganked' super happy fun crowd gathers to celebrate getting clubbed to death while they were bent over tieing their shoes. It's just not there.
There is only so much someone is willing to invest in time and effort to avoid getting clubbed to death while pulling up thier socks. The newer the player - the less they have invested in the game. The newer the player the more the loss impacts them - financially and socially.
No one likes getting kicked in the junk. Many folks get over it. Some folks look back at it as a turning point / right of passage or whatever, but again NO ONE LIKES GETTING KICKED IN THE JUNK. So, (try to stay with me here) 100 dudes running around kicking guys in the junk on a daily basis isn't good for the game because.... (drum roll please) no on likes getting kicked in the junk.
There are 2 sides. Kickers are alts and guys that aren't really on the block for quitting the game - they aren't subs that are going to walk away from the game.
Kickees - some get it. some buck up and move on. some go to null like the theory says. some quit.
Here's my opinion on suicide ganking. Just like pvp - it has a couple of flavors. 1. The 'it's personal' gank - super good for the game. It adds depth and meaning. A guy gets kicked in the balls for some reason. Sure it hurts, but it's also understood by both sides why it happened. 2. The 'for profit' gank - still good for the game. There is still an understandable reason that both sides can get their arms around. The guy that got kicked in the nuts had something of value, so he's been in the game long enough to have a clue. 3. The 'for a good cause' gank - this is where ganking botters and that sort of thing comes into play. Again there is a REAL reason and both sides understand it. This is where players keep the game healthy. Self policing is good for the game. 4. The 'you took a risk and paid for it' gank - this is where zydrine megacyte and his ilk zip around and gank pods on auto pilot. Ganking an overloaded hauler on auto pilot also falls in here. Auto pilot has it's risks - suicide ganking is the major one. I think pushing the autopilot button is totally consent to come back to the computer and find your pod in an unplanned place. Hard knocks - yes. Bad for the game - no.
--------------------------the line------------------------------- (ok not 'the line' but Serendipity's line)
5. Players making poop up and then running around suicide ganking large numbers of players whose only 'crime' is to be out mining is a healthy definition for internet bullying. Justifying these actions with terms like 'bot aspirant' (though a clever and initially funny term) doesn't give enough meaning to the gankees. This is where there is meaning to the one side and not the other. This is where it gets bad for the game. This is where suicide ganking does more harm to the targets than good for the game.
I gank mission cream puffs. I've never spoken out against groups like the freight club or bat country (I have spoken out against freighters having beach ball mechanics - which could be easily fixed without removing freighter ganking from the game). I've reshipped several guys that have earned. I've actually been a part of 1,2 and 3. I've tried to do 4, but I don't have the patience to wait on a goog hauler. I'm not against suicide ganking. In my opinion the whole mining permit, miner ganking and bot aspirant stuff is just bad for the game. My 'proof' is a combination of listening to folks on comms for 10 years and a basic understanding of what folks will and won't put up with while paying $15 dollars/month to have a good time.
I've never seen a picture of common sense, but I do know what it looks like. |
Bellatrix Invicta
New Order Logistics CODE.
151
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Posted - 2015.07.30 20:21:02 -
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That's a lot of words to say "CODE./suicide ganking weeds out the people who shouldn't be playing EvE anyway."
If you think you've won, think again.
The CODE always wins.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
1269
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Posted - 2015.07.30 20:31:02 -
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Bellatrix Invicta wrote:That's a lot of words to say "CODE./suicide ganking weeds out the people who shouldn't be playing EvE anyway."
We both know that's not what I said, but to be clear and focus any interpretations:
I think that what code does to miners is bad for the game. I don't think most types of suicide ganking are bad for the game. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2889
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Posted - 2015.07.30 23:03:14 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:I just want the 1v1 with Vimsy. It's a side thing. I've been chasing her across several threads. When she talks like a hard core mercanary - she gets invited into thunderdome. She can either accept or bleed credibility until there isn't any left. I just want the thrill of solo combat with a true professional. It's just that simple.
Sorry, but I just plain don't do honor duels as a matter of principle. All forms of space honor exist entirely to benefit the person in the weaker position either to help protect their ego ("I was defeated by dishonorable means so I am still better than the person who beat me.") or to negate their inability to win under normal conditions ("If you do not agree to single combat under a set of arbitrary conditions you are the lesser warrior.").
I wouldn't stand to gain anything by accepting your challenge because I don't share that belief system. In fact I'd be undermining my own position and lending yours credibility by doing so.
You are welcome to try and violence my boats at ay time through whatever means you have at your disposal and I won't begrudge you for being successful, however I'm not going to actively waste my time and effort to satisfy your sense of e-honor, sorry. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1447
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Posted - 2015.07.31 01:14:47 -
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@Serendipity Lost Tldr What little I did read suggested you don't have any backing statistics or proof of any kind and only the worst analogy I've ever seen on these forums. With basic research you can find out that bill gates is worth 78.9bil us. With basic research I can tell you suicide ganking new players has the highest rate of retention of the 3 categories of players who didn't die in their trial, people who got killed legally and people who got suicide ganked. So at this point I say you are just wrong and that's the end of it unless you can find facts and figures to refute my own
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Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3142
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Posted - 2015.07.31 03:52:53 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:@Serendipity Lost Tldr What little I did read suggested you don't have any backing statistics or proof of any kind and only the worst analogy I've ever seen on these forums. With basic research you can find out that bill gates is worth 78.9bil us. With basic research I can tell you suicide ganking new players has the highest rate of retention of the 3 categories of players who didn't die in their trial, people who got killed legally and people who got suicide ganked. So at this point I say you are just wrong and that's the end of it unless you can find facts and figures to refute my own
You are both attempting to quantify things with studies, and are therefore both right and both wrong. You can find statistics to prove anything.
I'm one of those people that responds positively to having my teeth kicked in, so yes, getting ganked and roflstomped only drives my resolve. However, I am also in the group of players who easily separates EVE from RL. Some dudes can't.
It depends on the player, and their definition of fun. Me? I don't like winning all the time. I don't play games on easy settings, and I married a succubus IRL. Bring on the pain. If there is not a danger, if there is no challenge, I don't care for it. Some share my taste, others don't, and the best thing anyone can do is accept the game for what it is and not what they want to turn it into.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1448
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Posted - 2015.07.31 06:22:42 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:@Serendipity Lost Tldr What little I did read suggested you don't have any backing statistics or proof of any kind and only the worst analogy I've ever seen on these forums. With basic research you can find out that bill gates is worth 78.9bil us. With basic research I can tell you suicide ganking new players has the highest rate of retention of the 3 categories of players who didn't die in their trial, people who got killed legally and people who got suicide ganked. So at this point I say you are just wrong and that's the end of it unless you can find facts and figures to refute my own You are both attempting to quantify things with studies, and are therefore both right and both wrong. You can find statistics to prove anything. I'm one of those people that responds positively to having my teeth kicked in, so yes, getting ganked and roflstomped only drives my resolve. However, I am also in the group of players who easily separates EVE from RL. Some dudes can't. It depends on the player, and their definition of fun. Me? I don't like winning all the time. I don't play games on easy settings, and I married a succubus IRL. Bring on the pain. If there is not a danger, if there is no challenge, I don't care for it. Some share my taste, others don't, and the best thing anyone can do is accept the game for what it is and not what they want to turn it into. Not quite. I'm using a study while serendipity used the think of the children line. I take issue with stating facts supported by only your own opinion...
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Posted - 2015.07.31 07:44:51 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:Ozzie Udan wrote:Please remember our targets are some of the lowest forms of life known to man I'd be down for ganking a bump Macherial for the lolz with some cool dudes, but if you are going to have this kind of biased attitude towards fellow gamers, then I'm not ganking with you!
Very sorry I should have said they play the role of the lowest forms of life know to man , I only know what their characters do within the game , even code has some nice people in their falling ranks.
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