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elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:20:25 -
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Long time, no see. At least for me. Since those pocos came out, I wasn't really in the mood for paying someone I don't know some isk for putting up a poco.
Anyhow I took another run at it and what do I find out? Either natures plan is to mock me or that not so random number generator had a bad day and put too many redundant plants in solar systems in dangerous places.
Either way I propose that most solar systems in nullsec and w-space get a cake and let people eat it for a change and have the planets have all base PI materials available.
No, not on one of course but that all planets together have all materials for all tier 5 products. You still can only occupy six at once so you would need focus production on your corpmates or alts but at least you can do it in one system, not look for suitable planets all over the map.
So far I only know of one solar system in New Eden that has all materials in one system but that's in empire space. Nullsec and w-space should have it better since the risk is higher.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1478
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Posted - 2015.07.31 18:51:57 -
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elitatwo wrote:Long time, no see. At least for me. Since those pocos came out, I wasn't really in the mood for paying someone I don't know some isk for putting up a poco.
Anyhow I took another run at it and what do I find out? Either natures plan is to mock me or that not so random number generator had a bad day and put too many redundant plants in solar systems in dangerous places.
Either way I propose that most solar systems in nullsec and w-space get a cake and let people eat it for a change and have the planets have all base PI materials available.
No, not on one of course but that all planets together have all materials for all tier 5 products. You still can only occupy six at once so you would need focus production on your corpmates or alts but at least you can do it in one system, not look for suitable planets all over the map.
So far I only know of one solar system in New Eden that has all materials in one system but that's in empire space. Nullsec and w-space should have it better since the risk is higher.
PI is supposed to be a good way for newer players to make ISK. Push allthe best stuff down to null in greater and easier to get quantities and you kill the market to a greater or lesser degree. If anything it would be better to boost PI in losec, give people more reason to go there. |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
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Posted - 2015.07.31 19:02:57 -
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elitatwo wrote:Long time, no see. At least for me. Since those pocos came out, I wasn't really in the mood for paying someone I don't know some isk for putting up a poco.
Anyhow I took another run at it and what do I find out? Either natures plan is to mock me or that not so random number generator had a bad day and put too many redundant plants in solar systems in dangerous places.
Either way I propose that most solar systems in nullsec and w-space get a cake and let people eat it for a change and have the planets have all base PI materials available.
No, not on one of course but that all planets together have all materials for all tier 5 products. You still can only occupy six at once so you would need focus production on your corpmates or alts but at least you can do it in one system, not look for suitable planets all over the map.
So far I only know of one solar system in New Eden that has all materials in one system but that's in empire space. Nullsec and w-space should have it better since the risk is higher. While i 100% agree that highsec PI doesnt pay enough, your idea would make it pay too well.
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.07.31 19:45:00 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:PI is supposed to be a good way for newer players to make ISK. Push allthe best stuff down to null in greater and easier to get quantities and you kill the market to a greater or lesser degree. If anything it would be better to boost PI in losec, give people more reason to go there. A lot of newfolk operate in nullsec, don't forget, and it's really easy to sell those materials out there because anywhere you live in nullsec there's at least fifteen towers in your nearby area that need regular fueling.
Lowsec already has a lot of PI resources. Check out my handy chart:
PI resource concentration by sec status:
+1.0: ## +0.9: ## +0.8: ## +0.7: ### +0.6: ### +0.5: ### +0.4: ####### +0.3: ####### +0.2: ######## +0.1: ######## -0.0: ########### -0.1: ########### -0.2: ############ -0.3: ############ -0.4: ############# -0.5: ############# -0.6: ############# -0.7: ############## -0.8: ############## -0.9: ############## -1.0: ############## c-1: ################### c-2: ################### c-3: #################### c-4: #################### c-5: ##################### c-6: #####################
disclaimer: chart may not be accurate
As long as people are funding alts entirely on PI--in highsec no less--it pays more than enough. I think you got unlucky Elitatwo, for I have not experienced the same. Try Naguton, that's where I do my PI (when I'm not too lazy to do it). It's got good outputs for ISK, is right next to Amarr, and there's some piwates there who will try to shoot you on the way to market so there's some extra fun. All in all a pretty swell location, and if I want higher materials I just buy them on the market.
Pirate ship Nightmare, can you fathom
Larger but with smaller spikes than Phantasm
The Succubus looks meaner
But the Revenant cleaner
Seems as they get bigger, the smaller spikes they has'm
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elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
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Posted - 2015.08.01 02:28:38 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:PI is supposed to be a good way for newer players to make ISK. Push allthe best stuff down to null in greater and easier to get quantities and you kill the market to a greater or lesser degree. If anything it would be better to boost PI in losec, give people more reason to go there.
That is not what I meant. What I mean is the stuff that the extractor heads are "mining" like aquenous liquids, felsic magma and stuff like that. I am by no means talking quantities the quantities are fine with highsec having the least of it and the more the security status of a solar system goes to red the more of it becomes available.
Now here is my problem. I have checked planets in nullsec and you have systems with barren, gas, magma and ice planets. Sometimes you have temperate planets and so on. The thing is you have more than enough stuff there on the planets just not all available materials to mine to make those high tier materials. In highsec you do.
Say you want to make nanite repair paste so you don't need to buy it and can make it yourself, no matter where you spend your most time. You need water, oxygen, bacteria, silicon, biomass, precsious metal, biofules, reactive metal, plasmoids, chiral structures, oxidizing compound which you have plenty of all is fine and all your 8 - 15 planets don't have any industrial fibers (extractor head need to "mine" autotrophs).
While it's nice that the newbies want to make isk and all but I want to make some too or at least don't want to spend any when I can do things myself. But your "better sec" system doesn't have any industrial fibers - yeay?
You can look at the low and null planets, most of this stuff is there but in null and w-space you get more of everything else but the one thing is missing or other stuff.
What are you supposed to do then go from Paragon Soul to Jita in a 20 billion freighter and "import" it?
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
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Posted - 2015.08.01 10:24:50 -
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elitatwo wrote:[quote=Corraidhin Farsaidh]...the stuff I misunderstood as I was posting whilst half asleep...
Apologies, I misunderstood your meaning. I would have thought the spread of planets would be the same in null as in other areas. For my PI can't get everything in one system or even within a few systems of each other so have to travel a fair bit to gather everything but then I thought that was intentional to force pilots to actually move in space. I can't comment on the spread of planets in null but perhaps they should run a quick look over it to check the spread is how they intended it to be. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
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Posted - 2015.08.01 18:59:43 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:elitatwo wrote:[quote=Corraidhin Farsaidh]...the stuff I misunderstood as I was posting whilst half asleep... Apologies, I misunderstood your meaning. I would have thought the spread of planets would be the same in null as in other areas. For my PI can't get everything in one system or even within a few systems of each other so have to travel a fair bit to gather everything but then I thought that was intentional to force pilots to actually move in space. I can't comment on the spread of planets in null but perhaps they should run a quick look over it to check the spread is how they intended it to be.
No worries! I was half asleep myself and I didn't really know how to write this since it is not a complaint but a proposal and no I don't intent to break EVE with that.
While I can see some reasons to spread planetary poo to different systems in k-space, w-space people get the short end of the stick. W-space is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you get until you open it and while most alliances tend to stay in one place and do pve and pvp somewhere else.
Of course that means that planetary poo cannot be spread out to different systems because you will have to wait up to many months until you open it again which makes PI in all w-space very inconvenient.
There is more than enough risk involed to haul all that back into k-space for trading so it shouldn't be out of the question.
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