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Whisperen
Delta vane Corp. Mordus Angels
43
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Posted - 2015.08.02 00:02:02 -
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Those are not problems they are features. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
204
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Posted - 2015.08.02 00:22:52 -
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Games should be fun, not a love hate relationship. If games stop being fun they become something we try to get detached from and relax: REALITY. Reality with the daily mundane grind and eventual cubicle romance decorated with post-it sentimental reminders to buy toilet paper on the way back home. And so it goes Eve online seems more and more like a failing marriage. A lot of effort put into it but... ya know. Yeah I know Eve is real but... ya know. Alt tabbing to play another game while playing a game is... ya know... adultery. CCP better not ask what other people are playing while alt tabbing, might find out they're being cheated with Farmville... ya know...
"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16798
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Posted - 2015.08.02 00:29:49 -
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Icycle wrote:I disagree with the limitations suggested on entosing. Based on my observations is the majority of this large alliances althought they are very powerfull they all have the same issue. The issue is vast amount of unused space. Every second system its empty. As a result large amount of jumps have to be perfomed. This is specially true in the Drone region, CFC space and Catch. The drone region been the worst where only 3 out of 10 systems are actually in use. I think its time they adjust the amount of sov systems the occupy from the ones they dont really occupy. If you drop those unused space you dont have to defend it. Why keep sov if you dont use it?
We see this all the time with the CFC. We got people coming from all the corners of the globe for a 20 man fleet and they show up in 80+ minimum. They even bring supers and carriers. The amount of jumps they are doing is too much and all because they want to keep vast amount of empty space which they clearly are having difficulty defending. Drop sov systems and get your numbers into the core system. If you look at the systems that are been attacked, the vast majority are insignificant systems cos no one lives in them aka empty.
I believe the worst idea is to give zero m/s speed to entosis ships. Why would anybody bother entosing if all you have to do is jump a titan and snipe it. After all CFC has tried to do this many times already.
I can tell you this with all sincerity. We have been waiting for this changes forever. Now that they are here we are trully enjoying it. We finally can actually herass a larger entity and pick a fight when we want and disapear into the jungle when we dont want to fight them. I think now gorilla warfare has a great future in eve at the momment. We have forced the CFC to reevalute their possition and hire lots of renters to keep the indexes of their systems up. This is what a 1000 man alliance has been able to archive vs a 50k coalition of alliances.
I only ask CCP to look at the sov systems and see how many are actually have presence or used effectively. The truth is right there! You are keeping systems you can not defend and expanded way too much and therefore you spend most of the night jumping way too much.
The "CFC" actually has one of the highest player per system densities in sov null.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
10
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Posted - 2015.08.02 00:42:15 -
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Malcanis wrote:Icycle wrote:I disagree with the limitations suggested on entosing. Based on my observations is the majority of this large alliances althought they are very powerfull they all have the same issue. The issue is vast amount of unused space. Every second system its empty. As a result large amount of jumps have to be perfomed. This is specially true in the Drone region, CFC space and Catch. The drone region been the worst where only 3 out of 10 systems are actually in use. I think its time they adjust the amount of sov systems the occupy from the ones they dont really occupy. If you drop those unused space you dont have to defend it. Why keep sov if you dont use it?
We see this all the time with the CFC. We got people coming from all the corners of the globe for a 20 man fleet and they show up in 80+ minimum. They even bring supers and carriers. The amount of jumps they are doing is too much and all because they want to keep vast amount of empty space which they clearly are having difficulty defending. Drop sov systems and get your numbers into the core system. If you look at the systems that are been attacked, the vast majority are insignificant systems cos no one lives in them aka empty.
I believe the worst idea is to give zero m/s speed to entosis ships. Why would anybody bother entosing if all you have to do is jump a titan and snipe it. After all CFC has tried to do this many times already.
I can tell you this with all sincerity. We have been waiting for this changes forever. Now that they are here we are trully enjoying it. We finally can actually herass a larger entity and pick a fight when we want and disapear into the jungle when we dont want to fight them. I think now gorilla warfare has a great future in eve at the momment. We have forced the CFC to reevalute their possition and hire lots of renters to keep the indexes of their systems up. This is what a 1000 man alliance has been able to archive vs a 50k coalition of alliances.
I only ask CCP to look at the sov systems and see how many are actually have presence or used effectively. The truth is right there! You are keeping systems you can not defend and expanded way too much and therefore you spend most of the night jumping way too much. The "CFC" actually has one of the highest player per system densities in sov null.
i beg to differ. Go into pure blind and see. You will be hard pressed to find many. Fade , Tribute has also alot of systems as well as space around Venal. A lot of unused systems or has very little people in system. The only real region that get alot of use is Deklein and Branch. Also its in the ratting statistics! Which also prove my point |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
801
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Posted - 2015.08.02 03:01:17 -
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Icycle wrote:Malcanis wrote: The "CFC" actually has one of the highest player per system densities in sov null.
I beg to differ. Go into pure blind and see. You will be hard pressed to find many CFC's. Fade , Tribute has also alot of systems as well as space around Venal. A lot of unused systems or has very little people in system. The only real region that get alot of use is Deklein and Branch. Also its in the ratting statistics! Which also prove my point. I know where I live after all I kill in it every day and do several roams. Before the Aegis expansion, Pure Blind was really not good space. Most of what we have of Pure Blind has really bad truesec, none of the "good" anomalies would spawn even if we ratted it up to level 5, and even then Pure Blind was not "ours" to rat in. Then six days before Aegis hits BAM! Fozzie drops that on us. Suddenly all that cruddy space no one really wanted, or could use unless it had a money moon or jump bridge, had a lot less suck attached to it. Hell, people are going to be able to actually make some money in them running the anomalies, not as great as with "good" truesec systems, but decent ISK none the less. That last minute change caught us off guard, and a few of us are trying to rectify that. Talk to a Goonswarm rental agent today. (Certain terms and conditions apply.)
"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves."
The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
3142
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Posted - 2015.08.02 05:56:13 -
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Icycle wrote:
I beg to differ. Go into pure blind and see. You will be hard pressed to find many CFC's. Fade , Tribute has also alot of systems as well as space around Venal. A lot of unused systems or has very little people in system. The only real region that get alot of use is Deklein and Branch. Also its in the ratting statistics! Which also prove my point. I know where I live after all I kill in it every day and do several roams.
I too can cherry pick data points....
Let me see,
Goonswarm: 13954/103 = 135.5 pilots/system FCON: 4896/80 = 61.2 pilots/system Co2: 2857/34 = 84 pilots/system Get Off My Lawn: = 2121/53 = 40 pilots/system EXE: 1221/14 = 87 pilots/system
Compare this too Legion of Death, Shadow of Death, Brothers of Tangra and we see vastly smaller numbers as in the teens or even single digits for Shadow of Death.
Does this mean that each and every system in Deklein will have 135.5 pilots in it? No, it's an average. Some will have more, some less. Keeping in mind that not all of them will be logged in at once either.
So now we know why some alliances are struggling with Fozziesov. I'd say working as intended (note: I'm not saying it is good or bad here, but if the intent was to free up unused systems...well, sounds like it is going to happen one way or the other....). If you insist on remaining as an "elite and exclusive alliance" and also insist on holding a large number of systems....you are going to be very busy going forward in game.
This information was presented earlier too.
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence
So Local Chat vanished, now what?
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Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
335
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Posted - 2015.08.02 07:42:09 -
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PROBLEM: nullsec got all buddy-buddy, made non-aggression pacts and wouldnt fight except one staged fight per year to ensure that CCP was nullsecs b**ch, since CCP needed that one fight for advertising purposes.
SOLUTION: introduce new game mechanics so that smaller groups that are not part of the buddy-buddy system can stir up nullsec and get them to actually defend their holdings.
We can check this one off and look at nullsecs thread which should have been titled, "pout, stomp our feet and cry like a two year old", as proof of effectiveness.
PROBLEM: nullsec apparently cannot combat low skill pilots.
SOLUTION: everyone that has every been ganked by a nullsec 3 week old pilot laughs their collective asses off and decries nullsecs attitude on the subject as seriously hypocritical.
PROBLEM: Nullsec that has long held that CCP shouldnt be holding players hands suddenly wants theirs held.
SOLUTION: stand agape at the criminal levels of hypocrisy nullsec is showing on the issue, and of course laugh our asses off some more.
PROBLEM: seeming exploit allows entosing attacker to move the defense window.
SOLUTION: hotfix the issue because unlike the rest of this pout-fest this is actually a real problem that needs addressing.
PROBLEM: nullsec doesnt like being annoyed, while spending more than a decade doing this to the rest of EVE.
SOLUTION: I have to use the word hypocrisy yet again, seriously, wtf ???
PROBLEM: nullsec is so accustomed to sitting on their collective asses they cant be bothered to go collect intel on an agressor.
SOLUTION: DO NOTHING but at the same time wonder out loud why the **** were game mecahnics in place that would allow these lazy asses to hold SOV for so long when it has become abundantly clear that they dont deserve their holdings ?
PROBLEM: Alliances want to work together in close knit cooperative groups again like the, 'Good Ol Days".
SOLUTION: Repeat oft used nullsec mantra frequently heard when highsec didnt want some change put into the game, adapt and HTFU !
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6877
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Posted - 2015.08.02 07:50:56 -
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Malcanis wrote:"A BLOO BLOO MY RENTAL INCOME!"
*snicker*
*snort*
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6878
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Posted - 2015.08.02 08:43:16 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:I don't care if you halve capital ship DPS and tank, give them a damn role already. Caps aren't in the world best position right now. I don't think anyone is disagreeing there. Exactly what role they should have, that's the interesting question. If you have any thoughts, I'd certainly like to hear them
Death Star is a good start for a role.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6734
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Posted - 2015.08.02 08:54:59 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:PROBLEM: Alliances want to work together in close knit cooperative groups again like the, 'Good Ol Days".
SOLUTION: Repeat oft used nullsec mantra frequently heard when highsec didnt want some change put into the game, adapt and HTFU ! No, working together in close knit cooperative groups is the solution.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Ludi Burek
Combined Imperial Fleet Darwinism.
305
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Posted - 2015.08.02 09:23:01 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Maldiro Selkurk wrote:PROBLEM: Alliances want to work together in close knit cooperative groups again like the, 'Good Ol Days".
SOLUTION: Repeat oft used nullsec mantra frequently heard when highsec didnt want some change put into the game, adapt and HTFU ! No, working together in close knit cooperative groups is the solution.
I dunno, it just doesn't have the same "righteous retribution for your high sec crimes" vibe which is needed. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1000
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Posted - 2015.08.02 09:40:59 -
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Malcanis wrote:Emma Kado wrote:"It Is Not the Strongest of the Species that Survives But the Most Adaptable to change" - Charles Darwin.
Any change to any system within EVE will come with those who win from the changes and those who will lose from the changes. I would like to point out that all the signatories to this post are the powers of old, those who adapted to the dominion sov system and built their empires using the tactics and strategies that worked for that system and those times. They are obviously the ones losing out on the new system, but does that make fozziesov a bad system?
I would ike to offer a counter perspective as a new alliance taking sov in nullsec for the first time.
We (The CORVOS) were determined that we would not become a part of a coalition when we made the move to sov null. Many of our leadership had been involved in sov before but we wanted to own our space in our own right. Ours to hold or lose on our own merits. We made some allies, but no supercoalitions with blues for 30 jumps. So far we have been able to hold off much larger groups with better ship comps and numerical advantage by adapting to fozziesov. Small teams (2-3 pilots) have been able to effectivley stop the enemy gaining any control whatsoever. sure we havent won every fight but we have been able to maintain our sov without simply being forced to face the enemy head on. We can fight hit and run gurella style, deny the enemy pilots their F1 pressing sessions while giving our own pilots invaluable small gang experince as we destory entosis ships and their escorts. Fozziesov has allowed us, as well as many other smaller independant groups to compete in the sov game.
Of course it is no wonder the empires of olde are unhappy, they lose out on this. Their weaknesses of old are now gaping holes in their battle plans. Their pilots and FCs will need to change if their alliances are to be able to survive.
No longer are fights decided on one single massive engagement. Individual pilot skill matters. A small team of commited and experienced pilots can hold off or at least delay a larger force. Big F1 pressing fests are not what every player wants. I want to be able to, mid fight, take command of a small detachment of a larger fleet and hit enemy positions and eliminate enemy entosis ships and their escorts.
If you cannot adapt to the new system you will die. And those who can adapt and survive will take your place at the top of the food chain. You will not be able to have massive afk empires that noone can ever threaten.
Welcome to fozziesov boys.
This isnt to say its perfect. UAXDeath does make some good points, such as not having to clean up uncontested nodes. But with CCPs new release cycle they will be able to monitor and change the system as it needs. But the system as a whole is great, if the powers of old are complaining its an indication that fozziesov is working.
And to CCP: Keep up the good work. Well said and bravo to your alliance, good sir Keep on Doing It Right.
These guys are doing it right up until PL and the Imperium hell camp every single one of their systems and break them in one swift and brutal campaign, which will be made even more brutal when stations can be destroyed.
However I like what I am seeing so far and that people who control space without using it are complaining.
Many of the Russians alliances operating around Stain still have a ton of people doing missions in Stain, they should be kicking them to work on the ADM.
Ella's Snack bar. With all the data supplied on API/CREST the game should be renamed to Jabber Online, look something to kill, ping everyone!!!!
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6734
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Posted - 2015.08.02 10:24:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Many of the Russians alliances operating around Stain still have a ton of people doing missions in Stain, they should be kicking them to work on the ADM. pvesov, the hero we deserve
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Coral Theisman
Space Ants Independent Operators Consortium
10
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Posted - 2015.08.02 10:36:48 -
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So guys, let's have 20-200 unoccupied systems we cannot realisticslly cover and let's moan when we have to do something to defend them.
Fozziesov is fundamentally right, it just needs some tweaks. Defend the systems where you live, don't care about the systems where you don't live. Seems like people tend to freak out when they cannot have millions of empty systems for renting.
I feel that only a couple of alliances actually bothered to think further than "muh rentals", really.
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Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
12
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Posted - 2015.08.02 10:52:09 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Icycle wrote:
I beg to differ. Go into pure blind and see. You will be hard pressed to find many CFC's. Fade , Tribute has also alot of systems as well as space around Venal. A lot of unused systems or has very little people in system. The only real region that get alot of use is Deklein and Branch. Also its in the ratting statistics! Which also prove my point. I know where I live after all I kill in it every day and do several roams.
I too can cherry pick data points.... Let me see, Goonswarm: 13954/103 = 135.5 pilots/system FCON: 4896/80 = 61.2 pilots/system Co2: 2857/34 = 84 pilots/system Get Off My Lawn: = 2121/53 = 40 pilots/system EXE: 1221/14 = 87 pilots/system Compare this too Legion of Death, Shadow of Death, Brothers of Tangra and we see vastly smaller numbers as in the teens or even single digits for Shadow of Death. Does this mean that each and every system in Deklein will have 135.5 pilots in it? No, it's an average. Some will have more, some less. Keeping in mind that not all of them will be logged in at once either. So now we know why some alliances are struggling with Fozziesov. I'd say working as intended (note: I'm not saying it is good or bad here, but if the intent was to free up unused systems...well, sounds like it is going to happen one way or the other....). If you insist on remaining as an "elite and exclusive alliance" and also insist on holding a large number of systems....you are going to be very busy going forward in game. This information was presented earlier too.
you are repeating what i already mentioned abov about the drone region having the largest unoccupied space. CFC still has lot of space unoccupied and that forces them to do vast jumps. If it wasnt they will not be coming from declein+branch to pure blind. Wether the space is good or bad it does not make a difference. You do not live in pure blind so makes it useless having to defend it. If you want to keep them fine, more entosis for me, but dont whine then when you got to do a lot of jumps to defend. Make up your mind. You cant have everything favouring your side. You got to make a choice and select what space you want to keep. And if the space is too far, then it may not be to the best interest to protect specially if you dont live in it. Which is my point. I love gorrilla warfare and entosing is a really big plus for us. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16803
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Posted - 2015.08.02 10:58:09 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Malcanis wrote:Emma Kado wrote:"It Is Not the Strongest of the Species that Survives But the Most Adaptable to change" - Charles Darwin.
Any change to any system within EVE will come with those who win from the changes and those who will lose from the changes. I would like to point out that all the signatories to this post are the powers of old, those who adapted to the dominion sov system and built their empires using the tactics and strategies that worked for that system and those times. They are obviously the ones losing out on the new system, but does that make fozziesov a bad system?
I would ike to offer a counter perspective as a new alliance taking sov in nullsec for the first time.
We (The CORVOS) were determined that we would not become a part of a coalition when we made the move to sov null. Many of our leadership had been involved in sov before but we wanted to own our space in our own right. Ours to hold or lose on our own merits. We made some allies, but no supercoalitions with blues for 30 jumps. So far we have been able to hold off much larger groups with better ship comps and numerical advantage by adapting to fozziesov. Small teams (2-3 pilots) have been able to effectivley stop the enemy gaining any control whatsoever. sure we havent won every fight but we have been able to maintain our sov without simply being forced to face the enemy head on. We can fight hit and run gurella style, deny the enemy pilots their F1 pressing sessions while giving our own pilots invaluable small gang experince as we destory entosis ships and their escorts. Fozziesov has allowed us, as well as many other smaller independant groups to compete in the sov game.
Of course it is no wonder the empires of olde are unhappy, they lose out on this. Their weaknesses of old are now gaping holes in their battle plans. Their pilots and FCs will need to change if their alliances are to be able to survive.
No longer are fights decided on one single massive engagement. Individual pilot skill matters. A small team of commited and experienced pilots can hold off or at least delay a larger force. Big F1 pressing fests are not what every player wants. I want to be able to, mid fight, take command of a small detachment of a larger fleet and hit enemy positions and eliminate enemy entosis ships and their escorts.
If you cannot adapt to the new system you will die. And those who can adapt and survive will take your place at the top of the food chain. You will not be able to have massive afk empires that noone can ever threaten.
Welcome to fozziesov boys.
This isnt to say its perfect. UAXDeath does make some good points, such as not having to clean up uncontested nodes. But with CCPs new release cycle they will be able to monitor and change the system as it needs. But the system as a whole is great, if the powers of old are complaining its an indication that fozziesov is working.
And to CCP: Keep up the good work. Well said and bravo to your alliance, good sir Keep on Doing It Right. These guys are doing it right up until PL and the Imperium hell camp every single one of their systems and break them in one swift and brutal campaign, which will be made even more brutal when stations can be destroyed. However I like what I am seeing so far and that people who control space without using it are complaining. Many of the Russians alliances operating around Stain still have a ton of people doing missions in Stain, they should be kicking them to work on the ADM. EDIT: One thing I want to say on this is that a lot of those alliances need to create a buffer zone of systems and stations to get around the hell camp risk from one of the super powers, that is their additional cost so to speak. I am also interested to see just how far from the NPC areas PL will move for a campaign, will be interesting to see. And a final off topic comment, good catch to the Initiative on that NCDOT move, I have always had a certain level of respect for the Initiative.
But the point that is being so graphically, if unintentionally, illustrated by this thread is that sov space will now belong to the people who want it enough to keep fighting for it. PL may well come visit them, sure. How long will they stay and fight for it?
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6735
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Posted - 2015.08.02 11:26:04 -
[167] - Quote
Mordus' Ceptors, eh.
Make the most of trollsov.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
13
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Posted - 2015.08.02 11:39:26 -
[168] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Mordus' Ceptors, eh.
Make the most of trollsov.
All the last 7 systems we entosed were corm fleet. Get it right . Its not troll sov its called guerilla tactics and not letting you breath. I entosed one in a cruiser the other day and attempted to get a second |
Tam Arai
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.08.02 11:47:04 -
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has anyone lost a their capital yet?
or is just systems in the middle of nowhere that defenders have no presence? |
Commander Spurty
Dimension Door We need wards.
1534
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Posted - 2015.08.02 11:49:10 -
[170] - Quote
Wouldn't passing Sov to another entity give a 7 day invulnerability boon?
If so, eek! How simple to make it impossible to take that space as 6 days and 23 hours after the first transfer, you just push it back to the original owners for another 7 days invulnerability?
I'd sooner there was zero ways to sneak that in.
There are good ships
And wood ships
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are
Spaceships
Built by CCP
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Spurty
Dimension Door We need wards.
1534
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Posted - 2015.08.02 11:49:10 -
[171] - Quote
Wouldn't passing Sov to another entity give a 7 day invulnerability boon?
If so, eek! How simple to make it impossible to take that space as 6 days and 23 hours after the first transfer, you just push it back to the original owners for another 7 days invulnerability?
I'd sooner there was zero ways to sneak that in.
There are good ships
And wood ships
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are
Spaceships
Built by CCP
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1001
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Posted - 2015.08.02 12:09:49 -
[172] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Dracvlad wrote:These guys are doing it right up until PL and the Imperium hell camp every single one of their systems and break them in one swift and brutal campaign, which will be made even more brutal when stations can be destroyed.
However I like what I am seeing so far and that people who control space without using it are complaining.
Many of the Russians alliances operating around Stain still have a ton of people doing missions in Stain, they should be kicking them to work on the ADM.
EDIT: One thing I want to say on this is that a lot of those alliances need to create a buffer zone of systems and stations to get around the hell camp risk from one of the super powers, that is their additional cost so to speak. I am also interested to see just how far from the NPC areas PL will move for a campaign, will be interesting to see.
And a final off topic comment, good catch to the Initiative on that NCDOT move, I have always had a certain level of respect for the Initiative. But the point that is being so graphically, if unintentionally, illustrated by this thread is that sov space will now belong to the people who want it enough to keep fighting for it. PL may well come visit them, sure. How long will they stay and fight for it?
Yes you are right I do not disagree, however those alliances have to have a strategy to deal with the two super powers coming for good fights which us lessor mortals know as being a total curb stomp, so do you set up to play smart or do you set yourself up to be a harvest of tears, being limited to only the systems you can defend makes the curb stomp so much more likely and I really wonder just how that will pan out with destructible stations. You know the answer because that is why you guys joined the Imperium, before Aegis Sov that is true, but you understood that!
Ella's Snack bar. With all the data supplied on API/CREST the game should be renamed to Jabber Online, look something to kill, ping everyone!!!!
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16805
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Posted - 2015.08.02 12:11:16 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Malcanis wrote:Dracvlad wrote:These guys are doing it right up until PL and the Imperium hell camp every single one of their systems and break them in one swift and brutal campaign, which will be made even more brutal when stations can be destroyed.
However I like what I am seeing so far and that people who control space without using it are complaining.
Many of the Russians alliances operating around Stain still have a ton of people doing missions in Stain, they should be kicking them to work on the ADM.
EDIT: One thing I want to say on this is that a lot of those alliances need to create a buffer zone of systems and stations to get around the hell camp risk from one of the super powers, that is their additional cost so to speak. I am also interested to see just how far from the NPC areas PL will move for a campaign, will be interesting to see.
And a final off topic comment, good catch to the Initiative on that NCDOT move, I have always had a certain level of respect for the Initiative. But the point that is being so graphically, if unintentionally, illustrated by this thread is that sov space will now belong to the people who want it enough to keep fighting for it. PL may well come visit them, sure. How long will they stay and fight for it? Yes you are right I do not disagree, however those alliances have to have a strategy to deal with the two super powers coming for good fights which us lessor mortals know as being a total curb stomp, so do you set up to play smart or do you set yourself up to be a harvest of tears, being limited to only the systems you can defend makes the curb stomp so much more likely and I really wonder just how that will pan out with destructible stations. You know the answer because that is why you guys joined the Imperium, before Aegis Sov that is true, but you understood that!
Well actually we keep our stuff in NPC 0.0 and pretty much always have done.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
16805
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Posted - 2015.08.02 12:12:58 -
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Icycle wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Mordus' Ceptors, eh.
Make the most of trollsov. All the last 7 systems we entosed were corm fleet. Get it right . Its not troll sov its called guerilla tactics and not letting you breath. I entosed one in a cruiser the other day and attempted to get a second
If you want it more than them, you'll deserve it and you'll get it.
If they care enough about a system to put a couple of RLML Caracals and a damp Keres into it, then you won't.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Jenshae Chiroptera
2155
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Posted - 2015.08.02 12:16:32 -
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Malcanis wrote:So any way, now that the buggy whip manufacturers have vented their pwecious feewings about allowing those nasty horrible auto-mobiles on the roads... This is beneath you. Show us where you stand on the "merits" of Fozzie SOV that have not already been shot down.Malcanis wrote:If you want it more than them, you'll deserve it and you'll get it. If they care enough about a system to put a couple of RLML Caracals and a damp Keres into it, then you won't. In other words, "Can you grief a system until they give up defending it or can you ECM until they give up griefing?"
I think at this point, you are harping on about the story you bought when Fozzie's team conceived this abortion and now you can't let it go.
"HTFU" "We are hard and bored / not interested."
Dominion SOV took how long for half the player base to be bored of it? How many years? Fozzie SOV has hit that point in three weeks.
It is SOV dumbed down and less engaging.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
13
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Posted - 2015.08.02 12:30:07 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:Tappits wrote:UAxDEATH wrote:Alliances signed petition
- Alexander Leros, leader Hard Alliance
- Fafer, leader Tr0pa de elite., curator Brothers of Tangra
- Frosch Koenig, leader Synergy of Steel
- Garst Tyrell, leader Triumvirate.
- I Sam, leader Solar Fleet
- Lorianna Lee, leader Dream Fleet
- NullParseException, leader Soviet-Union
- titanokiller, leader Infinity Space.
- tru drksniper, leader Advent of Fate
- UAxDEATH, leader Legion of xXDEATHXx
- Unionn, leader The Afterlife.
- Redwyne Vyruk, manager of BOT and manager of XWX Shadow_of_xXDEATHXx
What wars have any of these people done with the new sov system that lets them make informed ideas on how to fix a sov system thatGÇÖs just over two weeks old that will affect every single person in null sec? What has any one done in the new sov system other than get some unused systems attacked? None of these people speak for me. None whatsoever. Furthermore, Garst Tyrell has signed this RMT rental whine without any kind of mandate from the alliance, and he is acting here as a single player, and as such his personal opinions in no way represent the official stance of Triumvirate alliance.
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Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
984
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Posted - 2015.08.02 12:51:13 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:I too can cherry pick data points....
Let me see,
Goonswarm: 13954/103 = 135.5 pilots/system FCON: 4896/80 = 61.2 pilots/system Co2: 2857/34 = 84 pilots/system Get Off My Lawn: = 2121/53 = 40 pilots/system EXE: 1221/14 = 87 pilots/system
Compare this too Legion of Death, Shadow of Death, Brothers of Tangra and we see vastly smaller numbers as in the teens or even single digits for Shadow of Death. You should hang out with RU community sometimes. If someone thought that "textbook goon" has a low opinion on average "pubbie", he'll have a lot to re-evaluate after the experience.
And you guys are suggesting them to not just tolerate, but recruit such people. Jokes on you.
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
429
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Posted - 2015.08.02 13:09:09 -
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EVE community is a strange. Saying "a peaceful mining barge of a new player must be immune to the attack of a T1 destroyer" is hilarious tears, and the reply is HTFU & L2P. Saying "the trillion ISK printing machine of the 1000+ strong empires ran by the oldest players must be immune to the attack of an entosis ship" is a serious suggestion and get +1s.
My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1001
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Posted - 2015.08.02 13:36:45 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:EVE community is a strange. Saying "a peaceful mining barge of a new player must be immune to the attack of a T1 destroyer" is hilarious tears, and the reply is HTFU & L2P. Saying "the trillion ISK printing machine of the 1000+ strong empires ran by the oldest players must be immune to the attack of an entosis ship" is a serious suggestion and get +1s.
And you just showed what a silly bean you are, the thing about mining barges and exhumers is that their tank should be able to tak a single T1 destroyer until Concord arrive in a 0.5 system, personally I would make it about 4 T1 destroyers in a 0.5 system. There you go requires a team approach which is what Eve is all about, those people can now go HTFU and play as a team..., wait that only applies to mission runners and the like as they keep sprouting on and on in the forums, facepalm and all that!
I agree with you on the second part of your post, these people deserve to lose their space, I was shocked at TRI signing on to that but found it to be an out of touch CEO, what ho and all that. I am in Stain at the moment and I see loads of these people running level 4 missions, including the mission alt of the leader of the Soviet-Union alliance, their crying is so funny when their leaders can't even do the grind...
Ella's Snack bar. With all the data supplied on API/CREST the game should be renamed to Jabber Online, look something to kill, ping everyone!!!!
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1001
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Posted - 2015.08.02 13:41:12 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Many of the Russians alliances operating around Stain still have a ton of people doing missions in Stain, they should be kicking them to work on the ADM. pvesov, the hero we deserve
What you mean strategic work to enable your PvP group to do their job easier, you should go speak to your alliance leader again, he certainly understands it!
Ella's Snack bar. With all the data supplied on API/CREST the game should be renamed to Jabber Online, look something to kill, ping everyone!!!!
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