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Rhamnousia Nosferatu
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Posted - 2015.08.10 10:29:08 -
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So folks known for pushing people's buttons to get them raging are complaining about people raging. Well, unless they are once again collectively trolling (which is most likely), this is bloody amusing.
Not justifying folks who fall into trap that CODErs so like to set with their 'calm down miner' narrative, but there's a much simpler solution to all the homophobic, racist and other TOS breaking speech - simply report the guy and don't make much of it. However, as we all know, CODE in fact thrives on getting people to rage and then laughing about it. So - once again, if you are seriously complaining about that happening, there is something really wrong with you guys. Also, don't tell me "I'm in CODE and I don't do that" since I would not stay for a moment with an organisation publicly known for being systematic in such behaviour.
Also, Drac, you should know better then trying to reason with them |
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Posted - 2015.08.10 10:30:39 -
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Avvy wrote:Dracvlad wrote: As the objective is to kick carebears out the game then CODE has won Eve at that point.
So I guess you have proof of that, so where is the evidence? Charging 10 million for a years permit doesn't seem like a very effective way of doing what you are suggesting.
Maybe them (CODE) regularly boasting about folks biomassing due to their ganks on minerbumping would be evidence enough? |
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Posted - 2015.08.10 10:41:38 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:So folks known for pushing people's buttons to get them raging are complaining about people raging. Well, unless they are once again collectively trolling (which is most likely), this is bloody amusing. Not justifying folks who fall into trap that CODErs so like to set with their 'calm down miner' narrative, but there's a much simpler solution to all the homophobic, racist and other TOS breaking speech - simply report the guy and don't make much of it. However, as we all know, CODE in fact thrives on getting people to rage and then laughing about it. So - once again, if you are seriously complaining about that happening, there is something really wrong with you guys. Also, don't tell me "I'm in CODE and I don't do that" since I would not stay for a moment with an organisation publicly known for being systematic in such behaviour. Also, Drac, you should know better then trying to reason with them Funny to hear this from person that constantly ganks people using alts.
Well, then you know more about my alts then I do. That aside, not sure how ganking people relates to managing TOS breaking communication. Btw, I've filed more petitions for that (TOS breaking speech) coming from CODE and Goon/CFC members since I started anti-ganking then I did while I did ganks myself. I think that speaks enough about the 'cool' ganker kids. |
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Posted - 2015.08.10 10:53:44 -
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Avvy wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Avvy wrote:Dracvlad wrote: As the objective is to kick carebears out the game then CODE has won Eve at that point.
So I guess you have proof of that, so where is the evidence? Charging 10 million for a years permit doesn't seem like a very effective way of doing what you are suggesting. Maybe them (CODE) regularly boasting about folks biomassing due to their ganks on minerbumping would be evidence enough? With any organisation you will always have a few that will be there just because they like the way the organisation operates and it suits their personalities. But that doesn't mean they're all the same. Just as in RL say the police force will attract certain types of individuals. But this is a game and believe it or not people do RP even as the bad guys even when they're not bad in RL. If I'd blown someone up and they started with a bad attitude to me, I'd more likely wind them up just because of their attitude and I'm not a bad person in RL.
This is a common thing you'll come across when talking about some 'problematic' aspects of CODE, however while guilt by association is not really something I like to do, it is one thing saying that all gankers are bad (since gankers really vary wildly in what and how they do it) and saying that CODE as an organisation does really bad things. If you chose to stay in CODE with knowledge of what and how they do, then I have to say you're agreeing to the actions that formed their public image. Again, I don't care for ganks, but I would not want to be part of the same group of people that does their forum/blog thing, regardless of the amount of content and ease of participation being provided by such a group. |
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Posted - 2015.08.10 11:08:35 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote: If you chose to stay in CODE with knowledge of what and how they do, then I have to assume you're agreeing to the actions that formed their public image.
I agree with their actions precisely because I have knowledge of what they do and how they do it. It's the people ignorant of such things that want to define others by it.
Heh. So, I was talking about them getting folks to rage and then gloating about it on their website. Doing stuff like bonus rooms (since they were discussed on code forums at the time of it all happening). Such things, not ganks (as emphasized in my post before). Well, if you agree with those actions, what can I say, there is nothing we can talk about. |
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Posted - 2015.08.10 11:18:34 -
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Avvy wrote:Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote: This is a common thing you'll come across when talking about some 'problematic' aspects of CODE, however while guilt by association is not really something I like to do, it is one thing saying that all gankers are bad (since gankers really vary wildly in what and how they do it) and saying that CODE as an organisation does really bad things. If you chose to stay in CODE with knowledge of what and how they do, then I have to assume you're agreeing to the actions that formed their public image. Again, I don't care for ganks, but I would not want to be part of the same group of people that does their forum/blog thing, regardless of the amount of content and ease of participation being provided by such a group.
I'll point out at this stage just in case you think otherwise, I don't have any link to CODE. So if organisations like CODE weren't in the game how would you engage in combat PvP with players that are in NPC corps? There is no guilt from association as it's a game.
I honestly don't know how to fix NPC corps, but that's an issue of much wider scale. Realistically, hisec needs a thorough rehaul in terms of content provided (PvE), training of new players in terms of important game mechanics, wardec mechanics, NPC corp alts and their capabilites etc. However, some things are clearly broken with mechanics involved in ganking, but going into those would just derail this thread further (not that it was very valuable in terms of discussion to start with) so I'll leave that for some other topic/time . |
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Posted - 2015.08.10 11:20:30 -
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Black Pedro wrote: *talk*
I think I told you in some other thread that I'm not gonna try discussing something with you. So I'm not :). |
Rhamnousia Nosferatu
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Posted - 2015.08.10 11:24:05 -
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Siegfried Cohenberg wrote: Stop trying to smear the good name of the CODE. We're all happy go lucky players who just want to make highsec better. Is it bad that we want to purge the game of bot aspirancy?
Hi Siggy. Nice glasses. What happened to that monocle of yours?
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu
Omar Little Fan Club
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Posted - 2015.08.10 11:29:31 -
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Siegfried Cohenberg wrote: Mixing it up. KEEPING THE PROFILE GAME FRESH
Now that you mention it, I need to do a makeover myself. This back-in-black look gets stale fast. |
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