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CCP Leeloo
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:32:27 -
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Hi everyone,
I am here today to bring you an important message regarding the removal of a CSM member GÇô Gorga.
The reason for his removal is the unacceptable level of participation that we have witnessed in a past few months. While we understand that real life issues can interfere with CSM duties, we expect every member of the Council to participate actively in our internal discussions.
His inactivity was brought to the attention of CCP by the CSM and after discussing the situation with them, and agreeing with their request to remove him from the council for inactivity, he will be removed today.
As per mechanism that we established last year, we are replacing Gorga with the next candidate in line. We have already re-run the STV script and according to the calculations UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative.
I would like to point out that this is not an exception and we will continue replacing inactive members in the future. You will be able to read more about these rules in the updated white paper that will be published before the next election.
CCP Leeloo
CCP Leeloo | CSM Coordinator | @ccp_leeloo
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Bam Stroker
Van Diemen's Demise Pandemic Legion
432
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:37:25 -
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Now only one heartbeat away. *wrings hands*
Seriously though, good that the Russians are getting some representation and I hope that he'll an active and contributing member of the CSM.
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Capri Sun KraftFoods
The Suicide Kings Black Legion.
18
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:41:03 -
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Good call, although it is a shame to see him replaced by someone who has been nearly as inactive ingame the last 6 months or so as Gorga was when he ran for CSM. Xdeath's a good dude though. Don't necessarily agree with his viewpoints on sov, but you need the full gamut of positions to voiced. |
Anthar Thebess
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:43:45 -
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Good move.
Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released?
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
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Soolarize
The Icarian Oath Utopian Society
6
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:47:40 -
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Slightly off-topic here. I just bumped on this
Quote:UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative
I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players.
Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies.
Now let's have the -1 or equivalent rain, I guess...
CEO @ The Icarian Oath Utopian Society [I.OUS]
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CCP Leeloo
C C P C C P Alliance
761
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Posted - 2015.08.04 11:51:57 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Good move.
Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released? We are looking into this.
CCP Leeloo | CSM Coordinator | @ccp_leeloo
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SerratedX
Fistful of Finns Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2015.08.04 12:20:27 -
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Soolarize wrote:Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies.
First of all the Eve forums are not a great place to actually discuss stuff going on in the game. The vast majority of sub-forums are infested by trolls or just totally clueless people who have no idea of what is going on and the ISD are doing a subpar job curtailing it. There are a a couple decent subs, for example the WH forum. There is a reason CSM dudes and other noteworthy persons (the ones creating content for others) mostly post on r/eve (which you already read), FHC, twitter and the like.
The reason you see posts about happenings in nullsec, nullsec and wormholes is because those people are making **** happen. They organised themselves into communities that provide content and thus enjoyment of the game. They are the ones posting about battles happening because guess what, ain't no **** happening in hisec apart from suicide ganks and market failures.
I would also argue that newbie friendly organisations such as Pandemic Horde, KarmaFleet, E-UNI and such are much better for the game than a random mission running hisec corp that no one has ever heard of, has no significant internal culture, no voice communications etc.
Im sure there a plenty of people who mostly play in hisec and enjoy the game that way. While there maybe aren't many "jesus features" (like the new sov system) for hisec to point to, the vast majority of game changes affect hisec too. For example, UI changes, ship balancing and corporation management improvements.
We have had a dedicated hisec CSM representative in the past and it sucked. |
Bam Stroker
Van Diemen's Demise Pandemic Legion
433
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Posted - 2015.08.04 12:37:19 -
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Soolarize wrote:I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players.
If the CSM were appointed this might not be an issue but since it's elected that means in order for hisec to get people on the council they need to communicate with each other and get organised. They need opinion leaders to emerge from their community who publish their ideas and actively promote themselves to their own would-be constituents. It's hard for hiseccers though because unlike more PvP oriented players in WHs, low and nullsec they tend to stick themselves or play in small, insulated groups. A committed hisec CSM candidate could pull together enough support to get up provided they were prepared to do the legwork over a long period of time.
In other words - and I mean no offense - but the lack of hisec voices on CSM is a reflection on hisec players; not an inherent flaw in the system.
That said, current CSM Mike Azariah in particular is a great advocate for hisec, and whatever their in-game proclivities, any decent CSM will attempt to look at Eve holistically in addition to bringing their own particular expertise to the table.
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Jayne Fillon
758
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Posted - 2015.08.04 12:43:51 -
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Looking forward to working with UAxDeath!
Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI.
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Xilia Otsu
The Empty Void The Gorgon Spawn
514
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Posted - 2015.08.04 12:53:43 -
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Jayne Fillon wrote:Looking forward to working with UAxDeath!
Jayne pls They put so much effort into putting head of the biggest Russian RMT empire into CSM (buying votes and stuff) and here you are, welcoming him.
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Bobmon
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
139
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Posted - 2015.08.04 13:01:04 -
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The Dream is still alive!!
GÖ¢GÖ¢Bobmon for CSM10
@BobmonEve
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Tiberius StarGazer
Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.
460
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Posted - 2015.08.04 13:09:06 -
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CCP Leeloo wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:Good move.
Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released? We are looking into this.
I believe Fuzzysteve has already put something in fuzzworks for this?
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Matt Faithbringer
Rapid Withdrawal
10
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Posted - 2015.08.04 13:15:49 -
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cross post from /r/eve ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3fqig6/gorga_removed_from_csm_by_ccp/ctqzln5 ):
Quote:Whoa whoa hang on, hold the phone. UAxDEATH has had some real questions on even being eligible for the CSM since by all accounts he works for a gaming development company which by CCP's rules is not allowed. Quote:CCP employees, ISD volunteers, CCP interns, CCP affiliates, CCP strategic partners or employees of other gaming companies/games and family members of CCP are all ineligible to run for the CSM. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm-x-candidacy-now-open/ He works for a company called Digital Forest, which has these current projects in motion.
Any comment on why he's eligible for being a CSM? |
Mynxee
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
161
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Posted - 2015.08.04 13:17:14 -
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Regardless of who is affected, I'm very glad to see action being taken to remove inactive, non-responsive CSM members. Those elected should take the work of the council seriously and actively contribute or GTFO.
Lost in space, looking for sigs...
Blog: Outlaw Insouciant
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UAxDEATH
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
814
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Posted - 2015.08.04 13:23:00 -
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Thank you for an opportunity to be CSM once again. This came unexpected for me. Looking forward to work with CSM X and CCP team.
PS. I do not work for Digital Forest, I own my own construction Company in New York (which could be read here http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-04-18/multiplayer-game-eve-online-cultivates-a-most-devoted-following) |
Cpt Patrick Archer
Quam Singulari Triumvirate.
48
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Posted - 2015.08.04 13:29:48 -
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UAxDEATH Congratulations! |
Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
992
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Posted - 2015.08.04 13:43:37 -
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Soolarize wrote:Slightly off-topic here. I just bumped on this Quote:UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players. Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies. Now let's have the -1 or equivalent rain, I guess... I don't quite see the problem with this one. CCP is currently working on major Null overhaul, it won't hurt to have a lot of people actively involved in Null life in position of "sanity check" which is part of what CSM is.
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
1015
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Posted - 2015.08.04 13:45:05 -
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CCP Leeloo wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:Good move.
Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released? We are looking into this.
Fantastic I very much look forward to this.
CSM 11 Candidate
My Lore Predictions
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Cristl
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Posted - 2015.08.04 13:55:51 -
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linkfix |
Carneros
Ancient Hittite Corporation The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.08.04 15:13:11 -
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Congratulations, UAxDeath! |
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Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
4877
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Posted - 2015.08.04 15:58:35 -
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This is a lie, he actually is a world-renowned moonshine producer. The construction company is a front!
CSM 7 Secretary
CSM 6 Alternate Delegate
@two_step_eve on Twitter
My Blog
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alpha36
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.04 16:21:50 -
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pras |
Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp Chao3 Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.04 16:38:31 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Good move.
Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released?
+1
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope...
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UAxDEATH
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2015.08.04 16:42:31 -
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Two step wrote:This is a lie, he actually is a world-renowned moonshine producer. The construction company is a front!
Is this a new way of "killing" you competition in moonshining ?? You god danm Bostonie |
Saisin
Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp Chao3 Alliance
279
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Posted - 2015.08.04 16:53:17 -
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Soolarize wrote: I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players.
Isn't it the same of democratic elections in any democracy today? getting to understand issues and taking interest in representatives takes work and research. This is not for everyone, and it is up to each of us to decide if we want to cast our votes by blinfdly following a tradition, or following orders or doing our own research...
Soolarize wrote: Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies.
I somewhat agree with you, and I have a more jaded perspective. This game is very unique in the fact that it is one single shard and some players have been there for 13 years. Some have amassed considerable amount of power and influence, much like some families of professional politicians have done in RL. This is fundamentally human nature. The weird secret brotherhood of players is working top continue their domination of the games politics, like any one in their position (even you) would do. They do not necessarily crush new players has much as inticed them to join their ranks, through all these training corps that are fundamentally funnels for new in-game taxes income. Find candidates and groups that fight the establishment and say they will upheld views you can agree with and support them. My top listed candidates for CSM X were Borat Guereen, Ashterothi and Chance Ravinne. Find yours and support them.
"surrender your ego, be free". innuendo.
solo? There is a new hope...
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
5485
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Posted - 2015.08.04 17:09:29 -
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Tiberius StarGazer wrote:CCP Leeloo wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:Good move.
Can you also release to public votes / lobbing of the CSM members after some feature is released? We are looking into this. I believe Fuzzysteve has already put something in fuzzworks for this?
I think what was being asked for, was about the request to have Gorga removed for inactivity, rather than the actual voting for CSM members.
If I'm wrong about that: https://github.com/fuzzysteve/WrightBallots will run the election, with whatever candidates removed that you want.
Anyway: my own leaning about it is obvious if you follow me on twitter. Or saw what I said on Reddit. Someone who goes inactive for months isn't someone who should be on the CSM. Having someone who works is always better than someone who isn't there.
Woo! CSM X!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Endie
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.04 18:57:07 -
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Soolarize wrote:Slightly off-topic here. I just bumped on this Quote:UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players. Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies. Now let's have the -1 or equivalent rain, I guess...
What is your badly-expressed point? That CCP should ignore the rules, skip down the list past all the nullsec candidates with more votes, and arbitrarily pick someone who doesn't play anywhere except highsec? |
Sidrat Flush
KarmaFleet
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Posted - 2015.08.04 20:32:59 -
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Soolarize wrote:Slightly off-topic here. I just bumped on this Quote:UAxDEATH is your new CSM representative I don't pretend to speak for a lot of people but frankly, the CSM-related stories, the "joys" of nullsec politics and so on may not be followed by the majority of EVE players. Yes, breaking news, there are carebears living in highsec and perfectly fine with it, some even enjoy it! My point being, I browse EVE forums (and the excellent /r/eve) and see LOADS of alliance/nullsec content, taunts and stuff being posted and I don't think this is really helping the necessity to open the game to as many new players as possible. Right now, it looks like some weird secret brotherhood of people systematically crushing newbies. Now let's have the -1 or equivalent rain, I guess...
I believe Karma Fleet, Brave Newbies and the Pandemic Horde would disagree with you on that. Oh wait, they are ALL null sec entities - I include Brave, because they may not have their name on the map they will eventually and in the meantime they're spending most of their time in null anyway.
Could your view point be because not much interesting happens in High Sec and what does can be found on the miner bumping website, which isn't exactly a great advert for new players, but does give them an accurate portrayal of how to play Eve Online.
Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3916
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Posted - 2015.08.04 20:39:48 -
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Was Gorga contacted? Or did he contact CCP as to explain his low activity? (no details needed, just curious)
73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
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Jenshae Chiroptera
2163
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Posted - 2015.08.04 23:14:09 -
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How does Lorealai keep getting passed over as a replacement?
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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