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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2407
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Posted - 2015.08.08 21:14:15 -
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Stahp bullying me! "low life" "griefer" "scum" WORDS HURT!
Besides, according to CONCORD I'm a fine upstanding citizen with my shiny 5.0 security status. Obviously they, and CCP approve of what I do. Be happy with what you've got in high sec. It's more than what was, and arguably more than most deserve. Throwing money and subscription stuff out to back up your point doesn't make it less wrong. In fact it's tired and reeks of a false 'save the children' mentality. CCP has made a LOT of compromises over the years to make things 'safer' in high security space. More than they should have, but it's hard to backpedal from where they're at now.
"Be The Villain", "HTFU", "Killing is Just a Means (of communication)" Their words. The real problem is that so many gamers are used to empty posturing, moustache twirling and various lame crap that they are COMPLETELY unprepared to deal with a REAL villain.
Sorry kiddo, but the baddies here don't tie the damsel to the train tracks, only to have Dudley DoRight show up and save her. They're lurking on the other side of the gate with baseball bats. They're cloaked 2500m away from your mining barge or mission ship, just getting ready to warp out once they know the kill squad is incoming. They're more than willing to double or triple your ISK, honest. They even have API linked wallets and stuff.
Nasty, eh? It was worse. It's safer now than it ever was before. Adapt to the reality of this unreal world instead of trying to force it to conform to your notions of what should be.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Paula Enkhashour
World Traders Guild
6
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Posted - 2015.08.08 21:26:23 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Stahp bullying me! "low life" "griefer" "scum" WORDS HURT!
Besides, according to CONCORD I'm a fine upstanding citizen with my shiny 5.0 security status. Obviously they, and CCP approve of what I do. Be happy with what you've got in high sec. It's more than what was, and arguably more than most deserve. Throwing money and subscription stuff out to back up your point doesn't make it less wrong. In fact it's tired and reeks of a false 'save the children' mentality. CCP has made a LOT of compromises over the years to make things 'safer' in high security space. More than they should have, but it's hard to backpedal from where they're at now.
"Be The Villain", "HTFU", "Killing is Just a Means (of communication)" Their words. The real problem is that so many gamers are used to empty posturing, moustache twirling and various lame crap that they are COMPLETELY unprepared to deal with a REAL villain.
Sorry kiddo, but the baddies here don't tie the damsel to the train tracks, only to have Dudley DoRight show up and save her. They're lurking on the other side of the gate with baseball bats. They're cloaked 2500m away from your mining barge or mission ship, just getting ready to warp out once they know the kill squad is incoming. They're more than willing to double or triple your ISK, honest. They even have API linked wallets and stuff.
Nasty, eh? It was worse. It's safer now than it ever was before. Adapt to the reality of this unreal world instead of trying to force it to conform to your notions of what should be.
You do an important work for me. You fight people I otherwise would have to: Noob potential traders and merchants. You make all the steps I do to avoid you worhwhile in the driving of prices higher in some parts and lower in others. While I am posting non-sense in the forums for a couple hours I made almost 5 plex worth ISK by playing the price gaps created by risk transport routes.
Win-win situation. I make isk to fund alts, ships and corps, and you make ... whatever that is you make.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1574
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Posted - 2015.08.08 22:31:31 -
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Paula Enkhashour wrote:and you make ... whatever that is you make.
It's called content
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Paula Enkhashour
World Traders Guild
6
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Posted - 2015.08.08 22:53:53 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Paula Enkhashour wrote:and you make ... whatever that is you make.
It's called content
As people are saying in the other topic, everything in EVE is pvp, so I am all pvp as much as the next pilot. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1576
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Posted - 2015.08.08 22:56:34 -
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Paula Enkhashour wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Paula Enkhashour wrote:and you make ... whatever that is you make.
It's called content As people are saying in the other topic, everything in EVE is pvp, so I am all pvp as much as the next pilot. You insinuated that isk was a motive. I pointed out we operate on a higher currency
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
14009
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Posted - 2015.08.09 00:05:28 -
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Paula Enkhashour wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Paula Enkhashour wrote:and you make ... whatever that is you make.
It's called content As people are saying in the other topic, everything in EVE is pvp, so I am all pvp as much as the next pilot.
But not content by any means. No one as selfish as you or the other carebears actually provides content to anyone else. You're not even real players, you're just... there, like scenery or furniture.
Personally, I've always liked games with destructible terrain.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Paula Enkhashour
World Traders Guild
6
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Posted - 2015.08.09 00:24:24 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
But not content by any means. No one as selfish as you or the other carebears actually provides content to anyone else. You're not even real players, you're just... there, like scenery or furniture.
Personally, I've always liked games with destructible terrain.
And people still arguing with my point after hundreds of posts like this one. THAT is insane. |
gfldex
734
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Posted - 2015.08.09 00:35:50 -
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Now look at this beauty!
Quote:Elswick Sol > i was struggling with him. Elswick Sol > thanks a lot :) gfldex > you are ment to gfldex > that mission is aimed to make you ask for help Elswick Sol > well i gave it my best for a night and then said i better ask. lol gfldex > and since the rules got changed (3 days ago) you are save to do so Elswick Sol > which rule? gfldex > https://ccpcommunity.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203209712-Rookie-Griefing Elswick Sol > i was kind of cautious about asking in local. heh gfldex > bottom section of that page gfldex > 3 days ago i would have made off with your Dagan gfldex > lucky you! Elswick Sol > ohhh, lol. i was worried for nothing gfldex > would you mind if i post part of this convo on the official forum? Elswick Sol > yea, no problem :)
If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11187
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Posted - 2015.08.09 00:43:10 -
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Paula Enkhashour wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
But not content by any means. No one as selfish as you or the other carebears actually provides content to anyone else. You're not even real players, you're just... there, like scenery or furniture.
Personally, I've always liked games with destructible terrain.
And people still arguing with my point after hundreds of posts like this one. THAT is insane. i know the feeling, i personally have been trying to fell an oak tree with my face for some months now, im staring to feel like i may have been doing it wrong thus far.
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Paula Enkhashour
World Traders Guild
6
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Posted - 2015.08.09 00:53:13 -
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As a non "whatever this people are from" citizen, I never quite understood this thing about what I myself would call guettos.
It is like: Oh, I hate you because you feel happy about something I cant be happy with so you are inferior.
I really start to believe that western culture have a place in school where you are biologically modified to see the World in a dicotomic way. Everything is either one thing or another regarding one aspect. And you cant open your mind for anything else from that point on.
Please tell me there is no such thing ... lol |
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ISD Supogo
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
503
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Posted - 2015.08.09 04:28:57 -
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Removed a post.
Quote:Forum rules7. Discussion of real life religion and politics is prohibited.Discussion of real life religion and politics is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. Discussions of this nature often creates animosity between forum users due to real life political or military conflicts. CCP promotes the growth of a gaming community where equality is at the forefront. Nationalist, religious or political affiliations are not part of EVE Online, and should not be part of discussion on the EVE Online forums. 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster.
ISD Supogo
Lieutenant Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1581
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Posted - 2015.08.09 05:56:24 -
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ISD Supogo wrote:Removed a post. Quote:Forum rules7. Discussion of real life religion and politics is prohibited.Discussion of real life religion and politics is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. Discussions of this nature often creates animosity between forum users due to real life political or military conflicts. CCP promotes the growth of a gaming community where equality is at the forefront. Nationalist, religious or political affiliations are not part of EVE Online, and should not be part of discussion on the EVE Online forums. 27. Off-topic posting is prohibited.Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued to the off-topic poster. Praise Phil that somebody is protecting our eve religions. BTW do you have a minute to discuss our lord and saviour Phil?
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Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
161
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:41:44 -
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Clarity is good. I hate ambiguity
Seems about right. 30d is about what it takes to train and use a properly fitted combat frigate. Less paperwork for the GMs is good too, there's more important stuff to do than babysitting. |
Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1581
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Posted - 2015.08.09 10:13:20 -
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Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:Clarity is good. I hate ambiguity Seems about right. 30d is about what it takes to train and use a properly fitted combat frigate. Less paperwork for the GMs is good too, there's more important stuff to do than babysitting. you must be one of those elite pvpers? you can train and skill into a pvp frig in hours. You can have 'good' skills for a pvp frigate in a week...
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1581
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Posted - 2015.08.09 10:14:14 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Paula Enkhashour wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
But not content by any means. No one as selfish as you or the other carebears actually provides content to anyone else. You're not even real players, you're just... there, like scenery or furniture.
Personally, I've always liked games with destructible terrain.
And people still arguing with my point after hundreds of posts like this one. THAT is insane. i know the feeling, i personally have been trying to fell an oak tree with my face for some months now, im staring to feel like i may have been doing it wrong thus far. Mobadder ahs been doing it for years now. I'd stop before your face looks like his
Love you Mo
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Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
5230
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Posted - 2015.08.10 04:35:21 -
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TBH this actually looks better than the old system.
I know I accidentally broke the previous rules a couple of times - when I used to run contract scams in Apanake I'd sometimes fly to and from Dodixie posting the scam in local, and Arnon is a busy system that's basically on the way. Didn't realise it was an issue until someone called me out in local over it being a rookie system.
This makes it *clear* that suicide ganking players in Exhumers and Orcas in these systems is now OK (you can't even sit in an exhumer as a rookie under this definition).
One problem will occur with mission invasion in the rest of the arc. Sheroo is a popular L4 system AND the place you fight Dagan - if you probe someone down in Sheroo with the intention of baiting or ganking them, it's easy to not know that they are an illegal target.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
70
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Posted - 2015.08.10 08:12:10 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
One problem will occur with mission invasion in the rest of the arc. Sheroo is a popular L4 system AND the place you fight Dagan - if you probe someone down in Sheroo with the intention of baiting or ganking them, it's easy to not know that they are an illegal target.
All I know about that arc is Dagan, you travel around a lot, you get isk as a reward and you gain rep.
Although it shouldn't affect me as I don't intend to stay in high-sec. I can see problems for those that do stay in high-sec if they've not done that arc or have done it awhile back.
Only real way to be sure is treat trial accounts as not being part of the game and just ignore their activities, which isn't good for them or the game.
In light of the new ruling maybe CCP should redesign that arc. |
Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
1012
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Posted - 2015.08.10 11:30:24 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:One problem will occur with mission invasion in the rest of the arc. Sheroo is a popular L4 system AND the place you fight Dagan - if you probe someone down in Sheroo with the intention of baiting or ganking them, it's easy to not know that they are an illegal target. Well, if you see someone in L4-capable ship, chances are that it isn't SoE arc pocket. In fact, if you are seeing such a ship, chances are the person isn't a rookie anyway.
Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1615
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Posted - 2015.08.10 18:25:38 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:One problem will occur with mission invasion in the rest of the arc. Sheroo is a popular L4 system AND the place you fight Dagan - if you probe someone down in Sheroo with the intention of baiting or ganking them, it's easy to not know that they are an illegal target. Well, if you see someone in L4-capable ship, chances are that it isn't SoE arc pocket. In fact, if you are seeing such a ship, chances are the person isn't a rookie anyway. And let's face it who wastes their time on destroyers anyways
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Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
5234
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Posted - 2015.08.10 21:32:02 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:One problem will occur with mission invasion in the rest of the arc. Sheroo is a popular L4 system AND the place you fight Dagan - if you probe someone down in Sheroo with the intention of baiting or ganking them, it's easy to not know that they are an illegal target. Well, if you see someone in L4-capable ship, chances are that it isn't SoE arc pocket. In fact, if you are seeing such a ship, chances are the person isn't a rookie anyway.
The Vexor is an L4 capable ship (particularly the Navy version but the tech 1 version can run all L4s except burners). Similarly the Gnosis.
I'm not sure if burner missions go to Sheroo but they are run in ships that a rookie might train into under this definition.
There's also some less known systems in the arc where the same thing may happen with a less popular mission agent.
In short there will be people that break the rules without intending to break them.
On the plus side, the sorts of ships rookies tend to fly are harder to probe down (usually) than L4 missioning ships, so I don't expect accidents to happen often.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
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Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
1296
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Posted - 2015.08.10 22:03:55 -
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Paula Enkhashour wrote:If you really read all the http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/ you will know you are making a lot of concept errors in those statements throughout this thread, that most of you are lucky most people who plays this game and have their gameplay disrupted also dont read those terms. - You are not permitted to harass any player, no matter how old they are. The WARNING regarding one way of harassing is not a ruling that harassing is resumed to that, and the policies still say that harassment is prohibited and may lead to consequences regarding the infractors ability to enjoy the game, aka, ban. There is however the CCP instrument of legal harassment, which is the Wardec. THEN you are free.
Go biomass yourself. Oh wait, you already did.
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StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
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Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
1297
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Posted - 2015.08.10 22:25:59 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Stahp bullying me! "low life" "griefer" "scum" WORDS HURT!
Besides, according to CONCORD I'm a fine upstanding citizen with my shiny 5.0 security status. Obviously they, and CCP approve of what I do. Be happy with what you've got in high sec. It's more than what was, and arguably more than most deserve. Throwing money and subscription stuff out to back up your point doesn't make it less wrong. In fact it's tired and reeks of a false 'save the children' mentality. CCP has made a LOT of compromises over the years to make things 'safer' in high security space. More than they should have, but it's hard to backpedal from where they're at now.
"Be The Villain", "HTFU", "Killing is Just a Means (of communication)" Their words. The real problem is that so many gamers are used to empty posturing, moustache twirling and various lame crap that they are COMPLETELY unprepared to deal with a REAL villain.
Sorry kiddo, but the baddies here don't tie the damsel to the train tracks, only to have Dudley DoRight show up and save her. They're lurking on the other side of the gate with baseball bats. They're cloaked 2500m away from your mining barge or mission ship, just getting ready to warp out once they know the kill squad is incoming. They're more than willing to double or triple your ISK, honest. They even have API linked wallets and stuff.
Nasty, eh? It was worse. It's safer now than it ever was before. Adapt to the reality of this unreal world instead of trying to force it to conform to your notions of what should be.
They're in your corp, watching your chats, chatting in your TS, reading your mails, monitoring your assets, your online times, you corporate wallets, watching and waiting for the opportune moment to strike.
They're the neutral cov ops floating near the gate, watching your fleet comp.
Those are the real villains, the guy who ganks you is just a dude shooting folks, the war target is just a duded shooting folks. Neither likely has any vested interest in your destruction beyond content for himself.
The true villains want to watch everything you've created in game burn to the ground around you.
And that's what makes Eve so unique, and so worth playing. (cause let's be honest, Eve would be the worst single player game ever made)
Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities.
StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
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Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
1297
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Posted - 2015.08.10 22:29:29 -
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Avvy wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
One problem will occur with mission invasion in the rest of the arc. Sheroo is a popular L4 system AND the place you fight Dagan - if you probe someone down in Sheroo with the intention of baiting or ganking them, it's easy to not know that they are an illegal target.
All I know about that arc is Dagan, you travel around a lot, you get isk as a reward and you gain rep. Although it shouldn't affect me as I don't intend to stay in high-sec. I can see problems for those that do stay in high-sec if they've not done that arc or have done it awhile back. Only real way to be sure is treat trial accounts as not being part of the game and just ignore their activities, which isn't good for them or the game. In light of the new ruling maybe CCP should redesign that arc. Edit: It also makes me wonder about career agents, as one of those missions is a courier mission that requires around 7 jumps, what happens if someone destroys the ship and destroys or takes the item. Seems they will also be breaking the rules if the pilot is 30 days or less.
And sometimes they'd be killing a new hauling alt of a veteran player.
Part of the SOE arc is taking players into all 4 empires, it would be difficult to redesign without loosing that. (depends how important you consider that aspect)
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StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3228
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Posted - 2015.08.10 22:45:13 -
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I have never tried to manufacture, mine, or research.
I thereby consider myself a rookie, and nobody may attack me, as I may be attempting something I haven't tried before.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
1297
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Posted - 2015.08.10 22:50:11 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Paula Enkhashour wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Paula Enkhashour wrote:and you make ... whatever that is you make.
It's called content As people are saying in the other topic, everything in EVE is pvp, so I am all pvp as much as the next pilot. But not content by any means. No one as selfish as you or the other carebears actually provides content to anyone else. You're not even real players, you're just... there, like scenery or furniture. Personally, I've always liked games with destructible terrain.
Epic post is Epic.
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StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
2420
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Posted - 2015.08.11 00:20:59 -
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Wait! Space Lawyer/Psychoanalyst biomassed? Where is the stuff?
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24574
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Posted - 2015.08.11 00:54:18 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Wait! Space Lawyer/Psychoanalyst biomassed? Where is the stuff? I have no doubt that'll it'll be back next week with another alt spewing the same crap.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1627
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Posted - 2015.08.11 01:00:35 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Wait! Space Lawyer/Psychoanalyst biomassed? Where is the stuff? I have no doubt that'll it'll be back next week with another alt spewing the same crap. And this is why alts get trolled
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StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
238
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Posted - 2015.08.11 01:04:21 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Wait! Space Lawyer/Psychoanalyst biomassed? Where is the stuff? I have no doubt that'll it'll be back next week with another alt spewing the same crap. Indeed, Oblivious to the fact that the content they have created for themselves (these topics ~ biomass) or brought unto them by others (mine my rocks will ya ~ the entitled) has succeeded in the task they set out to achieve when they fired up the game. Somethin to pass the time, and maybe generate new thoughts,concepts or fun times even. Now if only it wouldn't cause them such stress, in an activity in which one usually par-takes to defrag internal hard drives. Maybe its just my feelings showing, Since ive lost a loved one in rl recently. I kinda feel like for once i should reach out and help a miner. Im just on the fence i guess...
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
522
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Posted - 2015.08.11 01:08:19 -
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Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:Paula Enkhashour wrote:If you really read all the http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/ you will know you are making a lot of concept errors in those statements throughout this thread, that most of you are lucky most people who plays this game and have their gameplay disrupted also dont read those terms. - You are not permitted to harass any player, no matter how old they are. The WARNING regarding one way of harassing is not a ruling that harassing is resumed to that, and the policies still say that harassment is prohibited and may lead to consequences regarding the infractors ability to enjoy the game, aka, ban. There is however the CCP instrument of legal harassment, which is the Wardec. THEN you are free. Paula Enkhashour World Traders GuildTraders Guild Guild gb2wow n00b Paula Enkhashour Doomheim
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