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Amann Omanid
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:02:26 -
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I am creating a newbro corp based around a program I have started at school and sort of need help with the corp. While I have played the game for years I don't really have the assets or knowledge for starting a serious corp like this so I could use the help. I think it will bring a bunch of new players to the game and hopefully be somewhere where new players can find refuge if they don't like the way horde, Eve-uni, or the other newbro corps work. We will be specializing in trial by fire. I hope to bring new eden a lot of content with this corp! :)
If so check out this post in corp recruitment. :) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5954573#post5954573
I was going to copy the post here but didn't want to clutter!
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:27:06 -
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I hope this is an alt character you are posting with and not the character you intend to start the Corp with.
First rule of Eve, don't trust anyone, least of all us lot in GD.
Everyone here will be willing to help in some way, some will be willing to help you and others will be willing to help themselves; both of which are totally valid approaches to playing the game.
As a general outcome of this thread though, don't start your Corp in highsec. You are going to be wardecced heavily, so may a well go to low or null and have fun.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5221
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:28:52 -
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You might consider contacting the Angel Project. |
Amann Omanid
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:30:45 -
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Don't worry this is just an alt I am training for corp management and possibly leadership lol I know the wardecs are coming and I am ok with it. It will help the players learn fast. We will be starting in low sec though :) |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:37:04 -
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Once you get your corp set up, drop me a mail and I'll contract you some frigates to get you started. Maybe 50 or so depending on how many newbies you get to sign up.
It's not a lot, but it will give you a ship replacement policy to get started with so they won't be so wary of PVP.
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Amann Omanid
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.09 06:38:43 -
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Will do :) |
Pedophiler Peezley
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.09 08:32:23 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Once you get your corp set up, drop me a mail and I'll contract you some frigates to get you started. Maybe 50 or so depending on how many newbies you get to sign up. It's not a lot, but it will give you a ship replacement program to get started with so they won't be so wary of PVP. Mr Epeen
Dat will be much helpful. I'll take 20 Tristans now thank you.
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WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2015.08.09 11:00:25 -
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You want help with your corp but don't even post the corp name?
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Amann Omanid
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.09 12:09:46 -
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WASPY69 wrote:You want help with your corp but don't even post the corp name? Still working on making it. Training skills, looking for a place to call home, and finding a good bunch of leaders for the corp. I just wanted to get info out early so if people wanted to sign up they could. Working on figuring everything out now, which is the reason I am asking for assistance. No need for a Destiny 2.0 |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2015.08.09 12:44:49 -
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WASPY69 wrote:You want help with your corp but don't even post the corp name? Im with WASPY on this one tbh. You post about a nice plan but dont post with corp name or main at all. Id be willing to help tbh but that throws red flags with me. Sure hey you get some war decs, thats fine if your REALLY wanting trial by fire that is the best and surest way of doing so. But youd also do one thing; create legitimacy with your recruitment rather than being just another shameless begging thread for isk and pseudo-help in GD.
Every now and again Ill contact a newbro in Jita with my alt, someone that seems actually new, and convo them and chat with them a bit to get the feel of them. Usually after killing them to see if they are new or just an alt and drop them some isk to help get started. I loved helping my buddies that wanted to play Eve with isk or stuff in a new venture or guidance, but some would just keep asking for isk over and over again and then the handouts stop. Legitimacy is huge in this game. Imo you failed in this regard and that alone in me giving you help in any way, shape or form.
If you are real, best of luck.
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kes88
Swords of Persephone
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Posted - 2015.08.09 13:16:04 -
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It's a lovely idea, but if you are looking for investment you need to have a plan and you need to provide more details. Most of GD react badly to this kind of thread (you are better off sticking to the right forum as well). There are lots of reasons for this, but some of it will be because you yourself have already confessed to not knowing much about starting a corp (but I may have misinterpreted what you said) and not having many assets or much isk.
If you really have a plan, have the confidence to say it plainly. People are much more likely to help you out if you can be more specific (I'm not talking about corp name here, I'm talking about corp goals).
Also, it sounds like you are going to need help with the actual running of the corp, not just the funding, if you are as unfamiliar with corporation organisation as it seems from your OP. You would do well to find individuals who can help you more fundamentally than just shoving isk at you. As always though, don't trust anyone....so pick your people well. And good luck with the wardecs and all. |
WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2015.08.09 13:47:46 -
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Amann Omanid wrote: Still working on making it. Training skills, looking for a place to call home, and finding a good bunch of leaders for the corp. I just wanted to get info out early so if people wanted to sign up they could. Working on figuring everything out now, which is the reason I am asking for assistance. No need for a Destiny 2.0
Oh.. I thought you actually already had a corp set up in game but were afraid to post about it.
On a serious note, and I'll give some advice. You claim to have played EVE for years yet lack the knowledge to start a corp? What have you done all these years? Just sat in an NPC corp and mined in highsec or something? Running corp in EVE isn't rocket science, it just takes a leadership with a clear goal and vision for the corp, and making sure your corp has enough content to not get bored and leave corp for a more active one (a strong, confident personality helps too).
What pvp corp are (were?) you in on your main? How did that leadership function? What worked? What didn't work?
Create the corp. Focus on TWO OR THREE areas max when advertising your corp. Don't advertise that you do "a little bit of everything" because that interprets to your corp probably doing absolutely nothing. Make it stand out somehow, appeal to your desired group, have a strong selling point why they should join your special snowflake of a corp and not another corp. etc.. I think you get the idea.
And most importantly of all DON'T create a corp if you don't intend to be logged on basically EVERY day for long hours in the beginning. There's nothing more cancerous in EVE than a corp with dead and/or careless leadership.
Lastly, who is your main?
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kes88
Swords of Persephone
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Posted - 2015.08.09 14:00:52 -
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WASPY's post hits the nail on the head.
I'm in a super crappy corp (long story which I will only share if asked), so take what I say with a pinch of salt. However, you can't just mash blindly into making a corp - and yeah I know this from experience. Particularly if you are part of the leadership, you need to have 100% involvement from the get go.
Come back and tell us the plan, what your areas of focus are and what kind of investment you are looking for, and I'm sure you will get more interest than saying"Hey I wanna start a corp but I don't have anything".
I do completely understand the sentiment of wanting to start a corp when you have a vision; it's just that you haven't shared that vision. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Create Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.09 15:20:36 -
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You should probably be more specific your plan, especially what you need and how it will be spent. It looks kind of funny that your first post since you created this character seven months ago were offers starting at 5b on multiple characters, then a week later you come here asking for ISK.
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.08.09 15:53:21 -
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Amann Omanid wrote:Don't worry this is just an alt I am training for corp management and possibly leadership lol I know the wardecs are coming and I am ok with it. It will help the players learn fast. We will be starting in low sec though :)
I don't understand. You want people to learn by joining a newbro corp that is constantly harassed by wardecs? I am cool with that. Only problem is UNI has been decced now by like 3 grief/merc groups for like 2 years straight.
So what is the point? You just want collect the taxes and run a slave army?
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2015.08.09 17:48:32 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote: First rule of Eve, don't trust anyone, least of all us lot in GD.
You make it sound as if Gee Dee is as full of devious masterminds as See and Pee is. This is not true
But anyway, to the OP:
Yes, we are interested...but only if you refrain from using the term 'newbro' and instead call them 'new players'
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Amann Omanid
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:19:02 -
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So the starting plan is setting the corp up in low sec which I feel is the best place to learn the game at the moment as well as the best PvP. We may start off with two different corps depending on the ratio of people that want to PvP vs. the people who want to do industry. I would like to keep them together at the beginning and probably split off as we get more players.
We will have different divisions within the corp to allow for a lot of easy structure early and allow a sort of mentoring program to take place. We will have around 10 people in each division with a mentor in charge of them delegating assets and teaching them the game. (This is also the reason for buying accounts, I have a few friends that wanted decent characters but didn't want to bring in their mains, and I still haven't accomplished this)
The main point of this corp is how players learn and studying the complexity of learning new games. I don't want to limit the players in what they can do, that is why the corp is fairly open and broad. After the players understand the game we will likely split into more specialized corps within an alliance.
I am not specifically asking for isk. Just support, advice, and possibly joining the corp. There is a reason I specified people that were leaving or had left. I don't want to take isk from people playing the game, I want to keep assets alive from the old guard and transfer them to the new players.
The whole point of posting so early is so that I could see if there was interest and get feedback, which has been incredibly helpful and I have already had quite a few lengthy conversations about what we can do with this corp and different game plans for learning and the study of these players as well as growing the corp with other new players. |
Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:20:13 -
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Amann Omanid wrote:So the starting plan is setting the corp up in low sec which I feel is the best place to learn the game at the moment as well as the best PvP. We may start off with two different corps depending on the ratio of people that want to PvP vs. the people who want to do industry. I would like to keep them together at the beginning and probably split off as we get more players.
We will have different divisions within the corp to allow for a lot of easy structure early and allow a sort of mentoring program to take place. We will have around 10 people in each division with a mentor in charge of them delegating assets and teaching them the game. (This is also the reason for buying accounts, I have a few friends that wanted decent characters but didn't want to bring in their mains, and I still haven't accomplished this)
The main point of this corp is how players learn and studying the complexity of learning new games. I don't want to limit the players in what they can do, that is why the corp is fairly open and broad. After the players understand the game we will likely split into more specialized corps within an alliance.
I am not specifically asking for isk. Just support, advice, and possibly joining the corp. There is a reason I specified people that were leaving or had left. I don't want to take isk from people playing the game, I want to keep assets alive from the old guard and transfer them to the new players.
The whole point of posting so early is so that I could see if there was interest and get feedback, which has been incredibly helpful and I have already had quite a few lengthy conversations about what we can do with this corp and different game plans for learning and the study of these players as well as growing the corp with other new players.
Oh cool, you guys are joining FW but doing more than orbiting an icon?!
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Amann Omanid
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.09 23:22:24 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:
Oh cool, you guys are joining FW but doing more than orbiting an icon?!
I could easily seeing us lose 50-60 **** fit frigs a day. At least till we learn what smart bombs are haha |
Keno Skir
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Posted - 2015.08.10 01:03:57 -
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What will you be taxing all the various players?
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Amann Omanid
Organized Chaos
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Posted - 2015.08.10 01:38:23 -
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Keno Skir wrote:What will you be taxing all the various players? A low at least to start out. 5% maybe. Don't want to take too much isk away from them. It will mean more to them than it will the corp. |
Amann Omanid
Organized Chaos
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Posted - 2015.08.10 12:26:47 -
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The linked post is now updated with a little bit of corp info. I have worked through the night getting everything set up. Let me know what you guys think! |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.08.10 12:44:17 -
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Amann Omanid wrote:I am creating a newbro corp
Amann OmanidI wrote: don't really have the assets or knowledge for starting a serious corp like this so I could use the help.
good luck, maybe this sort of thing is what leads noobs to death, if you dont have the knowledge or assets to do it then why are you thinking about doing it?
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Crimson Nirnroots
Compliant Munitions
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Posted - 2015.08.10 13:03:35 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Once you get your corp set up, drop me a mail and I'll contract you some frigates to get you started. Maybe 50 or so depending on how many newbies you get to sign up. It's not a lot, but it will give you a ship replacement program to get started with so they won't be so wary of PVP. Mr Epeen
I'd like to echo this, I think it's a great way for me to give a little bit back to the community in a small way. I can put up 50 Caldari frigates and 20 Dessie's, though it will take me a little time. I'm pretty low-key.
Contact me if/when you are ready for them to be started, I'd be happy to help.
Antimatter, now with more Nirnroots.
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Tyrendian Biohazard
ubiquitous hurt The WeHurt Initiative
375
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Posted - 2015.08.10 13:05:10 -
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I do a lot of new player Q&A on my stream (linked below) and cover a wide variety of topics like PvP, exploration, industry, etc. Feel free to send people my way for questions.
My twitch stream to help new players:
http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
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Amann Omanid
Organized Chaos
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Posted - 2015.08.10 13:09:36 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Amann Omanid wrote:I am creating a newbro corp Amann OmanidI wrote: don't really have the assets or knowledge for starting a serious corp like this so I could use the help. good luck, maybe this sort of thing is what leads noobs to death, if you dont have the knowledge or assets to do it then why are you thinking about doing it? Clearly you read none of the post, so why comment? |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.08.10 13:11:36 -
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Amann Omanid wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Amann Omanid wrote:I am creating a newbro corp Amann OmanidI wrote: don't really have the assets or knowledge for starting a serious corp like this so I could use the help. good luck, maybe this sort of thing is what leads noobs to death, if you dont have the knowledge or assets to do it then why are you thinking about doing it? Clearly you read none of the post, so why comment?
i actually have...
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Amann Omanid
Organized Chaos
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Posted - 2015.08.10 13:21:51 -
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Then you know why I created the corp. Just because I have never ran a large corp doesn't mean I don't have a ton of game knowledge. I asked for help for a reason. People reacting like this is why people shy away from creating content. Eve players teach other players they shouldn't instead of try it out and see if it works. Pretty sure no one else has attempted anything like this. |
WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2015.08.10 16:30:29 -
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One small problem I can foresee with basing in active lowsec is player retention within your corp. What will happen is, a newbie will join your corp,fly with you for a week or even month, then discover there's bigger, more established lowsec/FW corps that have epic FC's regularly taking out large fleets etc..
I understand this is a personal project of yours, and you should definitely go for it! No not believing in yourself. But if I were you I would join an already established lowsec/FW corp and then working your way up to director, creating friends and a name for yourself. If people know who you are and what groups you flew with it will be much easier getting people to join you. And as with any successful company IRL, make sure you get publicity. News sites, Youtube, < insert favorite internet community >, etc.. Do something interesting and not just the same old, with a different name.
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Amann Omanid
Organized Chaos
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Posted - 2015.08.10 20:46:41 -
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We are actually based right next to a low sec island. Hopefully CCP will get back to me at some point, but it isn't urgent. I have a week or so before things actually get rolling. |
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