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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.14 10:12:00 -
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did that and you are wrong.
And simple fact that minmatar ships are "used" more is not an valid argument for usefulness of laser platforms.
Zealots are probably the most used HACs in medium to large fleets. /main reason why i trained amarr curisers V nad med laser specs.
It all works pretty well, unless you want to make Amar ships the best all around as in the old ages/ as i heard. More expensive but every laser platform will be as strong as small fleet of same hull class of other race.
Only one amarr ship i know use 1400mm "Artileries " is abaddon. Never heard of amar ship using autocannons. |
IIIIIAMGIIIII
Flying Bags Inc. Bulgarian Space Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.12.14 10:51:00 -
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I don`t know why u peeps keep selling me this Legion Zaelot crap :) ofcourse they are 2 rare ships we got with good capacitors and good ship bonuses ....we Amarians know that best i think :):):)
I fly legion dude i fly with him like a normal person who have cap stable ship with very very nice dmg even making Em and some Thermal. With my Legion i don`t have to be wory abbout what slot i should waste to make it stable and how to tank it and making good dmg in the same time,or do i have to take off my tracking computers to put cap recharges.That 2 ships are just fine :):):)
But we talk here not for Legion and Zaelot , we talk here for the Whole amarr race :) please mind that . |
Stonecold Steve
I N E X T R E M I S
11
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Posted - 2011.12.14 10:53:00 -
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What makes you think each race should be on par with eachother? Stop placing stuff in categories and number them, if the goal was to have each race and faction be equal to eachother shipwise everyone would be a gallante and we would all fire civilian weapons at eachother..
If and only if to the extreme, i could say the only balancing that needs to be done is on the technologial front and in one faction/race-wise and not between different factions and races..
summary for simpletons:
like this: frigate - cruiser - battlecruiser - battleship
not like this: amarr frigate - caldari frigate - gallante frigate - minmatar frigate amarr cruiser- caldari cruiser - gallante cruiser- minmatar cruiser amarr battlecruiser- caldari battlecruiser- gallante battlecruiser- minmatar battlecruiser amarr battleship- caldari battleship- gallante battleship- minmatar battleship
GÇ£Quod licet Iovi non licet boviGÇ¥- Gods may do what cattle may not. "Amat victoria curam"- Victory favours those who take pains. |
IIIIIAMGIIIII
Flying Bags Inc. Bulgarian Space Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:01:00 -
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Stonecold Steve wrote:What makes you think each race should be on par with eachother? Stop placing stuff in categories and number them, if the goal was to have each race and faction be equal to eachother shipwise everyone would be a gallante and we would all fire civilian weapons at eachother..
If and only if to the extreme, i could say the only balancing that needs to be done is on the technologial front and in one faction/race-wise and not between different factions and races..
summary for simpletons:
like this: frigate - cruiser - battlecruiser - battleship
not like this: amarr frigate - caldari frigate - gallante frigate - minmatar frigate amarr cruiser- caldari cruiser - gallante cruiser- minmatar cruiser amarr battlecruiser- caldari battlecruiser- gallante battlecruiser- minmatar battlecruiser amarr battleship- caldari battleship- gallante battleship- minmatar battleship
Stonecold Steve <~~~~ TRAITOR to the Amarian race :) |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
14
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:07:00 -
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Fix My Lasers wrote:Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Absolution is not bad either
lets have a look at Minmatar
Sleipnir/cyclone, Hurricane, tempest, maelstrom, rupture, fleet stabber, vagabond, rifter
Well typhoon is interesting but skill point extensive
Ammar
Absolution, Harbinger, Abaddon, Apoc, navy omen, zealot, cant fing of any frig but sure there is some.
Caldari drake, tengu, scorpion thats about covers it
Gallante thorax, megathrone, hyperion, dominix, brutix, myrmidon, ishtar
Altho drones makes the great part of some of their ships.
Flying most of the minmatar ships effectively means you really know what you do, you screw up in double click you get in wrong range you are toast.
Hit n Run
Not talking about EW cause all races EW ships are not that bad if used properly. Guess you never was at null/low, just like you don't know resists on rats. Minmatar: every BS is used in pvp. Every bc is used in pvp. Every HAC is used in pvp. And so on. You missed a lot of other minnie ships and added a lot of useless to Amarr. Not flaming you or trolling, but please, fly more in null solo/small fleet and alliance wars. I did all of them and know for sure what is used and what is not. Why didn't you mention that Amarr ships usually used with ACs? Do you really fly in null or do any kind of pvp at all?
I see all the time -
Abaddons, Geddons, Apocs Zealots and the other Recon Both Ammar HACs Guardians Purifiers Both Ammar Inties Harbingers Oracles Both CS Legions Bhaalghorn and others in PVP
In PVE CS Paladin Navy Geddon/Apoc Legion Missiles/Laser variants Harbingers All the Standard BS'es And others
Im minmatar and I use a Harby for ratting and have to fly Baddons with Lasers in fleets.
All of these used the racial weapon system
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Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:17:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:Fix My Lasers wrote:Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Absolution is not bad either
lets have a look at Minmatar
Sleipnir/cyclone, Hurricane, tempest, maelstrom, rupture, fleet stabber, vagabond, rifter
Well typhoon is interesting but skill point extensive
Ammar
Absolution, Harbinger, Abaddon, Apoc, navy omen, zealot, cant fing of any frig but sure there is some.
Caldari drake, tengu, scorpion thats about covers it
Gallante thorax, megathrone, hyperion, dominix, brutix, myrmidon, ishtar
Altho drones makes the great part of some of their ships.
Flying most of the minmatar ships effectively means you really know what you do, you screw up in double click you get in wrong range you are toast.
Hit n Run
Not talking about EW cause all races EW ships are not that bad if used properly. Guess you never was at null/low, just like you don't know resists on rats. Minmatar: every BS is used in pvp. Every bc is used in pvp. Every HAC is used in pvp. And so on. You missed a lot of other minnie ships and added a lot of useless to Amarr. Not flaming you or trolling, but please, fly more in null solo/small fleet and alliance wars. I did all of them and know for sure what is used and what is not. Why didn't you mention that Amarr ships usually used with ACs? Do you really fly in null or do any kind of pvp at all? I see all the time - Abaddons, Geddons, Apocs Zealots and the other Recon Both Ammar HACs Guardians Purifiers Both Ammar Inties Harbingers Oracles Both CS Legions Bhaalghorn and others in PVP In PVE CS Paladin Navy Geddon/Apoc Legion Missiles/Laser variants Harbingers All the Standard BS'es And others Im minmatar and I use a Harby for ratting and have to fly Baddons with Lasers in fleets. All of these used the racial weapon system
I use noobship with lasers when I kill belt rats in high sec. Does this change laser statistics?
Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html |
IIIIIAMGIIIII
Flying Bags Inc. Bulgarian Space Federation
5
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:19:00 -
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Danny John-Peter i see these ships u mentioned all the time.Diferents says i know what they can do u don`t.Utalking about Legion with missiles -good joke :) You also talk about Armageddon navy - do you know how hard is to fit him proper ? How many of the ships you wrote can fly and actually use them in pvp or pve ...do you even know how u have to fit them or how much time is needed to fit Armageddon navy proper? For mission dude if u fly solo like me in l4 only Apocalypse Navy have enough PG CPU and enough cap to complete the mission without warping out cause of dry capacitor. Dont comment something u don`t know how it really work :):):) |
Stonecold Steve
I N E X T R E M I S
11
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:25:00 -
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Stonecold Steve <~~~~ TRAITOR to the Amarian race :)
+1 made me laugh a little, but spaceships is serious business jow!!
IIIIIAMGIIIII wrote:Danny John-Peter i see these ships u mentioned all the time.Diferents says i know what they can do u don`t.Utalking about Legion with missiles -good joke :) You also talk about Armageddon navy - do you know how hard is to fit him proper ? How many of the ships you wrote can fly and actually use them in pvp or pve ...do you even know how u have to fit them or how much time is needed to fit Armageddon navy proper? For mission dude if u fly solo like me in l4 only Apocalypse Navy have enough PG CPU and enough cap to complete the mission without warping out cause of dry capacitor. Dont comment something u don`t know how it really work :):):)
Would you like to link me your fitting problems? Cause i have no problems flying my abaddon/apoc in a random lvl4 mission (except drone missions.. they are no fun at all) and dont have to warp out off.
fitting is just 4 hardeners, 2 heatsinks, 1 repper, 3 trimarks, 3 cap rechargers, full group of pulses in high. 5 dronnies.. and capmanagement skills :-) GÇ£Quod licet Iovi non licet boviGÇ¥- Gods may do what cattle may not. "Amat victoria curam"- Victory favours those who take pains. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
125
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:30:00 -
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IIIIIAMGIIIII wrote:I don`t know why u peeps keep selling me this Legion Zaelot crap :) ofcourse they are 2 rare ships we got with good capacitors and good ship bonuses ....we Amarians know that best i think :):):)
I fly legion dude i fly with him like a normal person who have cap stable ship with very very nice dmg even making Em and some Thermal. With my Legion i don`t have to be wory abbout what slot i should waste to make it stable and how to tank it and making good dmg in the same time,or do i have to take off my tracking computers to put cap recharges.That 2 ships are just fine :):):)
But we talk here not for Legion and Zaelot , we talk here for the Whole amarr race :) please mind that .
I dont fly cap stable ships.. But again i dont fly ships which need capacitor to project dmg.. At least not at the moment.
Each race got their playfield they excel in.. and other where they are not that cool. |
IIIIIAMGIIIII
Flying Bags Inc. Bulgarian Space Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:34:00 -
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Stonecold Steve wrote:Stonecold Steve <~~~~ TRAITOR to the Amarian race :) +1 made me laugh a little, but spaceships is serious business jow!!
I know its serious business thats why i try to convince the peeps we need just a lil bit changes in our ships and capacitor usage and maybe just maybe they fix our crystals if not making 3-4 kind dmg i hope they make EM+Thermal 50-50% dmg so i can kill something else than br san drones under 1 year firing at him :):)
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Renge Ukyo
Point of No Return Waterboard
5
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:43:00 -
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Dr Karsun wrote:I personally find my Gallente carrier far better than the Minmatar carrier... Also I would never trade my ishtar for any caldari or minmatar hac.
And I love getting up close and personal with my 5km optimal on blasters.
Gallente are fine with the rail&blaster buff. We do only two kinds of damage but no one care prepare for the possible situation that he'll only encounter amarr or that they'll only encounter Gallente, so they can't really tank only EM&therm or therm&kin. People omni-tank in pvp making our vessels in par with others.
For pve my hybrids suck a bit, true... But for pvp they are equal opponents.
I have had the exact opposite experience. The Gallente still suck, I know, cause it's what i fly. I"m cross training to Minmatar because there is no reason to continue to put myself in harms way. The Gallente are an armor tanked race by and large. The issue with the close range brawler is that you can't be -slow- and live. Since we can be kited AC to blaster, and never close the gap to even get a Minmatar ship in our falloff range because we are too slow, it's a losing proposition every time, and because you burn all your cap trying to get in range. Even OH'ed you're gonna be at half cap or below when you do get in range, making you all the more susceptible to capacitor warfare modules. The new buff is nice, but has not yet brought the Gallente into focus as a viable and competitive PVP option. The fitting options on hybrids still forces you to chose between damage and tank, and that goes a long way in taking your range away from you because if don't fit ions or electrons you will not have a tank. Ions give you the same tank, but less cap as electrons, which means you have to forgo the range necessary to engage with. If you go with neutrons you are going to realize immediately that you won't have a tank and your cap is gone ridiculously fast. You will also notice you explode effortlessly while you try to catch something with your scram/web. The reality is that a 10k engagement range is not a viable option for the Gallente. The Tracking bonus and damage bonus don't matter if you cant HIT someone because they are exactly 1 meter too far away. You could be able to a million dps with a blaster at 5k, but it won't matter because you can't get anyone in that range because A no one is dumb enough, and B you're too slow even if someone is dumb enough.
As much as I would love to believe that someday the Gallente will actually be PVPable, but for now, we're just cannon fodder until we have -PERFECT- skills. And by the time you have perfect skills you'll have already realized you should be cross training in to Minmatar. |
Schnoo
The Schnoo
30
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:55:00 -
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Can't be bothered to read all posts but there's one thing that should be made clear: Amarr laser ships are generally only good in medium/large fleets. For solo work, any other race has much better ships, and the only Amarr ships that are good for solo are training wise polar opposite of what Amarr is: Arbi/Curse = drones and even shields, Veng/Sac = missiles, even HAM>Laser Legion holds true. Sure, you can try to solo PVP in laser ships, but it's just hard. As you're Amarr, you can't control range, EM/Thermal tanks, which are persistent with Minmatar, the most popular PVP race, means you are also outdpsed and outtanked, as well as having cap and tracking problems. But that would all be OK if retribution and coercer had two mid slots. |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
14
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:04:00 -
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IIIIIAMGIIIII wrote:Danny John-Peter i see these ships u mentioned all the time.Diferents says i know what they can do u don`t.Utalking about Legion with missiles -good joke :) You also talk about Armageddon navy - do you know how hard is to fit him proper ? How many of the ships you wrote can fly and actually use them in pvp or pve ...do you even know how u have to fit them or how much time is needed to fit Armageddon navy proper? For mission dude if u fly solo like me in l4 only Apocalypse Navy have enough PG CPU and enough cap to complete the mission without warping out cause of dry capacitor. Dont comment something u don`t know how it really work :):):)
Firstly, not mocking, but I am genuinely having trouble reading that, if your not native English speaking good on you, you write better English than I probably do of your native otherwise, well yeah learn to write, please.
Secondly I specifically said both the laser and HAM legions are used in PVE a lot. Both my mates use laser legions in Sanctums.
And as that other clever man I cant be bothered to quote says, maybe its your fittings/skills not the ships.
@Fix My Lasers
No it doesnt but considering your short range weapon system of a Medium type can fight in optimal out to 40k with poor skills and T1 crystals.
Thats not bad, you can also insta change ammo, select range in a way I as a Minmatar simply cannot.
Just see it this way, we can pick our damage type if we wait 10 seconds to reload. Yay for us. You can instantly change to fit the range you are fighting at Yay for you. |
IIIIIAMGIIIII
Flying Bags Inc. Bulgarian Space Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:15:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:IIIIIAMGIIIII wrote:Danny John-Peter i see these ships u mentioned all the time.Diferents says i know what they can do u don`t.Utalking about Legion with missiles -good joke :) You also talk about Armageddon navy - do you know how hard is to fit him proper ? How many of the ships you wrote can fly and actually use them in pvp or pve ...do you even know how u have to fit them or how much time is needed to fit Armageddon navy proper? For mission dude if u fly solo like me in l4 only Apocalypse Navy have enough PG CPU and enough cap to complete the mission without warping out cause of dry capacitor. Dont comment something u don`t know how it really work :):):) Firstly, not mocking, but I am genuinely having trouble reading that, if your not native English speaking good on you, you write better English than I probably do of your native otherwise, well yeah learn to write, please. Secondly I specifically said both the laser and HAM legions are used in PVE a lot. Both my mates use laser legions in Sanctums. And as that other clever man I cant be bothered to quote says, maybe its your fittings/skills not the ships. @Fix My Lasers No it doesnt but considering your short range weapon system of a Medium type can fight in optimal out to 40k with poor skills and T1 crystals. Thats not bad, you can also insta change ammo, select range in a way I as a Minmatar simply cannot. Just see it this way, we can pick our damage type if we wait 10 seconds to reload. Yay for us. You can instantly change to fit the range you are fighting at Yay for you.
Yes my english is very poor,thats why is so difficult to explain my self.I hope its good enough to get my point,because i`m really trying here. |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
14
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:36:00 -
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Well I really dont see what your point is at the moment, you dont like the damage types dealt by lasers, fair enough, your excellent range flexibility really does make up for that lets be honest.
In regards to the ships and fitting them, I personally fly Minmatar mostly, however I fly Baddons for Pew Pew (with lasers, yes).
I rat in a Harb (for the better optimal and the joy of buying ammo once and the better drone bay). I also rat in a Geddon which runs the Cap for 9 Minutes with everything running (Including a repper). Stable with AB off. Paladins, Navy Geddons and Navy Apocs as well as many other Amarr ships are used to rat here in provi, the majority of ratters are, to be honest, using lasers. |
Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2011.12.14 15:04:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:Thats not bad, you can also insta change ammo, select range in a way I as a Minmatar simply cannot.
Just see it this way, we can pick our damage type if we wait 10 seconds to reload. Yay for us. You can instantly change to fit the range you are fighting at Yay for you.
Damage type - When I fly minnie ships I change my ammo when I see the enemy. Before I start flying to my target I start targeting it and according to the race and type I change ammo. If it's Amarr HAC I get non-EXP damage, if it's a minnie HAC I get non EM damage and so on. Usually in 95% cases I have my ammo changed before my ship is on the range I need or at the same time. Which means I didn't waste those 10 seconds you talk about. If you can't do that right that's not a race problem.
Range - Changing crystals for the optimal range works just like falloff. When you use longer range crystals your dps drops dramaticly, the longer your range the less DPS your crystals do. Just the same as falloff - when you're on the edge of your falloff you loose like 50% of your DPS (via misses that falloff makes) and when't it's closer to optimal you do almost 100% of damage. So it is actually not a good thing when you have to change ammo when you're out of range. It is not a Yay as you say. Be happy you don't have to change ammo when your range changes. As for Scorch being so "good", there is AC ammo called Barrage that works axacly like Scorch.
Please be constructive. Lasers aren't any better then any other weapon system. Actually they are worse. Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
14
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Posted - 2011.12.14 15:17:00 -
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Fix My Lasers wrote:Some things which are massively circumstantial
Damage Type - Because you have 10 seconds before every engagement to change ammo type, thats a bizarre comment to make. And also Minmatar T2 ammo as Im sure you know deals only two damage types, and I find myself using barrage a lot, to get any kind of DPS out of them at the ranges I tend to end up fighting at in either fleet fights or kiting.
Range - I lose my first premised advantage of damage selection at range anyways, do to being practically limited to barrage. Even with barrage, I cannot do any real damage at 44k which happens to be the optimal range of the T1 radio crystals on medium Amarr turrets
\Constructive
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Ellendras Silver
Cosmodynamics
0
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Posted - 2011.12.14 15:19:00 -
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the only valid point that remains is that gallente and amarr can only do 2 types of damages. but they have a lot of good points too
strong points amarr
1. awesome T2 ships best from every race. and good T1 ships also 2. no reload time 3. switching range and damage type with crystals (instantly) 4. by far the best armor tankers in the game 5. the amarr ships look realy cool ok its just eye candy but still
i think all races are good its how you fly them that changes things |
Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2011.12.14 15:32:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:Damage Type - Because you have 10 seconds before every engagement to change ammo type, thats a bizarre comment to make.
\Constructive
Constructive? Yes, very! Man, don't disgrace yourself. Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
127
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Posted - 2011.12.14 15:36:00 -
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Fix My Lasers wrote:Danny John-Peter wrote:Damage Type - Because you have 10 seconds before every engagement to change ammo type, thats a bizarre comment to make.
\Constructive Constructive? Yes, very! Man, don't disgrace yourself.
well fix lasers..
But give me ponies with 8xDD prefitted with no requirment and 12mil ehp at least. Seems good to me.
I apologies i am a bit drunk. |
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Ellendras Silver
Cosmodynamics
1
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Posted - 2011.12.14 15:37:00 -
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Fix My Lasers wrote:Danny John-Peter wrote:Damage Type - Because you have 10 seconds before every engagement to change ammo type, thats a bizarre comment to make.
\Constructive Constructive? Yes, very! Man, don't disgrace yourself.
if they do that amarr is going to be way too powerfull they are srtrong enough as it is |
Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2011.12.14 15:40:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Fix My Lasers wrote:Danny John-Peter wrote:Damage Type - Because you have 10 seconds before every engagement to change ammo type, thats a bizarre comment to make.
\Constructive Constructive? Yes, very! Man, don't disgrace yourself. well fix lasers.. But give me ponies with 8xDD prefitted with no requirment and 12mil ehp at least. Seems good to me. I apologies i am a bit drunk.
Man! You said it yourself - Fix lasers! Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html |
Dunbar Hulan
The Flaming Sideburn's Art of War Alliance
27
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Posted - 2011.12.14 15:41:00 -
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A 1.2B fitted Tengu will still die in a Bubble to T1 frigs and some EWAR. It's all relative to what you are doing or trying to do. -áThe Sideburns- Always Outnumbered- Never Outgunned. |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
14
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Posted - 2011.12.14 15:46:00 -
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Fix My Lasers wrote:Danny John-Peter wrote:Damage Type - Because you have 10 seconds before every engagement to change ammo type, thats a bizarre comment to make.
\Constructive Constructive? Yes, very! Man, don't disgrace yourself.
Since you have now quoted the one sarcastic (However still valid) part of my comments.
Please now actually repsond and rebut my argument rather than simply making silly comments.
\Pot calling kettle black |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
127
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Posted - 2011.12.14 15:47:00 -
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Fix My Lasers wrote:Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Fix My Lasers wrote:Danny John-Peter wrote:Damage Type - Because you have 10 seconds before every engagement to change ammo type, thats a bizarre comment to make.
\Constructive Constructive? Yes, very! Man, don't disgrace yourself. well fix lasers.. But give me ponies with 8xDD prefitted with no requirment and 12mil ehp at least. Seems good to me. I apologies i am a bit drunk. Man! You said it yourself - Fix lasers!
Yes fix lasers. Give them better tracking .. here we go.. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
145
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Posted - 2011.12.14 16:06:00 -
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IIIIIAMGIIIII wrote: I know its serious business thats why i try to convince the peeps we need just a lil bit changes in our ships and capacitor usage and maybe just maybe they fix our crystals if not making 3-4 kind dmg i hope they make EM+Thermal 50-50% dmg so i can kill something else than br san drones under 1 year firing at him :):)
Multifreq is even EM+Therm. Fit a prop mod to get in range.
As for the rat types, STOP SHOOTING RATS WITH INAPPROPRIATE GUNS |
Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2011.12.14 16:22:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:IIIIIAMGIIIII wrote: I know its serious business thats why i try to convince the peeps we need just a lil bit changes in our ships and capacitor usage and maybe just maybe they fix our crystals if not making 3-4 kind dmg i hope they make EM+Thermal 50-50% dmg so i can kill something else than br san drones under 1 year firing at him :):)
Multifreq is even EM+Therm. Fit a prop mod to get in range. As for the rat types, STOP SHOOTING RATS WITH INAPPROPRIATE GUNS
Multifreq is 70% EM and 30% TH. It is the highest TH/EM ratio.
"INAPPROPRIATE GUNS" by this you mean I should mount ACs or Hybrids? Because those 2 systems are great for shooting any rats, unlike lasers. Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
14
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Posted - 2011.12.14 16:26:00 -
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Fix My Lasers wrote:RubyPorto wrote:IIIIIAMGIIIII wrote: I know its serious business thats why i try to convince the peeps we need just a lil bit changes in our ships and capacitor usage and maybe just maybe they fix our crystals if not making 3-4 kind dmg i hope they make EM+Thermal 50-50% dmg so i can kill something else than br san drones under 1 year firing at him :):)
Multifreq is even EM+Therm. Fit a prop mod to get in range. As for the rat types, STOP SHOOTING RATS WITH INAPPROPRIATE GUNS Multifreq is 70% EM and 30% TH. It is the highest TH/EM ratio. "INAPPROPRIATE GUNS" by this you mean I should mount ACs or Hybrids? Because those 2 systems are great for shooting any rats, unlike lasers.
A:Because Hybrids can pick damage types and have massive range flexibility
B:You ignored my request for an actaul argument regarding projectiles so I can only assume you either have no argument or can't be bothered. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.14 16:29:00 -
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Danny John-Peter wrote:Fix My Lasers wrote:RubyPorto wrote:IIIIIAMGIIIII wrote: I know its serious business thats why i try to convince the peeps we need just a lil bit changes in our ships and capacitor usage and maybe just maybe they fix our crystals if not making 3-4 kind dmg i hope they make EM+Thermal 50-50% dmg so i can kill something else than br san drones under 1 year firing at him :):)
Multifreq is even EM+Therm. Fit a prop mod to get in range. As for the rat types, STOP SHOOTING RATS WITH INAPPROPRIATE GUNS Multifreq is 70% EM and 30% TH. It is the highest TH/EM ratio. "INAPPROPRIATE GUNS" by this you mean I should mount ACs or Hybrids? Because those 2 systems are great for shooting any rats, unlike lasers. A:Because Hybrids can pick damage types and have massive range flexibility B:You ignored my request for an actaul argument regarding projectiles so I can only assume you either have no argument or can't be bothered.
A : thermal/kinetic combo works pretty well against any NPC .. sure they are not best at some cases but still they could be at second place of choice..
B : Dont know.. |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.14 16:33:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote: A : thermal/kinetic combo works pretty well against any NPC .. sure they are not best at some cases but still they could be at second place of choice..
B : Dont know..
Fair enough, having never used blasters I wouldnt know if that combo works, however their not known for there range flexibility, and they still cant pick damage types, but thanks for correcting me on that one. |
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