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Globby
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE.
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Posted - 2015.08.14 19:50:15 -
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I will teach you how to gank effectively with fits for each ship. The following one hour classes are available with the price:
Industrial ganking with Vexors and Tornados. - 1 Billion. Shuttle and Rookieship killing with Thrashers and Catalysts. - 1 Billion. Pod killing with Thrashers. - 1 Billion. T1/T2 Mining Barge/Exhumer killing with Catalysts. - 1 Billion. Soloing freighters with a billion alts. (minimum 7) - 2 Billion. Hyperdunking. - 2 Billion. POS ganking. - 3 Billion.
If any of these classes interest you, send me an eve mail in game. All of these classes last up to an hour (with a demonstration at the end.) Spreadsheets and exclusive access to other helpful information will be given to you during the class.
Yours truly,
Globby
Liason to the Executor | CODE Treasurer | Soldier of the New Order | Official Ganking Instructor |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6980
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Posted - 2015.08.14 19:59:04 -
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Any discount rates for anti-gankers?
Just askin'.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Globby
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE.
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Posted - 2015.08.14 20:01:28 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Any discount rates for anti-gankers?
Just askin'.
If you can convince four other antigankers to all take the class at once I will drop the price to half off and instead teach 'BEST WAYS TO COUNTER SAID GANKING STRATEGY' class instead. |
Don Purple
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1278
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Posted - 2015.08.14 20:06:12 -
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I support this product and or service
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3286
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Posted - 2015.08.14 22:04:43 -
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You are literally the last person I would trust with ISK in any amount.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Benson en Efnyssen
EveryoneVersusEveryone.com The Pursuit of Happiness
0
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Posted - 2015.08.14 22:14:32 -
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Will I get a medal at the end? Like a swimming lessons badge I can sow onto my Speedos? |
Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
6879
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Posted - 2015.08.14 22:42:36 -
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Can I pay in bacon and/or sexual favours instead?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Globby
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE.
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Posted - 2015.08.14 23:13:43 -
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Leto Thule wrote:You are literally the last person I would trust with ISK in any amount.
Willing to use Chribba third party. |
Leto Thule
Origin. Black Legion.
3289
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Posted - 2015.08.14 23:36:54 -
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Globby wrote:Leto Thule wrote:You are literally the last person I would trust with ISK in any amount. Willing to use Chribba third party.
I suppose there isn't any disputing that.
Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
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Paranoid Loyd
6653
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Posted - 2015.08.14 23:59:11 -
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Globby wrote:Leto Thule wrote:You are literally the last person I would trust with ISK in any amount. Willing to use Chribba third party. So I can send Chribba a Bil and take your class then say you didn't teach me **** or your class was a scam and get it back? Why would he get in the middle of that?
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Globby
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE.
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Posted - 2015.08.15 00:05:14 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Globby wrote:Leto Thule wrote:You are literally the last person I would trust with ISK in any amount. Willing to use Chribba third party. So I can send Chribba a Bil and take your class then say you didn't teach me **** or your class was a scam and get it back? Why would he get in the middle of that?
or we could establish guidelines
didnt really think it through but please, its a simple fix, stop being so negative |
Paranoid Loyd
6653
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Posted - 2015.08.15 00:12:28 -
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Not trying to be negative, just pointing out a flaw in using a third party for a service.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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StonerPhReaK
Herb Men
241
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Posted - 2015.08.15 01:38:03 -
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I wouldnt even charge isk. One successful antigank youll have erryone throwin isk at you. /me rubs hands. Im in, where do i send the freighter. i mean. ummm. the velator.
Signature Removal in Progress, Estimated time of completion? Neva
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2015.08.15 04:05:52 -
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Someone must be getting tied of easy kills.
A signature :o
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Ralph Bryden
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.15 05:23:07 -
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anyone who pays for this scam has truly lost his or her marbles haha |
Starbuck05
Scope Works
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Posted - 2015.08.15 06:24:27 -
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Id rather just keep the 1 bil , log on 2 throwaway alts in catalysts and go gank a miner...cause yes..its that simple.
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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Sasha Nyemtsov
Systems Administration and Control
160
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Posted - 2015.08.15 07:36:08 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:Id rather just keep the 1 bil , log on 2 throwaway alts in catalysts and go gank a miner...cause yes..its that simple.
Good morning, Starbuck05!
I agree with you insofar as the cost of GlobbyGÇÖs tutorial seems unreasonably high. Of course, that very much depends on several factors not outlined in his pitch.
Firstly there is the time factor. You pay CCP hf in order to log in to the game; that is, you pay real money. Globby has presumably factored that in to his final tally. Each student will require different levels of support and guidance and will therefore make unquantifiable demands upon his time.
Most of us have either learned from more experienced players in our Corp or done the necessary background work of reading. Some players do the tutorials and then head straight out to GǪ.mine. If these players fancy rolling a gank alt with Globby as tutor, theyGÇÖll probably need instructing from scratch. Believe me, IGÇÖve met quite a few of them in my quest for adventure. They are also the players who are likely to have the odd billion floating around.
There is also the cost of the T1 or T2 Catalysts; it isnGÇÖt clear whether these will be funded by the tutor or not. Typical module drops from downed Catalysts are not great, and Retrievers (for example) are rarely generous loot-wise.
If, as you suggest, the would-be acolyte could simply GÇÿlog on 2 throwaway altsGÇÖ and GÇÿgo gank a minerGÇÖ, there would surely be a requirement for a minimum of 2 accounts (i.e. possibly a third to provide the warp-in/looter); not something everybody wants or can afford. Better to use a spare alt on your main account, let Globby work his stuff, providing the (his, paid-for) support and then decide whether you want to take it further.
As for miner-ganking being GÇÿthat simpleGÇÖ, I agree that the bare facts of the matter do have a kind of alluring directness about them:
Undock
Warp to target
Lock
Scram
Shoot
Success!
But you know as well as I do that the devil is in the detail here; and it is disingenuous of you to suggest that even the most straightforward solo gank doesnGÇÖt involve a certain amount of crucial work in the setting up, execution and successful rounding-off of the attempt.
Things go wrong. I messed up a GÇÿsimpleGÇÖ gank only yesterday. My own fault; didnGÇÖt follow my in-built checklist, then fingers n thumbs!
So, there is also the stuff that Globby will have to teach about what to do when things donGÇÖt go to plan. When an anti-ganker appears, for instance (although that is very rareGǪ).
All this takes time; GlobbyGÇÖs time. Why should he distil an EVEGÇÖs lifetimeGÇÖs teaching for the benefit of a student, for nothing?
Starbuck05, I look to you to write the definitive ganking guide and offer it to the playerbase. It shouldnGÇÖt take long, based on your comment!
www.minerbumping.com
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation
1910
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Posted - 2015.08.15 07:44:24 -
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Globby-senpai taught me to hyperdunk when I was a wee 'ittle codie, back when people trusted him with hundreds of billions in ships. While I'm not sure I'd pay a bill for pod ganking, if you want to hyperdunk, do it right. Don't waste billions on a bowhead and taloses and mess up. Get globby to teach you!
Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.
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Mag's
the united
20075
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Posted - 2015.08.15 11:35:53 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:Id rather just keep the 1 bil , log on 2 throwaway alts in catalysts and go gank a miner...cause yes..its that simple. Throw away alts? So do you suggest I train up 2 characters to use a catalyst, gank with them and then biomass them both? It's really that simple? And you don't see any issues with that?
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24724
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Posted - 2015.08.15 12:45:25 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:Id rather just keep the 1 bil , log on 2 throwaway alts in catalysts and go gank a miner...cause yes..its that simple. If by throwaway you mean biomass the alts afterwards the conversation you have with the GMs afterwards should be interesting.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers
633
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Posted - 2015.08.15 13:05:46 -
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I agree with Bebop.
Yes, a billion is steep for the low end ganking lessons because you can experiment more cheaply.
I think a billion for the high end stuff is quite a good deal. How many times can you screw up an 8 tornado gank before it would have been cheaper to buy a tutorial from a subject matter expert?
I'm a cheap bastard, but if I wanted to gank freighters I would absolutely pay for this. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
3045
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Posted - 2015.08.15 14:55:47 -
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Ralph Bryden wrote:anyone who pays for this scam has truly lost his or her marbles haha
Where there's an NPC there's a way.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. forum - everyone's welcome (no shiptoasters)
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Starbuck05
Scope Works
282
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Posted - 2015.08.15 15:23:16 -
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Sasha Nyemtsov wrote:Starbuck05 wrote:Id rather just keep the 1 bil , log on 2 throwaway alts in catalysts and go gank a miner...cause yes..its that simple. Good morning, Starbuck05! I agree with you insofar as the cost of GlobbyGÇÖs tutorial seems unreasonably high. Of course, that very much depends on several factors not outlined in his pitch. Firstly there is the time factor. You pay CCP hf in order to log in to the game; that is, you pay real money. Globby has presumably factored that in to his final tally. Each student will require different levels of support and guidance and will therefore make unquantifiable demands upon his time. Most of us have either learned from more experienced players in our Corp or done the necessary background work of reading. Some players do the tutorials and then head straight out to GǪ.mine. If these players fancy rolling a gank alt with Globby as tutor, theyGÇÖll probably need instructing from scratch. Believe me, IGÇÖve met quite a few of them in my quest for adventure. They are also the players who are likely to have the odd billion floating around. There is also the cost of the T1 or T2 Catalysts; it isnGÇÖt clear whether these will be funded by the tutor or not. Typical module drops from downed Catalysts are not great, and Retrievers (for example) are rarely generous loot-wise. If, as you suggest, the would-be acolyte could simply GÇÿlog on 2 throwaway altsGÇÖ and GÇÿgo gank a minerGÇÖ, there would surely be a requirement for a minimum of 2 accounts (i.e. possibly a third to provide the warp-in/looter); not something everybody wants or can afford. Better to use a spare alt on your main account, let Globby work his stuff, providing the (his, paid-for) support and then decide whether you want to take it further. As for miner-ganking being GÇÿthat simpleGÇÖ, I agree that the bare facts of the matter do have a kind of alluring directness about them: Undock Warp to target Lock Scram Shoot Success! But you know as well as I do that the devil is in the detail here; and it is disingenuous of you to suggest that even the most straightforward solo gank doesnGÇÖt involve a certain amount of crucial work in the setting up, execution and successful rounding-off of the attempt. Things go wrong. I messed up a GÇÿsimpleGÇÖ gank only yesterday. My own fault; didnGÇÖt follow my in-built checklist, then fingers n thumbs! So, there is also the stuff that Globby will have to teach about what to do when things donGÇÖt go to plan. When an anti-ganker appears, for instance (although that is very rareGǪ). All this takes time; GlobbyGÇÖs time. Why should he distil an EVEGÇÖs lifetimeGÇÖs teaching for the benefit of a student, for nothing? Starbuck05, I look to you to write the definitive ganking guide and offer it to the playerbase. It shouldnGÇÖt take long, based on your comment!
Thanks for taking the time and effort to make a constructive post .
Now let me elaborate on what i said also taking in to account all of the above that you said .
I wouldnt pay 1 bil isk for such lessons even if i was space rich .. cause such lessons are not worth 1 bil isk ...doesn't matter how much time said teaching is putting in said lesson but still not worth it .
The higher tier activity of ganking freighters and other complicated stuff .. i agree would require a teacher but still not at a cost of 1 bil or more .
Most of the information is on the web ... and its nothin really really complicated ( also not a reason for myself to start and make a guide about it when .. again .. everything is already on the interwebs ) .
So again .. not trying to diss the OP's service .. but imo .. its to expensive and not worth it .
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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Starbuck05
Scope Works
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Posted - 2015.08.15 15:30:49 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Starbuck05 wrote:Id rather just keep the 1 bil , log on 2 throwaway alts in catalysts and go gank a miner...cause yes..its that simple. If by throwaway you mean biomass the alts afterwards the conversation you have with the GMs afterwards should be interesting.
Throwaway in a sence that you train them just to fit and fly catalysts then keep them like that .. maybe throwaway wasnt a good word but by no means did i suggest to biomass them afterwards .. cause even i know thats not alowed lol
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
-á- But if i call u sir , what would i call your wife then ??
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Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
166
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Posted - 2015.08.15 21:42:45 -
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Benson en Efnyssen wrote:Will I get a medal at the end? Like a swimming lessons badge I can sow onto my Speedos?
Just had to get speedos in the thread, didntcha |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24745
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Posted - 2015.08.15 22:00:42 -
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Starbuck05 wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Starbuck05 wrote:Id rather just keep the 1 bil , log on 2 throwaway alts in catalysts and go gank a miner...cause yes..its that simple. If by throwaway you mean biomass the alts afterwards the conversation you have with the GMs afterwards should be interesting. Throwaway in a sence that you train them just to fit and fly catalysts then keep them like that .. maybe throwaway wasnt a good word but by no means did i suggest to biomass them afterwards .. cause even i know thats not alowed lol heh that's fair enough. You're right about throwaway not being a good choice, the only one worse is disposable. The reason I picked up on it, as did others, is because some people use the words interchangeably while continuing to spread the myth that biomassing alts a regular occurrence amongst the more criminal minds in Eve.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Ralph Bryden
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.15 22:48:43 -
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admiral root wrote:Ralph Bryden wrote:anyone who pays for this scam has truly lost his or her marbles haha Where there's an NPC there's a way.
Correction to your statement:
where there are superior #s there is a way and unparalleled ego tripping of course haha |
Mobadder Thworst
Noob Farmers
644
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Posted - 2015.08.16 02:44:14 -
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I read up on hyperdunking and I'm impressed.
Ganking isn't really my thing, but well done.
For naysayers... This man developed original gank technique that made game news... And you think it's worth less than the loot from a single freighter?
This class is what I would call a "great investment."
The potential return on investment for this class is literally one successful execution. I'm sure hyperdunking wasn't easy to develop.
If you have never tried stuff like this, it's not easy. I'm shocked people don't see value in this. Knowledge is the most valuable thing in the game. Mo |
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
576
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Posted - 2015.08.16 23:00:28 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Starbuck05 wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Starbuck05 wrote:Id rather just keep the 1 bil , log on 2 throwaway alts in catalysts and go gank a miner...cause yes..its that simple. If by throwaway you mean biomass the alts afterwards the conversation you have with the GMs afterwards should be interesting. Throwaway in a sence that you train them just to fit and fly catalysts then keep them like that .. maybe throwaway wasnt a good word but by no means did i suggest to biomass them afterwards .. cause even i know thats not alowed lol heh that's fair enough. You're right about throwaway not being a good choice, the only one worse is disposable. The reason I picked up on it, as did others, is because some people use the words interchangeably while continuing to spread the myth that biomassing alts a regular occurrence amongst the more criminal minds in Eve.
I use the word dedicated. They're trained specifically for the purpose of shielding your main from the consequences of being -10 and a known ganker. As long as ganking remains entertaining and profitable there is no reason to get rid of those alts.
Not to mention training into gank fits gives you a good foothold into PvP capabilities; -10 is no issue with respect to pvp outside highsec, and if necessary sec status can be fixed relatively easily through the purchase of tags.
The use of dedicated ganking alts just allows anyone willing to pay for extra accounts/skillqueues to do an end run around the consequences of suicide ganking. I don't think anyone knowledgeable is suggesting that those toons are recycled. There's simply no reason to do so. A character trained into core fitting skills and then into multiple popular ship classes and weapon systems will always have value, especially as long as sec status is such a cheap fix.
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Globby
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling CODE.
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Posted - 2015.08.17 14:25:11 -
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I gank on my main. I'm also one of the best gankers in the game. AMA. |
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