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blizarus facto
Zero TAX lol
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Posted - 2015.08.15 18:26:07 -
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Yesterday I have been ganged by a gate by two poeple. This incedent gave me the idea about making an app where poeple could write warnings for other poeple to warn of those gangs.
I do know that there are a banch of apps for eve, but as far as I searched no app do this. I am kind of new player so maybe I missing somthing, so is that the case, tell me please.
Anyway, I am not a programer so I leave my idea for you. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.08.15 18:31:06 -
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blizarus facto wrote:Yesterday I have been ganged by a gate by two poeple. Where I come from, a gang is generally more than two people. But maybe that's just me.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.08.15 18:36:05 -
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What you want essentially already exists in the game.
You need three things: a contact list, an intel channel, and the statistics from the star map. Conceivably, you might want a corp to hold large swaths of contacts and to attract and tag wardeccers, just as an added bonus.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2015.08.15 18:36:18 -
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People in corps or alliances often have ingame intel channels where they report hostile gangs (either so people can get safe or they can take out a counter fleet).
A global app anyone could use for reporting 'hostiles' could be manipulated by people posting counterintel (i.e. reporting their own gang in one location/shiptype when they're actually somewhere else).
Best bet to avoid being squished if you're travellng solo, either use cloaky/nullified ships designed to align/warp quickly, use a scout in a throw away ship, or join a player corp and ask someone to scout you.
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: TO THE PITCHFORKMOBILE!
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Divine Entervention
Warriors Gaming Corporation Imperium Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.15 18:42:49 -
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if you hit f10 (id say ctrl f10 but the colors on that map suck compared to the ones on the original) you can sort through the statistics and see how many ships have been destroyed in the past hour or 24 hours.
You're welcome.
Fly safe |
blizarus facto
Zero TAX lol
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Posted - 2015.08.15 19:05:08 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:if you hit f10 (id say ctrl f10 but the colors on that map suck compared to the ones on the original) you can sort through the statistics and see how many ships have been destroyed in the past hour or 24 hours.
You're welcome.
Fly safe
I didn't know that thing, thank you very much. |
Panthe3 Black
The Branded Few Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.08.15 19:15:00 -
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we already have that, thanks though |
Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
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Posted - 2015.08.15 20:24:46 -
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I avoid this problem by staying in my Captain's Quarters and try to hack the door into the station. No luck so far, but I'm sure CCP wouldn't add anything to the game half finished.
To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.
...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
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Posted - 2015.08.15 21:52:32 -
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Why bother with the app? It's not their fault you died... it's yours.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers EVEolution.
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Posted - 2015.08.15 22:37:50 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Why bother with the app? It's not their fault you died... it's yours.
give the new bro a break, why point out he was wrong without explaining why? that's not really help now is it.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.15 23:17:47 -
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I'll take "what is an Intel channel?" For 500 Alex.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2015.08.15 23:45:04 -
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xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Why bother with the app? It's not their fault you died... it's yours. give the new bro a break, why point out he was wrong without explaining why? that's not really help now is it. Or we could just stop the victim blaming culture where it's always the victims fault.... Because, well.... It isn't. It's the gate campers fault he got killed. The fact there are things he could have done to up his chances of survival doesn't change that fact.
Especially when he's not whining but actually taking a pro-active approach about 'hey, maybe I can come up with something to help other people'. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:00:07 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Or we could just stop the victim blaming culture where it's always the victims fault.... Because, well.... It isn't. Meh. In most cases it is. It's really hard to not blame the guy who picked a meat suit and a bicycle over a smart set of khakis and a Landcruiser as proper attire and transportation for a lion safari.
But yes, in this case, we're rather looking at a guy who's asking for a Chelsea tractor because he's not fully aware of the Landcruiser option.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:06:08 -
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Tippia wrote:Meh. In most cases it is. It's really hard to not blame the guy who picked a meat suit and a bicycle over a smart set of khakis and a Landcruiser as proper attire and transportation for a lion safari. But yes, in this case, we're rather looking at a guy who's asking for a Chelsea tractor because he's not fully aware of the Landcruiser option. Even then, Victim blaming isn't the right way forward. Though yes, there is a point where it's true stupidity. But most of the time we are blaming the victim inappropriately. Just because there are steps a victim 'could' have taken doesn't mean we should blame them, because in hindsight you can always find some step a victim should have taken.
But agreed on the actual example this time. And no need to really go more into discussion on the other topic in this thread. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:17:21 -
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Confirming that 2 people count as a gang.
Also confirming that certain intel channels (coughprovi) call 2 people a 'red spike'.
Slightly confirming that "its always the gate campers fault you died".
Maybe considering confirming that 'at no point does personal responsibility come into play'.
Will confirm that we have almost reached the tumblr [TRIGGERED] threshold with a couple people.
Further confirmations have not yet been confirmed.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:26:18 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:blizarus facto wrote:Yesterday I have been ganged by a gate by two poeple. Where I come from, a gang is generally more than two people. But maybe that's just me. Kids. Back in my day, there were roaming one-man gangs. Nothing is scarier than being encircled by one of those. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:40:58 -
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blizarus facto wrote:Yesterday I have been ganged by a gate by two poeple. This incedent gave me the idea about making an app where poeple could write warnings for other poeple to warn of those gangs.
I do know that there are a banch of apps for eve, but as far as I searched no app do this. I am kind of new player so maybe I missing somthing, so is that the case, tell me please.
Anyway, I am not a programer so I leave my idea for you. There is a third party app forum here, a thread like this would do better there rather than in GD. So make one? Or hire someone to... CCP doesn't do this sort of thing, just provides the data to make them yourself. Maybe look into something like app game kit 2?
I'm in it for the money
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Divine Entervention
Warriors Gaming Corporation Imperium Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:54:33 -
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Settle down there, killers.
Guy said he didn't know about the map providing the information he wanted.
All is well, stop showing your ass. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.08.16 01:12:36 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Settle down there, killers.
Guy said he didn't know about the map providing the information he wanted.
All is well, stop showing your ass. hmm? Wouldn't be a bad app. Combine a route planner like in X3TC Ship List (android app has a good route planner) to that basic format, then query current system statistics into it such as DOTLAN uses. Doesn't matter to me though, I don't need an easy to read format since I use a tablet for all that intel off the web. Could even integrate comments, but would likely be abused, even used to bait players to those systems. Also considering the amount of systems in EVE, could be a daunting task to put together, considering why there probably isn't one for android already.
I'm in it for the money
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.08.16 01:48:45 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:xxxTRUSTxxx wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Why bother with the app? It's not their fault you died... it's yours. give the new bro a break, why point out he was wrong without explaining why? that's not really help now is it. Or we could just stop the victim blaming culture where it's always the victims fault.... Because, well.... It isn't. It's the gate campers fault he got killed. The fact there are things he could have done to up his chances of survival doesn't change that fact. Especially when he's not whining but actually taking a pro-active approach about 'hey, maybe I can come up with something to help other people'.
Or, we could stop enabling the culture of failure and replace that with one of personal responsibility. Ignorance is the sole fault of the ignorant. The above post isn't just what is wrong with too many who play this game, it's what's wrong with all humanity.
You can't control what others do, what you can and should control is yourself. Gaining knowledge and looking out for yourself rather than expecting others to be 'nice' (if people were naturally 'nice', laws and law enforcement wouldn't exist and I wouldn't have a job in RL) goes a very long way to keeping yourself safe, happy and alive (in game, and out). |
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.08.16 02:38:20 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: You can't control what others do, what you can and should control is yourself. Gaining knowledge and looking out for yourself rather than expecting others to be 'nice' (if people were naturally 'nice', laws and law enforcement wouldn't exist and I wouldn't have a job in RL) goes a very long way to keeping yourself safe, happy and alive (in game, and out).
Comparing the police state you live in with an MMO? Equating the country with so many needless laws that you need a live-in lawyer not to break any before breakfast with a game is pretty lame.
As to the game. I'd blame the victim...the second or third time he did the same stupid thing. But then he's not a victim anymore. He's just an idiot that can't learn from his mistakes.
But you make a lot of mistakes in this game. It's complex and full of people like yourself that have exactly zero empathy for new people trying to climb that learning cliff. How do you expect them to learn with you vultures circling around waiting to verbally abuse any perceived weakness.
Try helping instead of hindering. It will feel more fulfilling in the game and in real life.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.08.16 02:54:17 -
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Mr Epeen wrote: Comparing the police state you live in with an MMO? Equating the country with so many needless laws that you need a live-in lawyer not to break any before breakfast with a game is pretty lame.
This is an excellent example of bad thinking. I didn't compare any real life polity with any video game. I compare REAL LIFE (absolutely neutral to any political state or idea) to a game that in many ways mimics the harshness of real life. The real difference is that this game is more forgiving than real life, real life doesn't let you respawn (with the possible exception of an ancient carpenter or 2).
Quote:As to the game. I'd blame the victim...the second or third time he did the same stupid thing. But then he's not a victim anymore. He's just an idiot that can't learn from his mistakes.
This part kind of illustrates the overly forgiving nature some people have. I don't share such a nature, mistakes are inevitable, but giving a person a pass on their stupid action (1st time or otherwise) only enables subsequent stupidity.
Quote: But you make a lot of mistakes in this game. It's complex and full of people like yourself that have exactly zero empathy for new people trying to climb that learning cliff. How do you expect them to learn with you vultures circling around waiting to verbally abuse any perceived weakness.
By being a man, shouting "F YOU" and charging on. If a person needs 'empathy' from RANDOM faceless internet people, they probably need to be off the internet. The word random is there for a reason, it is the players responsibility to seek out and join with people who will 'empathize' with them and teach them, BEFORE things go bad.
Quote:Try helping instead of hindering. It will feel more fulfilling in the game and in real life. Mr Epeen
I help people in the game all the time, by not lying to them ("it's ok, the stupid thing you did to yourself wasn't really your fault, it was those evil bad people") but rather giving them the kick in the pants they need to man up and fight for what they want in game.
People like you (ie enablers) mean well, but ultimately you do more harm than good. In this game and outside it.
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blizarus facto
Zero TAX lol
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Posted - 2015.08.16 03:37:32 -
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To those who tought that I blame the killers, I do not blame anyone, but the ship was preaty OP, it loocked on me in one instant after decloaking. |
Zimmy Zeta
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2015.08.16 09:38:04 -
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blizarus facto wrote:To those who tought that I blame the killers, I do not blame anyone, but the ship was preaty OP, it loocked on me in one instant after decloaking.
Yeah, I saw the killmail. There really wasn't much you could have done after they locked you, running into 2 quicklock artie-Machs would have killed most of us. Try to fly cheaper and more agile ships (frigates) if you absolutely have to venture into the complete unknown, but some situations are simply hard to survive in EVE, even for vets.
I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it.
Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
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Posted - 2015.08.16 10:57:43 -
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blizarus facto wrote:To those who tought that I blame the killers, I do not blame anyone, but the ship was preaty OP, it loocked on me in one instant after decloaking.
You're new to EVE, so you've got some learning to do. This experience, I hope, has taught you something, something that will make you a better player more capable of surviving the harsh PVP environment that this game is.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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