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Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.08.20 04:58:31 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:And..........CCP caves !!!!!
Surprised, nope. Just go back to before. You surrendered in what one month?
Way to hold out there CCP.
Lets do this, since you are spineless cowards just let the CSM tell you what they want and you code it. Time to end the charade that you CCP are in any semblance of control of the game's direction and just admit nullsec owns you to the core.
CCP your pathetic groveling sickens me, i can only assume none of you have mirrors in your homes because staring cowardice in the face every morning would be just be too much for anyone to deal with on a daily basis.
A bit too harsh on the outside but incredibly correct at the core. QFT. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6813
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Posted - 2015.08.20 05:03:23 -
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Querns wrote:Sentamon wrote: Nobody will ever take you on, ever ... unless CCP starts giving out free Titans and someone else wants to run a 50k coalition. A 1v1 with entosis pilots is about the best you can hope for, but you send overwhelming numbers at him too and cant figure out why he runs.
But keep on recruiting and blueing and don't let the door hit you on the ass when you leave.
I love that the idea that the Imperium's invincibility is so assured that even people who hate the coalition are accepting it as gospel. It's probably our most successful piece of agitprop ever, and it's at its strongest when the barrier to entry for sov warfare is at its lowest. The Imperium leadership are the heroes we need and deserve.
It's the best <3
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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Pandora Myuki
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2015.08.20 05:34:02 -
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fix for the ceptor issue, 1 is just as good as the other. 1. Reduce the cargo hold capacity of ceptors and increase the stront amount required that would exceed cargo capacity of interceptors or 2. Entosis links can only be fit on Cruisers or larger. either one should be an easy fix. |
Tallardar
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
56
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Posted - 2015.08.20 05:37:37 -
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Orca Platypus wrote: Gewns and UAxDEATH try being dominionfags and fail pathetically. Working as intended.
I like how you had to tack on a bit of homophobia in your descriptor to express how upset you are that active players are sharing their opinions on their mains.
CCP and the ISD should probably remove this bit of of aspersion that calls a person a homophobic slur.
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Orca Platypus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
58
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Posted - 2015.08.20 05:47:22 -
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Tallardar wrote:Orca Platypus wrote: Gewns and UAxDEATH try being dominionfags and fail pathetically. Working as intended. I like how you had to tack on a bit of homophobia in your descriptor to express how upset you are that active players are sharing their opinions on their mains. CCP and the ISD should probably remove this bit of of aspersion that calls a person a homophobic slur.
Recent examples show that people who look for homophobia will find it even in theater shows for kids with no sexual context whatsoever. But it is lovely that instead of the meaningful part you want to remove it for some non-existent homophobia. It shows I'm right. |
Tallardar
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
56
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Posted - 2015.08.20 05:54:49 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:Tallardar wrote:Orca Platypus wrote: Gewns and UAxDEATH try being dominionfags and fail pathetically. Working as intended. I like how you had to tack on a bit of homophobia in your descriptor to express how upset you are that active players are sharing their opinions on their mains. CCP and the ISD should probably remove this bit of of aspersion that calls a person a homophobic slur. Recent examples show that people who look for homophobia will find it even in theater shows for kids with no sexual context whatsoever. But it is lovely that instead of the meaningful part you want to remove it for some non-existent homophobia. It shows I'm right.
Actually, "fags", which you added at the end of "dominion", isn't "finding homophobia where it doesn't exist" since it's quite literally used as a pejorative towards homosexuals. I'm sorry you can't comprehend that and are assuming me pointing out that it breaks the forum posting rules is somehow trying to censor you or somehow proves your asinine claims right.
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Warmeister
Van Diemen's Demise Pandemic Legion
38
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Posted - 2015.08.20 06:08:31 -
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Tallardar wrote: Actually, "fags", which you added at the end of "dominion", isn't "finding homophobia where it doesn't exist" since it's quite literally used as a pejorative towards homosexuals. I'm sorry you can't comprehend that and are assuming me pointing out that it breaks the forum posting rules is somehow trying to censor your inane "Grr Goon" posts rife with grammatical errors.
only in American English. in proper english it has different meanings |
Skia Aumer
Planetary Harvesting and Processing LLC Desman Alliance
182
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Posted - 2015.08.20 06:33:32 -
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These fights have nearly nothing to do with sov. It's goodfight in it's finest. G-Club dudes are great frenemies and I give them huge kudos. No-one would ever want to purge them out of their regions while they ignite such conflicts. The sheer amount of fun all involved side have can only be merited to the event-makers of corresponding alliances, and if anythig, such fights are happening despite the efforts of certain CCP developers. Fozziesov battles should be, by design, spread across the constellation - while what we see is a good old blob slugfest. By the way, a new battle happened just recently. Once again, sov was not a factor, we just wanted to brawl. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6813
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Posted - 2015.08.20 07:12:23 -
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Skia Aumer wrote:These fights have nearly nothing to do with sov. It's goodfight in it's finest. G-Club dudes are great frenemies and I give them huge kudos. No-one would ever want to purge them out of their regions while they ignite such conflicts. The sheer amount of fun all involved side have can only be merited to the event-makers of corresponding alliances, and if anythig, such fights are happening despite the efforts of certain CCP developers. Fozziesov battles should be, by design, spread across the constellation - while what we see is a good old blob slugfest. By the way, a new battle happened just recently. Once again, sov was not a factor, we just wanted to brawl. So as long as you feed someone killmails they won't have to troll your sov huh
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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gascanu
Bearing Srl.
240
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Posted - 2015.08.20 07:25:40 -
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why would anyone fit an entosis link on a bs? or a bc? why would anyone fit an entosis on any other type of ship except a frig or a recon/t3? even if you are really trying to take sov, why would you fit the entosis on a bs for example? much easyer to fit it on a frig and buzz around till the fight is over(if there is a fight), and if you win, you go and entosis stuff, if you lose you run away; the problem that CCP fail to understand is that some ships are much better at entosising stuff than the others; and in entosis case, frigs can do exactlly the same work a bs/bc will do, but with much less risk and much faster(faster aka traveling times)
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Freelancer117
so you want to be a Hero
317
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:01:27 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote: EDIT: The main thing this system needs, just as Dominion needed, is a sov transfer function so peaceful transfers of sov can be conducted quickly and easily. But I'm sure CCP's keenly aware of this and said tweak will occur.
Indeed
Problem: in Dominion sov, alliances had means to transfer sov between them, however long and inconvenient it was. In the new sov, this ability was removed, which is ridiculous for a sci-fi game. Solution: allow executor corporations to transfer remotely structures via listed sov structures context menu, similar in the way it is now with the customs offices.
source: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5934032#post5934032
Regards, a Freelancer
The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1833
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:07:26 -
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Arrendis wrote:Orca Platypus wrote:Gewns and UAxDEATH try being dominionfags and fail pathetically. Working as intended. It's really kind of disingenuous to claim some minor hiccups during a sov transfer is 'fail pathetically'. Where are all the timers in Deklein?
The lack of timers on Deklein demonstrates just how right you guys are playing it.
So the question is.....why are certain other entities toiling so bad? |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1833
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:12:31 -
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Wolfensrevenge wrote:Icycle wrote:afkalt wrote:Have the newbros kill them: [Atron, newbro kill farming] Overdrive Injector System II Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Damage Control II 5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, CN Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, CN Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, CN Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I All Meta barring the OD (lol hull upgrades II) and the DC (lol hull upgrades IV). 4743/6781m/s with heat. Feed the newbros delicious kills My point exactly. Heck you dont even need the tech 2 stuff. You can easelly do this with tech 1 only. You guys have never played eve? Your not going to catch a ceptor with a 250 Km headstart going 750ms faster......Get your head out of jita 4-4
4kms interceptor which can't warp and needs to be with 25km of the structure. It'll be 145km off the object when you land, assuming a 30s warp time.
So you heat the MWD, you'll close the cap to scram range in 50-51 seconds (145/2.781km/s = ~52.1). The interceptor is now 350km off the structure, which is near breaking grid, but you'd pop right after it but frankly it's more likely the grid would just extend.
Not much margin of error, but then, that's a meta Atron....a faster ship would rip into it even quicker. Hell I'm sure you could use a condor so you'll only need to get to LML range because it's self tackled.
And that's worst case "no-one in system when ping goes out". If you're in system it'll be easier again to catch. |
Aiyshimin
Fistful of Finns Triumvirate.
532
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:19:49 -
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Kystraz wrote:Oh boy, tech 1 frigates and interceptors. Exactly what I started playing eve for.
Well you havent even been accepted to a player corp yet, so maybe even T1 frigs are more than you can handle, stick to rookie ships until you learn the basics. |
Aiyshimin
Fistful of Finns Triumvirate.
532
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:22:39 -
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Querns wrote:Sentamon wrote: Nobody will ever take you on, ever ... unless CCP starts giving out free Titans and someone else wants to run a 50k coalition. A 1v1 with entosis pilots is about the best you can hope for, but you send overwhelming numbers at him too and cant figure out why he runs.
But keep on recruiting and blueing and don't let the door hit you on the ass when you leave.
I love that the idea that the Imperium's invincibility is so assured that even people who hate the coalition are accepting it as gospel. It's probably our most successful piece of agitprop ever, and it's at its strongest when the barrier to entry for sov warfare is at its lowest.
Being universally despised as an opponent is not exaclty the same as being invincible. Nobody wants to play with you or like you play, we prefer enjoying our lives and computer games. |
xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
654
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:30:36 -
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gascanu wrote:why would anyone fit an entosis link on a bs? or a bc? why would anyone fit an entosis on any other type of ship except a frig or a recon/t3? even if you are really trying to take sov, why would you fit the entosis on a bs for example? much easyer to fit it on a frig and buzz around till the fight is over(if there is a fight), and if you win, you go and entosis stuff, if you lose, you run away; the problem that CCP fail to understand is that some ships are much better at entosising stuff than the others; and in entosis case, frigs can do exactlly the same work a bs/bc will do, but with much less risk and much faster(faster aka traveling times), and also, much much cheaper
Players will always take the avenue that affords least risk from their point of view. Right now the best way to do that is to fit for speed, as it allows the player to ignore combat the majority of the time. When you incentivise speed in this way you're also removing any need to bring more than one ship to that grid; in every case your best option is to disengage and run away so why bother bringing additional forces?
The simplest way to encourage players to invest into an attack is to replace the no remote assistance penalty with a no-MWD penalty. Now the most reliable way to survive is to bring friends along to help keep you alive.
Of course this doesn't resolve the sov-trolling aspect; even with no MWD, disposable ships with Entosis links are still affordable. If you hate someone enough 50m a pop to harass them constantly is hardly going to break the bank. After all players have been doing this for ages with siphons, dictors and anchorable bubbles. The simplest solution here is to make such disposable ships harder to maintain. Bump up the stront cost for Entosis mods so that a typical frigate or cruiser would struggle to contest any ADM higher than 1-2 without reloading their fuel (a good starting point is 2 stront per minute). This either forces them to gimp their fits with cargo expanders, bring another ship entirely, or bring friends along who can refuel them. In every case the effort involved from the attacker is a little higher. |
Rivr Luzade
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
1797
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:32:55 -
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Wolfensrevenge wrote:You guys have never played eve? Your not going to catch a ceptor with a 250 Km headstart going 750ms faster......Get your head out of jita 4-4 Then you at least drive them outside of entosis range. You cannot stay within 25km range on any structure (you cannot fit a T2 EL on a frig, let alone a ceptor.) when one or two other ceptors are chasing you. Fight won. Where's the problem? No killmail? Get over it.
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xttz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
654
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:44:02 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Wolfensrevenge wrote:You guys have never played eve? Your not going to catch a ceptor with a 250 Km headstart going 750ms faster......Get your head out of jita 4-4 Then you at least drive them outside of entosis range. You cannot stay within 25km range on any structure (you cannot fit a T2 EL on a frig, let alone a ceptor.) when one or two other ceptors are chasing you. Fight won. Where's the problem? No killmail? Get over it.
I can't help but think you would have defended pre-2007 Titans using the same logic.
Rivr Luzade would have said: wrote: Just tank for their racial doomsday damage. They only get one shot to kill you and if you tank it you're fine. Fight won. Where's the problem? You have to go to ridiculous lengths to catch / kill them? No killmail? Get over it.
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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1833
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:48:41 -
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xttz wrote:gascanu wrote:why would anyone fit an entosis link on a bs? or a bc? why would anyone fit an entosis on any other type of ship except a frig or a recon/t3? even if you are really trying to take sov, why would you fit the entosis on a bs for example? much easyer to fit it on a frig and buzz around till the fight is over(if there is a fight), and if you win, you go and entosis stuff, if you lose, you run away; the problem that CCP fail to understand is that some ships are much better at entosising stuff than the others; and in entosis case, frigs can do exactlly the same work a bs/bc will do, but with much less risk and much faster(faster aka traveling times), and also, much much cheaper Players will always take the avenue that affords least risk from their point of view. Right now the best way to do that is to fit for speed, as it allows the player to ignore combat the majority of the time. When you incentivise speed in this way you're also removing any need to bring more than one ship to that grid; in every case your best option is to disengage and run away so why bother bringing additional forces?
That'll happen right up until someone actually wants the system.
Like happened here:
http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4825,4830,4828,4826,4824,4829,4827,4815&b=6643920&e=120&t=WrmIauqLc&r=1
You see, as people have been trying to point out, when the chips come down, it's not nanoships doing the fighting.
I still don't think sov owners should be able to be essentially immune to harassment, virtually all the suggestions to "fix" this would create a world where you can hide behind passive defences - bubbles and low effort bottleneck camps and harassment becomes an impossible thing. That's not healthy. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1093
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:51:58 -
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afkalt wrote:Arrendis wrote:Orca Platypus wrote:Gewns and UAxDEATH try being dominionfags and fail pathetically. Working as intended. It's really kind of disingenuous to claim some minor hiccups during a sov transfer is 'fail pathetically'. Where are all the timers in Deklein? The lack of timers on Deklein demonstrates just how right you guys are playing it. So the question is.....why are certain other entities toiling so bad?
Just wait until they go on campaign...
EDIT: I hope...
Ella's Snack bar. With all the data supplied on API/CREST the game should be renamed to Jabber Online, look something to kill, ping everyone!!!!
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Rivr Luzade
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
1797
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:53:55 -
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I do not see how fitting highest possible resists against actual incoming damage is in any way comparable to driving a ship off the field or catch it and destroy it. Please enlighten me how a "fight is won" with a titan on field that you can kill or get other people to kill and how this compares to actually preventing people from attacking what they want to attack. I also do not see how there's any "ridiculous lengths to catch/kill them" involved. In particular after the coming changes, any ceptor is easily catchable by other ceptors.
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Arkady Romanov
Hole Violence Whole Squid
628
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:55:18 -
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Dracvlad wrote:afkalt wrote:Arrendis wrote:Orca Platypus wrote:Gewns and UAxDEATH try being dominionfags and fail pathetically. Working as intended. It's really kind of disingenuous to claim some minor hiccups during a sov transfer is 'fail pathetically'. Where are all the timers in Deklein? The lack of timers on Deklein demonstrates just how right you guys are playing it. So the question is.....why are certain other entities toiling so bad? Just wait until they go on campaign... EDIT: I hope...
I kind of hope we do a surprise buttsex of all of Providence and capture like 95% of it over a weekend. Using trollceptors just to twist the knife.
Whole Squid: Get Inked.
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Rivr Luzade
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
1797
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Posted - 2015.08.20 08:56:33 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:I kind of hope we do a surprise buttsex of all of Providence and capture like 95% of it over a weekend. Using trollceptors just to twist the knife. CFC wanted to do it. They realized how infeasible it is. Good luck with your ceptors.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1606
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Posted - 2015.08.20 09:05:45 -
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Arkady Romanov wrote:I am curious about something.
Why has CCP decided that the minimum barrier to entry as a Sov holding entity is a 50 mill, T2 frigate?
Dominion sov was flawed. The investment required to be a player in the Sov game at that time was a massive super fleet, and the logistic acumen of a real life medium sized business. This was absolutely unsustainable and needed to change. I don't think too many people would disagree.
It did have some advantages however. Wars required commitment, both in time and assets. The wars and politics were unlike anything any other game has offered. They were in many ways, EVE's unique selling point. They were the narrative for the history of the game. They gave the game a prestige. That's gone now. You can obtain Sov using an unarmed ship.
To me, contesting sov should be a game of thrones. Sov wars should require commitment to initiate. 50 mill of T2 frigate is not a commitment. My corp, which doesn't live in null, should not have been able to take sov just for yuks.
Dominion had limited life left in it because there were only a finite number of entities that could reasonably contest it. It had to change, but I think it was a mistake to abandon everything learned from it. There is no sense of occasion in fozzie sov. There is no sense of loss when a system changes hands or accomplishment when it is taken. Somewhere, between the obscene commitment of dominion and the laughable execution of fozziesov must be a happy medium.
Bring back the game of thrones. Bring "epic" back.
Well put.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1606
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Posted - 2015.08.20 09:12:49 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I just realized what the problem is. Since the T20 scandal, CCP employees have been forbidden to join sov holding alliances, right? So, as far as sov is concerned, they literally don't play their own game, and they haven't for years.
A good point.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Rivr Luzade
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
1798
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Posted - 2015.08.20 09:26:36 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I just realized what the problem is. Since the T20 scandal, CCP employees have been forbidden to join sov holding alliances, right? So, as far as sov is concerned, they literally don't play their own game, and they haven't for years. A good point. Is it? How much truth lies in the rumors of some of them having alts in such organizations? Even if not, it's an unsolvable problem with human nature as the biggest obstacle.
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Icycle
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
114
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Posted - 2015.08.20 09:34:16 -
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afkalt wrote:Wolfensrevenge wrote:Icycle wrote:afkalt wrote:Have the newbros kill them: [Atron, newbro kill farming] Overdrive Injector System II Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste Damage Control II 5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I X5 Prototype Engine Enervator Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, CN Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, CN Antimatter Charge S Modal Light Electron Particle Accelerator I, CN Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I Small Auxiliary Thrusters I All Meta barring the OD (lol hull upgrades II) and the DC (lol hull upgrades IV). 4743/6781m/s with heat. Feed the newbros delicious kills My point exactly. Heck you dont even need the tech 2 stuff. You can easelly do this with tech 1 only. You guys have never played eve? Your not going to catch a ceptor with a 250 Km headstart going 750ms faster......Get your head out of jita 4-4 4kms interceptor which can't warp and needs to be with 25km of the structure. It'll be 145km off the object when you land, assuming a 30s warp time. So you heat the MWD, you'll close the cap to scram range in 50-51 seconds (145/2.781km/s = ~52.1). The interceptor is now 350km off the structure, which is near breaking grid, but you'd pop right after it but frankly it's more likely the grid would just extend. Not much margin of error, but then, that's a meta Atron....a faster ship would rip into it even quicker. Hell I'm sure you could use a condor so you'll only need to get to LML range because it's self tackled. And that's worst case "no-one in system when ping goes out". If you're in system it'll be easier again to catch.
30 seconds is a loooooong warp =). Maybe x-70 has this but that one of very few systems. The average is probably about 15 secs. But lets use worst case scenario JUST to make you happy.
"So you heat the MWD, you'll close the cap to scram range in 50-51 seconds (145/2.781km/s = ~52.1). The interceptor is now 350km off the structure," But how close are you know in your frigate/ceptor by the time target is 350km from structure? The answer is you are equal 145km from it. Correct? Your distance will only decrease now. So now you fly 52 sec and now you already caught it. The distance from struture is meaning less. Your fleet is within an easy warp range. More than perfectly double even when you select a noob ship and select ridiculous initial warp ranges. |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1833
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Posted - 2015.08.20 09:36:11 -
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It's not that long actually. Pretty average the time you accelerate, decelerate then regain ship control.
It is fairly neat, but certainly doable. |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1833
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Posted - 2015.08.20 09:50:15 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:Arkady Romanov wrote:I am curious about something.
Why has CCP decided that the minimum barrier to entry as a Sov holding entity is a 50 mill, T2 frigate?
Dominion sov was flawed. The investment required to be a player in the Sov game at that time was a massive super fleet, and the logistic acumen of a real life medium sized business. This was absolutely unsustainable and needed to change. I don't think too many people would disagree.
It did have some advantages however. Wars required commitment, both in time and assets. The wars and politics were unlike anything any other game has offered. They were in many ways, EVE's unique selling point. They were the narrative for the history of the game. They gave the game a prestige. That's gone now. You can obtain Sov using an unarmed ship.
To me, contesting sov should be a game of thrones. Sov wars should require commitment to initiate. 50 mill of T2 frigate is not a commitment. My corp, which doesn't live in null, should not have been able to take sov just for yuks.
Dominion had limited life left in it because there were only a finite number of entities that could reasonably contest it. It had to change, but I think it was a mistake to abandon everything learned from it. There is no sense of occasion in fozzie sov. There is no sense of loss when a system changes hands or accomplishment when it is taken. Somewhere, between the obscene commitment of dominion and the laughable execution of fozziesov must be a happy medium.
Bring back the game of thrones. Bring "epic" back.
Well put.
Does this not fit the bill? A somewhat serious fight over a station: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3hn4n5/fozzisov_fight_pretty_awesome_clash_going_on/ http://evf-eve.com/services/brcat/?s=4825,4830,4828,4826,4824,4829,4827,4815&b=6643920&e=120&t=WrmIauqLc&r=1
Machariel, T3, HAC fleets, not interceptors dancing around field here.
"Epic"? No, I'd say not - but certainly an indicator that when people REALLY want something and the owners REALLY want to keep it it's not the small ships which are wheeled out.
The system is in its infancy, this is the first actual fight I'm aware of and it's sure as hell not nano-games. |
Wolfensrevenge
Black Aces I N F A M O U S
19
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Posted - 2015.08.20 09:57:42 -
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Skia Aumer wrote:These fights have nearly nothing to do with sov. It's goodfight in it's finest. G-Club dudes are great frenemies and I give them huge kudos. No-one would ever want to purge them out of their regions while they ignite such conflicts. The sheer amount of fun all involved side have can only be merited to the event-makers of corresponding alliances, and if anythig, such fights are happening despite the efforts of certain CCP developers. Fozziesov battles should be, by design, spread across the constellation - while what we see is a good old blob slugfest. By the way, a new battle happened just recently. Once again, sov was not a factor, we just wanted to brawl.
Was a good Fight they came we fought everyone had fun but they were coming to get the reinforce timer. In a proper fleet not a troll ceptor... Hats off to G-Club for the fun. |
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