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Bentakhar
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.08.22 22:03:28 -
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Ariz Black wrote:Justa Hunni wrote:So judging by the increasing number of pay for skins coming out can we conclude that the free-form painting system that CCP Seagull showed at Fanfest two years ago is dead in the water?
Shame really, I would prefer being able to customize things rather than get nickel and dimed to death if I want something beside the vanilla ships. they were showing it as an internal tool that would let their artists make lots of nice new ship skins, which they clearly are doing. it was never even mentioned that players would be able to use it.
I'm sorry but they said soooo many times that they 'wanted to give us these controls' to 'see what we come up with' and 'give that freedom to the players' and so on. Every fanfest they say this! They showed us awesome tech demos ... and now what do we get?? ... they changed the basemap on some caldari ships from grey to red? Then all the rest of the skins are basically silver and blue (intaki, kador, eom, quafe, sanctuary and so on ...)
Kind of a joke. Homeworld had a custom skin system which included , stripes, basecolor and a logo. ANY logo you wanted. and that was in the early 2000s.
So disappointed by the half-assed SKIN system. So much potential. So much possibilities to make it a rich gameplay feature by involving exploration , industry and PI. Making people collect and mix pigments, create / find skin patterns, perfect them and sell them... And all we got is a 'BUY' button. It is so out of the sandbox that its not even funny.
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flaming phantom
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.08.22 23:03:15 -
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The Valklear Glory theme is awesome! I hope it comes out for the thrasher, wolf, svipul and/or rapier! Would definitely get some more Aurum for one of those.
EDIT: to all the haters. While I could immediately agree that being able to make your own skins would be cool, I actually wouldn't like everyone making their obnoxious or inappropriate ship skins. I am find with leaving it to CCP, just make more skins available for more ships.
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
322
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Posted - 2015.08.23 06:15:23 -
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Bentakhar wrote:I'm sorry but they said soooo many times that they 'wanted to give us these controls' to 'see what we come up with' and 'give that freedom to the players' and so on. Every fanfest they say this! They showed us awesome tech demos ... and now what do we get?? ... they changed the basemap on some caldari ships from grey to red? Then all the rest of the skins are basically silver and blue (intaki, kador, eom, quafe, sanctuary and so on ...)
Kind of a joke. Homeworld had a custom skin system which included , stripes, basecolor and a logo. ANY logo you wanted. and that was in the early 2000s.
So disappointed by the half-assed SKIN system. So much potential. So much possibilities to make it a rich gameplay feature by involving exploration , industry and PI. Making people collect and mix pigments, create / find skin patterns, perfect them and sell them... And all we got is a 'BUY' button. It is so out of the sandbox that its not even funny.
Exactly what I'm thinking about whole SKIN system. They not made by players. It's good there are corporation skins with corp logos made by devs, but I want to paint hulls my way. I want caldari colours stratios with navy camo. This what I called custom skin. I understand there are money in whole system to be made, it's business after all, but can we divide ingame corporations skins from player made ones? No matter how you called new skins line, designers or not, players have zero impact how they look.
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Rat Scout
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.23 08:28:46 -
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Designer SKIN's for T1 ships are like GUCCI purses sold at the docks in Miami. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
4004
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Posted - 2015.08.23 11:18:13 -
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Malcanis wrote:These look nice I guess.
When are we getting corp and/or alliance logos? Or skins with colour trims that reflect alliance colours?
As a technical issue, it would be pretty easy for you to implement, so what's the holdup?
Good luck with that, I've been waiitng the release of a dress since April 2011...
73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
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FarScape III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2015.08.23 19:32:00 -
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Oh no. These look like house paint? An entirley red drab ship. And blue crayon and gold spay paint?
Look, just don't use dark colors like the intaki dark blue and those dark brown on the minmatar ships because you can not see them.
You got lines going in any old direction etc... these are bad.
Quaife is one of the best because it is a pretty shiny blue you can see too.
And the Police Comet looks like one of the best AND because you can see it.
Please just try starting with just one at a time, and make sure it really looks nice because these things will be around a long time.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32224
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Posted - 2015.08.23 22:41:13 -
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Yusss. I believe in you, Peter.
Is there a chance you might use vanity item sales to build up a real money tournament prize pool? Items that are only available for real money directly (not AUR), and have to be redeemed directly to a character, never reaching the in-game market.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32224
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Posted - 2015.08.24 02:09:13 -
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Tournament edition SKINs, rivaling the appeal of the Serenity SKINs we can see via item lookup, or an XIV avatar background. Tournament ships themselves, if you want to let it reach market.
Which I think would be a better use of those new ships, since the money from their sales would make EVE tournaments more mainstream and legitimate to outside gamers.
What would tournament teams rather have, a cool unique ship, or money? And how popular do you think an Etana would be, if it was sold for money to anyone.
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CCP Terminus
C C P C C P Alliance
313
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Posted - 2015.08.24 03:43:05 -
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flaming phantom wrote:The Valklear Glory theme is awesome! I hope it comes out for the thrasher, wolf, svipul and/or rapier! Would definitely get some more Aurum for one of those. No T3 ships are getting SKINs at the moment. But everything else you mentioned should have them yes.
Kristen Andelare wrote:How about you go bold? None of these new skins are all that inspiring. They are well-executed, yes, but still appear somewhat drab.
Capsuleers being the flamboyant bunch of swaggering immortals that we are, We like a little more flash than the average corporate drone, religious zealot or freedom fighter. Don't be afraid to offer us bold stripes, tiger, leopard, fractal, and geometric patterns, and colors that can stand the glare of harsh lighting. You can do this.
We'll love you for it. We're basically waiting on tech for that sort of stuff. The art requirements of the new structures do have a bit to do with the delays.
Inovy Dacella wrote:Will the Minmitar Sebiestor and Krusual skins return to their original color scheme in Galatea? The most expensive Minmitar skin turned green when the rust was added! As far as I know, and don;t quote me, they are being fixed up a bit in the next patch. I haven't checked but you should be able to see if they've changed or not on sisi.
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Sp3ktr3
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.08.24 04:11:42 -
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I was really excited to see the Raata Sunset SKINs, and was looking forward to buying one for my Navy Raven. Then I realized these seem to be T1 only. Will these be coming for the Navy hulls as well? If not I'll be extremely disappointed. |
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CCP Terminus
C C P C C P Alliance
313
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Posted - 2015.08.24 04:15:31 -
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Sp3ktr3 wrote:I was really excited to see the Raata Sunset SKINs, and was looking forward to buying one for my Navy Raven. Then I realized these seem to be T1 only. Will these be coming for the Navy hulls as well? If not I'll be extremely disappointed.
We would like to get them out for the Navy and T2 hulls, but there have been some delays, so for now it's T1 only.
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Max Kolonko
WATAHA. Unseen Wolves
537
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Posted - 2015.08.24 10:01:17 -
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CCP Terminus from my point of view the end-game for skins would be corporate skins/alliance skinns that all corp/alliance members can use on all ships.
I'm talking about skins made by players using generator similar to corp logo that would also have corp/alliance logo in certain points.
I know Time To Penis is a thing, that's why I would limit it to simple designer like the one used for corp logo.
Is there any chance we can see something like this in the future?
Or at least add corp/alliance logo on top of regular skin?
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Madeleine Lemmont
Divide et Impera DE Aeterna Anima
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Posted - 2015.08.24 14:53:58 -
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Thanks for the great work.
There are some nice combinations of colours out there right now. They are looking great so far. But it's not my favorite combination inside.
In Corp-Logo creator you have some colors given by system. I mixed a transparent or black one with red as background for an icon.
It would be really great to look at the presently used corp logo color combinations, in order to create new designer or future common combinations. I'd really support black/darkred combinations. Maybe designer skins should show no or the corp-logo. If I had to pay for my logo at the ship too... so what... All icons are a game-inside preset. So it should be possible to apply them at hulls.
One of my present favourites are the Khanid SKINs. I miss that look for Caldari ships a lot. The Sukuuvesta SKIN look seems to be close by. (But I don't need there logo icon. ;) ) Dark red instead of silver and voila... bought...
The new industrial like look clothing is nice. Will buy one. |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
1020
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Posted - 2015.08.24 15:41:24 -
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I like the clothes more than the skins, colors on them look so vibrant. On spaceships the dirt obscures every paint you place on it. You will have to make some dirt changing system and actual cleaning service for the spaceship.
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Sean Crees
Sean's Solo Corp
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Posted - 2015.08.24 19:40:55 -
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CCP Terminus wrote:Sp3ktr3 wrote:I was really excited to see the Raata Sunset SKINs, and was looking forward to buying one for my Navy Raven. Then I realized these seem to be T1 only. Will these be coming for the Navy hulls as well? If not I'll be extremely disappointed. We would like to get them out for the Navy and T2 hulls, but there have been some delays, so for now it's T1 only.
I honestly can't remember the last time i flew a T1 hull. It's always T2 or faction. |
Apoq Surrat
Amarritus Patriotus
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Posted - 2015.08.24 22:20:50 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:I like the clothes more than the skins, colors on them look so vibrant. On spaceships the dirt obscures every paint you place on it. You will have to make some dirt changing system and actual cleaning service for the spaceship.
All you have to do to remove the dirt and see your ship 'clean' is set your shader quality to normal in the settings window.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11410
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Posted - 2015.08.25 02:22:19 -
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Sir Livingston wrote:I eat crayons.
goodman yourself
Malcanis wrote:These look nice I guess.
When are we getting corp and/or alliance logos? Or skins with colour trims that reflect alliance colours?
As a technical issue, it would be pretty easy for you to implement, so what's the holdup? also want.
these are cool and all but i still want to paint them myself.
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David Semris
House Semris
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 06:52:14 -
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I-¦m so much ready to buy that skin for my Rattlesnake.
But I bet it will be only for Scorpion. Tragic waste of time and talent in that case. |
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CCP Legion
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Posted - 2015.08.25 08:35:58 -
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Personally I would love to see player designed SKINs, corp logos on ships/stations and all kinds of more advanced skins as well as customized sounds and engine trails and other bells and whistles. Unfortunately the tech isn't there yet and with all the stuff coming out like the citadels, the art guys are pretty busy, so no idea when these things might happen. Step at a time and hopefully later in the year we can talk with some certainty what is the next step for SKINs :)
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
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Posted - 2015.08.25 09:03:25 -
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CCP Legion wrote: Personally I would love to see player designed SKINs, corp logos on ships/stations and all kinds of more advanced skins as well as customized sounds and engine trails and other bells and whistles. Unfortunately the tech isn't there yet and with all the stuff coming out like the citadels, the art guys are pretty busy, so no idea when these things might happen. Step at a time and hopefully later in the year we can talk with some certainty what is the next step for SKINs :)
Stop teasing, it's never going to happen. CCP is making money on them. Why would I buy designer raven skin when I could make one? Why would I ever buy a paint job that costs few times more than T1 hull itself?
More important thing: where are new explosions?
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32226
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Posted - 2015.08.25 09:20:56 -
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I was enjoying the silence after that reasonable dev statement. It lasted not even 30 mins. Thanks.
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Max Kolonko
WATAHA. Unseen Wolves
544
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Posted - 2015.08.25 09:43:19 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:CCP Legion wrote: Personally I would love to see player designed SKINs, corp logos on ships/stations and all kinds of more advanced skins as well as customized sounds and engine trails and other bells and whistles. Unfortunately the tech isn't there yet and with all the stuff coming out like the citadels, the art guys are pretty busy, so no idea when these things might happen. Step at a time and hopefully later in the year we can talk with some certainty what is the next step for SKINs :)
Stop teasing, it's never going to happen. CCP is making money on them. Why would I buy designer raven skin when I could make one? Why would I ever buy a paint job that costs few times more than T1 hull itself? More important thing: where are new explosions?
who said it would be free to make one?
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
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Posted - 2015.08.25 09:56:10 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I was enjoying the silence after that reasonable dev statement. It lasted not even 30 mins. Thanks. as he wrote
CCP Legion wrote:Personally... Personally, not CCP will do it. Personally I would love all things that art guys are showing us on fafest be already in the game. Personally...
Max Kolonko wrote:who said it would be free to make one? Nobody. I expect they will be some price for make one. Not as much as today skins because they are overpriced, a lot. It's starting to resemble WoW. They have mounts we have skins...
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Bentakhar
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.08.25 10:31:46 -
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CCP Legion wrote:Personally I would love to see player designed SKINs, corp logos on ships/stations and all kinds of more advanced skins as well as customized sounds and engine trails and other bells and whistles. Unfortunately the tech isn't there yet and with all the stuff coming out like the citadels, the art guys are pretty busy, so no idea when these things might happen. Step at a time and hopefully later in the year we can talk with some certainty what is the next step for SKINs :)
As I understand the technical complexity of applying customs SKINs on a multiplayer, online scale, there are however no technical restriction to making the SKINs more tied to ingame professions.
Its a shame that SKINs don't have to be manufactured, assembled, including PI / industry in this. I am not angry at the fact that SKINs are designed by CCP, in fact I bought quite a few of them , I am just sad that the 'buy' button is sooo immersion-breaking in a game were all the economy and most of the action is player based. It seems like a huge step in the wrong direction.
(On a side note i feel the same way about avatar clothes... they should be assembled on planets using polytextiles and race specific components... there are so many useless industry items that could be made meaningfull...)
I wanted to see red planetary pigment shortage as the Rataa Sunset SKINs were made available!
tl;dr What is bugging me is that the SKINs feature is completely outside of our beloved sandbox. |
BigNarna
Bent Yellow
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:44:13 -
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While the red seems a nothing but a 'repaint that grey' idea. I realised it was perfect! : Sadly not all the listed skins are there, these ones seem to be missing (and were on your list) Badger Raata Sunset SKIN (Permanent) Tayra Raata Sunset SKIN (Permanent)
My Badger - the "Flying Brick" would be PERFECT in that red. I'd even fork out for it, but these hulls do not show them as an option under 'available skins'. What happened? |
Ben Zaye
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:07:24 -
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My 2 cents,
- The price of a skin should not exceed the price of the ship, because it's not logical. (Example : T1 Drake Raata Sunset skin = 699 millions isk = Stupid price! and the price for T1 Drake in 56 m )
- For a good gang effect, some skins should be available in all races.
- The Golem Kaalakiota skin is still as ugly. There are too many scratches and dust on the ship. In addition, the ship's definition is of poor quality.-
- Raata Sunset skin = ordinary quality and disproportionate price. The Drake's skin is too orange. Ferox skin is better.
- In general I am not impressed ! and I am rather disappointed.
- Give me a paint bucket and a paintbrush that I can do myself my own skin. This is what had been requested by the players |
Bentakhar
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
45
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:17:24 -
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Why are the designer SKINs more expensive than faction ones? You were heading to a decent and -more importantly- coherent pricing ... seriously what is wrong with you CCP? The regular SKINs are expensive enough!!!
Now for more technical stuff, the innerzone shiping domi displays what is obviously an interbus domi (in the store i mean). And all the bundle images display the old dominix model.
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CCP Terminus
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:28:23 -
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Max Kolonko wrote:CCP Terminus from my point of view the end-game for skins would be corporate skins/alliance skins that all corp/alliance members can use on all ships.
I'm talking about skins made by players using generator similar to corp logo that would also have corp/alliance logo in certain points.
I know Time To Penis is a thing, that's why I would limit it to simple designer like the one used for corp logo.
Is there any chance we can see something like this in the future?
Or at least add corp/alliance logo on top of regular skin?
These are all, to one degree or another, things we would like to do going in to the future. We would like to get corp logos on to ships, that's an art thing and they have their own priorities. We would like to have corp-wide SKINs at some point. We (or at least I) would like to have player made SKINs, using a system similar to how Valve does their cosmetics. People would submit designs, the community would vote on them, we would then vet them (key to keeping a unified artistic visions and preventing Time To Penis) and if they passed would make it into the game as a purchasable SKIN. That SKIN could theoretically be for a whole corp, etc.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
1069
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:29:35 -
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CCP Legion wrote:Personally I would love to see player designed SKINs, corp logos on ships/stations and all kinds of more advanced skins as well as customized sounds and engine trails and other bells and whistles. Unfortunately the tech isn't there yet and with all the stuff coming out like the citadels, the art guys are pretty busy, so no idea when these things might happen. Step at a time and hopefully later in the year we can talk with some certainty what is the next step for SKINs :) Corporation skins. PLEX. Corp logos. Add and stir.
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Max Kolonko
WATAHA. Unseen Wolves
545
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:52:49 -
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CCP Terminus wrote:Max Kolonko wrote:CCP Terminus from my point of view the end-game for skins would be corporate skins/alliance skins that all corp/alliance members can use on all ships.
I'm talking about skins made by players using generator similar to corp logo that would also have corp/alliance logo in certain points.
I know Time To Penis is a thing, that's why I would limit it to simple designer like the one used for corp logo.
Is there any chance we can see something like this in the future?
Or at least add corp/alliance logo on top of regular skin? These are all, to one degree or another, things we would like to do going in to the future. We would like to get corp logos on to ships, that's an art thing and they have their own priorities. We would like to have corp-wide SKINs at some point. We (or at least I) would like to have player made SKINs, using a system similar to how Valve does their cosmetics. People would submit designs, the community would vote on them, we would then vet them (key to keeping a unified artistic visions and preventing Time To Penis) and if they passed would make it into the game as a purchasable SKIN. That SKIN could theoretically be for a whole corp, etc.
One can only hope and dream :)
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