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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1475
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Posted - 2015.08.21 19:58:49 -
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As you all know by now, the Seraph, personal flagship of Empress Jamyl Sarum I has been destroyed in a single volley by a Drifter attack. However, despite overwhelming evidence that she might have died in the attack, there has been no official announcement on her death. Until then it's unwise to declare her dead. These will be dark times for the Amarr Empire and by extension, the New Eden cluster, as the Drifters made one hell of a statement today: 'We can strike anywhere, anytime & get away with it, unpunished'
The article I published is here: 'Empress Jamyl Sarum I attacked by Drifter taskforce!'
I urge everyone to remain calm & await official announcemnts regarding Empress Jamyl Sarum's fate. I will do my best to keep this thread updated regarding news on her fate & related circumstances.
Scope report on the attack that lead to the destruction of the Seraph
Short video by capsuleer Delonewolf, showing the Seraphs destruction
Empress Jamyl Sarum I attacked by Drifter taskforce!
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Daemun Khanid
Sanctus Imperialis
139
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Posted - 2015.08.21 20:06:17 -
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Since the frozen corpse of Jamyl Sarum was on field after the attack I think it's pretty safe to say she was killed.
Daemun of Khanid
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Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
145
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Posted - 2015.08.21 20:18:06 -
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i actually had to watch the scope and mr. Kho's((Delonewolf is ingame Meizu Kho)) recording multiple times. I just find the coordination and performance of drifters amazing. to take that large of a target down and depart with out extended encagement takes amazing amount of military intelligence and coordination to perform. to my knowledge not even the nullsec empires manage to pull that off. |
Daemun Khanid
Sanctus Imperialis
140
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Posted - 2015.08.21 20:23:30 -
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The nullsec empires also do not possess weapons with almost limitless damage capabilities, mounted to battleships with the agility of frigates and the locking speed of linked interceptors.
Daemun of Khanid
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
5659
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Posted - 2015.08.21 20:41:58 -
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Naraish Adarn wrote:to take that large of a target down and depart with out extended encagement takes amazing amount of military intelligence and coordination to perform. Not if all your ships have a gravity drive, an immensely powerful rift-energy superweapon and complete immunity to warp disruption.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7024
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Posted - 2015.08.21 20:43:04 -
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Today is the day everything changed.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
395
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Posted - 2015.08.21 20:59:02 -
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Daemun Khanid wrote:The nullsec empires also do not possess weapons with almost limitless damage capabilities, mounted to battleships with the agility of frigates and the locking speed of linked interceptors.
That brings up an interesting question. At the speed at which it was destroyed, were they flying defences down? |
Deitra Vess
Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel
573
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Posted - 2015.08.21 21:44:53 -
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Daemun Khanid wrote:Since the frozen corpse of Jamyl Sarum was on field after the attack I think it's pretty safe to say she was killed. If she wasn't it is direct, confirmed evidence of a clone which as we all know is forbidden.
Did they get it or did someone else? |
Haria Haritimado
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
84
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Posted - 2015.08.21 21:57:18 -
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Fellow Capsuleers,
I am still soaked from just leaving the capsule as I am writing to you. This is a sad day. Many capsuleers stayed behind and tried to evacuate who and what was left from the Titan Seraph. Some of my colleagues are running patrol routes along the Jove Observatories, others are already negotiating consequences. Things happened so fast, I can't find the right words yet.
The definition of an 'External Threat' has become visible today. No need to say that this show of force is brutal and - at least to my limited experience - unseen before. We tried to assemble what we had and I cut together a rough impression of the incident. Some interesting details may be hidden in the video. The Drifter's flight vector, number and estimated distance to the wreckage before warp-off, for example. But I don't have the power to investigate for now.
Assembled Video Footage
Fly safe and many thanks to those who joined fleet and helped to overcome this day,
Haria Haritimado Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Character blog: Horizons and Reflections
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1118
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Posted - 2015.08.21 22:37:57 -
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Naraish Adarn wrote:i actually had to watch the scope and mr. Kho's((Delonewolf is ingame Meizu Kho)) recording multiple times. I just find the coordination and performance of drifters amazing. to take that large of a target down and depart with out extended encagement takes amazing amount of military intelligence and coordination to perform. to my knowledge not even the nullsec empires manage to pull that off.
Having personally witnessed the speed of Drifter targeting systems, I can assure you we do not have that technological capability.
As for the intelligence assets and coordination? Oh yes. That, we have. We would've simply needed about 5,000 Tornados to do the same thing, and that's a lot harder to sneak in when you can't use pinpoint wormhole creation the way I suspect the Drifters do. |
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Daemun Khanid
Sanctus Imperialis
145
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Posted - 2015.08.21 23:04:08 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Daemun Khanid wrote:Since the frozen corpse of Jamyl Sarum was on field after the attack I think it's pretty safe to say she was killed. If she wasn't it is direct, confirmed evidence of a clone which as we all know is forbidden. Did they get it or did someone else?
It appeared that a neutral Gila pilot may have acquired the corpse. The Drifter forces were well out of range for (normal) cargo acquisition capabilities so it would be safe to assume they were not capable of capturing it for themselves.
Daemun of Khanid
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Deitra Vess
Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel
574
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Posted - 2015.08.21 23:12:40 -
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Daemun Khanid wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Daemun Khanid wrote:Since the frozen corpse of Jamyl Sarum was on field after the attack I think it's pretty safe to say she was killed. If she wasn't it is direct, confirmed evidence of a clone which as we all know is forbidden. Did they get it or did someone else? It appeared that a neutral Gila pilot may have acquired the corpse. The Drifter forces were well out of range for (normal) cargo acquisition capabilities so it would be safe to assume they were not capable of capturing it for themselves.
Well all things considered, there's a bright side I guess... They don't have her body. My sympathy for what all of you are going through since it was made official. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7032
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Posted - 2015.08.22 01:00:15 -
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The roaring silence from the Roden administration is suspicious.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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James Syagrius
Reclamation Technologies
1089
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Posted - 2015.08.22 01:39:12 -
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It is with the deepest sorrow that I have learnt of the death Empress Jamyl Sarum I.
On this sad occasion I recall Empress Sarum's distinguished public service and her singular role in the reform of Imperial institutions.
Not least the emancipation of millions.
The deaths of so many others only serve to deepen this tragedy.
I send my deepest sympathy to my brothers and sisters of faith.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1133
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Posted - 2015.08.22 02:02:32 -
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Markus Reese wrote:That brings up an interesting question. At the speed at which it was destroyed, were they flying defences down?
Doubtful. Likely the Seraph was configured for travel, but also used a passive tank. Given their numbers, and the amount of damage we've observed the Lux system to do... no, really, the only thing that could have saved her would have been all of the escort Aeons' remote armor repairers catching at just the right moment.
All of them. |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1479
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Posted - 2015.08.22 06:42:53 -
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Well as you all know by now, the Court Chamberlain officially confirmed the death of Empress Jamyl I. A dark day for the Amarr Empire.
I offer my condolences to the citizens of the Amarr Empire. May their faith guide them through these dark times.
Empress Jamyl Sarum I attacked by Drifter taskforce!
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Rinai Vero
Moira. Villore Accords
677
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Posted - 2015.08.22 07:29:39 -
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I'm trying to imagine what pain and loss the people of Amarr feel in the aftermath of this brutal attack, but I'm at a loss. As a Gallentean I have no idea what this portends for our future.
Today, though? Today we are all Amarrian.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1913
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Posted - 2015.08.22 08:55:39 -
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Can someone explain, how the heck Drifters knew where exactly and when to warp in?..
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1137
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Posted - 2015.08.22 09:14:04 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Can someone explain, how the heck Drifters knew where exactly and when to warp in?..
Cloaked assets on-grid, same as CONDI had? |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
970
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Posted - 2015.08.22 09:16:51 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Can someone explain, how the heck Drifters knew where exactly and when to warp in?..
SOCT spies.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
1598
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Posted - 2015.08.22 09:16:57 -
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I have to say this surprised me to say the least...however I can't help but think this was very personal between the Drifters and the Empress herself. They targeted no-one else and literally executed her with no other engagement at all with the Imperial Navy. They surely cannot be so naive to think that killing the Empress would somehow handicap the Amarr?
I would ask the Imperial governing bodies once again to release any information at all that they have regarding any possible reasons for this attack. I would also implore the Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar Empires to show restraint at this time. If this *was* something personal between the Drifters and Empress Jamyl I it would be dangerous in the extreme to risk dragging the whole of New Eden into a war with the Drifters without understanding why. |
Suzuha Yamada
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
17
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Posted - 2015.08.23 02:23:23 -
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Daemun Khanid wrote:
It appeared that a neutral pilot may have acquired the corpse. The Drifter forces were well out of range for (normal) cargo acquisition capabilities so it would be safe to assume they were not capable of capturing it for themselves.
Edited to remove reference to a "Gila". My video files of the incident do not provide sufficient evidence concerning the pilot or specific type of vessel in proximity to the remains. All that was clear was that there were at least 3 vessels that could have obtained them.
Mr. Khanid,
My office has been working on discovering who obtained the corpse, we have reason to believe it was a frigate-class vessel based on watching hours worth of neocom recordings published on galnet. Further work is underway, but more brains and eyes on neocom footage from the incident will be helpful.
If you wish to send me a mail I can happily share what information my team currently has. |
Markus Error
Her Majesty's Crown Corporation
51
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Posted - 2015.08.23 02:51:48 -
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And agin the Drifters target the Empire.
Not sure about the rest of you, but I'm puzzled. I figured they'd be spreading the love... though, I suppose that could still be forthcoming.
I'd offer condolences to the I perials among u, but.. well.
She was - technically - an enemy of my people. Sorry.
"The spirits are not the wise elders many are led to believe. The spirits are not the almighty. The spirits are not our gods, nor our inferiors; they are our companions. And with them, the will of the Minmatar is unbreakable." -The Shaman's Way
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1493
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Posted - 2015.08.23 07:15:00 -
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Updated the Opening Post to reflect the latest news regarding the death of the Empress
Reaction of Concord & the major powers: Concord & New Eden Major power's reaction to the death of the Empress
Updated my article 'Empress Jamyl Sarum I assassinated by Drifter taskforce!' to include this response.
Announcement by the Court Chamberlain regarding the succession trials: Court Chamberlain confirms Succession Trials to be held
I published a separate article regarding this, to collect the information i found regarding this announcement & what is currently known about it: 'Succession trials confirmed next year to select the new Emperor/Empress'
An additional note, since last week, the Drifters have been acting up beyond Empire space. This expanded aggression has been observed majorly in the Federation for reasons unknown. The Drifters would trade shots with gate patrols (Navy, Police or Concord) then withdraw. These are minor skirmishes, small in scale & short in time, but they are worrying nonetheless. So far this behaviour is only reported in the Federation, save for one unconfirmed report in the State. I reported on this odd actions last week in 'Amarr Navy repels third Drifter assault' Hopefully the Drifter aggression will not escalate further, considering their technological & logistic advantage they enjoy....
Succession trials confirmed to select the next Emperor/Empress
Empress Jamyl Sarum I assassinated by Drifter taskforce!
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1933
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Posted - 2015.08.23 09:15:13 -
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There's another question. After destroying the ship, they have targeted and destroyed exclusively Her Majesty's capsule, but didn't touch anyone else. Why exactly her?.. Why not high ranked Imperial fleet admirals?
It looked more like they wanted to hurt Imperial citizens and faithful more rather than diminish Imperial firepower and preparedness. |
Tabris Katz
New Moon Harvesters
30
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Posted - 2015.08.23 09:40:24 -
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Diana Kim wrote:There's another question. After destroying the ship, they have targeted and destroyed exclusively Her Majesty's capsule, but didn't touch anyone else. Why exactly her?.. Why not high ranked Imperial fleet admirals?
It looked more like they wanted to hurt Imperial citizens and faithful more rather than diminish Imperial firepower and preparedness.
I once came across an ancient document from some long forgotten author declaring, "if you truly with to inspire fear, do not kill a multitude of people. Their populous will simple think of as a monster and hunt you down. But to inflict true fear, kill a single prominent figure and display them for all to see. Then they will know the deepest fear." It would seem the Drifter have learned this lesson well.
As to you're earlier question Diana Kim, it is known that the Drifter posses technology far beyond our current understand. This is just further evidence to support this fact. Indeed it is truly troubling. |
Kairelle
Raven.Syndicate
15
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Posted - 2015.08.23 09:51:36 -
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Tabris Katz wrote:Diana Kim wrote:There's another question. After destroying the ship, they have targeted and destroyed exclusively Her Majesty's capsule, but didn't touch anyone else. Why exactly her?.. Why not high ranked Imperial fleet admirals?
It looked more like they wanted to hurt Imperial citizens and faithful more rather than diminish Imperial firepower and preparedness. I once came across an ancient document from some long forgotten author declaring, "if you truly with to inspire fear, do not kill a multitude of people. Their populous will simple think of as a monster and hunt you down. But to inflict true fear, kill a single prominent figure and display them for all to see. Then they will know the deepest fear." It would seem the Drifter have learned this lesson well. As to you're earlier question Diana Kim, it is known that the Drifter posses technology far beyond our current understand. This is just further evidence to support this fact. Indeed it is truly troubling.
Well if they wanted to inspire fear they failed. They inspired serious thought about just how much of a threat they pose to all the empires, and with the exception of some short sighted Matari everyone seems to agree on that one. They also seem to have really pissed off a majority of the Amarr capsuleers. They haven't inspired fear...they've made most of the cluster agree on the premise that they're being a threat not to be taken lightly which probably isn't going to turn out good for them.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1183
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Posted - 2015.08.23 09:54:10 -
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Tabris Katz wrote:I once came across an ancient document from some long forgotten author declaring, "if you truly with to inspire fear, do not kill a multitude of people. Their populous will simple think of as a monster and hunt you down. But to inflict true fear, kill a single prominent figure and display them for all to see. Then they will know the deepest fear." It would seem the Drifter have learned this lesson well.
Alternately, they wanted to kill her, and didn't give a crap about shooting a bunch of people they didn't particularly care about. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
1935
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Posted - 2015.08.23 10:15:05 -
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Tabris Katz wrote:Diana Kim wrote:There's another question. After destroying the ship, they have targeted and destroyed exclusively Her Majesty's capsule, but didn't touch anyone else. Why exactly her?.. Why not high ranked Imperial fleet admirals?
It looked more like they wanted to hurt Imperial citizens and faithful more rather than diminish Imperial firepower and preparedness. I once came across an ancient document from some long forgotten author declaring, "if you truly with to inspire fear, do not kill a multitude of people. Their populous will simple think of as a monster and hunt you down. But to inflict true fear, kill a single prominent figure and display them for all to see. Then they will know the deepest fear." It would seem the Drifter have learned this lesson well. As to you're earlier question Diana Kim, it is known that the Drifter posses technology far beyond our current understand. This is just further evidence to support this fact. Indeed it is truly troubling. Great idea, by the way! We should kill Roden. |
Tabris Katz
New Moon Harvesters
31
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Posted - 2015.08.23 12:21:58 -
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Kairelle wrote:...they've made most of the cluster agree on the premise that they're being a threat not to be taken lightly which probably isn't going to turn out good for them.
I completely agree with you, the Drifters recent actions might be greatest unifying catalyst for the Cluster since the return of Sansha Kuvakei. |
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