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Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.27 12:32:47 -
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Salutations Everyone! My main is almost done training for the Vargur that I intend to use to solo C5s in, but after watching several NEWER videos, it seems that may be a taller order then I imagine for a solo Vargur even with siege links running. And then I saw the incredible ability of the Naglfar soloing C5's like a boss, and now I WANT ONE. So can anyone be so kind as to give me a lowdown of the minimum skills needed to solo C5s in a Naglfar. I did my research and to my knowledge, I'm needing these skills:
Electronic Warfare IV Frequency Modulation IV Long Distance Jamming IV Target Painting IV Signature Focusing IV
Science V Warp Drive Operation V Jump Drive Calibration IV Jump Drive Operation V
Advanced Spaceship Command V Capital Ship III Minmatar Dreadnought IV
Tactical Weapon Reconfiguration IV Capital Projectile Turret IV Capital Shield Operation IV
With my current 27 mill SP on my main, all I'm needing to my knowledge are these skills which I can train within 110-120 more days. Please advice me if I'm missing some skills or knowledge on the subject, thanks!
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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire Great Blue Balls of Fire
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Posted - 2015.08.27 12:44:31 -
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The biggest thing with solo dread escalations are dps and cap. So good cap skils and getting the maximum dps is what you're after.
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Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.08.27 12:47:53 -
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good ones
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Jack Miton
WeebleCORP
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Posted - 2015.08.27 17:13:03 -
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Well, you need to be able to fly a Naglfar I guess. Being able to fit it also helps.
Also, level 5 skills are better than level 4 skills, which in turn are better than level 3 skills and so on and so forth.
PS: can confirm that jump skills are extremely important for running C5s, train them all to 5.
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Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
1352
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Posted - 2015.08.27 17:59:34 -
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Jack Miton wrote: PS: can confirm that jump skills are extremely important for running C5s, train them all to 5.
confirmed
trolling aside: OP do you even know what half those skills even do? |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
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Posted - 2015.08.27 18:33:11 -
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Tactical Weapons Reconfiguration V (lock faster and enhance damage), dread V (more damage), guns V and signature analysis V (faster locks). |
Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.27 23:58:02 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Tactical Weapons Reconfiguration V (lock faster and enhance damage), dread V (more damage), guns V and signature analysis V (faster locks).
All my support skills are at Lev 5. I was wondering if Siege II was mandatory or not, but out of all of the skills I listed, I'm guessing this is the one I need to train to level 5 first.
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Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.28 00:03:20 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Jack Miton wrote: PS: can confirm that jump skills are extremely important for running C5s, train them all to 5.
confirmed trolling aside: OP do you even know what half those skills even do?
No because I'm a total noob and have no idea what I'm doing. And I also don't know that you can't jump inside WHs because I'm such a total dumb noob. Also I'm not fully aware that all the ones posted thus far are Trolls besides Lloyd and Aquila. It sucks to be a clueless noob. |
Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.28 00:12:45 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Well, you need to be able to fly a Naglfar I guess. Being able to fit it also helps.
Also, level 5 skills are better than level 4 skills, which in turn are better than level 3 skills and so on and so forth.
PS: can confirm that jump skills are extremely important for running C5s, train them all to 5.
Ty for confirming my belief that jump skills aren't that important for WHs, it'll save me 40-50 days.
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Ripblade Falconpunch
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
370
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Posted - 2015.08.28 00:15:14 -
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There's an old saying that goes "if you have to ask, you probably aren't ready".
It's somewhere on the list right after "Only fly what you can afford to lose" and right before "Can I have your stuff?". |
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Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.28 00:23:50 -
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Ripblade Falconpunch wrote:There's an old saying that goes "if you have to ask, you probably aren't ready".
It's somewhere on the list right after "Only fly what you can afford to lose" and right before "Can I have your stuff?".
You won't know until you try, otherwise you'll never be ready. I'll learn sooner or later of the do and don't just like all you veterans did.
And I can afford to buy 30 Naglfars right now if I wanted to.
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Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.28 00:37:22 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:The biggest thing with solo dread escalations are dps and cap. So good cap skils and getting the maximum dps is what you're after.
All my support skills are maxed. The only thing I was really wondering is if soloing C5's in a Naglfar with training the skills I listed above doable and which skills are primary to train to lev 5. With the exception of the jump skills, I intend to train them all to lev 5 at some point, I just wanted to get in there and give it a go as soon as possible and learn how to fly the Naglfar while training all those skills to 5.
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goodlady Smith
Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy..
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Posted - 2015.08.28 01:04:25 -
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Sandrilla Sastrum wrote:Aquila Sagitta wrote:The biggest thing with solo dread escalations are dps and cap. So good cap skils and getting the maximum dps is what you're after. All my support skills are maxed. The only thing I was really wondering is if soloing C5's in a Naglfar with training the skills I listed above doable and which skills are primary to train to lev 5. With the exception of the jump skills, I intend to train them all to lev 5 at some point, I just wanted to get in there and give it a go as soon as possible and learn how to fly the Naglfar while training all those skills to 5.
Hole selection to get the best bonus for your ship plays a large part in soloing
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Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.28 01:26:41 -
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goodlady Smith wrote:Sandrilla Sastrum wrote:Aquila Sagitta wrote:The biggest thing with solo dread escalations are dps and cap. So good cap skils and getting the maximum dps is what you're after. All my support skills are maxed. The only thing I was really wondering is if soloing C5's in a Naglfar with training the skills I listed above doable and which skills are primary to train to lev 5. With the exception of the jump skills, I intend to train them all to lev 5 at some point, I just wanted to get in there and give it a go as soon as possible and learn how to fly the Naglfar while training all those skills to 5. Hole selection to get the best bonus for your ship plays a large part in soloing
It's extremely difficult to find a C5 Pulsar. Can a Naglfar solo C5 with no wormhole effect?
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Winthorp
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Posted - 2015.08.28 01:56:20 -
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goodlady Smith wrote:
Hole selection to get the best bonus for your ship plays a large part in soloing
Yeah you gotta get into dem magnetars.
Ohh wait...
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
2718
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Posted - 2015.08.28 02:57:14 -
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Tol Vir
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2015.08.28 08:02:31 -
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I believe.
All V for your gunnery supports and other support skills, then Dread and Guns IV should suffice. And you will probably want Tactical Weapons Re-config to V ideally as this will give you the extra target and what not.
What effect is the hole your going into as sometimes that will make a difference |
Felstaff Celium
Leeole's Legion Rainbow Knights
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Posted - 2015.08.28 09:44:13 -
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I'd recommend actually using your Naglfar in a WH corp that does escalations prior to attempting this.. But seeing as your like totally not hurting for ISK with the ability to buy 30 Naglfars, you may as well just throw yourself into the fire and see how you do. |
Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.28 12:03:39 -
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Tol Vir wrote:I believe. All V for your gunnery supports and other support skills, then Dread and Guns IV should suffice. And you will probably want Tactical Weapons Re-config to V ideally as this will give you the extra target and what not. What effect is the hole your going into as sometimes that will make a difference Sandrilla Sastrum wrote:
It's extremely difficult to find a C5 Pulsar. Can a Naglfar solo C5 with no wormhole effect?
Yes you can solo in a Vanilla Hole, And good luck finding a Pulsar, only person I know who wants rid of his c5 pulsar is asking silly isk for it. Last i checked every pulsar had someone in.
Thank you Tol Vir, this is reassuring since I have all my gunnery and other support skills maxed already. So I can wing it with the skills I listed at IV and the one to max first is TWR, got it. What about those jump skills, do I need them trained at all?
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Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.28 12:08:47 -
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Felstaff Celium wrote:I'd recommend actually using your Naglfar in a WH corp that does escalations prior to attempting this.. But seeing as your like totally not hurting for ISK with the ability to buy 30 Naglfars, you may as well just throw yourself into the fire and see how you do.
I'm gonna do tons of practice on SiSi before I take the plunge on TQ, but thanks for the advice nonetheless.
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J4ck Reacher
Moon Repo Inc
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Posted - 2015.08.28 15:03:02 -
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Due to recent changes in game i now believe a phoenix is one of the best dreads to do this with (due to the new missile mods, they can now hit for gd damage) however i have done this with a dread and a carrier and i prefer the carrier and just using the drones. What i also found was once u land drop a Mobile Depot, this will allow you to swap out mods as you need them. E.G. to start with you will need lots of cap due to the neuts however once u got rid of the first 6 battleships cap is not a problem and u can then use the depo to take of some cap mods and put on more DPS enhancements, (more webs, target painters, tracking so on).
also dropping a mobile tractor unit and a scan inhibiter will keep you off d-scan and most of your wrecks (while the tractor beam pulls them in)
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Alundil
Isogen 5
1003
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Posted - 2015.08.28 19:40:03 -
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Sandrilla Sastrum wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Well, you need to be able to fly a Naglfar I guess. Being able to fit it also helps.
Also, level 5 skills are better than level 4 skills, which in turn are better than level 3 skills and so on and so forth.
PS: can confirm that jump skills are extremely important for running C5s, train them all to 5. Ty for confirming my belief that jump skills aren't that important for WHs, it'll save me 40-50 days. Jump skills aren't important for living in a wh with a cap, however they ARE important for moving the cap from wherever you bought it TO the wh you'll be doing sites in and then again when moving it to a different wh our back to a decent npc null or lowsec for storage.
The better the jumps skills, the less jumps you need to make. The less jumps you need to make the less changes the cap will die in transit (GETSHOLUPENED)
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Winthorp
3631
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Posted - 2015.08.29 00:07:27 -
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J4ck Reacher wrote:
also dropping scan inhibiter will keep you off d-scan and most of your wrecks
That is just naive.
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Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.29 03:02:09 -
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Alundil wrote:Sandrilla Sastrum wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Well, you need to be able to fly a Naglfar I guess. Being able to fit it also helps.
Also, level 5 skills are better than level 4 skills, which in turn are better than level 3 skills and so on and so forth.
PS: can confirm that jump skills are extremely important for running C5s, train them all to 5. Ty for confirming my belief that jump skills aren't that important for WHs, it'll save me 40-50 days. Jump skills aren't important for living in a wh with a cap, however they ARE important for moving the cap from wherever you bought it TO the wh you'll be doing sites in and then again when moving it to a different wh our back to a decent npc null or lowsec for storage. The better the jumps skills, the less jumps you need to make. The less jumps you need to make the less changes the cap will die in transit (GETSHOLUPENED)
Will these jump skills suffice?
Jump Drive Calibration IV Jump Drive Operation V
Also can you tell me how far a Naglfar can jump with those skills?
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Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.29 03:28:04 -
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J4ck Reacher wrote:Due to recent changes in game i now believe a phoenix is one of the best dreads to do this with (due to the new missile mods, they can now hit for gd damage) however i have done this with a dread and a carrier and i prefer the carrier and just using the drones. What i also found was once u land drop a Mobile Depot, this will allow you to swap out mods as you need them. E.G. to start with you will need lots of cap due to the neuts however once u got rid of the first 6 battleships cap is not a problem and u can then use the depo to take of some cap mods and put on more DPS enhancements, (more webs, target painters, tracking so on).
also dropping a mobile tractor unit and a scan inhibiter will keep you off d-scan and most of your wrecks (while the tractor beam pulls them in)
The Phoenix?? I heard this before but thought it was a troll so I ignored it. And it's far to late for me to begin training capital missiles now so I'm pretty much stuck with the Naglfar as my only Dread atm.
I'm planning on putting up a Large Pos in a C5/C5 and closing all the holes/statics when I run the sites, so the only way I could get ganked is if someone already have ships inside the hole I'm farming logged out. |
goodlady Smith
Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy..
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Posted - 2015.08.29 03:43:55 -
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Sandrilla Sastrum wrote:Alundil wrote:Sandrilla Sastrum wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Well, you need to be able to fly a Naglfar I guess. Being able to fit it also helps.
Also, level 5 skills are better than level 4 skills, which in turn are better than level 3 skills and so on and so forth.
PS: can confirm that jump skills are extremely important for running C5s, train them all to 5. Ty for confirming my belief that jump skills aren't that important for WHs, it'll save me 40-50 days. Jump skills aren't important for living in a wh with a cap, however they ARE important for moving the cap from wherever you bought it TO the wh you'll be doing sites in and then again when moving it to a different wh our back to a decent npc null or lowsec for storage. The better the jumps skills, the less jumps you need to make. The less jumps you need to make the less changes the cap will die in transit (GETSHOLUPENED) Will these jump skills suffice? Jump Drive Calibration IV Jump Drive Operation V Also can you tell me how far a Naglfar can jump with those skills?
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Leeluvv
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.08.30 10:44:47 -
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Sandrilla Sastrum wrote: I'm planning on putting up a Large Pos in a C5/C5 and closing all the holes/statics when I run the sites, so the only way I could get ganked is if someone already have ships inside the hole I'm farming logged out.
Or a new sig appears whilst you're running the site.
Plus, you have to either build the capital in the wormhole or find a way to get it in there and, if you opt for the second option, you will probably need an escort. Solo capitals warping around wormhole space are like pinjatas. They hang there in space and everyone hits it until something falls out. |
Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.30 15:05:11 -
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Leeluvv wrote:Sandrilla Sastrum wrote: I'm planning on putting up a Large Pos in a C5/C5 and closing all the holes/statics when I run the sites, so the only way I could get ganked is if someone already have ships inside the hole I'm farming logged out. Or a new sig appears whilst you're running the site. Plus, you have to either build the capital in the wormhole or find a way to get it in there and, if you opt for the second option, you will probably need an escort. Solo capitals warping around wormhole space are like pinjatas. They hang there in space and everyone hits it until something falls out.
Good point, I haven't plan this part out fully yet. Any suggestions?
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KC Kamikaze
Black Dragon Elite Dominatus Atrum Mortis
124
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Posted - 2015.08.30 15:26:33 -
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If you are planning to do the 6 sleeper escalation waves (first dread, first carrier) a nag will work fine with T2 siege, all gunnery support skills at 5 and cap guns 4 dread 4.
Your mileage will vary. I prefer building them in the wormhole as opposed to probing out low sec connections and jumping them in, but plenty of people jump them when they need to.
Dotlan jump planner will tell you how far you can jump one with your skills.
Doing this completely solo is a **** ton of work. You'll basically have no life because if you are not farming you are spending your time rolling holes, making bookmarks of the sites (now a bit harder than it used to be since you don't get the tactical overlay line from your ship to the anom), rolling your chain to get a connection to bring your loot out and fuel/ammo/stront back in. It's best to have some friends along for the ride. A c5 wormhole can make a group of 5-10 people multi-billionaires every week.
Oh and don't waste your time with a nag. Get a moros. And it's very sad for me to say that cause I love the nag, but it's true. It's got about 50% more dps than a nag. |
Sandrilla Sastrum
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.31 01:59:14 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:If you are planning to do the 6 sleeper escalation waves (first dread, first carrier) a nag will work fine with T2 siege, all gunnery support skills at 5 and cap guns 4 dread 4.
Your mileage will vary. I prefer building them in the wormhole as opposed to probing out low sec connections and jumping them in, but plenty of people jump them when they need to.
Dotlan jump planner will tell you how far you can jump one with your skills.
Doing this completely solo is a **** ton of work. You'll basically have no life because if you are not farming you are spending your time rolling holes, making bookmarks of the sites (now a bit harder than it used to be since you don't get the tactical overlay line from your ship to the anom), rolling your chain to get a connection to bring your loot out and fuel/ammo/stront back in. It's best to have some friends along for the ride. A c5 wormhole can make a group of 5-10 people multi-billionaires every week.
Oh and don't waste your time with a nag. Get a moros. And it's very sad for me to say that cause I love the nag, but it's true. It's got about 50% more dps than a nag.
Ty for this post KC, it was a real eye opener. I guess doing this solo is doomed to fail until I get real pro at doing WHs. Also trying to get caps into a C5 seems like it'd be a real pain so I think I'll just stick with my Marauders.
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