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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.09.04 22:35:41 -
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The Golden Serpent wrote:The story in Eve is better than any other mmo ive seen, but, im really kind of shocked at how nonchalantly theyre treating this situation with the Empress being missing, the whereabouts of her body and all of that. I find it very disturbing to the point of it being sort of ridiculous to continue participating in something that is that loose ended. I cant believe theyre trying to sell us on this idea that one of the players has her body, I mean come on, that's just BS. Make your own lore and let your enjoyment of EVE revolve around that.
When your RP, or your character's lives themselves, revolve around nothing but the official storyline then you open yourself up to being redirected by that storyline, so it should be expected you'll find yourself challenged by things like the death of the Empress and other things that'll come with time.
Just imagine the chaos if the Minmatar suddenly allied with the Amarr for ::insert applicable storyline reason::. You'd have RPers carrying on about it left, right and center because their whole RP and IC persona revolved around this age-old conflict.
"Create your own content", a philosophy as applicable in RP as it is in space.
It's why I find it somewhat liberating having characters, and a personal-storyline for them, that shuns Empire and most of the events there. It's all awfully predictable and flavorless sometimes, everyone's either on one side or another of current-events and politics with most characters becoming defined by their opinions versus those politics, rather than by any particular personality or unique history of their own.
You don't need CCP storyline to enjoy fantastic RP and even stand out from the crowd while doing it. ^^
Chin up ma'am.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
216
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Posted - 2015.09.04 22:58:24 -
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I just can not understand why? Explain the for what?
Jamyl Sarum
Jamyl Sarum in "EVE: Templar One"
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
36292
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Posted - 2015.09.04 23:07:19 -
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Vollhov wrote:I just can not understand why? Explain the for what? From what I gather the OPs enjoyment of roleplay hinged purely on the quality and substance of EVE's official storyline.
When that storyline took a turn in a direction she did not like, with too many "loose ends" left afterward, she found herself unwilling to continue roleplaying in EVE because without that storyline setting as she liked it her character(s) are neutered.
The moral of the story is don't swing your character's lives purely off storyline if you're not ready for them to be tossed around along with it. Create your own content and drive your own RP.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
216
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Posted - 2015.09.05 06:17:43 -
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Drifters. The tool which was grown. https://embed.gyazo.com/2d007052d26de451828722ed9d568383.png Behind such a plot twist, I can not forgive the CCP.
Jamyl Sarum
Jamyl Sarum in "EVE: Templar One"
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
36342
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Posted - 2015.09.05 06:29:43 -
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Ohhh now I get it!
You're that guy. GÖÑ Sorry, I misunderstood your last post.
You were asking "why", as in why the Empress had to be killed, right?
Don't worry about it. I'm sure there's much more to Vollhov's existence than a distant royal family member whom he likely never met, right? ... uhh, right?
I mean .. nobody would go and put all their RP eggs into one tiny basket that's being carried by someone else would they? .. right?
I don't mean to sound self-centered here, but I've RPed in and around EVE for 5+ years now, almost 6. Countless blogs and experiences ingame through rich characters who live vibrant lives. And none of it - not one single bit - came from anything directly lore or storyline related. You won't get any sympathy from me if you say the death of a single storyline character has ruined your RP.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
1827
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Posted - 2015.09.05 07:23:16 -
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The Golden Serpent wrote: It also seems kind of silly that its CCP's only female lead. I mean there are a lot of sexist things about this game and I am aware there is only a handful of women who play for obvious reasons, I thought the Empress was CCP's token apology for being so sexist.
I have to agree Jamyl I was killed because she was a female same goes for Karin Midular
*facepalm*
No one lives forever
Akrasjel Lanate
Member of Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
Citizen of Solitude
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
224
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Posted - 2015.09.07 13:06:09 -
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Candi LeMew wrote:Ohhh now I get it!
You're that guy. GÖÑ Sorry, I misunderstood your last post.
You were asking "why", as in why the Empress had to be killed, right?
Don't worry about it. I'm sure there's much more to Vollhov's existence than a distant royal family member whom he likely never met, right? ... uhh, right?
I mean .. nobody would go and put all their RP eggs into one tiny basket that's being carried by someone else would they? .. right?
I don't mean to sound self-centered here, but I've RPed in and around EVE for 5+ years now, almost 6. Countless blogs and experiences ingame through rich characters who live vibrant lives. And none of it - not one single bit - came from anything directly lore or storyline related. You won't get any sympathy from me if you say the death of a single storyline character has ruined your RP.
1) Too bad which is best of all characters was conceived. Who had very interesting story. 2) Shocking Eventa organization. We did not have a chance to save her. 3) The hideous spoler I've ever seen. Due to any hope of her return. Not in the role of Empress. Disappears. 4) There is no history of heirs. They are empty, except for Kor-Azor. And some of does not even have a portrait. http://i.imgur.com/YLqxSki.png,
Jamyl Sarum "Good and evil"
Jamyl Sarum in "EVE: Templar One"
Jamyl Sarum
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Michael Elecon
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.09.08 03:40:42 -
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I figured that you had something good to say for a bit there but then you started rambling on about 'sexism' and at that point I knew it was going to dwindle into something that I wouldn't want to read. Gosh. |
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
238
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Posted - 2015.09.08 04:15:18 -
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Michael Elecon wrote:I figured that you had something good to say for a bit there but then you started rambling on about 'sexism' and at that point I knew it was going to dwindle into something that I wouldn't want to read. Gosh.
If you can't take the time to read somebody's argument you shouldn't take the time to make a post saying it's bad.
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Soren Tyrhanos
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
133
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Posted - 2015.09.08 05:00:38 -
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I must admit Jamyl Sarum was a huge influence of my creating my Dust 514 characters several years ago and eventually my EVE characters as well, particularly if you read the Chronicle 'All the Wayward Children' with it's portrayal of a woman who was so powerful that sense of authority or entitlement manifested in a very literal sense that others perceived and utterly feared.
As sorry as I was to see her go, I was more a mind to see her ideally split the bounds of the Other and find some means to control it, I realised that as much as I loved her as a character and really wanted to see her continue doing her Imperial thing she was a character holding mine back.
Also seeing Karin Midular die was kind of sad..... didn't really care so much back in the day but her ideals as a 'peacemaker' relative to the Amarrian bloc were rather interesting.
Still I am gunning for Catiz Tash-Murkon to take the Imperial Throne. I consider my Duster my Main New Eden character and identify him with a Udorian legacy so the richest, arguably most powerful woman, AND topping all of that off with being the first Udorian to take the throne would be brilliant.
Plus the sheer collective force of outrage of the Ardishapurites and Kadorites would universally feel would rather forcibly blow the eyeballs right out of their uptight sockets. |
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
36629
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Posted - 2015.09.08 12:34:29 -
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Vollhov wrote:1) Too bad which is best of all characters was conceived. Who had very interesting story. I'd argue that I'm far more interesting than any NPC.
And so are most of the other characters around.
(Emphasis on 'most', not 'all')
I'm also better looking. Jamyl had a terrible sculpt (shame whoever made an Empress that plain and unattractive...), though granted Amarr characters are the most challenging to make pretty.
You need to get out more (in an ingame sense) Mr Vollhov!
Vollhov wrote:2) Shocking Eventa organization. We did not have a chance to save her. The aim of the event was to kill her, not to allow players to fight or try and save her.
The outcome was pre-determined before it began and anyone there was merely a spectator.
Vollhov wrote:3) The hideous spoler I've ever seen. Due to any hope of her return. Not in the role of Empress. Disappears. Well to be honest I don't stay that closely tuned to the lore, even though I'm an RPer. Though even I had heard rumors that the Empress was set to be killed off weeks/months ago. It was no surprise to many people.
Again, I don't follow the lore that closely. Though one only needs look in IGS' recent pages to see a load of candidates mentioned, endorsed or discussed. From what I understand the position is not something that's always hereditary.
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Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
228
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Posted - 2015.09.08 13:13:39 -
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Candi LeMew wrote:Vollhov wrote:1) Too bad which is best of all characters was conceived. Who had very interesting story. I'd argue that I'm far more interesting than any NPC. And so are most of the other characters around. (Emphasis on 'most', not 'all') I'm also better looking. Jamyl had a terrible sculpt (shame whoever made an Empress that plain and unattractive...), though granted Amarr characters are the most challenging to make pretty. You need to get out more (in an ingame sense) Mr Vollhov! Vollhov wrote:2) Shocking Eventa organization. We did not have a chance to save her. The aim of the event was to kill her, not to allow players to fight or try and save her. The outcome was pre-determined before it began and anyone there was merely a spectator. Vollhov wrote:3) The hideous spoler I've ever seen. Due to any hope of her return. Not in the role of Empress. Disappears. Well to be honest I don't stay that closely tuned to the lore, even though I'm an RPer. Though even I had heard rumors that the Empress was set to be killed off weeks/months ago. It was no surprise to many people. Again, I don't follow the lore that closely. Though one only needs look in IGS' recent pages to see a load of candidates mentioned, endorsed or discussed. From what I understand the position is not something that's always hereditary. Yes you will not understand me. You came for pvp, and the shooting NPCs. I came because of the Chronicles and books. Because of the characters who were there. (None of the game has there been such) And this policy of cutting the characters I do not like. So this game is not for me. At the CCP was an option but they chose the easiest and it's sad. Good luck. P.s, and believe me I'm not the only one
Jamyl Sarum "Good and evil"
Jamyl Sarum in "EVE: Templar One"
Jamyl Sarum
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
36642
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Posted - 2015.09.08 14:22:27 -
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Vollhov wrote:Yes you will not understand me. You came for pvp, and the shooting NPCs. I came because of the Chronicles and books. Because of the characters who were there. (None of the game has there been such) No sir, you are quite wrong.
I came here to live the lives of my characters each time I login.
To be those storybook characters.
That means a lot of roleplay and yes a lot of pvp because they are combat pilots.
It's my own characters and the vibrant lives they live that drive me, and give me my enjoyment in EVE. It's that PVP that produces the epic stories of their lives. And most importantly it's the interaction with other players' characters who bring those lives to .. well, life.
It's not the lore and it's not the NPCs. It's me and other players.
Vollhov wrote:And this policy of cutting the characters I do not like. So this game is not for me. Welcome to the world of storytelling, movies, games and pretty much anything that involves fictional characters.
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Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
228
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Posted - 2015.09.08 14:45:43 -
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Candi LeMew wrote:Vollhov wrote:Yes you will not understand me. You came for pvp, and the shooting NPCs. I came because of the Chronicles and books. Because of the characters who were there. (None of the game has there been such) No sir, you are quite wrong. I came here to live the lives of my characters each time I login. To be those storybook characters. That means a lot of roleplay and yes a lot of pvp because they are combat pilots. It's my own characters and the vibrant lives they live that drive me, and give me my enjoyment in EVE. It's that PVP that produces the epic stories of their lives. And most importantly it's the interaction with other players' characters who bring those lives to .. well, life. It's not the lore and it's not the NPCs. It's me and other players. Vollhov wrote:And this policy of cutting the characters I do not like. So this game is not for me. Welcome to the world of storytelling, movies, games and pretty much anything that involves fictional characters. Good luck.
Jamyl Sarum "Good and evil"
Jamyl Sarum in "EVE: Templar One"
Jamyl Sarum
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
36643
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Posted - 2015.09.08 14:48:23 -
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I don't need luck, sir.
I am The Banana.
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Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
7600
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Posted - 2015.09.08 14:55:49 -
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So. Dissenting opinion? I've seen a few people complain about something to the effect of, "They're ruining (faction)'s roleplay!" when CCP puts forward news or events for a faction that are controversial, or catastrophic. However, to me, roleplay is best done in the context of shared crisis, because that allows for the establishment and differentiation of views, policies, personalities.
In the case of Sarum's death, while I wish the pacing of the event had been different, the succession trials and the politicking around the event shall provide a positive feast of material for Amarr roleplay.
Sure, Sarum's dead, and that's sad for her fans-- but the possibility of characters' death is necessary, and sometimes must be exercised to generate content.
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
36645
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Posted - 2015.09.08 15:08:05 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:However, to me, roleplay is best done in the context of shared crisis, because that allows for the establishment and differentiation of views, policies, personalities. To me it's sad though that some people need that context to give any kind of personality or view points to their characters. They can't formulate any kind of personality in a character without it - indeed they pretty much become little more than walking political opinions.
Strip away the lore framework and they're like mindless flotsam floating in the sea of New Eden.
I see it all the time when I try to engage some fellow RPers. They're stunned when my characters want to know what they did today, what they had for lunch or what hobbies they enjoy. They just want to argue about politics or play an emotional response to some current event and don't have a clue about their own character beyond a stance on an issue.
And here we have it in this thread a prime example of a couple of players giving up on the game/RP because that framework they needed to give their characters any kind of life has been altered slightly.
Wow ... people get some imagination.
Makoto Priano wrote:In the case of Sarum's death, while I wish the pacing of the event had been different, the succession trials and the politicking around the event shall provide a positive feast of material for Amarr roleplay.
Sure, Sarum's dead, and that's sad for her fans-- but the possibility of characters' death is necessary, and sometimes must be exercised to generate content. +1000
Couldn't agree more.
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Stig Elendil
The Scope Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2015.09.08 22:54:21 -
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@ The Golden Serpent.
I'm kind of puzzled by this post. I can agree events are often weird or abrupt in Eve. I won't say that once the Empress is dead there isn't any RP anymore. That's giving many opportunities to players to react to those events. It's not because you might don't know what to do that there is nothing else that you can't do. It's not because She is dead that nothing else can happen. And I think you're putting too much importance in only one character, on its influence over players. They can have the same kind of relation with another character, a mad guy or another mad woman would be fine as long as they can have fun around them.
Anyway, I find that strange that because they "killed" your favorite character you stop playing or doing something. Does that mean that when you're reading a book, looking at a movie or at a tv serial, if your favorite character dies you stop looking at it ? I hope for you that you weren't a fan of Eddard Stark or Robb Stark in Game of Thrones (if it happens that you ever looked at it or read the books) or did you just stop at the start of the story... ? You might be just at the start of Eve Story or at the start of your own story ingame.
I like the idea of NPC characters that can die possibly whenever CCP feels it's good (except the way they do it that isn't always great). They killed some other leaders or important characters in Eve (some that they didn't replaced... maybe only not yet). In fact Emperors (and leaders) are dying faster than capsuleers
You're also talking about the relation player/GM in RP. I have to say that I think there is no GM in Eve. We are completely left to anything good or bad, sometimes for the even worst things that could be happening in the game and I believe that it would be different with a real GM ingame (I think we wouldn't have had that stupid event with Concord puting huge plexes reward on head of players if a real GM was mastering the RP). A minimum of mastering in the game could be good but that's only how I see it. I guess many would disagree with me. For my part I'm really deceived by this kind of lack of relations between players and a GM
In the end it seems to me you're only deceived because it was a woman that has been killed (and also the timing of her death...). So be it. But that's not enough to me to stop RP. Another woman might be Empress. Bring your support to Catiz Tash-Murkon and you'll have another Empress. If you want another "bigotte" (apologies if it's not the right term) (and Jamyl was a false one, just good polician using religion in her favor) then you should push CCP to make her one too, in addition to its industrial power (hope I'm correct there ). See, you can have another character that you can be interested in. And this character could take even more importance than Jamyl had, who knows. You should take the positive way in the events happening there.
Just hope you'll keep the RP because I think you could have regrets later to quit it so fast, and I think you still have many things to bring to the RP community by the commitment you seem to want to have there. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp Vae. Victis.
6322
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Posted - 2015.09.10 00:04:10 -
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XNo, he is not the norm. He is very unusual. I did not think I would ever be able to find such a person. [u]I dont like people in general[/u] and only see pervasive and consistent wisdom in the 10,000 things. The fools see the 10,000 things and think they are dumb, but the wise man sees the people and knows they are the dummies.
This excerpt explains a great deal, especially the underlined part, although it seems more likely you don't like people that don't care to jump aboard your personal bandwagon.
I suppose some people only feel engaged when they project the role of the oppressed and victimized upon themselves.
"Pay attention to me, because I am brave and fighting the good fight against impossible odds... because the vast majority of men think all women are whores and inferior in every meaningful way."
In reality, you know this isn't the case. Of course there are some warped and twisted men that feel that way, but that hardly means you can point to one and say he is representative of the majority of men.
The truth is that in most countries a man that insisted on expressing that belief would either be laughed out of the room, or would be the recipient of verbal (and quite possibly physical) harm for lumping our wives, mothers, daughters, and friends into that assessment.
But acknowledging that truth doesn't lend much substance to the personal crusade you appear to be on, so it is conveniently ignored.
Women of strength, wisdom, and character are encountered as often in our daily lives as men with the same attributes. Fortunately those men and women tend not to be as easily manipulated into making knee jerk generalizations (as you have repeatedly done in this thread)... which would seem to put them in the role of the "wise man" in your example above.
Or have we finally come around to the point of saying that stereotyping women is despicable, but stereotyping men is perfectly fine?
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Marcus Gord
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
85234
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Posted - 2015.09.10 12:42:45 -
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I can't believe they killed [character] off in [popular tv show] i was only watching it for them, i'll have to stop watching it now!
said no one sane.
We play for the world of EVE, and in the grimdark future of New Eden, there is a living world, where people sometimes die.
In a few moments you will have an experience that will seem completely real. It will be the result of your subconscious fears transformed to your conscious awareness.
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The Golden Serpent
Order of Jamyl
145
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Posted - 2015.09.12 07:48:42 -
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I think the key here Candi is you are living through your character, as many roleplayers do. I don't think I am my characters. You obviously DO like to live through the character. That kind of roleplaying DOESN'T require a solid framework in the story and it can move easily around plotholes, it's really just playing dress up at that point. I don't roleplay like that anymore. I used to. I used to enjoy it! I don't anymore. My whole personality has changed since then. I will only roleplay if I feel like I can build a character into the story and find it believable. I never roleplayed in WoW...the story is just silly.
Stig, I didn't say there isn't any RP in Eve, and I do not have a problem with characters being killed, I am a fan of Game of Thrones. It's just that I personally spent a lot of time building my characters around the world CCP had created, making them fit in carefully in a way that made sense and they are treating the story very glibly, it's no longer a believable story. They may as well had the hand of god come down and grab the empress and throw her to the Drifters and call it believable.
I cannot make these characters respond to a world story that makes no sense, and I think a lot of other serious story roleplayers feel the same way. I think the sandbox is suffering. It would be better for the NPC's to be stable, unchanging and mostly above the fray for all kinds of roleplayers than to treat the story so badly as if it was a show cancelled early in the middle of the story and had to have a rush ending applied to it.
That's the feeling I get and people are also confirming - for whatever reason, CCP wanted to get rid of the Empress as a character.They didnt do it to move the plot forward, they did it because they didnt like her.
I am interested in characters that fit into a story, in a way that makes sense, not in living through my characters. I don't use Eve as an escape I use it as an exercise in building stories.
When the story doesn't make sense from the Gamemaster I will not roleplay with that Gamemaster. Their story sucks and they are being very callous about it.
I havn't logged in since then as the gameplay isn't that great either, it's the people on teamspeak that make it fun. The spaceships are pretty, and it's just a collection game for me at this point. |
The Golden Serpent
Order of Jamyl
146
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Posted - 2015.09.12 07:58:48 -
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Marcus Gord wrote:I can't believe they killed [character] off in [popular tv show] i was only watching it for them, i'll have to stop watching it now!
said no one sane.
We play for the world of EVE, and in the grimdark future of New Eden, there is a living world, where people sometimes die.
Actually a lot of people stop watching TV shows because their favorite gets killed, or the story gets bad. In fact networks have been known to cancel shows when the story gets too bad and the ratings plummet. Gosh I know, shocking.
And if you had even read my post you would realize it is not the death of the Empress that upset me, it's how the story was handled. |
Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
36985
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Posted - 2015.09.12 08:03:32 -
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The Golden Serpent wrote:I think the key here Candi is you are living through your character, as many roleplayers do. I don't think I am my characters, I used to be, in other games. You obviously DO like to live through the character. That kind of roleplaying DOESN'T require a solid framework in the story and it can move easily around plotholes, it's really just playing dress up at that point. I don't roleplay like that anymore. I used to. I used to enjoy it! I don't anymore. My whole personality has changed since then. I will only roleplay if I feel like I can build a character into the story and find it believable. In other words, suggesting I roleplay loosely without involving the story and all of the characters I encounter sounds really boring to me I wouldn't read too much into a tongue-in-cheek comment regarding the empress' sculpt.
I have over forty characters.
Though posting pseudo-IC comments everywhere I go is just one of the things I do. A little bit of meta.
It's fun and has no actual IC basis. Candi wouldn't know what you were talking about if you mentioned this thread to her.
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The Golden Serpent
Order of Jamyl
146
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Posted - 2015.09.12 08:08:30 -
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Well I dont enjoy being my characters. I might like putting them in pickles. I wouldnt actually enjoy living in any of their heads, as they are either especially neurotic or just evil. It's the structure of the plot that interests me, from a bird's eye view. This world feels faux now, and I don't like it, I cant get into it. |
Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
36985
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Posted - 2015.09.12 08:32:16 -
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The Golden Serpent wrote:Well I dont enjoy being my characters. I might like putting them in pickles. I wouldnt actually enjoy living in any of their heads, as they are either especially neurotic or just evil. It's the structure of the plot that interests me, from a bird's eye view. This world feels faux now, and I don't like it, I cant get into it. Hey, being an evil character can be fun too!
My characters are generally all nice in their nature, though my main character is heavily psychotic. And that can be a ton of fun to play. She just finished evicting a corporation from their wormhole and warring with their alliance for over two months. Pretty much wrecked the whole group because one of it's members jilted her. I spent almost 30b undertaking that war for almost purely IC motivations (much to the rage and confusion of the victims since most of them weren't RPers).
Became one of the most awesome experiences I'd had in EVE, leading an IC vendetta. Lotta kills and an amazing story of a psychotic-woman scorned to tell later in IC blogs! The inner struggles the characters went through during it, the fights they won or lost, etc. Gold.
That's just an example of where my RP fun comes from. That's how I live their lives. Guiding what I do ingame by what the characters would do, and vice-versa by interpreting ingame events in an IC format for story telling.
Divide that into dozens of characters and you never run out of fun and variety. The way each acts and reacts is as individual as their appearance. To me when I RP the world here couldn't feel more real, because there's real consequences and actions in everything they do. Their lives are the centerpiece of my RP and tbh Lore rarely even comes into that beyond some background info. Ain't no Banana got time for storyline!
Everyone's a lil different though!
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Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
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Gottin
Event Horizon Consecution
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Posted - 2015.09.18 19:12:24 -
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The Golden Serpent wrote: And if you had even read my post you would realize it is not the death of the Empress that upset me, it's how the story was handled.
Yes, this is the real issue. What CCP did was just terrible story plotting of the 'let's introduce more and more amazing things and twists!' school of flailing to keep the audience's attention. They wouldn't need to do this if the story didn't suck in the first place. The background is good, but the story sucks.
The first red flag for me was when Jamyl got dust implants or something. No national leader would do something so utterly stupid as inject herself with unknown alien technology when she has an empire to run. That was so stupid. I stopped following the story after that.
CCP has always made Amarr the villian. It's so tiresome. I never would've made an Amarr character if I knew they were going to do this and then add insult to injury by making them ugly in the character creator. The first quality of a good writer is to love all your characters, but CCP doesn't do that.
OP, if you wanted to integrate your character with the story, CCP was the wrong bunch to do that with.
Also, there are masses of men who love and respect women, but I don't think you're in the right headspace to hear that. That said, I'm sincerely glad you're with a great man.
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Justin Cody
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
306
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Posted - 2015.09.30 06:36:26 -
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The Golden Serpent wrote:The story in Eve is better than any other mmo ive seen, but, im really kind of shocked at how nonchalantly theyre treating this situation with the Empress being missing, the whereabouts of her body and all of that. I find it very disturbing to the point of it being sort of ridiculous to continue participating in something that is that loose ended. I cant believe theyre trying to sell us on this idea that one of the players has her body, I mean come on, that's just BS.
It also seems kind of silly that its CCP's only female lead. I mean there are a lot of sexist things about this game and I am aware there is only a handful of women who play for obvious reasons, I thought the Empress was CCP's token apology for being so sexist.
I signed up for the game because i liked the Empress, being unaware she's the only thing pro female about the game.
I brought my husband on board on the same Steam sale, my husband also liked the fact that there was a strong female lead, even given the problems some people have with Templar One, a book we both liked actually.
It felt to me that CCP wanted to kill off the Empress so they forced her into something against her character. Foolishly stepping into Safizon when all these Drifters incursions, for which there is no explanation. They seem very nonchalant about killing her on the podcast, and that was the thing that made me want to stop roleplaying in their story they dont seem to care about the players that were attached to her.
Maybe they just don't get it.
Neither of us have any idea why they would want to kill off the Empress, we cant even really imagine. The Emperors are supposed to live for hundreds of years, but instead they seem to be more interested in using her to advance the uprising of the Drifters, perhaps the Sleepers and so on. So she's almost like a chess piece or something instead of being really more of a serious component.
SO I just wanted to note that my husband and I wont be roleplaying anymore, here is a list of our characters, so you dont wonder where theyve gone or worry about finishing up stories with them:
Mine:
The Golden Serpent m1thr0s The Leopardess
His:
Akkad Akaya Ravana 729 Berashith
Thanks to everyone who played with us.
There's a lot of things to do in Eve and unluckily I bought a year subscription the night before the Empress was killed for our third account (so we could train Ravana and Akkad separately), so not going anywhere just going to focus on other things besides the unbelievable storyline. If I had known where it was going I wouldnt have done that, but here I am I still have 6 months left on this account so ill continue until then at least, playing FW.
Your ignorance is astounding. She died for 2 reasons - 1 she has a sleeper consciousness cohabitating in her mind and 2 she appropriated sleeper tech to create the DUST soldiers. However it is likely that the rogue sleeper consciousness was the bigger issue.
Also Sansha Kuvakei is a sleeper consciousness at this time. In some w-space systems you can see busted up remnants of Sansha supercarriers with Drifters around the wrecks. This tells you two things. 1 The Drifters are attacking Sansha as well and 2 Sansha can manipulate wormholes enough to move super carriers in and out of W-space and those control systems are beyond what exists currently in W-space. Ok it also tells you a third - Sansha isn't losing the war - unlike the decadent Amarr Empire. This is evidenced by the fact that he can continue his Incursions across space while fighting the Drifters. |
Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
262
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Posted - 2015.09.30 09:27:25 -
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Everything is normal. All perfectly. I continued to observe On forum "Dance of hypocrites" in the the Amarr Empire. Too bad a money can not return behind paid time. "Here I'm an idiot prepay for the year"
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
18950
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Posted - 2015.10.01 04:21:42 -
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I'd like to say - while Jamyl Sarum has indeed been killed, it was by no means of a simple want to get rid of her. In fact, the entirety of the current story arc may hinge on her and what or who was in her head with her.
The "Other", as he is called in Templar One, is either the target of or the leader of the Drifters (personally, I lean towards the latter); if he is indeed the real one in charge, the Drifters killed Jamyl to get him back. It's my personal hope that the Other emerges as the Tyrannos head honcho, but with a catch - Jamyl Sarum becomes the voice in his head
We'll see what happens - and if you or anyone else is interested in the theory I've cooked up, I've made a document - I'll be making an organized post about it soon, but you can see it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xvtRFQZT2mjPGL2rRWUHrl0B9ApTIG_cSupcDOrCIl8/edit?usp=sharing
Trust me, this wasn't a reason-less murder - things are only just getting started - just wait until the Drifter Incursions come back online and we'll see what happens
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
263
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Posted - 2015.10.01 08:45:32 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:I'd like to say - while Jamyl Sarum has indeed been killed, it was by no means of a simple want to get rid of her. In fact, the entirety of the current story arc may hinge on her and what or who was in her head with her. The "Other", as he is called in Templar One, is either the target of or the leader of the Drifters (personally, I lean towards the latter); if he is indeed the real one in charge, the Drifters killed Jamyl to get him back. It's my personal hope that the Other emerges as the Tyrannos head honcho, but with a catch - Jamyl Sarum becomes the voice in his head We'll see what happens - and if you or anyone else is interested in the theory I've cooked up, I've made a document - I'll be making an organized post about it soon, but you can see it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xvtRFQZT2mjPGL2rRWUHrl0B9ApTIG_cSupcDOrCIl8/edit?usp=sharing Trust me, this wasn't a reason-less murder - things are only just getting started - just wait until the Drifter Incursions come back online and we'll see what happens
Yes. okey
Quote:Falek ... monstrosity which thou wast before was now in me ...
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
"All these wayward children." (c) Jamyl Sarum I
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