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goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.08.28 07:42:17 -
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Hi Folks,
As the subject states I'm looking to establish a 14B open ended Bond paying 3% monthly. Make up of the bond will be 28 500Mil units.
People are free to withdraw their funds from the bond at any stage but forfeit the interest for that month.
Collateral will be in the form of: 3 x Naglafars 1x Moros 1x Loki - Fit 1x Paladin - Fit 1x Redeemer - Fit
Collateral: http://evepraisal.com/e/7210116
Start Date: 01/09/2015
Interest payment dates: 1st of each month
Will seek a 3rd party
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Dextrome Thorphan
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Posted - 2015.08.28 08:31:18 -
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Hmm 3% sure is low, but you got collateral, so count me in for 5B :) |
goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.08.28 08:41:50 -
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Thanks Dextrome Thorphan
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.08.29 09:46:23 -
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I will invest once you have confirmation of your third party. |
goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.08.29 09:54:39 -
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Hi Bobby - thank you - will update as soon as I confirm one, I'm hoping to use Chribba again but he's a busy boy will give it a couple more days and then try Darknesss and Grendell?
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.08.29 09:56:44 -
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goodlady Smith wrote:Hi Bobby - thank you - will update as soon as I confirm one, I'm hoping to use Chribba again but he's a busy boy will give it a couple more days and then try Darknesss and Grendell? RAW23 or Grendell works for me.
Chribba is responding slowly atm due to holiday/internet issues/overwork/hangover, but I'm fine with him too. |
Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.08.29 10:03:16 -
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Chribba has stated to, he will busy this weekend (in regards to my bond), but is likely back Monday likely.
IF it's ok for the both of you, I could 'hold' the collateral.
'Hold', as in case of default I will pass it on. I don't want to have to sell, appraise or anything like that. On the other hand, I will offer to do this for free.
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.08.29 10:09:18 -
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Angelica Everstar wrote:Chribba has stated to, he will busy this weekend (in regards to my bond), but is likely back Monday likely.
IF it's ok for the both of you, I could 'hold' the collateral.
'Hold', as in case of default I will pass it on. I don't want to have to sell, appraise or anything like that. On the other hand, I will offer to do this for free. I'm not in a rush, plus I don't think your MD history qualifies you as a third party.
Thanks for the offer anyway! |
Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.08.29 10:22:52 -
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It was a offer, not a threat
But I must say, I think my MD history, also doesn't disqualify me
"I sure would run with 14b of assert in low sec, instead of profits on my current bond"
Regardless - best wishes <3
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goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.08.29 10:31:55 -
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Hi Angelica Everstar,
Thank you for the offer but I will stick with the current plan at this stage.
Many thanks,
goodlady Smith
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.08.29 10:53:06 -
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Angelica Everstar wrote:"I sure would run with 14b of assert in low sec, instead of profits on my current bond" I'm a previous investor of yours and have absolutely no argument with you, however this line of reasoning doesn't hold.
Your current bond, like those before it, are collateralised. You didn't need any reputation to fill them, because you paid Chribba to borrow his. You've handled your bonds well and have managed to achieve a very low rate as a result. As far as I can tell, you haven't been trusted with 14B of assets in a situation where it would profit you to take them.
It's also worth noting, that when I was running a 550B collateralised (well, nearly) IPO, I managed to secure a further 300B of isk and assets through association with my larger IPO by saying exactly the kind of thing you have said here.
I'm not saying you are dishonest or cannot be trusted, I'm just saying you are not a tested alternative to Chribba, Grendell or even RAW23... yet. |
Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.08.29 11:39:33 -
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I FULLY agree
I also know of your track record, since I been playing eve for way too many years
I'm by NO means a trusted 3rd party on the scale of Chribba, Grendell or Darknesss. I'm not even a 3rd party, in the sense that I have never done so publicly. But I also do hope, that I have earned a little trust over the years.
For example when I got RAW to send his 50b to Chribba, instead of direct to me. Which would have left me with 50b uncollateralized ISK
But IF I'm ever to make the step into uncollateralized bonds. As Grendell has done in the past. Which is my plan over the coming YEARS - I will have to start building trust. I have no wish to start becoming a 3rd party. Trust is some you need to earn, and specially in a game like EVE. 3rd party work is tiring, and something I have great respect that other want to do, and does. Like Chribba, that I have gotten to know a bit
Sorry "goodlady Smith" for hijacking your thread I want to offer, that any part of your bond not covered, after those already stated - I will cover
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goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.08.29 22:13:55 -
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Hi Angelica,
Would be fantastic to have you onboard will let you know what's left once Bobby confirms the amount he's willing to invest. The hijack was fine interesting discussion overall.
Many thanks,
goodlady Smith
ps if your in touch with Chribba let him know I'm waiting with bated breath :)
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RAW23
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Posted - 2015.08.30 11:07:48 -
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Angelica Everstar wrote:For example when I got RAW to send his 50b to Chribba, instead of direct to me. Which would have left me with 50b uncollateralized ISK
Perhaps I'm being confused for someone else here but I don't recall ever being in that situation.
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Angelica Everstar
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Posted - 2015.08.30 12:50:32 -
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@goodllady smith Good hear Will pass on the msg to Chribba ... If I cant remember
@RAW23 I wish my memory was, what it used to be It was VV, and now I'm not even sure on the fine details, the only thing I could find 100% was : "If I was the type that would run from a bond, I would just have taken your 50b and run " (Source https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4603201#post4603201) Might have been he paid me 50b more than collateral value instead - hate getting old
ANYWAYS - it was not you, sorry
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Lando Antilles
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Posted - 2015.08.30 17:14:21 -
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Once the (established) 3rd party is secured and confirmed, I'm good for up to 5 bill, depending on what's left. |
goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.08.30 20:37:38 -
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Hi Lando Antilles,
Thank you for the expression of interest I will be in contact if there is any amount left.
Many thanks,
goodlady Smith
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goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.08.31 07:37:51 -
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Quick update: Have been in contact with Chribba and he has the collateral.
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.08.31 07:43:03 -
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When we have confirmation from Chribba, I'll take whatever Dextrome Thorphan leaves for me. |
Dextrome Thorphan
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Posted - 2015.08.31 07:43:20 -
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goodlady Smith wrote:Quick update: Have been in contact with Chribba and he has the collateral.
Awesome, so we wait for his reply to this thread and then send the ISK to him?
Bad Bobby wrote:When we have confirmation from Chribba, I'll take whatever Dextrome Thorphan leaves for me. The 8B is enough for me :) |
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.08.31 07:46:10 -
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Dextrome Thorphan wrote:The 8B is enough for me :) 6B for me then. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.31 08:58:57 -
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Confirming that I have received the collateral.
Awaiting full list of investors and value from Smith.
/c
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goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.08.31 09:35:12 -
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Updated to reflect investors
Dextrome Thorphan - 8B Bad Bobby - 6 B
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.08.31 09:38:13 -
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Isk sent. |
Dextrome Thorphan
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.08.31 11:30:47 -
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8B sent to Chribba |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.31 11:50:01 -
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goodlady Smith wrote:Updated to reflect investors
Dextrome Thorphan - 8B Bad Bobby - 6 B Confirming having received both payments.
/c
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.04 09:47:11 -
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There is talk of a default already, but it's all in EVE mail conversations at the moment. I'll leave goodlady Smith to explain, rather than publishing private EVE mail conversations on the forum. |
goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.09.04 09:52:37 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:There is talk of a default already, but it's all in EVE mail conversations at the moment. I'll leave goodlady Smith to explain, rather than publishing private EVE mail conversations on the forum.
Update from mail to date
I think we should be having this conversation in the forum thread.
But from my point of view, as long as the interest gets paid I don't care if you have lost the principal. That only becomes a problem if you cannot pay the interest anymore.
So take your pick, default now, default later or try to earn back the isk. If you do earn back the isk (and if this was being discussed on the public forum) then we would be more impressed than if you hadn't lost it in the first place.
Re: Loan / Bond From: Dextrome Thorphan Sent: 2015.09.04 08:30 To: Bad Bobby, goodlady Smith,
Well, you know, it was an open ended bond so I wasn't really expecting my money back any time soon heheIf you wanna try and see if you can get back on top of it that's fine by me, I think. It depends on how much you lost of course... How much did you lose exactly :) And do you think you could earn it back in less than 2 months? What do you think, Bobby? --------------------------------Re: Loan / Bond From: goodlady SmithSent: 2015.09.04 08:16 To: Dextrome Thorphan Hi Dextrome Thorphan, I'm confident that I can earn it back but I cant hand on heart promise when and I don't want to leave you out of pocket for an extended period of time. I also don't want to see any of the investors out of pocket so if you think your going to end up short let me know and I will see what I can do to remedy (may have to be over time). Again my apologizes this really is not the way I was expecting it to pan out. Many thanks, goodlady Smith
--------------------------------Re: Loan / Bond From: Dextrome ThorphanSent: 2015.09.04 08:02 To: goodlady Smith Aww, that's a shame. You have no hope of earning it back within the next few months? --------------------------------Loan / Bond From: goodlady SmithSent: 2015.09.04 07:52 To: Amarr Citizen 155, Chribba, Bad Bobby, Dextrome Thorphan Hi Folks, This was a message I was really hoping not to write.I make a really silly mistake and as a result have lost a large chunk of ISK (typed too many 0s). As a result I am:A) requesting either Chribba liquidate the isk or hand over the collateral to the investors.B) within 24 hours I will transfer 1B isk to Chribba to help cover any short falls (I don't want any ill feelings). If it helps with liquidation I'm interested in purchasing the fitted Redeemer and Paladin together for 3.25B or close to. I sincerely regret the inconvenience this will cause. Many thanks, goodlady Smith
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goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.09.04 09:55:02 -
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Also was in contact with Amarr Citizen 155 prior to my mistake offering to roll the loan / bond together
Hello Amarr Citizen 155,
I hope this finds you well.
I'm contacting you with regards to the 5 Billion Isk Loan, I would like to confirm if you would like either:
Full payment of the principle and interest on the 13th (or before) or If you would like to roll the loan into my open bond, details: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=442913&find=unread
I'm happy with either approach but am willing to offer full interest payment of the 3% on 01.10.15 if you would like to join the bond.
My incentive for this is simply less paper work advertising the extension of the bond and contracting items back and forth.
There is a couple of days to consider the options, feel free to ask me any questions.
Many thanks,
goodlady Smith
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.04 09:57:41 -
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My advice would be to take at least a day to think it all over.
You have several options and I don't personally care which one you choose. But you shouldn't be defaulting until the date the first payment is due, since the isk loan is likely to be helpful to you in the meantime and it's going to cost you the same regardless of if you default today or in a month from now. |
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