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goodlady Smith
Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy..
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Posted - 2015.09.04 10:00:51 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:My advice would be to take at least a day to think it all over.
You have several options and I don't personally care which one you choose. But you shouldn't be defaulting until the date the first payment is due, since the isk loan is likely to be helpful to you in the meantime and it's going to cost you the same regardless of if you default today or in a month from now.
Given Bad Bobby and Dextrome Thorphan are happy to keep this open will hold a couple of days to make a decision. Its been a long afternoon.
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2015.09.04 12:20:16 -
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Remember that we invest not just for our profit, but also to assist the ambitions of others.
I'm no less willing to help you now than when I made my reservation. So don't stress about me, I'm protected by the collateral anyway, focus on what is going to best for you.
I understand if you just want to say "**** it" and default.
I would applaud your pluck if you decide to forge on and make the money back. |
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research Create Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.04 14:16:40 -
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Have you tried politely asking for any sort of refund from the beneficiary of your mistake?
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.04 14:20:12 -
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Elizabeth Norn wrote:Have you tried politely asking for any sort of refund from the beneficiary of your mistake? Worth a go. But if the beneficiary is a bitter old bastard like me he'll just lick the mail to extract the tears. |
goodlady Smith
Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy..
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Posted - 2015.09.05 09:14:17 -
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Repeat of email sent to investors
Hi Folks,
Having slept on this I would like to continue the bond, however I need to negotiate some changes with you.
1. In the event that Amarr Citizen 155 selects not to transfer from the Loan to the Bond I will need to repay AC and extend the Bond by the 5B of the Loan Please confirm: A) your comfortable with the extension of the bond B) if you would like to take on Amarr Citizen 155's share if not continued.
2. To make the repayments more realistic I would like to reduce the Interest rate from 3% to 2% Please confirm your comfortable with the reduction of the interest for the bond
3. To provide time to remake the ground I lost I would like to request 2 months guaranteed investment in the Bond - i.e. through to 1 November Please confirm your comfortable with remaining with the bond.
Amarr Citizen 155 specific While I had offered to transfer the Loan into the Bond and pay the Bond interest for 1 month I'm sadly going to withdraw that offer.
I do offer: If you transfer from the loan into the bond I will make an interest payment on 01.10.15 (10/01/15 US Datetime format) for the 2 weeks between the loan ending and the first interest payment of the bond.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Many thanks,
goodlady Smith
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Dextrome Thorphan
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.09.05 09:24:25 -
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goodlady Smith wrote:1. In the event that Amarr Citizen 155 selects not to transfer from the Loan to the Bond I will need to repay AC and extend the Bond by the 5B of the Loan Please confirm: A) your comfortable with the extension of the bond B) if you would like to take on Amarr Citizen 155's share if not continued.
A) Sure, if you can provide sufficient collateral B) I could take on another 2B
goodlady Smith wrote:2. To make the repayments more realistic I would like to reduce the Interest rate from 3% to 2% Please confirm your comfortable with the reduction of the interest for the bond
Well... I prefer 3% of course lol but if you feel like that won't be a reachable goal for you, could we perhaps meet in the middle? 2.5%?
goodlady Smith wrote:3. To provide time to remake the ground I lost I would like to request 2 months guaranteed investment in the Bond - i.e. through to 1 November Please confirm your comfortable with remaining with the bond.
No problem for me
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2015.09.05 09:28:16 -
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1. (A) I have no problem with the loan increasing in size as long as the collateral can comfortably cover the total.
1. (B) I am not interested in enlarging my personal share of the loan, but I see no reason why you could not find another investor.
2. I'm willing to go down to 2% if everyone else involved agrees. Or any number between 2%-3%.
3. I have no problem investing for 2 months minimum, I generally invest in these things for as long as they run for anyway.
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goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.09.05 09:33:21 -
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Thanks for the quick response folks, do you have a ping for forum threads? Dextrome Thorphan can I twist your arm to 2%?
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Dextrome Thorphan
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.09.05 09:46:47 -
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goodlady Smith wrote:Thanks for the quick response folks, do you have a ping for forum threads? Dextrome Thorphan can I twist your arm to 2%?
Heh alright then, but then I can't invest extra ;) |
goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.09.05 10:31:09 -
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All good, will see what Amarr Citizen 155 has to say and take it from there.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2015.09.08 01:26:39 -
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Apologies for the delay. I'm fine with rolling my previous investment into this new bond AS LONG AS the interest from the previous bond is paid out as originally agreed. So 2% of 5b is paid out to me and the 5b is rolled into this investment @ 2% interest.
If the above sounds good AND there is sufficient collateral to cover the 19b I'm fine with these changes. However, if any of the above is not acceptable or there is not sufficient collateral to cover 19b then I request for my 5b investment and 2% interest from your previous loan be paid out as soon as possible. |
goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.09.08 01:43:58 -
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Amarr Citizen 155 wrote:Apologies for the delay. I'm fine with rolling my previous investment into this new bond AS LONG AS the interest from the previous bond is paid out as originally agreed. So 2% of 5b is paid out to me and the 5b is rolled into this investment @ 2% interest.
If the above sounds good AND there is sufficient collateral to cover the 19b I'm fine with these changes. However, if any of the above is not acceptable or there is not sufficient collateral to cover 19b then I request for my 5b investment and 2% interest from your previous loan be paid out as soon as possible.
Hi Amarr Citizen 155,
The loan collateral will just remain with Chribba so no change there. Interest payments will be: 2% on 5 B for full month on 13th (100Mil) 2% on 5B for 3 weeks (75Mil) - time between loan ending and first payment of Interest*.
*I had said two weeks but its a bit more then that, so bank error in your favor (or something in that vein).
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goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.09.08 01:45:10 -
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For all investors -
I'm thinking that prior to the 1st of each month I will have to revisit the value of the collateral and state what I think each Item is currently worth.
If the value goes down - I suggest making a repayment based on % invested across the board. If the value goes up - I will be able to increase the bond by the increased amount .
Change in value will only be made for adjustments of +/- 1B or more.
Thoughts?
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2015.09.08 07:03:32 -
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goodlady Smith wrote:Thoughts? Sounds good.
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Dextrome Thorphan
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.09.08 07:27:01 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:goodlady Smith wrote:Thoughts? Sounds good. All good to me |
Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2015.09.08 15:23:03 -
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Dextrome Thorphan wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:goodlady Smith wrote:Thoughts? Sounds good. All good to me Fine with me. |
goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.09.18 02:16:30 -
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Hello Investors,
Thank you for your ongoing support.
I would like to withdraw the Redeemer from the collateral pool.
I think Its worth 1.75B isk, couple of items are not coming up in Evepraisal: http://evepraisal.com/e/7447339
Can I get agreement from you all for the reduction: Amarr Citizen Dextrome Thorphan Bad Bobby
and a volunteer to either reduce their stake in the bond by 1.75B or transfer to 1.75B @ 5*% with no collateral.
Also open to suggestions.
Will pay the interest if the bond reduces at the original amount invested until the end of the month or 1/2 a month of the higher interest if that's the way someone wants to go.
*Proposing 5% for amounts with no collateral, but can negotiate.
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2015.09.18 04:06:31 -
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I'm willing to cash out 1.75B of my investment. |
goodlady Smith
Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy..
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Posted - 2015.09.18 11:20:50 -
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Cheers Bobby will send through the isk - should be within the next 24 hours
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goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.09.19 00:32:45 -
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Have transferred 1.75B is to Chribba with eve mail explaining.
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goodlady Smith
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Posted - 2015.09.20 20:12:09 -
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Chribba will make transfer as soon as he can get online. I have also been discussing a withdrawal by Dextrome - will post update shortly
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Dextrome Thorphan
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.09.20 20:52:08 -
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goodlady Smith wrote:Can wait till the end of the month and see what I can do - Prob be around 2-3B (all going well) I was thinking something along the lines of this yes, any amount you're willing to release after this month.
goodlady Smith wrote:Or you can sell all or part of your stake in the bond? If anybody here wants to take over part of my investment at the end of the month, that's fine by me too. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
1090
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Posted - 2015.09.21 04:01:03 -
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This loan doesn't seem to go for more than five minutes without changing somehow.
When I invest in a collateralised loan at a low rate like this, my intention is to forget about that money for a few months. I don't really want to deal with frequent changes that require my involvement and I don't want to have to read lots of EVE mails. The amount of effort I've had to spend on this is already far in excess of what I expect for a 2% return.
We're now dealing with someone wishing to cash out only two days after a request to reduce the loan amount. Given the amount of back and forth on this, you guys don't appear to be communicating very well.
I haven't received my 1.75B back yet. If you are going to run a revolving door loan with frequent changes like this, you are going to need to adopt a more effective way of dealing with it. In any case, since I haven't received my 1.75B yet, I have no problem with keeping that isk invested so that Dextrome Thorphan can get what he needs. |
goodlady Smith
Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy..
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Posted - 2015.09.21 04:30:40 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:This loan doesn't seem to go for more than five minutes without changing somehow.
When I invest in a collateralised loan at a low rate like this, my intention is to forget about that money for a few months. I don't really want to deal with frequent changes that require my involvement and I don't want to have to read lots of EVE mails. The amount of effort I've had to spend on this is already far in excess of what I expect for a 2% return.
We're now dealing with someone wishing to cash out only two days after a request to reduce the loan amount. Given the amount of back and forth on this, you guys don't appear to be communicating very well.
I haven't received my 1.75B back yet. If you are going to run a revolving door loan with frequent changes like this, you are going to need to adopt a more effective way of dealing with it. In any case, since I haven't received my 1.75B yet, I have no problem with keeping that isk invested so that Dextrome Thorphan can get what he needs.
Sounds like a plan, will get Chribba to transfer the ISK to Dextrome - thank you
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Dextrome Thorphan
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.09.21 07:42:10 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:We're now dealing with someone wishing to cash out only two days after a request to reduce the loan amount. Given the amount of back and forth on this, you guys don't appear to be communicating very well.
Eh you always reply so quickly... I didn't have a chance to reply to that 1.75b reduction. And that is somehow very bad of me? I don't get what you're complaining about Bobby, this doesn't even concern you. No interaction of you was required. But thanks anyway, I guess. |
Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2015.09.21 08:16:17 -
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Dextrome Thorphan wrote:Eh you always reply so quickly... I didn't have a chance to reply to that 1.75b reduction. And that is somehow very bad of me? Dextrome, I wasn't having a dig at you. My apologies if it came across that way!
Aside from that, I was only trying to be helpful. Your need is obviously greater than mine, so I've stepped aside so you can have the 1.75B instead. You would have been welcome to post after me and the same thing would have happened, but with less friction.
Dextrome Thorphan wrote:I don't get what you're complaining about Bobby, this doesn't even concern you. No interaction of you was required. But thanks anyway, I guess. Yeah, I've obviously ticked you off. My bad.
I'll ignore the undertone and take that as a genuine thankyou for passing over the 1.75B to you.
But if you think that a change in the collateral or investment for this loan doesn't concern me, you are simply wrong. Doubly so, given this loan is already teetering on the edge of default. |
Dextrome Thorphan
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.09.21 11:49:57 -
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Fair enough, I overreacted. My apologies.
I'll gladly accept the 1.75b reduction and will not require any further isk to be released early. (unless goodlady Smith needs to reduce the bond some more) |
Dextrome Thorphan
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2015.09.21 18:42:50 -
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1.75b received |
goodlady Smith
Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy..
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Posted - 2015.09.28 09:22:31 -
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Payments made for Sep
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Dextrome Thorphan
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Posted - 2015.09.28 09:59:50 -
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160mill received |
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