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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.29 11:22:17 -
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This post goes out to small weapon systems mostly
seriously the **** is up with their prices? I know it's based on drop rates and tags, I know that these tags have predefined costs as determined by type and NPC buy prices. I know that pirate weapons are identical in function for a giving race/pirate race dialogue.
What I just can't get over is how a single CN light missile launcher is 69 mil each. That's more expensive than any single hull one would be mounted on. More expensive than everything but the garmur and worm. Just wat.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
1826
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Posted - 2015.08.29 11:56:27 -
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They need balancing/tiercide... should come sometime in the unknown future
Akrasjel Lanate
Member of Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
619
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Posted - 2015.08.29 12:01:06 -
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One can only hope. I've campaigned for a rebalance around them for over 2 years. It's cheaper to fit a number of dedspace mods than it is to buy a single navy rocket launcher for example.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2015.08.29 13:44:31 -
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I would like to see deadspace weapons.
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
619
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Posted - 2015.08.29 13:51:52 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:I would like to see deadspace weapons.
I think deadspace ammo would be more appropriate.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
661
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Posted - 2015.08.29 15:44:15 -
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simple. no one can make them, they are drops right? i mean there is no BPO you can make BPCs from so it's either random BPC drop or drop from rats.
first guy is greedy so he post the first item on the market for 1B then the one after him place his for 0.01 isk less...
so it's got to the point of 60 mill.
otoh you can use T2 weapons and modules for good performance and reasonable price, don't use those expensive stuff unless you can afford to lose them.
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
620
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Posted - 2015.08.29 15:57:28 -
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Faction weapons are produced from LP stores and most of their price is derived from tags and LP. They're ridiculously overpriced.
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Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
661
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Posted - 2015.08.29 16:39:55 -
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and tags are random drops from rats correct?
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
489
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Posted - 2015.08.29 16:59:41 -
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Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:and tags are random drops from rats correct? No the tags in question are those farmed from the faction missions and looted in place of bounties from the particular rats that drop each one. Fluctuations in pricing of these tags plus the insane numbers often required by CCPs balance dept cause some LP rewards to be insanely high.
It needs to be rebalanced but its not a high priority it seems as its been this way for many years.
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voetius
Quiet Days in Clichy
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Posted - 2015.08.29 18:08:52 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:This post goes out to small weapon systems mostly
seriously the **** is up with their prices? I know it's based on drop rates and tags, I know that these tags have predefined costs as determined by type and NPC buy prices. I know that pirate weapons are identical in function for a giving race/pirate race dialogue.
What I just can't get over is how a single CN light missile launcher is 69 mil each. That's more expensive than any single hull one would be mounted on. More expensive than everything but the garmur and worm. Just wat.
Well you pretty much nailed the reason there. I've posted in threads in F&I that are relevant that the NPC buy orders for navy insignias set a floor to the price of the navy guns, modules, launchers etc that effectively means they cannot compete on price with deadspace.
My suggested solution (though I try to stay open-minded about it) is to remove NPC buy orders completely, or if CCP think that is too much, lower the tag requirements or increase the droprate in faction missions - of these the simplest to implement are to remove NPC buy orders or increase droprates. |
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1514
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Posted - 2015.08.30 02:19:29 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:They need balancing/tiercide... should come sometime in the unknown future LML already got tiericided
and as far as faction weapons go LML are probably the most viable as they can be used for burner missions. T2 launcher's advantage is for fury missiles, which don't really work in burner missions, plus in burner missions you can make so much isk 60m or so for a LML isn't really all that much.
tag requirements on most LP store items are a bit insane though.
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