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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Northern Coalition.
1808
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Posted - 2015.09.18 21:09:15 -
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you don't seem to have understood evernus well. the IGB support is worth the creators weight in gold alone.
the only thing a gdocs could do better is give me a price comparison for jita - $randomstation
but i actually don't need that information. the stuff i want to sell is either not available or already nicely priced. i have yet to find a single item that is not worth importing (when ignoring temporary jita spikes) |
Zad Murrard
Vicis Inter Astrum
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Posted - 2015.09.20 18:54:08 -
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There are many things gdocs can provide, one has to use a bit of imagination + dreaming and ask
What information ideally would I like to know if everything was possible? Hint, there's much much more than price difference of item in X vs Y station.
What decisions I make daily when coming to the conclusion on what I should do? Based on which factors I make those decisions? What if I could get those decisions automatically done for me?
And so on.
Even after several years one still gets new ideas which either a) increase profit/profit potential b) decrease the time needed for this activity
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Northern Coalition.
1809
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Posted - 2015.09.23 22:16:58 -
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Quote:There are many things gdocs can provide, one has to use a bit of imagination + dreaming
What information ideally would I like to know if everything was possible? There's much much more than price difference of item in X vs Y station that is useful for seeding.
i mostly want to know about popular items. i get them via killboards or evernus
Quote: What decisions I make daily when coming to the conclusion on what I should do? Based on which factors I make those decisions? What if I could get those decisions automatically done for me?
i'd rather have information to base my own decisions on. a whole bunch of tools give you misleading information. making my own decisions keeps my brain well lubricated and has saved me from a couple of bad investments so far.
Quote:Is it really worth my time to log character ABC? If one needs to go through several orders or buy/sales history to figure out if the answer is yes or no, it's already wasted time => Can be done faster with spreadsheets.
or via evernus. because that's a feature of the program :)
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Northern Coalition.
1809
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Posted - 2015.09.23 22:38:03 -
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Update:
Station A:
I have decided to not invest much more in station A. I'll focus on a small selection of items that sold well in the past. Orders for other stuff that hasn't sold at all will run out and then be send to station B. I'll also try and find a couple of other similar stations to seed the small selection at.
Station B:
I have hit 5b in sell orders. Not bad considering i hit 4b just 10 days ago and only logged in twice since then. I'm at 190 Sell orders now and started skilling another alt on that account towards trading. So far, it's not dual training. I just paused training indu stuff on the main char for now. I can definitely make more money from trading than i could from being able to invent everything.
I'm also slowly approaching the point where it gets hard to come up with new ideas of what to sell. I know i want to put ammo and ships on the market, but i haven't really invested much there yet. I'll try and find another 80 modules to sell and will then focus on ships and ammo once the next alt has aquired the skills for a considerable amount of sell orders.
Researching and selling BPOs is another venture of mine, but i won't sell the next batch of ship BPOs that come out of the oven. Instead, i'll ship them over to be able to produce on site. Mainly because so many small hulls have pretty extreme negative compression rates.
Producing won't be as profitable as the stuff i'm currently making, but it's going to save me considerable amounts of time and/or shipping cost.
I also don't have my lines active 24/7 anymore because my alliance disbanded and i had to pay back some of my investors. |
goodlady Smith
Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy..
45
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Posted - 2015.09.24 00:18:50 -
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In terms of growing the market I assume the HS is feeding something that you can trace i.e. a LS group, maybe take a look at zkill and try and determine whats being flown and lost and then provide package deals?
I.e. if its LS FW tristons with nuets and drone damage seem to fit about 80% of the peoples needs - sell it for local cost +20% with the rigs unfit - tristans just an example i would do a slightly more expensive ship to make the margin worth while (and don't sell FW players hulls they can get for LP)
As long as you don't damage your market sales its a fun way to use your contracts spaces. If you can find a couple of corps in that area that are popping regularly you could contact them to provide their fits for a 'fair' price hauled to home systems
Please like my posts it makes me feel better about the time I spend on the forums
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Northern Coalition.
1809
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Posted - 2015.09.24 00:33:16 -
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contracts would be way to annoying to set up.
i prefer to keep things in the market window. and yeah, i'm definitely seeding fits for tristans :)
i already keep eyes on my customers to offer them some deals later, but that's another thing that sounds like way to much effort for me :P
i want to keep this as low maintenance as possible |
Van Ishez
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.09.26 11:11:39 -
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My 2-3 cents
There are two strategies that come to mind either
- Try to provide a complete service, ie. ships and their normal fits or - Maximize profit and do not even try to offer complete solutions
Some things I've noticed invaluable
- Re-evaluate the items you are trading once in a while - Adjust the amount of items in sell order per each market, markets fluctuate, it is very risky to have big sell orders
Personally using Excel for trading, the problem I have with ready made programs is that you cannot easily modify them. If you want something they don't provide it's a dead end. |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Northern Coalition.
1821
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Posted - 2015.10.03 19:18:13 -
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Update:
Station A:
Some small changes for Station A, i have identified some items in Station B that were selling much better than expected there, so i also put them up at Station A, with good results so far. I also think i have identified why things are moving so slow. The local lowsec is active, but it seems like most people stage from the region next door that has a very well seeded lowsec station close to the border. Lesson learned i guess.
I also have a pretty good basket of items nailed down that i want to start seeding in more than just one station per region. I'll try and identify some good stations for that once i stop being lazy
Station B:
Average profit/day has been 40m over the last week. That's pretty damn good compared to the work i actually put in here (no more than 30 minutes since my last posting)
Sadly, i lost a bit of money due to my own stupidity, but at least i made the guy who recently bought several hunded very cheap mining crystals very happy. Luckily it's never been easier to bring the "do you really want to sell your stuff extremely underpriced" warning back to life.
Some dude also discovered my most profitable item and decided to ruin it by putting up a massively oversized order at a price that is way to close to the one in jita for my liking. I wonder if i should just buy him out or not.
I also identified the first items that i won't reseed once my orders are running out. Not because they aren't profitable or don't sell, but because i think others are going to make me more. Most of them are cheap T1 stuff anyway. And some other items already make more money per sale than these ones make per week.
Station C:
Station C is going to be a mirror of Station B. It's another microhub in another region that i started seeding on another character. So far, i only have 25 or so orders available on that one, so i'll just test the waters for now. I need to know more about my competition there before going in big. The place seems to be highly frequented, but not seeded broadly. Station B is nearly complete for modules, rigs, ammo and hulls. Station C has no meta 4 items, few rigs and even fewer ships available. It has other perks though, such as several Ice belts really close and a few good agents in the area. It also doesn't have skillbooks available within quite a few jumps, which opens yet another business opportunity.
The first Test is looking really good for sales. I actually sold more small drones here over the last two days than i sold in Station B over the last week. Time will tell if that's sustainable. The local lowsec is also not as popular which worries me a bit. A lot of my sales in Station B are quickly turned into lossmails or killmails. My jita indu stuff very likely did the same, but i have rarely ever seen it (except when wheniaminstation bought everything pizza needed to fuel their war machine from me)
Meta:
I wonder if it's a good idea to sell items that are in direct competition with other items i'm selling. An example would be cap boosters. I really want people to buy my navy cap boosters. But will they pick navy ones over normal ones if the normal ones aren't available? or will they fly 5 jumps to pick the normal ones up from another place? I guess i'll make a few tests there over the next weeks. |
Bootneck
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2015.10.03 21:42:34 -
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You know there is half a dozen stations around lonetrek with l3/l4 agents and you cant even buy a shuttle there let alone ammo or fittings. You have to go for jita for everything, you can't even buy a noob ship ffs!
You could do a reasonable trade just selling normal consumables to mission runners around those systems, i'd happily pay over the market price just to avoid going to jita.
When people say EVE is dying, they aren't joking. Looking at how empty former busy trade stations are CCP are going to have to start reseeding nPC sell orders soon.
There's no school like the old school and I've been expelled.
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Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Northern Coalition.
1822
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Posted - 2015.10.04 01:36:10 -
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if you have a specific place in mind, send me a PN with what you need and i'll have orders up soon(tm) :) |
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Fat Buddah
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2015.10.29 07:03:41 -
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Our corp is about to do something similar so your post and the updates are quite interesting. Even encouraging. Thank you for sharing your story. |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Northern Coalition.
1847
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Posted - 2015.11.08 05:41:42 -
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It's been a while, but here comes another update:
Things are going great. I switched characters around a bit which cost me a non-insignificant amount of broker tax, but made my life a bit easier by requiring less traveling around for other things.
Station A:
This one has basically turned into Region A. Things are behaving like i expected. I have a basket of ~25 items that i'm selling in one station per Constellation. I'm suffering a bit here from not being able to update my orders from one central place, but training will fix that sooner than later. Approximately 10-20% of my orders are undercut after about 24 hours.
I'm now finishing Wholesale V on the character, the additional orders from Tycoon will be used to seed the last constellation and to fill some holes i found in the local minihub. Turns out there are a few surprisingly popular items that are surprisingly hard to find in many places. Let's just say that people love to pimp ships that don't die very often.
Jita Price of Items on the market: ~3b ISK Active Tradeorders: ~125 Sellorders priced at: ~5 Profit in the last 30 days: 700m. (not representative, added new orders over the course of the month)
Station B remains a steady moneymaker. I have hit my orderlimit on this Tycoon IV character and started training another one to seed more things. I'm also learning more and more about my competition. The guys don't really care about items. They update some orders, but only once every 2-3 weeks. But they do care about ships which they update every friday in RUtz. Good thing i'm online in EUtz on these days :D
Jita Price of items on the market: ~6b ISK Active Tradeorders: ~270 Sellorders priced at: 9.5b Profit in the last 30 days: 2b ISK
Station C will be abandoned for now. Even though things sell better than Station B. However, competition is waaay to active in UStz. They'll basically undercut my orders at around midnight every day, which is approximately one hour after my usual bedtime during the week.
I haven't been able to scout for an alternative yet, but will do so asap.
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