Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.09.05 02:03:39 -
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The assault ships you listed aren't anti-support. A RLML sac is not flying around with Nomen's, BS, or anything really. A deimos is not functioning as anti-support. Even a rail deimos is not desired for anti-support. An eagle is not anti-support. An ishtar with heavies, is most definitely not anti-support. Zealot maybe, but highly unlikely.
I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to prove here. You're just showing a bunch of HAC's shooting things. On top of that, you have things like blaster eagles, which is not a medium engagement ship. You are blurring the lines, and trying to say all these ships do the vaga's, or in this case AC's role. They do not. A blaster eagle intends to fight only in scram range. A blaster deimos is not out kiting at 24km. RLML sac's do not have the speed to kite anything, except maybe an eagle. By saying all these ships do the same role, and then comparing a/c's in that way, it gives the impression a/c's are doing ok. This is a false impression by including all these ships, and weapons that don't match the role.
I'll provide some of my own graphs. All ships are unfit, except their guns. The slicer does have 3 locus rigs, as thats the norm.
Anti-Support Assault Ships
I've included ships that might be considering for anti-support, or flexible enough to kill frigs, and kite out cruisers and other large ships to mitigate damage. Especially in small gang environments. All ships are fit with their large calibre short range weapon system with long range ammo (again, we're kiting here, not brawling, and the dps of the vaga will drop even more at point range with short range ammo). No, 425's are not normally used a vaga, its mainly to show it under the best of conditions, that it still sucks.
This is to say, the ROLE the vaga is doing, is out-done by most other HAC's, as they can provide the same support, tank, and have more flexability with larger ships. They don't lose 50% of their damage at point range.
They're shooting a CBC, and no other weapon system except AC's lose damage against a larger target at their intended engagement range. This has relegated kiting AC's to anti-frigate, which as i'm about to show you, can be done with much cheaper ships.
Anti-Support T1 - Cheaper, better, faster and all of the above
Now these are ships considerably cheaper than a vagabond that can perform the same role, but not lose damage against bigger targets at range, and still apply well to smaller targets. An EWAR ship applies better damage at point range than a 425 vagabond with barrage.
Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role
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