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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:39:29 -
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I can see where they are coming from. What is presented and what is actually experienced are quite disconnexted. I feel the same. Even the dominion trailer was supposed to sample large alliance but I did not see station games and more than one ship at a time was being shot at.....
Even the visuals.... I used advanced camera options to change the visuals in eve. Most only see brackets. I see...
http://i.imgur.com/1Uv8td1.png
Why isnt this the default camera viewing and a hud that centres around this style?
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
234
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:40:56 -
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Verstal wrote: All are very excited but as soon as they find out about the training time they get discouraged then they see the subscriptions fees most are great gamers do the calculations and just go this isn't worth my time or effort or money. They actually get angry at CCP saying things like, "what a scam or rip off."
...they are ready to spend money, and are excited about being in a space MMO.
Bad troll is bad. Your "friends" are ready to spend money on the game, but object to $15 a month (or less) for a subscription, and think it's a scam? Have they never played a subscription based MMO before?
Verstal wrote: I have had a few days to think about this based on the feedback from my gaming group as they love to talk about this on vent and I know this would be a radical departure from the game it is today, but they would be willing to buy ships and skins for real money if they could keep them.
This game isn't for your friends, apparently. There are a couple other space games out there where you can buy your ships with IRL money and not worry about losing them, like Star Trek Online. Stop trying to turn EVE into something it's not. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1375
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:41:44 -
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Verstal wrote:
I spent hours a day with each of them or groups of them answering every question, and I enjoyed going through the basic content with them and seeing it through their new to the game eyes, but nothing I can do can give them the experience of the CCP movie at the rate they want to see it.
But F2P if not actually meant as P2W will not help to overcome the impatience of your friends ... EvE is a complex game with a lot of freedom for the players, and most of the content (especially the one shown in the video) is organized and created by other players. So you need to find the right group to do the fun stuff with (btw, the names of the groups and players are mentioned in the trailer). If you just sit there and wait that the fun comes to you, EvE certainly will suck.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Verstal
Incredibuilders United
17
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:48:12 -
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Romvex wrote:From what I'm reading it seems you want Eve to be free to play so your friends who play CoD and LoL can play with you without crying because the trailers have more action then they'll see for a while in the game.
People have high expectations these days the expectation that CCP movie creates is hard for most people to find on their own, but these are people that spend money on games every day of the week.
So taking a hardline stance that they arent worth the trouble is something I felt myself for years.
I am older softened my stance on this and am trying to figure out a way to keep people logging in and training so that they might give it another shot in a few months and not just remove the game from their computer.
Funny you mention CoD and LoL some of these people work on those games for a living, so the last thing they want is to play something like them in fact the biggest draw for me personally is it has nothing to do with CoD. I wonder why that is? :-)
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Mag's
the united
20185
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Posted - 2015.09.06 17:51:27 -
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Verstal wrote:I am not new 8 years in same corp. Yet here you are, still ignorant of how Eve and the Plex works, after all those years.
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WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
411
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Posted - 2015.09.06 18:29:16 -
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OP you're ignoring the most important fact about EVE. It's not a casual game, it's a hobby. It's a hobby for adults who like risk and reward, and also internet spaceships. It's sort of the last great MMO, not yet turned into a theme park.
The thing with free to play games is you get in, get your quick fix and get out. Kinda like sex without foreplay. Great to satisfy your itch, but some crave more. And the answer is EVE.
Furthermore, EVE isn't a game focused on gameplay as much as social interaction. You value the people you meet more than the amount of SP in your head. I would have equally as fun in a Rifter as I would in a Naglfar if I was flying with the right group of people.
So if they're not interested in joining a group and forming new friendships and they just care about their rank and K/D ratio then EVE isn't for them.
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Verstal
Incredibuilders United
17
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Posted - 2015.09.06 18:40:32 -
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Mag's wrote:Verstal wrote:I am not new 8 years in same corp. Yet here you are, still ignorant of how Eve and the Plex works, after all those years.
When I started we had no Plex, I thought it was a mistake at the time to introduce them, but changed that stance after I realized that I could stop paying my subs since had enough isk do what I wanted in the game and not give CCP money but as a game developer myself I thought it was a short cut to increase profits for CCP.
My expectation for CCP is that they would use this influx of cash to increase the quality of the content following the same pattern they had which was updating the visuals based on video card performance capabilities.
They showed me the Walking in Station demo on a laptop 10 years ago at GDC, I went on a white board and explained to them how the speed of light at which information travels would prevent them from creating the system they had shown me at the time, and some possible ways around it.
All the ways would be a fundamental change to the core structure of Eve and we all agreed that it would be a terrible path to follow, but they continued to invest in what they renamed Ambulation for years.
Most of the money from initial burst of Plex cash went into buying White Wolf and starting the Vampire team not Eve.
I then again met more CCP in Shanghai went drinking with them had a few lunches we mostly talked about DUST before it was released since I am considered an expert on that genre, COD, Quake Series, Medal Honor etc.
Now we seem to be at state where CCP has slowly nerfed income generation for a certain percentage of he population and those people are choosing to leave the game instead of paying for it.
Could be good new players getting to experience the same content with fresh eyes, ah we come full circle my recent experience newer players not wanting to work that hard for what they are seeing in trailer. This is why I asked the question about Free To Play. Many of your ideas are inspiring.
Regardless of my personal history with CCP I love Eve for what it is but finding it hard to keep good gamers interested in it long enough to invest in it, by designing a free to play model that doesn't destroy what veteran players love about the game could be time well spent for CCP to survive the next 10 years.
No easy task, but I am thinking about it, and writing down a design for them for free before i get dragged into another life consuming development cycle.
Current CCP trend is VR headsets and breaking parts off the game to create to products like Valkyrie which use the same models in the Unreal 3 or 4 engine but give the player a different experience, and offer CCP new revenue steam.
These new streams could be used to support Eve and continue to increase the fidelity of the Eve Universe but again they might use this cash to take to break more of Eve into other smaller products hoping one hits it big.
The UI direction is an indicator that CCP have plans to put Eve on touch screen devices so that you can play it from an iPad and or other tablet device. I am sure this possible to do this already.
The content delivery method mentioned in the Fan fest video of content on demand would indicate that this in fact a way to deliver content to smaller devices. By putting development resources in this direction it seems that CCP is moving away from the standard PC as a hardware platform.
Predicted next marketing message, You can Take Eve Everywhere! or New Eden in the palm of your hand!
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Malt Zedong
WorldTradersGuild.Com
42
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Posted - 2015.09.06 19:15:14 -
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Verstal wrote:Last few days since returning I have been getting friends to join me from other games.
All are very excited but as soon as they find out about the training time they get discouraged then they see the subscriptions fees most are great gamers do the calculations and just go this isn't worth my time or effort or money. They actually get angry at CCP saying things like, "what a scam or rip off." I try to warn them before they download it that it is a very different game but the reality doesn't hit them til they start actually playing.
Then I am left with people that are "I will afk train for my trial account and if I dont see anything I like in a few weeks after training I will not play it."
So I have been trying to think of a way for CCP to keep these people, they are good gamers, they are ready to spend money, and are excited about being in a space MMO.
I tell them they could buy characters with isk for plex's most don't want this they want to create a character they feel they started and own, named etc.
Has CCP talked about this at any point as a possibility? If so can I get a link.
I usually dont brag but that one asked for it.
I am not one of the most prolific jack of all trades in eve and I have been plexing at least 4 accounts since I stopped paying for EVE it has been a little over 4 years. Trade, Salvage, Hauling, and I dont even mission run besides standing distro mish here and there. Occasionally I get my more skilled chars into the bazaar.
You also can play EVE for free as plex do not in practical terms is your ability to play, but your ability to retain skillpoints for more than 30 days or to train certain skills.
EVE is a so deep sandbox that if you want it to be free to play, you can make it yourself.
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Verstal
Incredibuilders United
17
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Posted - 2015.09.06 19:32:16 -
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WASPY69 wrote:OP you're ignoring the most important fact about EVE. It's not a casual game, it's a hobby. It's a hobby for adults who like risk and reward, and also internet spaceships. It's sort of the last great MMO, not yet turned into a theme park.
The thing with free to play games is you get in, get your quick fix and get out. Kinda like sex without foreplay. Great to satisfy your itch, but some crave more. And the answer is EVE.
Furthermore, EVE isn't a game focused on gameplay as much as social interaction. You value the people you meet more than the amount of SP in your head. I would have equally as fun in a Rifter as I would in a Naglfar if I was flying with the right group of people.
So if they're not interested in joining a group and forming new friendships and they just care about their rank and K/D ratio then EVE isn't for them.
Good points!
I guess it is a question of survival if CCP can survive while creating new products based on Eve to expand the type of customer and amount of customers revenue using New Eden as a test bed for this content they might be fine if one of these new products hit.
Risk is that if they build and invest in content away from the core Eve player or make game play changes that turn off the dedicated hardcore customer and do not have enough new players to replace that revenue stream and if these new players are dedicated enough to stay with the product to invest in it.
This has always been the risk and they have had a few minor stumbles but as far as batting average CCP does a great job of creating content that its customers love.
Just as a side note: As long as they keep making new ships they are safe with me, I love new ships, training for them, fitting them, testing them, that alone is enough to keep me happy, but I am old paper and pen Battletech, StarFleetBattles, Champions gamer, also grew up on Elite from the Apple II these are the reasons I fell in love with Eve to begin with but I am the minority of worldwide gamers, like you.
Hobby point is fine if you have the time to make it your hobby its a very narrow part of the gaming population that can afford the time requirement you mention they have enough time to play a few hours a night and go back to RL.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
13815
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Posted - 2015.09.06 20:32:17 -
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Val'Dore wrote:The people who will multibox already multibox. Oh heck no, no way, face reality on that one. Most people would suddenly have suicide ganker alts scattered throughout highsec. No effort suicide ganker alts swarming all areas of the game, ready at a moments notice within a few gates.
The way it is now, when the month is up, those alts become unusable. But make this game f2p and you will have swarms of deadly suicide gankers coming at you every day until you either join them or quit.
And what is CCP going to do about it, remove PvP? This game would turn into friggen My Little Pony Online!
This thread is one of the most irrational topics that keep popping up every other month until locked. And I recall a video where CCP said they could never do it, not unless EVE was designed that way from the start, so really it's just a troll thread topic. F2P is impossible for EVE, period.
I'm in it for the money
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Malt Zedong
WorldTradersGuild.Com
42
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Posted - 2015.09.06 20:36:46 -
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Webvan wrote:Val'Dore wrote:The people who will multibox already multibox. Oh heck no, no way, face reality on that one. Most people would suddenly have suicide ganker alts scattered throughout highsec. No effort suicide ganker alts swarming all areas of the game, ready at a moments notice within a few gates. The way it is now, when the month is up, those alts become unusable. But make this game f2p and you will have swarms of deadly suicide gankers coming at you every day until you either join them or quit. And what is CCP going to do about it, remove PvP? This game would turn into friggen My Little Pony Online! This thread is one of the most irrational topics that keep popping up every other month until locked. And I recall a video where CCP said they could never do it, not unless EVE was designed that way from the start, so really it's just a troll thread topic. F2P is impossible for EVE, period.
You can easly use the buddy program to get an alt to provide a double plex for you. You get one account, and instead of plexing that account, you plex a buddy one and get 30 days for both. It doesnt matter if you paying in IRL money or ISK. You have 60 days which from the spoils of ganking and general mobbing, you can fund easly a group of people with dozens of alts, without even paying IRL money.
The base problem there is just that in EVE the crime does pay, much more than not doing it.
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2139
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Posted - 2015.09.06 20:44:54 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Funny. When I came to EVE after playing games like EverQuest and Earth & Beyond my response was 'Wait, you mean I don't have to drop sixty bucks for the game, and then thirty every six months on expansions in ADDITION to the monthly fee?!? NEAT!' The game and content updates are already free, so the monthly subscriptions are a more than reasonable cost to play.
In order for the game to survive as 'free to play', it will become 'pay to win'. Which will kill it.
I'd recommend your friends stop trying to negotiate for more and either take or leave what's offered. Agreed . Considering that and the fact that really per hour EvE works out to be cheap entertainment, EvE is far from being a scam / ripoff.
ITT: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
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Sovox
Eve Defence Force The Kadeshi
0
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Posted - 2015.09.06 20:56:08 -
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CCP's pay model is fine the way it is, even a casual player with one account can eventually plex it every month with little effort. Just my opinion : EVE even its current state (Fozzie Sov) of being broken that ends up making a huge number of ships irrelevant, EVE is still the best game on the market and has been for many years I do not see any reason for CCP give it away for free when the plex can give you the option to play for free. I wish more games followed the CCP model tbh. |
The VC's
The Scope Gallente Federation
171
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Posted - 2015.09.06 20:57:08 -
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This is always going to be the case until there are many other true sandbox games on the market. Players of other games will have trouble notionally understanding Eve as there is no precedent. It's unique.
Coming to Eve, everything you ever thought you knew about gaming isn't of much use.
Like a previous poster said, it's more of a hobby.
ed. It also has an older crowd, with jobs and stuff. Three hours U.K. minimum wage and you have your sub payed for and a billion isk to blow. Don't get me started on those unemployed nullbear shut-ins who brag about all the isk they make to plex when they've put 30-50 hours in to do it. You can work a real job for 1.5 hrs and get the same.
Get a job. You might have more time to get a girlfriend too. |
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
13815
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Posted - 2015.09.06 20:59:33 -
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Malt Zedong wrote:
You can easly use the buddy program to get an alt to provide a double plex for you. You get one account, and instead of plexing that account, you plex a buddy one and get 30 days for both. It doesnt matter if you paying in IRL money or ISK. You have 60 days which from the spoils of ganking and general mobbing, you can fund easly a group of people with dozens of alts, without even paying IRL money.
The base problem there is just that in EVE the crime does pay, much more than not doing it.
It would be a whole lot worse. I could stake out say 10 systems reasonably, station a few suicide ganker alts in each system, then multi-box them in at a moments notice. I could have those alts there for years, pulling them out on my whim, fully trained for what they can do. That's a lot of effort as it is now, unless you have unlimited ISK or unlimited money, which no one does. And that's just casual ganking with say ~30 accounts, the hardcore ganker would likely have 100's of accounts covering regions as they roam.
I'm in it for the money
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Schmantoo
I Really Hate You Guys
3
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Posted - 2015.09.06 21:03:16 -
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Webvan wrote:EVE is not the game for them.
Eve is not the game for most people looking at the login numbers. CCP can either try something different, or ride it strait into the ground.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
1008
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Posted - 2015.09.06 21:29:04 -
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Webvan wrote:Val'Dore wrote:The people who will multibox already multibox. Oh heck no, no way, face reality on that one. Most people would suddenly have suicide ganker alts scattered throughout highsec. No effort suicide ganker alts swarming all areas of the game, ready at a moments notice within a few gates. The way it is now, when the month is up, those alts become unusable. But make this game f2p and you will have swarms of deadly suicide gankers coming at you every day until you either join them or quit. And what is CCP going to do about it, remove PvP? This game would turn into friggen My Little Pony Online! This thread is one of the most irrational topics that keep popping up every other month until locked. And I recall a video where CCP said they could never do it, not unless EVE was designed that way from the start, so really it's just a troll thread topic. F2P is impossible for EVE, period.
That is certainly a consideration.
Trial accounts can't use T2 ships or weapons, no T3 ships, no capital ships, no jump clones, no mining barges, no freighters, no cynos, and no cloaks. As well as a lot of other skills they aren't able to use. They can't even have AWU.
If ganker seeding is your worry, maybe that is more a personal problem than an actual problem.
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beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
189
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Posted - 2015.09.06 21:44:20 -
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A few microtransaction ideas to help the OP's suggestion along:
- hats
- the obligatory gold Raven
- entosis links run on Aurum
- Concord protection goes to the highest bidder
- rename yourself or others with PLEX
- hats
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Verstal
Incredibuilders United
17
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Posted - 2015.09.06 21:54:12 -
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beakerax wrote:A few microtransaction ideas to help the OP's suggestion along:
- hats
- the obligatory gold Raven
- entosis links run on Aurum
- Concord protection goes to the highest bidder
- rename yourself or others with PLEX
- hats
I know you are making a joke and I did laugh but you did hit on something.
I think renaming your own characters is a great idea this concept used by other companies people pay 5 dollars for it
Also add to that clearing corp history, so that if did invest you could have a clean history and name you wanted.
This could also be used by spies, which is good for them, they pay to be better spies or of they have really clean history you might suspect them more then a normal person. Anyway it would add game play for a small amount of money. |
WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
413
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Posted - 2015.09.06 22:29:37 -
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Verstal wrote:I think renaming your own characters is a great idea this concept used by other companies people pay 5 dollars for it
Also add to that clearing corp history, so that if did invest you could have a clean history and name you wanted.
This would conflict with what EVE is all about though. Remember the butterfly effect trailer? Everyone helps shape the history and events of New Eden, sometimes unknowingly. The decisions you make in EVE will ripple one way or another. And that's one of the reasons we all love EVE so much. Actions have consequences. No "contained" gameplay or safe areas, be who you want to be, be it a lone wolf, a pirate, a great leader etc.. People will (hopefully) remember your name for good or bad.
If you're desperate and have really ruined your name and corp history you can always start fresh and create a new account. Then pray no one recognizes your voice on comms etc.
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Verstal
Incredibuilders United
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Posted - 2015.09.07 00:34:41 -
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WASPY69 wrote:Verstal wrote:I think renaming your own characters is a great idea this concept used by other companies people pay 5 dollars for it
Also add to that clearing corp history, so that if did invest you could have a clean history and name you wanted. This would conflict with what EVE is all about though. Remember the butterfly effect trailer? Everyone helps shape the history and events of New Eden, sometimes unknowingly. The decisions you make in EVE will ripple one way or another. And that's one of the reasons we all love EVE so much. Actions have consequences. No "contained" gameplay or safe areas, be who you want to be, be it a lone wolf, a pirate, a great leader etc.. People will (hopefully) remember your name for good or bad. If you're desperate and have really ruined your name and corp history you can always start fresh and create a new account. Then pray no one recognizes your voice on comms etc.
The butterfly effect video you are talking is about 6 year old and another CCP hype video not quite based on reality because the chances of a player having that exact experience in under 3 months are about a billion to one.
If you watch this years fan fest they spent special time to talk about the hype video creation issue they have had and why they used real players for this latest video a video that has more views then any they have created before.
Now people have seen this latest video have interest in the game, want that experience. Maybe the rookie missions could end with an NPC titan with large NPC fleet around you as the player a large event they take part in. You know a scripted Death star moment. For a pay off. Good idea ty!
All missions should have a scripted ending which extends the eve fiction so they can do one mission an evening and get a larger and larger pay off if they want to focus on that aspect of the game, dam I would do all the missions again and all the races again to get this pay off. And all the content and scripting system has been created to do this work. Ty sir!
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WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2015.09.07 01:43:01 -
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Verstal wrote:The butterfly effect video you are talking is about 6 year old and another CCP hype video not quite based on reality because the chances of a player having that exact experience in under 3 months are about a billion to one.
If you watch this years fan fest they spent special time to talk about the hype video creation issue they have had and why they used real players for this latest video a video that has more views then any they have created before.
Now people have seen this latest video have interest in the game, want that experience. Maybe the rookie missions could end with an NPC titan with large NPC fleet around you as the player a large event they take part in. You know a scripted Death star moment. For a pay off. Good idea ty!
All missions should have a scripted ending which extends the eve fiction so they can do one mission an evening and get a larger and larger pay off if they want to focus on that aspect of the game, dam I would do all the missions again and all the races again to get this pay off. And all the content and scripting system has been created to do this work. Ty sir!
The rookie event is actually a pretty cool idea. Perhaps send them on a scripted story arch that ends with two great powers having a slug fest or something and you can decide to either be a spai, FC, F1 pusher, or logistics/industry etc...
I see where you're coming from though, that the old EVE initiation of "Welcome to EVE! Here's a spaceship! **** you!" is still very much there. I guess that's the way of a true sandbox game. Today's generation expects near instant rewards, and the old-school model of working towards something and figuring out things without being hand held is pretty much obsolete. Sad but true.
I think the NPE is the most important focus CCP has, and imo it needs to put more emphasis on joining a corporation. Not sure what the best approach would be, but somehow make newbies join bigger, established ones. It makes me so sad when i see newbies join small "Do a little bit of everything, with a CEO that's afk" kinda "new player friendly" corps, and then quit after a week because they get bored, or get wardecced and drop to an NPC corp and spend the rest of their EVE days mining or running missions in high sec..
TL;DR I really hope CCP improves the NPE a lot more.
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.09.07 01:49:58 -
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Val'Dore wrote:If ganker seeding is your worry, maybe that is more a personal problem than an actual problem. Hah that's a good one, sidestep the obvious logic and make it some personal issue.
I have no issues say with CODE. or Goons etc. blap away! But I do have a personal issue with turning my game into a trash f2p and the hoards of 12yo suicide gankers that will invade. Anyone in their right mind would have an issue with that.
I'm in it for the money
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
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Posted - 2015.09.07 04:35:01 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:
If only all newbies had 3+ years of in game knowledge when they started. Then they would be able to do just like you.
The ones mentioned by the OP had an 8 year old player to guide them.
And players who start with no friends have google and youtube.
But I guess people are too lazy. And they start in NPC corps, where they have a lot of people telling them they can't do anything except mine and mission as a noob.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25972
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Posted - 2015.09.07 05:54:37 -
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Schmantoo wrote:Eve is not the game for most people looking at the login numbers. CCP can either try something different, or ride it strait into the ground. They are trying something different. In fact, they're trying many different things GÇö EVE is just not one of them. That's probably for the best since, if you have a secure income stream, making it insecure before you've fully managed to diversify isn't the smartest of moves.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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May Arethusa
SessionChange
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Posted - 2015.09.07 06:29:12 -
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Quote:jump on to Eve and try to remember where all the buttons are
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Pryce Caesar
Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans
13
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Posted - 2015.09.07 06:39:00 -
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The VC's wrote:This is always going to be the case until there are many other true sandbox games on the market. Players of other games will have trouble notionally understanding Eve as there is no precedent. It's unique.
Coming to Eve, everything you ever thought you knew about gaming isn't of much use.
Like a previous poster said, it's more of a hobby.
ed. It also has an older crowd, with jobs and stuff. Three hours U.K. minimum wage and you have your sub payed for and a billion isk to blow. Don't get me started on those unemployed nullbear shut-ins who brag about all the isk they make to plex when they've put 30-50 hours in to do it. You can work a real job for 1.5 hrs and get the same.
Get a job. You might have more time to get a girlfriend too.
Some of us either do not have or do not want that kind of luxury involved in the game. I find it would be more satisfying to earn the ISK in-game in order to be able to buy PLEX and extend your game time.
As for us "nullbear shut-ins", you probably should take about 20-40 hours off of your projections, since I've heard that the high-experienced Null-Sec players with the proper skills can rake in 100 million ISK/hour off of anomalies alone (or hit the jackpot, like I once did. )
Essentially, one just has to set some time aside throughout the week, and they can rake in the amount of ISK necessary to buy PLEX easy (if only it wasn't so expensive. ) |
Josef Djugashvilis
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Posted - 2015.09.07 06:40:44 -
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Yes, for the short time it would take CPP to go broke.
This is not a signature.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
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Posted - 2015.09.07 07:05:54 -
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Val'Dore wrote:If ganker seeding is your worry, maybe that is more a personal problem than an actual problem. Know this:
If EVE ever becomes free to play, you opened a box for us that you should have left closed. Even the Skiffs will burn if a fleet of rookie ships descends on them and blasts them into oblivion. More ganker chars means cheaper ganks and more damage output. Also 15min timer? no more! I just login another fleet of alts!
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.07 08:00:56 -
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Rewards, success, achievements ... what is it worth to win against stupid NPCs or solve scripted events (if not for cash only)? The NPE instead needs to more involve player organizations, e.g. have a prominent opportunity to join one of the NPSI fleets and score a kill with at least 5 other people on the killmail.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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