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Alina Wize
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:14:00 -
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You're all assuming we're getting all of this phat lewtz that CCP is dropping. We haven't got **** except really good fights.
GF CCP m8m8m8o7o7o7o7 |
Cass Lie
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:16:00 -
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Beaches wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:.... You just said PL and years of unchallenged moon income.
Oh I can assure you it was not in the least unchallenged. The thing is, PL was rather good at answering those challenges (not always though: Y-W sends it's regards).
Beaches wrote:
I couldn't care less about the rewards, maybe if the event was in Amarr, I might undock and try to scoop something. I do care that CCP is hopelessly beholden to 0.0 power blocks. Not only because of inherent bias, through the fact that their CSM is all goons, but because the majority of their alts are deeply involved in these 0.0 alliances. This large reward to certain 0.0 entities amounting to a mini , extralegal T20 incident, dev corruption and interference with the sandbox.
Oh that is just nonsense. Also, this "large reward" is literally nothing for the larger alliances and, as already stated, is not the reason they are doing this. They just want to have fun. Shocking, eh? |
Botleten
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
221
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:16:00 -
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Beaches wrote:I couldn't care less about the rewards, maybe if the event was in Amarr, I might undock and try to scoop something. I do care that CCP is hopelessly beholden to 0.0 power blocks. Not only because of inherent bias, through the fact that their CSM is all goons, but because the majority of their alts are deeply involved in these 0.0 alliances. This large reward to certain 0.0 entities amounting to a mini , extralegal T20 incident, dev corruption and interference with the sandbox.
So what youre saying is that you were too lazy to go track down the CCP fleet so that obviously shows a CCP bias towards nullsec? You aren't very smart, are you? Its far easier to make isk in hisec than in nullsec and much safer too, and CCP is doing its best to rid any risk aspect from hisec by removing the insurance for gankers. You should stop and think before you post, because otherwise you end up looking really dumb. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
126
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:21:00 -
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Alina Wize wrote:You're all assuming we're getting all of this phat lewtz that CCP is dropping. We haven't got **** except really good fights.
GF CCP m8m8m8o7o7o7o7
Congratulations, you already got more than what we get in hisec. So... no affordable NEx store... no full-fledged Incarna... no new casual content... no new solo content... no new PvE content...-á
Why should I keep paying to play this game? |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
126
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:29:00 -
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Botleten wrote:(...) CCP is doing its best to rid any risk aspect from hisec by removing the insurance for gankers. (...).
,,,then adding 4 new gankmobiles and removing penalties from destroyers so they can gank better. So... no affordable NEx store... no full-fledged Incarna... no new casual content... no new solo content... no new PvE content...-á
Why should I keep paying to play this game? |
Roime
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
56
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:31:00 -
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Quote:Congratulations, you already got more than what we get in hisec.
Unless you have burned your bridges with some of the Empires, you are free to roam the stars, capsuleer.
Stop placing arbitrary restrictions on yourself and expect CCP to shape the game to fit your confusion.
You choose your own destiny. |
Zevina
Atomic Core Industries and Science
11
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:33:00 -
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Considering only the more hardcore players (yep even carebears like me can be "kinda" hardcore) are reading this forum its rather obvious how one sided this "christmas event" really is. Where is the problem in designing a small nice event everybody can take part in with little rewards for everybody who bothers joining? Instead have one massive thing rolling with presents worth 10 years of birthday, christmas and easter put together for a small group of perfectly organized 0.0 PvP geeks?
Its just the old story all over again, these people thinking they are better and deserve more because they play Eve just THIS WAY. And guess what? Events like these just alianate these guys from the normal Eve player and the majority of the playerbase. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
26
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:38:00 -
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Zevina wrote:Considering only the more hardcore players (yep even carebears like me can be "kinda" hardcore) are reading this forum its rather obvious how one sided this "christmas event" really is. Where is the problem in designing a small nice event everybody can take part in with little rewards for everybody who bothers joining? Instead have one massive thing rolling with presents worth 10 years of birthday, christmas and easter put together for a small group of perfectly organized 0.0 PvP geeks?
Its just the old story all over again, these people thinking they are better and deserve more because they play Eve just THIS WAY. And guess what? Events like these just alianate these guys from the normal Eve player and the majority of the playerbase. The problem is that he point of EVE isn't for CCP to reach out and say "here's todays content".
People who want to ignore the forums and do their own thing, let them. People who actually get involved, reap the rewards.
And yes, people who play in certain ways will have advantages in certain situations. If you're looking for perfectly fair all the time, consider HKO. |
Botleten
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
221
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:48:00 -
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Zevina wrote:Considering only the more hardcore players (yep even carebears like me can be "kinda" hardcore) are reading this forum its rather obvious how one sided this "christmas event" really is. Where is the problem in designing a small nice event everybody can take part in with little rewards for everybody who bothers joining? Instead have one massive thing rolling with presents worth 10 years of birthday, christmas and easter put together for a small group of perfectly organized 0.0 PvP geeks?
Its just the old story all over again, these people thinking they are better and deserve more because they play Eve just THIS WAY. And guess what? Events like these just alianate these guys from the normal Eve player and the majority of the playerbase.
So once again, what you're saying is most people were too lazy to organize and track down this fleet and that somehow is CCP's fault? Jesus youre a bunch of lazy whiners. Get up off your lazy asses, get a fleet together, and go 20-30 jumps. As for these supposedly amazing awards, the CCP fleet only dropped a few plexes, nothing amazing... you should learn what you're talking about before posting. |
Zevina
Atomic Core Industries and Science
11
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:49:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Zevina wrote:Considering only the more hardcore players (yep even carebears like me can be "kinda" hardcore) are reading this forum its rather obvious how one sided this "christmas event" really is. Where is the problem in designing a small nice event everybody can take part in with little rewards for everybody who bothers joining? Instead have one massive thing rolling with presents worth 10 years of birthday, christmas and easter put together for a small group of perfectly organized 0.0 PvP geeks?
Its just the old story all over again, these people thinking they are better and deserve more because they play Eve just THIS WAY. And guess what? Events like these just alianate these guys from the normal Eve player and the majority of the playerbase. The problem is that he point of EVE isn't for CCP to reach out and say "here's todays content". People who want to ignore the forums and do their own thing, let them. People who actually get involved, reap the rewards. And yes, people who play in certain ways will have advantages in certain situations. If you're looking for perfectly fair all the time, consider HKO.
Im not looking for fair and I know most people confuse the word with another one, namely: equal. For the last 1-2 years now CCP is actively patching to force people to enter low and 0.0 sec and making highsec and playing solo more unattractive. What for? Where is the harm in having players play the safe way? Im not a person who wants to be involved in PvP or exposed to PvP situations 24/7 and I also dont want to be reliant on other players 24/7. Eve always was a game for many playstyles and that makes the sandbox so great. Recently that changed, either you give in and go to 0.0 or you are laughed at and belittled at every opportunity. Just check this thread and the commentary from most, its not even objective, its just mean on a very basic level.
I want to be treated equal as a customer! My money and monthly fee is just as good as that from any 0.0 player. And mind you CCP, there are more players like me in Eve Online than PLs, Goons or whatever. Maybe not in the forum, but in the game in general. Drop you obsession with the 0.0 bunch and show some love to those people that pay the bigger part of your bills. ;) |
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Aemonchichi
Limited Access Guardian Society
1
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Posted - 2011.12.10 14:54:00 -
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dear ccp navigator,
i dont give a crap about your or ccps intentions with your feed-my-buddies-with-fat-loot-events, its about the facts
you decide where u go, and so u know who is likley to kill u and get all the shiny blueprints plexes and stuff
ccp having a history in this game of ccp employees feeding their ingame friends with items and stuff, you should have learn from this, be smart and abstain from events like this
there may be no proof u feed ur loot intentionally to certain people, BUT there is also no proof u didnt, so i hope u understand it leaves a bad taste
and saying everyone can participate is a lie and u know that ^^ eve is a complex game where u form communities and u work on shared goals together with them
that leaves not really time to go and shoot ccp
so only the people that ccp decides can have a go at that loot (ccp decides where they fly)
so stop handing out loot like blueprints that have a impact on different aspects of the game
u can still pump plexes up certain peoples exhaust pipes all u want, but blueprints ? no thanks
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
126
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Posted - 2011.12.10 15:02:00 -
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Zevina wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Zevina wrote:Considering only the more hardcore players (yep even carebears like me can be "kinda" hardcore) are reading this forum its rather obvious how one sided this "christmas event" really is. Where is the problem in designing a small nice event everybody can take part in with little rewards for everybody who bothers joining? Instead have one massive thing rolling with presents worth 10 years of birthday, christmas and easter put together for a small group of perfectly organized 0.0 PvP geeks?
Its just the old story all over again, these people thinking they are better and deserve more because they play Eve just THIS WAY. And guess what? Events like these just alianate these guys from the normal Eve player and the majority of the playerbase. The problem is that he point of EVE isn't for CCP to reach out and say "here's todays content". People who want to ignore the forums and do their own thing, let them. People who actually get involved, reap the rewards. And yes, people who play in certain ways will have advantages in certain situations. If you're looking for perfectly fair all the time, consider HKO. Im not looking for fair and I know most people confuse the word with another one, namely: equal. For the last 1-2 years now CCP is actively patching to force people to enter low and 0.0 sec and making highsec and playing solo more unattractive. What for? Where is the harm in having players play the safe way? Im not a person who wants to be involved in PvP or exposed to PvP situations 24/7 and I also dont want to be reliant on other players 24/7. Eve always was a game for many playstyles and that makes the sandbox so great. Recently that changed, either you give in and go to 0.0 or you are laughed at and belittled at every opportunity. Just check this thread and the commentary from most, its not even objective, its just mean on a very basic level. I want to be treated equal as a customer! My money and monthly fee is just as good as that from any 0.0 player. And mind you CCP, there are more players like me in Eve Online than PLs, Goons or whatever. Maybe not in the forum, but in the game in general. Drop you obsession with the 0.0 bunch and show some love to those people that pay the bigger part of your bills. ;)
Let me guess, you too feel that Crucible did nothing for you, just some nice shiny and pvp/null content, but no gameplay for hisec soloers? Because if you think so, then you're welcome to my club. So... no affordable NEx store... no full-fledged Incarna... no new casual content... no new solo content... no new PvE content...-á
Why should I keep paying to play this game? |
Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
42
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Posted - 2011.12.10 15:07:00 -
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Zevina wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Zevina wrote:Considering only the more hardcore players (yep even carebears like me can be "kinda" hardcore) are reading this forum its rather obvious how one sided this "christmas event" really is. Where is the problem in designing a small nice event everybody can take part in with little rewards for everybody who bothers joining? Instead have one massive thing rolling with presents worth 10 years of birthday, christmas and easter put together for a small group of perfectly organized 0.0 PvP geeks?
Its just the old story all over again, these people thinking they are better and deserve more because they play Eve just THIS WAY. And guess what? Events like these just alianate these guys from the normal Eve player and the majority of the playerbase. The problem is that he point of EVE isn't for CCP to reach out and say "here's todays content". People who want to ignore the forums and do their own thing, let them. People who actually get involved, reap the rewards. And yes, people who play in certain ways will have advantages in certain situations. If you're looking for perfectly fair all the time, consider HKO. Im not looking for fair and I know most people confuse the word with another one, namely: equal. For the last 1-2 years now CCP is actively patching to force people to enter low and 0.0 sec and making highsec and playing solo more unattractive. What for? Where is the harm in having players play the safe way? Im not a person who wants to be involved in PvP or exposed to PvP situations 24/7 and I also dont want to be reliant on other players 24/7. Eve always was a game for many playstyles and that makes the sandbox so great. Recently that changed, either you give in and go to 0.0 or you are laughed at and belittled at every opportunity. Just check this thread and the commentary from most, its not even objective, its just mean on a very basic level. I want to be treated equal as a customer! My money and monthly fee is just as good as that from any 0.0 player. And mind you CCP, there are more players like me in Eve Online than PLs, Goons or whatever. Maybe not in the forum, but in the game in general. Drop you obsession with the 0.0 bunch and show some love to those people that pay the bigger part of your bills. ;)
It stands to sense that people who get out and about in the game world and who participate more reap more rewards, carebears huddling in high sec simply deserve less because they are not playing the game to its fullest.
They cut themselves off from a large proportion of the map and from game mechanics, in this case they cut themselves off from the event. Only they are whining about it because the choices they made excluded them and the are butt hurt. |
Zevina
Atomic Core Industries and Science
11
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Posted - 2011.12.10 15:11:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Let me guess, you too feel that Crucible did nothing for you, just some nice shiny and pvp/null content, but no gameplay for hisec soloers? Because if you think so, then you're welcome to my club.
After the Incarna debacle I liked Crucible quite much, though its true what you said. I dont need super cool new highsec content every patch, sometimes little things and some shiny is nice too. But what I really hate is the attitude towards highsec players and the general trend to push everyone into 0.0 and low by cutting more and more possibilities and niches of solo and highsec players. And give away free T2 BPOs to perfectly organized 0.0 alliances definetly is a kick in the groin for any average Eve player. |
Cass Lie
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.12.10 15:22:00 -
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Aemonchichi wrote:dear ccp navigator, ...
As you say, it's about the facts. However, they actually prove you wrong. Check where the alliances who eventually shot CCP down live. Hint: it's not Great Wildlands, in Test's case it's even across half the frigging map. Also, the event before this was held in Tama. Who doesn't have an alt in Jita, seriously?
CCP please don't mind the whiners and continue to have fun. |
Beaches
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.12.10 15:25:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote:\ carebears huddling in high sec simply deserve less because they are not playing the game to its fullest.
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Who decides how to play a game to it's fullest? In a sandbox there is no 'right' or 'wrong' ; 'full' or 'empty' way, you can create for yourself what YOU want and it's full for you. On the beach when I was young sometimes me and my sistersand brothers would dig giant holes which went down to the water and cover them with a blanket and some sand so people would fall in, sometimes we built little castles ect. Complete opposite, both fun and good at the time.
CCP rewarding their 0.0 alliance mates and CSM buddies because they think living in a perpetual circle jerk is the 'right' way to play the game is inherently wrong.
It's not as if 0.0 is even interesting to most players anyway (or they would live there). Are the supers what make it so interesting and praise/reward worthy? The blobs? The napfests? It's a matter of opinion and that's my point. Some people like that **** (obviously some CCP devs) It's nothing which CCP as a company should show favoritism over. It only shows corruption and bias. |
BBJ Shepard
164
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Posted - 2011.12.10 15:47:00 -
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Mistress Lilu wrote:Why do all the ccp fleets have to be killed by the large corporations. Like they need the isk and the dropped items. CCP show up in systems that do not have these large corporations, such as looserswarm,northerblahcoalition, pathetic legion and so forth.. What a waste.
HOH ? ?/ |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
65
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Posted - 2011.12.10 15:48:00 -
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I hope that everybody involved had a really good time, players and devs.
When it comes to me, as a carebear with (some) teeth, I have been in low sec for a while and saw some space around 0.0 on my other character where we (corp and a short lived alliance) helped to mop up the remains of something called 'IT'. Sadly 'it' wasn't there, though I /we ran into some remarkable forces like for example PL and the Purple Helmeted warriors.
That was great fun, doesn't matter if I/we lost or not. After all this is a game, you should have fun or move on to something that pleases you more.
When it comes to the moaners and crybabies in this thread, please stop posting. You are embarrassing yourself. No one and nothing is stopping you from going out of high sec and experience what this game is build for, blowing up virtual spaceships flown by real people. It's not that if you lose, you suddenly have lost an arm in real life. All you lose is some isk and assets that do not and never have belonged to you anyway (check the EULA). So get over that dump fear. Get a cheap ship, a clone with nothing that cannot be replaced easily and get out there.
It's as easy as that^.
High sec is meant to be "safe". Don't expect to be rewarded for playing safe.
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Nephilius
Repo.
64
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Posted - 2011.12.10 15:56:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:So you missed first event in Tama and raging right? Or you was scared to show up in low-sec? I've been there on my sniper Cane, shoot some people and survived not even in fleet. Stop being a crybaby FFS.
The first strike was that it was in Tama. I mean, c'mon, really? Tama? I spent two nights roaming around in lowsec just hoping for a CCP fight, only to find out that after they said they wouldn't run in a large blob fleet, they ran in a large blob fleet. And they decided to stand in Tama. Bad enough to miss fighting with CCP (which would have been epic, win or lose), but then who should get to do it, but PL and GS. *sigh* I'm sure that all the goodies were a small blip on their bloated wallets already.
Take it how you will, but gosh, I'm sure the little fish would like to play with the big fish now and then, if for no other reason than the experience and to have a story to tell. Events like this are lost on the big fish. If you bring down a giant, you're a hero. If you kill something weak-even if it has to die-then you will endure contempt. |
Embrace My Hate
Black Horizon. Test Friends Please Ignore
61
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Posted - 2011.12.10 16:01:00 -
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This event was staged 1 or 2 jumps into 0.0, in NPC space, in cyno jammed systems. That is hardly catering to 0.0 powerblocs if I may say so myself.
Any loot argument is completely moot and invalid. There was none, even in the first CCP event there was only some plexs, you could have run incursions and made more ISK ESPECIALLY is you count how any people were participating.
Quit pretending like CCP has never or will never run community funtime in empire space because they have and they will.
CCP thanks for bringing the good fight.
CCP DeNormalized you were the only CCP staff on my lossmail, it's on like Donkey Kong dude
https://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=310497
Eve is real, I was there. Here's to more goodfites dudes <3
Edit - Sorry CCP Spitfire your also on there, 1v1 at the sun! |
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JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
135
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Posted - 2011.12.10 16:10:00 -
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This thread is awesome! |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
232
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Posted - 2011.12.10 16:13:00 -
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Bane Loppknow wrote:The NC still exists? I thought the only coalitions left were Goons etc and the Drone Russians, with a smattering of independent alliances.
i think he was refering to ncdot. / Raiden + pets which are the new nc Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |
Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
42
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Posted - 2011.12.10 17:34:00 -
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Beaches wrote:Jhagiti Tyran wrote:\ carebears huddling in high sec simply deserve less because they are not playing the game to its fullest.
. Who decides how to play a game to it's fullest? In a sandbox there is no 'right' or 'wrong' ; 'full' or 'empty' way, you can create for yourself what YOU want and it's full for you. On the beach when I was young sometimes me and my sistersand brothers would dig giant holes which went down to the water and cover them with a blanket and some sand so people would fall in, sometimes we built little castles ect. Complete opposite, both fun and good at the time. CCP rewarding their 0.0 alliance mates and CSM buddies because they think living in a perpetual circle jerk is the 'right' way to play the game is inherently wrong. It's not as if 0.0 is even interesting to most players anyway (or they would live there). Are the supers what make it so interesting and praise/reward worthy? The blobs? The napfests? It's a matter of opinion and that's my point. Some people like that **** (obviously some CCP devs) It's nothing which CCP as a company should show favoritism over. It only shows corruption and bias.
The only person decides whether to play the game to the fullest is the player themselves. You seem to take the impression that I am making a judgement about who deserves what, well I am not I am just pointing out that in a sand box a player can choose how he wants to play.
The high sec bears have decided to ignore 3/4s of the tools, options and space available to them. The reasons for doing this are complicated but basically they have noone to blame but themselves. So for easy reading comprehension I am not trying to dictate which players deserve what because I dont need to, they have done it by themselves.
If you ignore the tools availiable to you and if you decide half of the sandbox is off limits its your own fault.
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Beaches
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2011.12.10 17:41:00 -
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Jhagiti Tyran wrote: carebears huddling in high sec simply deserve less because they are not playing the game to its fullest.
Jhagiti Tyran wrote: You seem to take the impression that I am making a judgement about who deserves what, well I am not I am just pointing out that in a sand box a player can choose how he wants to play.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
513
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Posted - 2011.12.10 18:01:00 -
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Beaches wrote:Jhagiti Tyran wrote: carebears huddling in high sec simply deserve less because they are not playing the game to its fullest.
Jhagiti Tyran wrote: You seem to take the impression that I am making a judgement about who deserves what, well I am not I am just pointing out that in a sand box a player can choose how he wants to play.
How dare he point out the obvious!
And selective quoting is usually bad mmkay. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Beaches
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2011.12.10 18:03:00 -
[86] - Quote
Last time I checked the map high sec was more dangerous than 0.0
(as if hiding in no mans land ratting behind vast intel networks would be dangerous.. what did I expect vOv) |
Beaches
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2011.12.10 18:07:00 -
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Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
20
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Posted - 2011.12.10 18:46:00 -
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mkint wrote:Sarmatiko wrote:mkint wrote:ah, you mean the one that was hotdropped by a super fleet. This is EVE... where if you're not in a 1000-man alliance, CCP expects you to GTFO. So they probably must PVP in high-sec? "Hey dude pick up our jettison container for PVP"? Or they just should send you a PLEX and NEX item for being hopeless disabled carebear? Or cynojam the system. Problem solved.
bwahaha.
you have no idea what you are talking about |
Embrace My Hate
Black Horizon. Test Friends Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2011.12.10 18:46:00 -
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Beaches wrote:Last time I checked the map high sec was more dangerous than 0.0
(as if hiding in no mans land ratting behind vast intel networks would be dangerous.. what did I expect vOv)
Where in the rules does it say highsec is supposed to be the safest area in the game?
Either way welcome to emergent gameplay hope you enjoy it. |
Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
20
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Posted - 2011.12.10 18:48:00 -
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Beaches wrote:CCP Navigator wrote:Jack Traynor wrote:Just another in-game thing meant for the big boys. Nothing to see here, move along. This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it. Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone. I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be. Yeah, when Padro drives his van to the playground, the candy isn't for the little children its for everyone, he's there for everyone. It doesn't matter that he went to a child's playground. Here's the deal, the van is moving over the next few days and EVERYONE is welcome. I'm really sorry you can't take the time out of your schedule to come to the playground, that's your fault. duuuurrr This logic is so sound and the average person is brilliant.
it was 5 jumps into nullsec, in npc space
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