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Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2015.09.12 05:17:54 -
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In light of the successful contest last year-áI am pleased to announce a new writing contest for stories or poems by Capsuleers . This year's contest will be co-judged by me (Non-Fiction) and Silver Night (Prose) and Holy Mother Alizebeth Amalath (Poetry).-á
There is no minimum length. Maximum length is 30,000 words. There is no required subject matter; the content may be fiction or non-fiction. All entries will be considered. Submissions are to be made by posting on Eve Forums - Eve Fiction. Your post should specifically reference at the outset that it is being submitted for consideration in the YC 117 New Eden Capsuleer's Writing Contest. If you have a good reason why you want to make a private submission, then contact me privately as to why.
Deadline for submissions is October 30th of this year.
Winners will be announced at the a special gala on November 28th at 20:00 at a location to be determined.
The contest into has three categories Poetry, Prose, Non-Fiction (News/Treatises/Etc.) with five awards for each. 1st; 350 million 2nd; 250 million 3rd: 200 million 4th: 75 million Honorable Mentions: At Judge's Discretion - 20 million isk
Winners will be invited to give a reading at the Holy Grape in Emperor Family Station in Amarr (depending on length, the reading may be limited to selected excerpts.
The most "amusing" or "entertaining" to Lunarisse gets treated to dinner by her at a fine restaurant.
With respect to Silver Night, his favorite gets to have tea with him.
With respect to Holy Mother Alizebeth Amalath, she will provide a home cooked dinner with her famous cheese cake for desert to her favorite.
As the judges, Silver Night, Holy Mother Alizebeth Amalath and I are disqualified.
All entries will be considered.
if the quality of the entries does not merit the number of prizes, then prizes will be given up to the number deemed meritorious
((All submissions are expressly subject to the TOS and we certainly do not claim ownership. The submission of course, however, must be yours.
ISD Note - This is specifically an In Character/Roleplay writing contest to be done by characters, not the players. The expectation is the submissions, whether 'fiction' or 'non fiction' would be in character to the capsuleer submitting it and people will have rp as part of the process. )) |
Goldfinch
Order of Jamyl
359
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Posted - 2015.09.12 06:21:37 -
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To signal our intent to participate, we share with you a poem. It is not our submission.. since it is placed here instead of in the required forum.
Written for a friend we lost on Sosa IX. Our use of pronouns at the time was different than now.
I was cold when you were cold at the Wake where we sang as you were Underwater, that I loved you could not say through the fog, want to Run to you on my legs but I have so much to Live through for you..
\J/
veiled and bound
my origin story (on R109)
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Alizebeth Amalath
Order of Jamyl
244
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Posted - 2015.09.12 08:15:27 -
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I look forward to reading all the submissions. I swear before God and Empress that I will be impartial. |
Skyweir Kinnison
73
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Posted - 2015.09.12 08:32:46 -
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Alizebeth Amalath wrote:I look forward to reading all the submissions. I swear before God and Empress that I will be impartial.
I don't see how you can be, whilst maintaining your faith. The judges panel is effectively Amarrian. By definition, should a submitted work be 'heretical' or blasphemous, you would have no choice but to reject it or betray your own deeply felt beliefs. If I were a Minmatar revolutionary poet, for example - or even a Gallentean writer of gay bondage novellas - I would have no confidence in the impartiality of religious dignitaries judging my work.
The judges should be chosen to represent all cultures in a balanced manner. I applaud the proposal for developing and exhibiting new literature, but the selection and judging process is deeply flawed.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Lord Kailethre
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
270
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Posted - 2015.09.12 12:31:54 -
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Skyweir Kinnison wrote:Alizebeth Amalath wrote:I look forward to reading all the submissions. I swear before God and Empress that I will be impartial. I don't see how you can be, whilst maintaining your faith. The judges panel is effectively Amarrian. By definition, should a submitted work be 'heretical' or blasphemous, you would have no choice but to reject it or betray your own deeply felt beliefs. If I were a Minmatar revolutionary poet, for example - or even a Gallentean writer of gay bondage novellas - I would have no confidence in the impartiality of religious dignitaries judging my work. The judges should be chosen to represent all cultures in a balanced manner. I applaud the proposal for developing and exhibiting new literature, but the selection and judging process is deeply flawed.
Perhaps instead of whinging about it, you could make your own secular writing contest? |
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
458
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Posted - 2015.09.12 12:46:36 -
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Skyweir Kinnison wrote:Alizebeth Amalath wrote:I look forward to reading all the submissions. I swear before God and Empress that I will be impartial. I don't see how you can be, whilst maintaining your faith. The judges panel is effectively Amarrian. By definition, should a submitted work be 'heretical' or blasphemous, you would have no choice but to reject it or betray your own deeply felt beliefs. If I were a Minmatar revolutionary poet, for example - or even a Gallentean writer of gay bondage novellas - I would have no confidence in the impartiality of religious dignitaries judging my work. The judges should be chosen to represent all cultures in a balanced manner. I applaud the proposal for developing and exhibiting new literature, but the selection and judging process is deeply flawed.
Last year I was the only judge. This year I decided to invite a honorable Caldari in judging the prose section (one of the two categories that received the bulk of the applications) and am pleased he accepted. Because my current responsibilities as CEO of SFRIM have been rather time consuming, I asked the Holy Mother to judge the other category that received most of the contest applications, Poetry.
I think in its short history the contest has shown to be fair. Year the winner of the Prose Section was loyalist Minmatar and we had prize winners from across the Empire and other spaces in all 3 categories. |
Skyweir Kinnison
74
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Posted - 2015.09.12 12:58:35 -
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Lord Kailethre wrote:
Perhaps instead of whinging about it, you could make your own secular writing contest?
Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:it's my ISK And Silver Knight's.
Year the winner of the Prose Section was Minmatar and we had prize winners from across the Empire in all 3 categories.
It's not a whinge, nor do I dispute that the prize givers may do what they wish with their money.
I simply note that the competition is inherently biased by the judges' religious beliefs and that any claim of impartiality cannot be sustained.
I think the rules of a competition should be clear. However, as you imply, I'm sure it's none of my business and I wish you well.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1405
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Posted - 2015.09.12 14:09:45 -
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No matter who you put in charge, they will be biased by their own doctrines, ideals, or simple upbringing...
What would you propose instead sir... ? |
Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
707
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Posted - 2015.09.12 14:36:32 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:No matter who you put in charge, they will be biased by their own doctrines, ideals, or simple upbringing...
What would you propose instead sir... ?
A panel of judges from every culture, each masters of literature?
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
460
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:18:36 -
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I am not a master of literature, but I do enjoy reading it and I'd like to encourage of more it. I am happy to put my isk where my desires are. |
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Skyweir Kinnison
75
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:25:20 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:No matter who you put in charge, they will be biased by their own doctrines, ideals, or simple upbringing...
What would you propose instead sir... ?
I made a proposal in my first post. Alternatively, as has been made clear, the competition can be characterised as being religiously moderated.
For example, there would be no point in me encouraging my Minmatar employees to submit (via myself or another capsuleer) some of their new ballads celebrating the demise of the Empress Jamyl, which are - despite the subject material - delightfully melodic and exemplars of the Vherokior lyric saga - because the Holy Mother of the Order of Jamyl could not, in all conscience, do other than bin them immediately.
Perfectly fair stance, as long as it's made clear, that's all.
Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
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Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
480
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Posted - 2015.09.12 15:55:43 -
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Pity the contest is for yet another year heavily Amarr biased. I'd have considered it, but given the judges panel I think it'd be fruitless. |
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
460
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Posted - 2015.09.12 16:56:01 -
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A pity that Ms. Del'Thul and Mr. Kinnison think it is impossible for multiple cultures to co-exist in a contest. I encourage each of you to enter if your talents lay in the literary arts. If they lay more in prose, I note the judge is only Silver Night.
I will note that winners last year included the follow who could hardly be confused with Empire loyalists:
Karynn Denton, the leader of a Thukker Caravan (2nd place in Poetry), Literia (1st place in prose), Jade Blackwind (3rd place in prose).
The contest winners will be announced at a function held in a neutral venue, the Golden Masque.
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Avio Yaken
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
2134
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Posted - 2015.09.12 17:06:54 -
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I don't think its becasue they think its impossible for cultures to co-exist....Just they fear that any writings that goes against the amarr faith will not be judged fairly due to the beliefs of the judges
Thus not being a truly fair competition....I however have hope this will not be the case
(.___________________________________________.)/
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Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
480
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Posted - 2015.09.12 17:15:41 -
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It's less a matter of cultural co-existence and simply a matter of an unfortunate blatant bias in the judges panel. |
Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
418
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Posted - 2015.09.12 22:17:50 -
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How can you all shout bias before they have even judged anything? |
Lord Kailethre
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
271
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Posted - 2015.09.12 22:24:08 -
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Ayallah wrote:How can you all shout bias before they have even judged anything?
Because, humorously, they are massively biased themselves. |
Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
481
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Posted - 2015.09.12 23:07:21 -
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Simple matter of loyalties. If I set up any form of contest with my own loyalists on the judges board, I'd certainly expect to be considered biased. It's rather unreasonable to expect otherwise, given the state of New Eden today. If I had even the slightest intention of making something unbiased, I'd try and get a more balanced panel of judges and if at all possible excuse myself from it.
Oh, and yes. I most certainly am biased. It'd be rather dishonest to pretend otherwise when you have clear and open loyalties, don't you think? |
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
462
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Posted - 2015.09.13 00:18:58 -
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Contest updated.
I am no longer a judge.
I thank Ayallah for stepping in to take the 3rd judge slot. All 3 judges (a caldari, an amarr, and a minmitar) will judge all 3 categories. |
Neph
Operation Meatshield Plexodus
103
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Posted - 2015.09.13 00:26:15 -
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Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:Contest updated.
I am no longer a judge.
I thank Ayallah for stepping in to take the 3rd judge slot. All 3 judges (a caldari, an amarr, and a minmitar) will judge all 3 categories.
My interest suddenly was piqued. Thank you for taking this considerate act.
"It is one of the greatest tragedies of our time that the Caldari and the Matari have found themselves as enemies..."
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
2009
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Posted - 2015.09.13 11:13:51 -
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Lunarisse Aspenstar wrote:Contest updated.
I am no longer a judge.
I thank Ayallah for stepping in to take the 3rd judge slot. All 3 judges (a caldari, an amarr, and a minmitar) will judge all 3 categories. Ma'am, I strongly recommend removing person known as "Ayallah" from the commission. Reason: incompetence. I would really prefer to see you in the place of judge and not turning it into a farce by allowing this individual in.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Mizhara Del'thul
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
481
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Posted - 2015.09.13 15:50:20 -
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No Matari on the judges panel yet. I applaud the effort, but she's about as Amarr as the other one. |
Lucas Raholan
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
206
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Posted - 2015.09.13 16:40:29 -
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Mizhara Del'thul wrote:No Matari on the judges panel yet. I applaud the effort, but she's about as Amarr as the other one.
She is however one of the few Matari that has a level in intellect high enough to actually be able to judge such a writing contest, unless cave paintings are now a category that needs judging? if so I'm sure Luna would love to have you on the panel.
Shitposts so bad CONCORD gave me a 50 billion ISK bounty
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1429
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Posted - 2015.09.13 17:20:50 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:Mizhara Del'thul wrote:No Matari on the judges panel yet. I applaud the effort, but she's about as Amarr as the other one. She is however one of the few Matari that has a level in intellect high enough to actually be able to judge such a writing contest, unless cave paintings are now a category that needs judging? if so I'm sure Luna would love to have you on the panel.
That was decidedly uncalled-for, sir. Mizhara's point about Ayallah's background and religious faith skewing her perspective isn't baseless when the objections raised originally were about cultural impartiality. While Ayallah has thrown herself rather forcefully into her Brutor heritage, to some that might only show a tendency to overcompensate, which would also inhibit impartiality.
Whether or not such concerns are warranted, they remain legitimate concerns, and to respond to them with snide insults says far more about your deficiencies than ours. |
Gottin
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
11
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Posted - 2015.09.13 17:40:40 -
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Lord Kailethre wrote:Skyweir Kinnison wrote:Alizebeth Amalath wrote:I look forward to reading all the submissions. I swear before God and Empress that I will be impartial. I don't see how you can be, whilst maintaining your faith. The judges panel is effectively Amarrian. By definition, should a submitted work be 'heretical' or blasphemous, you would have no choice but to reject it or betray your own deeply felt beliefs. If I were a Minmatar revolutionary poet, for example - or even a Gallentean writer of gay bondage novellas - I would have no confidence in the impartiality of religious dignitaries judging my work. The judges should be chosen to represent all cultures in a balanced manner. I applaud the proposal for developing and exhibiting new literature, but the selection and judging process is deeply flawed. Perhaps instead of whinging about it, you could make your own secular writing contest?
Yes, do that instead of complaining about what someone else is doing. But that's just it, isn't it? You didn't think of having a writing contest yourself, and it takes much less effort and it's so much more emotionally gratifying to criticize someone else's event and project your own ethno-political predudice onto the judges.
Your're really something, you know that? You believe that race determines a person's viewpoint and you're accusing everyone else of it when the Amarr of all people are making the commitment to be impartial. Fortunately for you, your brand of racism is too subtle for the Matari to pick up on. |
Lasairiona Raske
Repracor Industries
198
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Posted - 2015.09.13 21:41:33 -
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Do we simply title it: Writing Contest YC117? |
Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
420
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Posted - 2015.09.13 22:47:36 -
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Arrendis wrote:That was decidedly uncalled-for, sir. Mizhara's point about Ayallah's background and religious faith skewing her perspective isn't baseless when the objections raised originally were about cultural impartiality. While Ayallah has thrown herself rather forcefully into her Brutor heritage, to some that might only show a tendency to overcompensate, which would also inhibit impartiality.
Whether or not such concerns are warranted is certainly open to question. Regardless, they remain legitimate concerns, and to respond to them with snide insults says far more about your deficiencies than ours.
My birth was not even remotely that forceful and I am not sure how I can overcompensate for my ethnicity. I would like you to elaborate on my background and religious faith but I know your knowledge is only anecdotal and your bias will not be budged so I will not bother.
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:No Matari on the judges panel yet. I applaud the effort, but she's about as Amarr as the other one.
I am not Matari enough for the terrorist, what a shame. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1431
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Posted - 2015.09.14 00:45:11 -
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Ayallah wrote:My birth was not even remotely that forceful and I am not sure how I can overcompensate for my ethnicity. I would like you to elaborate on my background and religious faith but I know your knowledge is only anecdotal and your bias will not be budged so I will not bother.
Ah, lovely. Gotten so defensive that someone pointing out that you - by your own statements - were neither born, no raised among the Tribes, is an attack? That again, by your own statements, your heritage as Brutor is something you came to later in life? Personally, Ayallah, I have no concerns about your impartiality. But I can understand why others might. It's not an attack to acknowledge that others' concerns are legitimate, even if I don't share them. But please, do continue to over-generalize and make unfounded accusations. |
Ayallah
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
421
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Posted - 2015.09.14 01:31:25 -
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I am hardly being defensive Arrendis. You are implying I have forcefully thrown myself into my Brutor heritage when all I have done is be born Brutor. Ergo, it is already my heritage. I have talked with many of my people who grew up in the Tribes and I have heard many stories and seen many monuments and own a large collection of old relics and books I purchased from Amarrian collectors which I then donated to museums. They seem to accept me as Brutor by the color of my skin when I go to visit Matar, never have I been stopped and questioned. But somehow for you, someone not even of the Brutor Tribe, I have not passed some undefined test. If pointing out the fallacy that I have to now 'do something' to be a part of my own heritage is being defensive, so be it.
Somehow as well, though you have completely unfoundedly attacked my impartiality on the basis I was not born within the Tribes I am the one over-generalizing and making unfounded accusations? The leap of logic to attacking me really is getting silly.
Either way this is not the point of this thread and I will no longer respond to these personal attacks in it. If you do not think the judges are fair then you will not submit a piece and not receive a portion of the money we are putting forward.
If you wish to continue this debate with me over "how Brutor I am" or whatever you people are mad about, find me somewhere else. |
Deitra Vess
Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel
638
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Posted - 2015.09.14 01:51:22 -
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The original judges and Ayallah put the money down for prizes correct? If the judges are the ones who are paying out of pocket for this whys it anyone's concern how its judged? Write to your audience if your worried about being judged unfairly for what you write and if its that YOU are fearing being judged moreso than your work, don't enter. It's pretty simple ain't it? |
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